Will Friedle
Appearances
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Sixteenth Minute (of Fame)
Hey, it's Will Friedle. And Sabrina Bryan. And we're the hosts of the new podcast, Magical Rewind.
Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Sixteenth Minute (of Fame)
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Behind the Bastards Presents: Sixteenth Minute (of Fame)
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Behind the Bastards Presents: Weird Little Guys
Hey, it's Will Friedle. And Sabrina Bryan. And we're the hosts of the new podcast, Magical Rewind.
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Behind the Bastards Presents: Weird Little Guys
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Pod Meets World
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I would love to have seen a little bit more of the Bollywood put into the film. I thought that was going to be the rolling credits.
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I think so, too. And that's a perfect segue here, because Spin was directed by, and again, I'm apologizing if I'm butchering these names, but was directed by Menjari Makjani, I think is how you say it. The Indian filmmaker and daughter of a veteran Bollywood actor is based in L.A. and debuted with the Netflix movie Skater Girl in 2021.
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And that had a very similar plot, following a teenage girl who finds her identity through skateboarding. Spin was her second feature, but she's worked as assistant director on... Wait till you hear this list on some huge releases like Wonder Woman, Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, and The Dark Knight Rises when they were all shot in India. Wow.
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Pretty cool. Or the list of movies Will loves. And the movie is filled with mostly new faces for Disney with only two real exceptions, and the most recognizable is Anna Cathcart. This was actually Anna's third DCOM, as you've seen her before in Descendants 2 and 3 as Dizzy Tremaine, Cinderella's daughter.
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She also appeared in the movie To All the Boys I've Loved Before and the TV show and subsequent movies for Odd Squad. She can currently be seen on the Netflix show XO, Kitty.
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It's such a cute show. Again, I'm saying words. I have no idea what any of these things are. It's not MASH. I don't get it. And Avantika stars in Spin as Rhea, the girl who just came on the screen and stole it. Born in the San Francisco area, she began her career starring in Telugu cinema, eventually transitioning to American projects, where Spin was her first ever lead role.
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She's since starred in Netflix Senior Year and appeared in the comedy musical version of Mean Girls, the horror movie Tarot, and voices Kamala on the Disney animated series Mira, Royal Detective.
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And although she's currently a student at Columbia University, so she's also really smart, set to graduate in 2027, she will star in the upcoming Disney Plus series, A Crown of Wishes, and a thriller theatrical release called Ballerina Overdrive with Maddie Ziegler. Yes, actually, Columbia University, they only accepted one person who was not very smart. It didn't work out.
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His name was Ryder Strong. Abhay Deol plays her father, Arvind. Deol is an award-winning Indian actor known for his work in Hindi films like Manorama Six Feet Under and a massive Bollywood blockbuster called Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara. And again, I apologize to everybody out there if I'm mispronouncing these words. Meera Syal is her grandmother, Asha.
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Syal is an English comedian, writer, singer, journalist, and actress. She does it all. My wife loves British stuff, so I've seen her a thousand times.
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After her breakout as one of the creators of the BBC sketch comedy show Goodness Gracious Me and her role in the movie The Kumars at number 42, she's since become one of the UK's best-known Asian creators and was awarded a BAFTA Fellowship, which is its highest accolade in 2023. Wow. The other past employee of Disney is Aryan Simhardri, who played Rohan.
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He's really worked with the studio an awful lot. You might know him as Grover Underwood in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians TV show, which is actually a great TV show.
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He also appeared in the Disney Plus 2022 remake of Cheaper by the Dozen, another movie on the streamer called Trevor the Musical, the 2020 Disney Channel improv sitcom Just Roll With It, and he's also a voice on Mirror Royal Detective. Yikes, this kid has a very good thing going. Just stay with it. Don't make Disney mad because you are killing it.
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Now, I love the idea that Disney was able to weave in some of the regulars, but also expose their audience to an entirely new film industry with some Bollywood and Indian stars. The combination was seamless. I loved the way they did it. It was really great. Spin is... 94 minutes. Oh, so close. But just ignore four minutes. We'll be fine. We like 90.
