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Dr. Nicole Saphier: Biden Cancer Care Bombshell & Dr. Jordan Vaughn on SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein’s Brain Inflammation “Relevant To Parkinson’s” – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 489
Mon, 02 Jun 2025
Dr. Jordan Vaughn estimates 15M Americans face long COVID or vaccine injuries, with the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein causing symptoms like brain fog, strokes, and – according to a new paper in the “Brain, Behavior, and Immunity” medical journal – even neuroinflammation in “brain regions relevant to Parkinson’s disease.” Dr. Nicole Saphier, a board-certified radiologist with fellowship training in breast and oncologic imaging, is a NYT best-selling author and host of Wellness Unmasked on iHeartRadio. She authored Panic Attack: Playing Politics with Science in the Fight Against COVID-19 and the children’s book That’s What Family’s For. More at https://x.com/nbsaphierMD and https://nicolesaphiermd.com Dr. Jordan F. Vaughn, a physician and clinical researcher, is a Diplomate of the American Board of Internal Medicine and Founder of The Microvascular Research Foundation. He focuses on microvascular health and vaccine-related injuries. More at https://x.com/jfvaughnmd09 and https://mvresearch.org 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at https://drdrew.com/skinrepair • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Dr. Jordan Vaughn and what is his expertise?
We are going to be visited by Dr. Jordan Vaughn in just a few minutes. He can be followed on X on JF Vaughn, V-A-U-G-H-N-M-D-O-9, hashtag Team Klotz. He is the president and founder of the Microvascular Research Foundation. He's an internist like myself.
Chapter 2: What is Dr. Nicole Saphier's background and contributions?
But first, my friend and colleague, Nicole Sapphire, who's a board-certified radiologist with advanced fellowship training in breast and oncological imaging. She was a great help to our friend, Kat Temp. There's the book, Panic Attack, Playing Politics with Science and the Fight Against COVID-19. Also, she's author of a children's book, That's What Families Are For.
And amongst other things, we're going to dismantle some of the mystery and confusion around former President Biden's prostate diagnosis. She works in oncology, in and around oncology, and I'm with the Prostate Cancer Foundation. So we will share what might have gone there with one another and you right after this. Our laws, as it pertains to substances, are draconian and bizarre.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of President Biden's prostate diagnosis?
It made me wonder about that, that they put the nodule forward, or is that just more smoke and mirrors?
Well, from what I understand, they essentially said he had some symptoms. They didn't disclose exactly what they were, but I'm sure we can imagine some sort of urinary symptoms. Or maybe he had bone pain. We don't really know. They didn't tell us. But it elicited examination of his prostate because he said after he presented with symptoms, he looked at his prostate. What was that?
Did they do a PSA? Did they see it was elevated? Did they do a rectal exam? Because they mentioned a nodule. Did they feel it? Did they do a prostate MRI? How did they diagnose the metastatic disease, by the way? I mean, you don't just go from a raised PSA to a prostatic biopsy to now diagnosing metastatic disease unless there's evidence of advanced disease.
One thing that I found very interesting, Drew, is He had MRIs throughout his tenure of presidency of his spine. At least they say that when they were evaluating his degenerative change of the spine, there was no nerve compression, which leads me to think they were looking at the soft tissues with an MRI, not just an X-ray.
So therefore, if there had been metastatic disease earlier on, at least in the spine, which is a very common location for metastatic disease, we would have seen something as the last one we heard about was 2024. But he did get diagnosed with COVID in the summer of 2024. And you remember right after that, about a week later is when he dropped out of the presidential campaign.
Now we know that every time that a president got COVID, they got a CT chest, whether it was indicated or not. So did he get a CT chest during the summer? And maybe they saw something on that examination and that prompted maybe a metastatic disease workup at that time. That's the only thing that has me as a maybe.
Think how bizarre it would be to get a CT chest for a post-COVID workup, but not a PSA for routine health screening. I mean, you know, one is super aggressive and the other is ridiculously, like, irresponsible, frankly. He was getting a PSA.
Like, can we just call it what it is? There's no way he was not. He was being treated for BPH in 2019. He was getting a PSA. But the thing is, they said he was being treated for BPH. Maybe he was taking like finasteride or some of the other medications to treat the BPH.
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