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Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Roasting Met Gala, Last of Us goes Gay, & F1 is IS America

Wed, 07 May 2025

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YERRR – no guest this week, just the boys cookin’ on everything from HBO's greatness to red carpet chaos. We’re talkin’ Last of Us theories, F1 races (and why it might be the best live event ever), recent Padel problems, Met Gala madness, and then Professor Gagnon breaks down Burkina Faso at the end. All that and way more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 00:00 Intro + Mark v Vala rivalry 5:01 The Last of Us's New Love Story & Film industry trends in general 14:52 Who does Anime represent? 19:35 Last of Us Love Scene Problems 24:11 Portnoy defends restaurant & wants to send people to Auschwitz 26:03 Mark's tour 28:44 Is that really Seal’s kid? 32:49 F1 is the greatest live sport 46:43 Jelly Roll is incredible + Schulz hanging with celebs 50:53 Judging the Met Gala looks 1:05:32 Black people conspiracies + Elmo’s Black 1:12:53 Burkina Faso Coup + Shackles of Colonialism 1:26:20 Bukele + Latina America getting their get back 1:35:10 Authoritarianism, Bukele’s Snow + Looking after Homebase 1:45:56 Trump is blatant with his + No more curtains 1:50:49 Vietnam tore down the curtain 1:54:23 Rat experiment + Sperm epigenetics 2:02:18 Counter-points to the rat experiment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What rivalry exists between Mark and Vala?

0.369 - 1.45 Al

I played with Mark the other day.

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1.57 - 1.89 Al

Paddle?

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1.97 - 9.293 Mark Gagnon

Yeah. Sanchez? Pure ass. What's interesting is Al might not have been the weakest link. Vala wasn't bad. So Vala's still the worst?

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9.953 - 12.294 Andrew Schulz

No, Vala plays every day. There's no way.

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13.274 - 19.077 Akash Singh

Oh, God. Oh, God. He is going to watch this and be crushed. He's been working so hard.

Chapter 2: Why is 'The Last of Us' love story controversial?

19.217 - 31.505 Andrew Schulz

I know. He plays all the time. He's on group chats. He's developing, like, paddle culture stuff. Like... And you have a baby you take seven months off and you wipe the floor. There's damage to one of his legs. Is that present at all when he was playing?

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31.545 - 32.006 Mark Gagnon

It's both.

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32.606 - 38.271 Andrew Schulz

And he's not even here. I wish he was. Can we call him? Saul, dude. Yo, Mark is talking shit.

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41.534 - 42.735 Akash Singh

No, no.

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42.775 - 46.338 Al

He's full of shit. First of all, I won with everyone I played with.

46.358 - 49.201 Mark Gagnon

That's not true. He played with Al and they got bageled. No, no, no. He lost.

69.004 - 71.046 Al

When I'm back on Wednesday, let's set it up.

71.106 - 79.913 Andrew Schulz

All right, dude, we'll set it up. All right. We'll love you. Bye. Bye, Vala. Damn, you and Vala got like an interesting rivalry. What's that about, you think? I think...

84.539 - 106.135 Andrew Schulz

shifty is not allowed to have joy today shifty we're being sad and bitter today yes that's okay shifty's about to have the youngest hip and leg transplant in history something vol should have done two decades ago and today is our bitter sad day yeah and then once we process all this bitter and sadness we move on but if you find shifty laughing throughout the episode we have to stop the pilot and acknowledge it yo but do it after the summertime don't do it now but

Chapter 3: How does Hollywood react to trends in storytelling?

131.246 - 137.588 Mark Gagnon

He does have a Luigi vibe, doesn't he? Shifty's got super Luigi-coated energy. Oh, shit, I see it. He does kind of look like it.

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137.848 - 146.151 Andrew Schulz

Okay, Shifty, can you tell us why you were giggling when I said that Vala and Mark have a little rivalry? Can you tell us that, please? In the most sad, sardonic way possible.

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146.451 - 164.513 Al

Mark, you remember when you crushed Vala's sushi in front of him? Wait, what happened? We were filming that trailer. video for the Toronto promo and we're all eating out there and Vala said something smart to you and you didn't have a slick comeback or anything so you just took your thumb and he was eating sushi and he was all happy and you mushed his sushi.

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167.717 - 176.163 Al

And Vala went from laughing like, ha ha, to truly serious. So mad. And then Mark... Where did I learn that from?

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176.203 - 187.331 Al

Where did I learn that from? You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you don't need a slick comeback. Sometimes you need to put your palm in somebody's sushi platter and it works just as good.

187.691 - 190.613 Akash Singh

Oh, no, Mark. You've become a tyrant.

190.833 - 195.456 Mark Gagnon

Vala always starts it. I don't like this idea that I'm bullying Vala. No, Vala...