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Do you really? I'll get to that. Okay. That's fine. It's four too much. It's just four too much, but it's so close. So we're sorry about that.
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This movie is written by Josh Kagan, a writer whose career has included some really impressive young adult projects, starting with his first breakout hit, which we've talked about on this podcast before, and I got a little bit of shit for, Bandslam, which for Trivia Buffs was also David Bowie's last film.
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Kagan also wrote the movie The Duff and would become a Disney go-to writing the Kim Possible live action movie, Upside Down Magic and Under Wraps 2. And in just a few months, we are going to be able to see his newest entry into the DCOM lexicon, Zombies 4, Dawn of the Vampires. Maybe we got to get Josh in the podcast, but here's the thing.
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I, I love how we break up the movies that we do, but I'm really having trouble not hopping forward and watching some of the new descendants, some of the new zombies. I want to get to these things.
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So we got to get Josh in the podcast though, because he's killing it. He also shares credit with Carly Steiner. And it's something that we also see a lot. She has no other writing credits. So maybe she was paired up with an established writer for her idea. Who knows? But this tends to happen a lot with DCOM.
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She could have come in with a great idea and they just put her with a more established writer. I did that the first time I wrote a script for Thundercats. I'd never written an animated script before. So they put me with a much more established writer who taught me the process. Sure.
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Okay, time to feel the bass through your body because it's time for spin. We open at Spirit of India, a restaurant where we meet Ria. She works at the family business as a waitress and is scrolling her phone looking for the best song to put on her dinner rush playlist. She picks the music is everything mix and turns it up.
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As an Indian-influenced dance track plays throughout the dining room, she starts to get to work. It is a busy, busy place. We see shots of the menu, utensils being cleaned, and cooks very hard at work in the kitchen. Rhea weaves in and out, almost dancing her way through food deliveries, proving that she is a real pro at this.
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This is where I was already dying in the movie because, I don't know about you, but Indian food is one of my favorite things ever, and I was just watching them make this food, salivating watching this movie. How did you feel?
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curry and all the other stuff but oh man oh I love it my mouth starts to like water like in a bad way me too but for a good way yes in the bad way to the point where my wife and I our favorite restaurant in the world is an Indian place in London called Gymkhana and we will get a reservation to that place and then book tickets to London like we will plan our trip around I heard the Indian food in England especially it's marvelously good they have them everywhere right like how we have like sushi restaurants everywhere here it's marvelously good but oh yeah so anyway
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She eventually sends her little brother, Rohan, who's working as a self-appointed maitre d' to the kitchen. And her dad, Arvind, the owner of Spirit of India, pops up and tells his son that Tik Tacos, his idea for a new tikka chicken dish, isn't going to happen. And the whole time I'm just thinking, Tik Tacos sound incredible and I want a plate of it.
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Oh, it is. But oh, man, they sound so good. Rhea is told her grandmother wants to speak to her in the kitchen where she is supervising a busy night of orders. She tells Rhea she can make more effort with her appearance on a crowded Sunday night. She even tries to tweeze her eyebrows. Her grandma tells Arvin to let his daughter go and have some fun.
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She should be enjoying her life, not sweating, serving food every night. She's right. He says she loves it or else she would tell him that she hates it. We also learned that Rhea is the president of her school's coding club. Does the high school you kind of do everything with, do they have a coding club? Because I didn't even know what that meant. I assumed it was something with computers.
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I think that's what it is now where she's like, yeah, it's crazy robotics and all this other kind of stuff.
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Yeah, I would too. It's cool. This is when we meet cute little British boy, Max, that Rhea recognizes as a recent transfer student at her school. He walks in with his mother. He digs the restaurant and once seated, he unsuccessfully shazams the song playing over the speaker.
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Rhea, who gets to do that hipster, I know music like no one else kind of thing, lets him know it's Free Fall Universe by DJ Lucas Scent. He can't believe he missed a new DJ Lucas sent track and is very impressed with the mix she made. He asked if she produces her own stuff and no, just mixes it up to help dinner with the flow.
