Yvonne Levin
Appearances
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
Jackson was right that the vision they had was not well aligned with the priorities of most of the American public. And somehow that bridge had to be built.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
And so, you know, in a sense... Jackson's critique was a way of saying, look, the world these Hamiltonians want is not the world the American people want.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
I think generally in American history, when populism has been successful in changing our politics, it's been successful by forcing people one or both of the two major parties that we've almost always had to integrate its core critique into their vision of American politics. This is Ival Levin again. And so the parties are good at governing.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
Populism arises as a challenge to the parties, and then the parties respond to that challenge by grasping something about what the public wants that the populists understood better than they did and turning that into a governing vision. I think that's the story of progressivism where it happened in both parties. I think it's the story of the Jacksonian era where the Democrats were able to do this.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
It's the story of the 1970s where Republicans ultimately were able to translate populist energy into a governing vision. We saw this somewhat in the 90s where in Ross Perot, after winning an amazing portion of the popular vote in the presidential election, was then kind of integrated, again, into both parties.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Trump’s Populism Isn’t a Sideshow. It’s as American as Apple Pie.
And both Clinton and Gingrich understood something new because of the Perot phenomenon, and the parties were able to integrate it into their governing visions.