218.505 - 219.245 Al

No, no, no.

219.306 - 221.768 Andrew Schulz

I've been waiting for him to have a kid so I can mush this.

Chapter 4: Who are the real stars of F1 racing?

Chapter 5: What makes F1 the greatest live sport?

248.741 - 250.002 Al

Damn, bro. What the fuck?

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250.022 - 252.905 Al

He's a wild dude. He's still upset about that sushi mush.

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253.045 - 266.536 Mark Gagnon

Yeah. Love 40, bro. That's me and Vala's whole relationship. What? You had him love for me? Yeah, just in life. It's just love for you. I'm just a point away from decimating you. It's just Love 40.

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266.776 - 273.28 Akash Singh

That is so fun. I was not even here. Oh, man. That is a bar, though. I am going to use that.

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273.34 - 281.146 Andrew Schulz

I think it's 40 love, though. You're serving, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. It's okay. I don't have to do that. I mean, Love 40, it sounds like he's losing.

281.386 - 282.887 Al

Yeah, but it was still fun.

282.907 - 309.165 Andrew Schulz

We got it. We got it. We got it. But obviously, now that everybody listens to the podcast, it's a pass. paddle a fish about that oh guys okay so um what was gay or last night last of us or the met gala what do you want to talk about oh well can you explain last of us yo can i tell you something about this uh so the the video game was gay they had like a lesbian thing in it.

309.605 - 317.892 Andrew Schulz

And you had to do the mission gay? You have to do it. Yo, that's really funny. They don't shift it. You're laughing and feeling joyful again.

318.013 - 322.556 Andrew Schulz

I don't like you laughing and feeling joyful up there. So, are you upset that the TV show is accurate to the game and they include the gay shit?

Chapter 6: What is the significance of the Met Gala?

Chapter 7: How does the Met Gala reflect celebrity culture?

435.146 - 451.397 Andrew Schulz

You put this movie out, they're like, hold on, gay cowboys? Like, who's going to go watch this? And despite the fact that it could have been a huge flop, the actors in it were brave for doing it. It's not like there's, like, all this reward for doing a gay scene. At the time, like, you could look at those characters and be like, ah, they're gay now, I don't want to see them in action movies.

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451.417 - 476.454 Andrew Schulz

They might lose their role in Hollywood. It's courageous. Okay. The movie, just as a theory, movie does really well because it's a good movie, but it's also, like, brave and courageous, right? Mm-hmm. The Hollywood industry reacts and goes, oh, that makes money. Let's do the gay shit. Okay. And then the executives, lower level, start going, we have to share these marginalized stories.

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476.514 - 484.9 Andrew Schulz

We have to do it. And they might actually believe that shit. But at the top, they're just reacting to whatever is successful. Once the top is...

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485.82 - 508.898 Andrew Schulz

forcing in stories that they don't actually really care about they're just doing to make money that people see it as forced if it's an authentic pure story doesn't matter if it's gay or not or it's dei or not like jordan pool shit isn't dei we just like it because it's cool jordan peel right yeah my bad my bad jordan uh one of them is one of them is really good um

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509.978 - 535.227 Andrew Schulz

so jordan jordan's pill stories really work because they're like authentic right and the and the crowd reacts to it because they're authentic it doesn't feel forced when the force shit happens we go ah this is stupid and then we find reasons we justify the blame why it sucks we're like oh this is di this is the other no no it's just inauthentic it's late yeah and it's no longer rebellious it's no longer shocking it's no longer different it just feels like they're cashing in on this idea here's the problem

536.832 - 555.505 Andrew Schulz

When the tech industry wants to cure cancer, they do it for money and they're very open about it. They're like, we think we can make money curing cancer. This drug might help it or whatever it is. We can use AI to locate it early and then remove it, whatever. If it can't make money, they're like, all right, we can't deploy cash towards that. Hollywood has already...

557.032 - 575.56 Andrew Schulz

made their bed with, we're doing this because it's important to share marginalized stories. Once those stories stop making money, the execs at the top are like, damn, we already told everybody we're doing this because it's beneficial to the world. When in reality, we're just doing it to make money. So now we can't exactly pivot off of it too fast.

576.32 - 580.883 Andrew Schulz

Because then it's going to expose the lie that we were doing this for some benevolent reason in the first place.

581.463 - 598.273 Mark Gagnon

Okay. Thoughts? Yeah, I mean, Bezos has a quote where he, it went viral on Twitter recently, where he was like, in order to get outsized gains, you have to bat against conventional wisdom. Yes. So, like, if you go against the grain, you're going to strike out nine times. But if you hit it, you have potentially a thousand X reward. And so I think that happens in the film industry.

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