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So not to give too much away about today's wonderful film that we're going to be talking about, but I just wanted to start with, were you at all jarred by how different a newer DCOM is from one of the older DCOMs?
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They bond over their mutual love of the artist and Max suggests they go record shopping together someday. That's not a euphemism. He really just wanted to buy records. She admits she doesn't have a record player, but Max says he's a DJ, so he has two. Just then, Rhea's grandma comes out of the kitchen and appears to be bothered by the music.
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But in reality, they dim the lights and she starts to get down and lip sync to the tune. The customers and Rhea love it, clapping along to the impromptu show. And eventually it leads to a standing ovation. I think this place rocks. And Max agrees. And I was hoping every once in a while, like I was hoping just because I know how big the Bollywood stuff can be.
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And when you watch it, it's very theatrical and very beautiful. I was waiting for like the waiters were going to start getting involved in anything and And the trays were going to start going behind them. It was going to be a big production musical number.
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Oh, no, I did. I did. I was seriously upset that there was not more big musical numbers. By the way, I'm this red because of this lamp. That's what I'm doing in here. It's not that I'm embarrassed about my musical number.
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It's true. Later that night back at home, Rhea overhears her grandmother talking to her dad downstairs. Her dad is suggesting that maybe Nani stopped dancing at the restaurant, calling it a little corny. But she says she loves doing it and she can't help herself when the music Rhea picks is so great.
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Also, it's a little weird thing to say when the restaurant is packed and people love it and are giving her a standing ovation. It's like, why would you want to cancel that? That's... An amazing part of the night.
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Yes, I think it's that. But I think it's also a little bit more about what we're going to get into right here, which is Arvin admits Rhea's mix helps with the Saturday rush. And they agree that she inherited her mother's ear. Music runs in her veins. And talking about her mom obviously affects Arvin. And that's when it's revealed that her grandmother is actually his mother-in-law.
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And, well, Rhea's mom is dead. Grandma says that the last thing her daughter would have wanted is for him to hide behind work and the kids. They call it a night, but Grandma's concerned, and we see Rhea was nearby listening in, forcing a flashback. So, yeah, I think anything having to do with music at this point, they're setting up, just reminds him too much of his ex-wife. Yes.
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Not ex-wife, his wife who's gone. A younger Rhea is in bed and can't sleep when her. This is the flashback, by the way, a younger Rhea is in bed and can't sleep when her mom enters to help her mom suggest letting the music of the street guide her. There are rhythms and drums and trumpets and common noises everywhere. It's a very nice moment. And young Rhea quickly falls asleep.
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We see her mom walk out of the room and right into the bright light, which obviously means that somebody is dead. The following day at Jefferson High School, she walks by Max, who gives a smoldering, weird kind of head nod, like, hey, my neck hurts, forcing her to get a little bit giddy.
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Her two coding friends, Molly and Watson, notice the pep in her step and want to know about this Max because they can tell that she very much likes him. She does finally admit, yes, he's cute and quickly changes the subject to their new jackets. In the halls, we meet Ginger, a student who's also a famous online influencer, which I think is very funny. and a good friend of Rhea, Molly, and Watson.
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Again, very different than dad-napped. They fill her in on Max and get an online update on the Dance Squad promo event that's happening tomorrow. It's all to raise money for homecoming and is inspired by the holiday, Holly. Everyone wears white and they pelt each other with these brightly colored powder, and the Dance Squad is doing a UV event to alert people about it. Did you know about Holly?
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Well, doesn't it also get into your mouth and your eyes? And that's all I'm thinking the whole time. It's like, are you breathing it in too? Yeah.
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But the bell rings. They're off to class. The teacher, who looks way younger than either me or Sabrina, calls on Molly and Watson to present what they've been working on. Molly makes the teacher sign an NDA, which made me laugh. And Watson presents their invention, the pizza drone. He demonstrates a drone that will deliver pizzas. But of course, it crashes, spilling pizza sauce everywhere.
