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Inside the fallout of a stunning national-security leak

Fri, 28 Mar 2025

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Politico’s Dasha Burns joins to discuss the political blowback after the leak of a Trump administration group chat on Signal that included war plans. Plus, Trump pulled the nomination of Rep. Elise Stefanik for U.N. ambassador, mass layoffs at HHS, and what archaeologists learned from ancient footprints in North America. Today’s episode was hosted by Shumita Basu.

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What are the consequences of the Signal chat leak?

5.046 - 35.834 Shumita Basu

Good morning. It's Friday, March 28th. I'm Shemitah Basu. This is Apple News Today. On today's show, senior administration officials have been ordered to preserve the signal group chat involving military strikes on Yemen. Trump pulls his nominee for United Nations ambassador. And major cuts are coming to the Department of Health and Human Services. Let's start with the Signal chat.

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36.254 - 55.905 Shumita Basu

It's been another busy week in Washington as the administration deals with the fallout from mistakenly inviting Atlantic journalist and editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg into a Signal group chat in which they explicitly debated and laid out detailed plans to attack Houthi rebels in Yemen, an attack which killed dozens of people, including children.

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56.625 - 71.797 Shumita Basu

The story prompted questions in congressional hearings, denials and mixed messaging from the administration, and a bipartisan request for an inspector general to investigate the matter. On Thursday, a judge ordered administration officials to preserve the messages on that chat.

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72.317 - 93.133 Shumita Basu

This all comes as the administration continues its immigration crackdown, and the president suggests fundamentally changing the rules around voting. To help us take stock of a flurry of news stories this week, we called up Politico's White House bureau chief, Dasha Burns. Hey, Dasha, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Let's begin with the fallout from this Signal chat.

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93.334 - 116.932 Shumita Basu

It does seem like the administration has been scrambling in their response. Mike Waltz, the national security advisor, has taken responsibility for the mess up. Responsibility-ish, I would say. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he did say, I built the chat. And he also said that we will look into the matter further. Right. Doesn't know how the number got into his phone or how the number got into the group chat.

117.172 - 138.255 Shumita Basu

Right. Right. Meanwhile, we're hearing Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and others try to deflect blame onto the journalist here, Goldberg, attacking his character, attacking his credentials. And then you have President Trump saying the whole thing is being overblown. But I mean, you and I and everyone can read the messages that were exchanged with our own eyes.

138.315 - 151.629 Shumita Basu

We can clearly see that there was extremely sensitive material involved behind the scenes. Are you hearing more concern from people close to the administration than they're letting on?

151.869 - 170.845 Dasha Burns

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, the typical Trump playbook is do not apologize, deny and go on Fox News. Right. And that's very much what Mike Waltz tried to do. And it's not working as well this time around because this time there are these receipts that the entire world, including Republicans,

171.045 - 196.503 Dasha Burns

Senators and members of the House and voters themselves can take a look and can read and can decide for themselves. So behind the scenes, there is a lot of tension and frustration. The frustration with Wallace has been the reticence to accept justice. that he made the mistake of adding the journalist. He has said on Fox News that he's not sure how it happened. He never knew Goldberg.

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