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DEI Discrimination Is Immoral & Finally Illegal – So Its Promoters Are Hiding Under New Names w/ Adam Coleman & Tommy Carrigan – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 473
Tue, 08 Apr 2025
President Trump issued a day-1 executive order banning DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) discrimination policies – but Adam Coleman warns that its promoters won’t give up easily and are simply hiding under new euphemisms. “They have misread the lessons of the past by concluding only that discrimination against black people and/or “underrepresented groups” is wrong,” writes Adam Coleman, founder of Wrong Speak Publishing. “This is not accurate, nor moral. All discrimination is immoral, regardless of whether it’s directed at your demographic or not.” Adam Coleman is a writer featured in the New York Post, UnHerd, Newsweek, Daily Mail, and Human Events. He founded Wrong Speak Publishing and authored Black Victim To Black Victor. His latest book, The Children We Left Behind (2025), explores family separation’s impact on children, drawing from his own experiences. He began speaking out during the 2020 riots. Find more at https://adambcoleman.com and https://x.com/wrong_speak Tommy Carrigan is a Rumble creator and host of Tommy’s Podcast. He graduated magna cum laude from the University of Georgia with a Biology degree in 2013, declining pharmacy and medical school offers to pursue independence. Starting his podcast in 2019, he was banned from YouTube after interviewing Dr. Robert Malone. More at https://tommyspodcast.com and https://x.com/_tommyspodcast 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at https://drdrew.com/skinrepair • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Adam Coleman and what are his views on DEI and family separation?
You can find Adam, as I said, on Twitter, on X rather, wrongspeak underscore, wrong underscore speak. Adam, welcome. Good to see you. Tell me about that. I'm interested in that because I... I said that not thinking about... I thought it was a matter of fact on Laura Ingraham's show on Friday. She asked what all the violence was about.
And the sort of normalization of violence and aggression and making it a media event to kids with their cameras and stuff. And I said, well, I mean... Either absent fathers or physically abusive fathers are well known to create these things. And it feels like you're making a similar case.
If dad kind of represents society to a child, and if dad is not available, abandoning, or abusive, child's not going to like trusting the world at large very well.
Yeah, that's exactly right. The most important parent to a child is the same sex parent. And if we're looking at violence, predominantly it comes from the men. So the boys grow up and they either don't have a model within their home or they're, like you said, they have a model of a abusive father figure that they repeat. And so this is basically the outcome.
And a lot of times that violent outburst is a result of being frustrated. Maybe they're not being seen. Maybe they're looking for attention. Maybe something is physically or sexually happening to them.
so these are various reasons as to why they start going into a in a violent path on top of that you have external influences so gang culture for example it's a way for young men to feel some sort of camaraderie to have some sort of direction there's usually an older male model within that group of young men who instructs the younger boys
So there's usually something that ties to it, starting from their home, their home life. And I always say a happy child isn't conducting themselves in a violent manner. So something is going on.
Yeah. Yeah. And this is just true of all human beings. We've known that throughout history. This is just how and what do you think psychologists do? We talk about, you know, do we talk to them about their sporting events or we talk to them about their family of origin issues and traumas from the family of origin, the shortcomings. That's what psychological services are.
And unfortunately, they've sort of. These days, it's about treating the traumatizing experience and abandonment, neglect, separated family, broken families. Those are on the scale of adverse childhood experiences, the ACE score. And you get three of those or more and you're in big trouble in terms of your mental health and your behavior.
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Chapter 2: How does family separation impact children and contribute to societal violence?
You're right. We have... We have come to accept some of this stuff a little more readily and kind of because it's, I think some people that are sort of in the accepting mode feel like it's so needed. There's something needed to happen. And so it's like, yeah, it's rolling the dice and it's scary. But so let's talk about some of it. Tariffs, you good on that?
I know biology. I know nothing about this. And I just don't want... It's the liberal talking about he had a belt-fed pistol. It's like, that doesn't exist. I can't speak at a turn on tariffs because I don't know. I mean, I could say some regurgitated points, but it would be intellectually dishonest.
All right, fair enough. And then Adam and I were talking about DEI. I was wondering if you had any thoughts about that conversation and those policies.
DEI is fascinating because it's predicated upon the same bullshit that both sides agree is bullshit.
a drug that comes off patent you know modafinil armodafinil insulin it's it's off patent now you know a statin or whatever a beta blocker it comes off patent you go why is it so expensive well they sold the patent how come that cologne's so expensive it's bottled on the same conveyor belt well one of them says chanel and the other one just says like you know gas station scent whatever
Or, you know, you look at a painting and you go, that looks god awful. And you go, well, this is actually, you know, a Pollock. And all of a sudden you go, well, this is brilliant. And I'm willing to, and everyone agrees that if it costs more and it's a bottle of liquor, you go, well, you're buying a brand. Everyone agrees if it's a drug, you go, although it's on patent versus off patent.
Everyone agrees when it's an art exhibit, you go, yeah, it's BS, and it's probably money laundering. So we all agree that when the titles detach from reality, like Chernobyl, there is no leak. Well, there is. We all agree that when the titles detach from what they represent, that it's a scam. It's dishonest at best and money laundering at worst.
The eye to me is that if you're a good candidate for a law school, if you have a good podcast, go for it. You shouldn't look at, am I a white guy with blue eyes? Do I have purple hair and identify as a fox? None of that should matter. And it is interesting that we all agree when that happens elsewhere, drugs, bottles of liquor, modern art, that it's horseshit.
Oh, you know, the military industrial, it's a $40,000 screw. Well, you know, Northrop Grumman can charge that for a screw. We all agree in every other aspect of life when this happens that it's nefarious. I think it's just a matter of time before that same logic gets applied to this. We're in the process of it. It'll take some time, but...
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