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Rhea presents an app that tracks inventory at her dad's restaurant in real time, which is pretty great. The teacher is impressed but says the project was an opportunity to have some fun. Rhea swears she did have fun but the teacher isn't convinced. Then she reminds him about the upcoming parent-teacher conference. Ooh, I hated those. It was always not working up to his potential. I'm sorry.
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Oh, I couldn't even imagine. I would still – I'd go right back to being like, oh, my God, somehow I got a U in this class. Yeah, you remember that. That night, Rhea's dad walks in on her tinkering with the app, and he's blown away. He thanks her and says goodnight. The next day at school, while eating lunch, Ginger alerts the gang of a disaster.
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The DJ for the promo event got caught cheating and is suspended, and the blacklight dances in 20 minutes. Watson and Molly offer to beatbox, but they quickly pivot to Max. Rhea admits she hasn't actually heard him, but he seems to know what he's talking about. So, Ginger has the dance squad go and get him, and boom! Crisis averted. He is hired.
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Ginger tells Rhea to come say hi and make sure he knows that she's the one that got him the gig. Smart. Now at the event, Max is quickly getting accustomed to the equipment. He thanks Rhea for suggesting him and says he owes her one. The event starts and Max is killing it right off the bat. The dance squad quickly breaks into a routine while wearing blacklight neon outfits. You know me.
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I love a good dance sequence with blacklight neon outfits. This is truly so cool. I've never even seen it. Does your dance squad do anything like this, Sabrina? Do you neon them up?
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Well, it's this school that's become a full-on rave, and DJ Union Max is basically now rocking a nightclub, and Ginger then books him for the actual festival of color. With the party finished, Ginger thanks Max for coming through on short notice. She nags him, though, by saying he was good, but he'll need to step it up for the big day.
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It's also just brighter and just looks better. I know it's a simple thing to say that it looks better, it sounds better, but it just shows the evolution. You watch a sitcom today and it looks better than it does if you're watching a sitcom from even the 90s. But when we're coming off of Dadnapped to today's movie, it was like the most jarring thing.
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She is off to get some pizza, leaving Rhea alone with her turntable crush. Rhea offers her help to Max to prep for the festival. She knows Ginger's taste. All he has to do is teach her how to DJ. They set a date for a Saturday morning at a record store. I think a record store is kind of a fun first date, don't you?
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Yeah, I agree. Well, now it's the big date morning. Rhea and Max meet at Victory Vinyl and he's picking out records for her. He gives her a DJ lesson showing her the turntables, the mixer, and the crossfader. I kind of dug this because if somebody doesn't know a lot about DJing, he like walked you through what it was, which is great. He explains beat matching, pitch control, and beats per minute.
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The lesson is going very well and it catches the attention of a customer. It's the DJ Lucas Scent. I know so little about this world that I Googled thinking this was a real guy. I was like, DJ, Lucas said I want to hear some of his stuff. This guy's a fake guy. I swear to God, I don't know any of this stuff.
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The duo are, of course, nervous meeting their favorite musician, but he likes what he's heard. He gets them flyers for his Battle of the Beatmasters, which is a contest for team DJs. The winner gets his signature equipment and a personal lesson. Immediately, Rhea says Max will be there. Lucas says he's looking for two things from a DJ. Tell a story and make us care.
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He leaves and wishes them both luck. And man, are they excited. They decide to get coffee to go over the big moment and get to know each other a little bit better. Max says he moves with his mom a lot and it's tough to make friends while traveling. So he DJs because it makes it easier to connect with people.
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Rhea reveals her mom was a great singer for her grandma's restaurant dance show, but she died when she was only eight. He gives his condolences and asks if she'd like to practice with him tomorrow. She apparently is in because we immediately cut to the next day at his place. He teaches her how to scratch.
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By the way, I apologize for me not sounding cool when I say any of these terms, but he teaches her how to scratch. But Max, of course, is disappointed by his mom when she says the music is too loud. She's on a business call. They're obviously not super close. We jump to a montage. We see Rhea practicing with a YouTube tutorial and shopping for more records with Max.
