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Zach Levine

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The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

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We have a bunch of avatars, which is potentially a problem.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

113.935

Brick and mortar. We're out of network insurance. We actually did dying, which we'll get to. Sure. We do 4.2 in revenue. Okay.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

153.68

We've just heard it's a grind, you know, it's commoditized. It is commoditized. Race to the bottom, yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

168.597

because reimbursements from payers are declining each year, whereas inflation costs are going up, and because the amount of people who have out-of-network benefits is dwindling as well. It's mostly just corporate, and that's even declining. Yeah, they're just getting smarter, and they want to push everyone in-network, so we're getting squeezed. Administrative burden through the roof.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

189.648

prior auths, all this crazy shit.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

211.952

Yeah. Yeah. I think we've decided as a team, collectively, we just don't want to be a network. Sure. Because of the lifestyle. No. I guess so.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

269.205

Yeah, it's referrals. Okay. Yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

331.668

Just say we need more. Like, so obviously we have a bunch of different types of avatars. So like really now, like how would you say going about?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

424.746

Over the phone. Yeah. Okay.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

446.621

Got it.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

455.489

What would you do if you were saying from a strategy standpoint, we have the current business that's doing $4.2 million in revenue.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

468.73

Should we do any of the more on the things that are still working within out of network? Like, it's really just that, you know, we have limited resources. How much should we spend on each? Let's be like a new profit. We're basically at zero. Oh, yeah. It's part of the problem. We waited. Yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

495.33

No, but we can remove the lowest reimbursement. We're reimbursing patients, which is like remove Medicare. Then we can lower our cost structure. We can go that route.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Brutally Honest Business Advice | Ep 878

95.762

Hey, Alex. Thanks. Yeah, you bet. So my name is Zach Levine. We sell pain management services to New Yorkers. Okay. Integrative pain, so chiroacuputee.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

17.23

Hey, Alex, thanks.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

18.791

So my name's Zach Levine. We sell pain management services to New Yorkers. Okay. Integrated pain, so chiropractic PT.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

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Yeah, I think we've decided as a team collectively, we just don't want to be a network because of the lifestyle. No, I get it.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

262.748

Yeah, it's referrals.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

29.539

We have a bunch of avatars right now, which is potentially a problem.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

297.957

We've tried a bunch of that. And the issue there is that they want to send in network, or if you're injury attorneys, to workers' comp cases, which don't pay very well.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

326.15

Would you say we need more, so obviously we have a bunch of different types of avatars, so really now, how would you say going about?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

33.562

Brick and mortar. We're out of network insurance, which is a dying, which we'll get to. Sure. We do 4.2 in revenue. Okay.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

414.426

So having them pay up front, actually putting out their credit card. Yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

42.83

Mostly insurance.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

45.132

Yeah. Yeah. 4.2 want to get to 20. Okay. Got it. We have three offices and don't know exactly how to transition out of the dying business model. Obviously our industry is growing.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

544.406

Yeah, definitely.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

551.926

What would you do if you were saying from a strategy standpoint, we have the current business that's doing $4.2 million in revenue.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

565.189

Should we do any of the more on the things that are still working within out of network? It's really just that we have limited resources. How much should we spend on each?

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

576.512

We're basically at zero. Oh, shit. It's part of the problem. We waited, yeah, we waited a little longer than, yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

588.217

No, but we can remove the lowest reimbursement, we're reimbursing patients, which is like remove Medicare, then we can lower our cost structure, we can go that route.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

63.379

In-network, yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

65.861

We've just heard it's a grind, you know, it's commoditized down to the bottom, race to the bottom, yeah.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

74.645

Because reimbursements from payers are declining each year, whereas inflation is up. Costs are going up. And because the amount of people who have out-of-network benefits is dwindling as well. It's mostly just corporate, and that's even declining. Yeah. Yeah, they're just getting smarter and they want to push everyone in network, so we're getting squeezed.

The Game with Alex Hormozi

Transitioning From Dying Business Models | Ep 853

94.114

Administrative burdens through the roof with prior auths, all this crazy shit.