William Happer

Clinton and Gore, yeah.

That's right.

So Washington, fortunately, it's very hard to make anything happen, including firing someone you want to fire because you can't find them in the org chart.

So it took him two or three months to find me.

But they finally did fire me.

I was glad to be fired.

I wanted to go back to do research.

I was tired of being a bureaucrat.

So I'm grateful in some sense for that.

Well, you know, my field is actually hard physics.

You know, I'm a nuclear physics trained and I've done a lot of work with lasers.

And these are things you can measure.

They don't have much political influence.

A lot of them have a military significance.

In fact, the reason I was brought to Washington is because I invented an important part of the Star Wars defense initiative, which I can say about later, but I had never really paid any close attention to science until then.

Climate science.

Climate science, I should say, yes.

So once I had this experience in Washington, I started looking to it a little bit.

But I didn't have time to look a lot because my own research was going still at Princeton.

And we had discovered some things that we were able to form a little startup company.