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They seem to be really getting along, even holding hands and having dinner at the restaurant together. But more importantly, she's getting better at DJing and developing her own style very quickly. Even his mom likes her mix. This slightly bothers Max, who again has serious mommy issues. Rhea, though, it seems is a natural.
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Max thinks she can be an actual real artist, but she sees herself as a coder, not a musician. Then she starts to get a barrage of texts. It's parent-teacher conference night, so she has to get to the restaurant ASAP. It is busy at Spirit of India, and her dad isn't happy she's late and leaves for the parent-teacher conference, but he's still a little miffed.
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The minute he's gone, her grandma wants to know all about this Max character. Her snitch brother took an educated guess and told her. Rhea admits, yes, she digs him. Her grandmother warns her to be careful. The cute ones can be trouble. But Rhea promises they're just friends. Mostly. Ooh. Now we are at the parent-teacher conference.
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Rhea's teacher is walking Arvin through her other students' projects and explains that although Rhea's app idea is smart and impressive, she's worried that Rhea is holding herself back from finding something new. Arvin is kind of instantly offended. He would never force her into something she doesn't want to do, and his daughter is like him, very business-minded.
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The teacher, now wanting to be called Naomi, oh, this is getting flirty, swears she meant nothing by it and offers him a donut, like you do. Anyway, Arvin accepts and says if it for the record, so would my wife. We're big donut fans. Arvin accepts and says if his daughter had a problem being at the restaurant, she would tell him. And then, like I said, called it flirting.
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It was like going from a hello, my baby, hello, my honey to watching Star Wars for the first time. It's crazy. So anyway, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were smart, the wave tsunamis and the high school's musical. I'm Will Friedle.
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Naomi, relax. I'm telling you, Naomi. He likes the donut, but he swears his pastries are better. Naomi says she'll have to swing by and judge the food for herself, even saying it's a date. Yes, she asks herself out. She does. Totally does.
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It's closing time at the restaurant and Arvin asked Grandma Arsha if he should cancel this date he accidentally fell into. She encourages him to go have some fun and infers he's focused too much on work and so are the kids. But a great mix is playing and Rhea sure has the skill to pick good tunes off of Spotify.
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Back at school, Rhea joins her friends to work on the Festival of Color website and notices they haven't put Max's name anywhere. Ginger said she's heard his new song and really no one loves it. She's already announced him, so he'll still be DJing, but she's not going to promote him. Rhea rushes to Max's house to listen to the track, and even he knows it's not very good.
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Rhea gets to fixing it, and just like the real guy who turned out to be a fake guy DJ Lucas sent told them, she knows he needs to tell a story. Max said he wants to have fun and likes the, quote, wicked synth pad, the killer bass sound, and the crisp hi-hat pattern, unquote. Rhea explains what her mom told her.
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There is music everywhere and encourages him to find inspiration in the things he really loves, like the beach and skateboarding. And she immediately finds a great sample to add. The mix improves and they decide to call it Feeling Good. And yeah, it improves because Rhea does it all. Keep that in mind. But Rhea realizes she's lost track of time. She's late for the dinner shift.
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At the restaurant, her dad is cleaning the kitchen. So she missed an entire dinner shift. Like you're supposed to be there for dinner shift at four, five o'clock. And then the restaurant's closed. It's like 11. So have you ever lost six hours in a day?
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Our most current yet. No, I won't. It's 2021's Spin. When announced in March of 2020, Spin was first conceived to air on Disney Plus. But just five months later, it became prime for Magical Rewind when it was repositioned as a Disney Channel original movie. It was shifted and redeveloped to premiere traditionally on cable with only one writer replaced from the original announcement.
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It takes two to make a thing go right. Rob Basin, DJ Easy Rock. Man, I'm aging myself anyway.
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Oh, wait, wait. Does the French guys that wore the headpieces, does that count?
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But instead of being angry, her father's just concerned that maybe she hates working there, but she swears she's happy. She says she's just lost track of five hours somehow. He reminds her it'll be busy for the next few weeks and he will need her. She promises she will be there, but it seems like she's starting to question her enthusiasm. The grandmother enters to defend the 15 year old.
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Okay, Sabrina, so we've never really delved into this before, and now we're getting into kind of the nitty-gritty because we've, talking about evolution, been looking at the evolution of what we call the DCOM, but there was like Disney Channel original movies, Disney movies, Wonderful World of Disney movies, Zoog movies. We've seen that there's a whole bunch of these.
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This was one of my favorite parts too. It was a line that was off camera where she's like, he's like, you've now been late twice. And you hear the grandmother go, wow, twice in five years. I wonder if the local university is still going to accept her. Just all these great kind of words.
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I loved her. She had some great ones. So yes, the grandmother enters to defend the 15-year-old Rhea. She should be with her friends, not working herself to the bone. Rhea begs them not to fight over this. She wants to help and won't be late again. She just wants everyone to be happy. And as a people pleaser myself, I know exactly what that's like.
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We get a montage of Rhea out in the busy dining hall night after night, now even ditching coding classes and her friends. Teacher Naomi, which I'm going to start calling inappropriate teacher Naomi, even she notices she's still helping Max with his mix, but getting so tired, dropping plates at work and dozing off at school.
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And now they're back at Max's working on the mix, a process that appears to just be finding a song, calling it sick and then dancing to it. Then Rhea's alarm goes off. It's time to get back to work. But guess who's that spirit of India? Miss Eloy, as I think I say her name, a.k.a. Naomi.
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for the date arvin is a little surprised but ready to impress and ria and her brother are shocked the date goes well and she loves the food but on her way out she asked for a little girl talk with ria miss miss eloy isn't happy she's been missing coding classes watson and molly are counting on her ria gets very defensive and doesn't want people to keep asking her if she's happy
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The next day, Max and Rhea played Ginger, his new mix. And boom, of course, she loves it. While at the restaurant, a baby shower has rented the place out. But Rhea was promised a day off for the Festival of Color. But her dad needs her. And this is where I was starting to be like, dude, you've now got a bunch of people telling you that this girl might not be happy.
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You even start to question if she's going to be happy. She's got one of the biggest things going on that she helped create. Let the girl go. But no, her dad needs her. She's bummed but agrees to stay. The grandma overhears this and is not happy with Arvin. Neither was I, Arvin. Rhea calls Max and breaks the news.
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He's sad about it, kind of, but says he'll swing by later and let her know how it went. He sweetly says he doesn't need luck. He has her. And I was like, aw, they're setting up a nice cute thing. This is gonna, only happy stuff is gonna happen. Mm-hmm.
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the festival and of course at the baby shower things are going smoothly rhea checks in on ginger's social media and has an idea for her brother she offers to get his tic tacos on the menu in exchange for something We are now at the festival. Ginger introduces Max to perform. And guess what? Rhea is on her way there, too. She apparently ditched work.
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So do you think we can yet discern the differences between what would be a DCOM and a Disney Plus original movie? I don't think we have that eye yet.
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That's what she was talking to her brother about. And she's finally called back. Watson and Molly. She admits she's been a bad friend and apologizes, but promises after today she'll be a better friend. I thought it was a very nice call. A good scene. I love scenes where people take responsibility for the things they've done.
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Ginger announces to the crowd that they've raised enough money for not only homecoming, but for a pretty nice hotel. Not too nice, just pretty nice. Maybe a jacuzzi and a late checkout. Then it's time for DJ Max's new song. It starts, and so does the Holly Chalk Fireworks. Color is everywhere. It goes all over the partygoers while they love the track.
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And Rhea finally arrives just in time to watch Max kill it. She is very proud. We get some cool slow-mo shots of this beautiful... Colored shock flying everywhere. The song is pumping. Did you like the song? Is it a good song? I did. I did.
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Max then announces that the song title is Feeling Good, the song they wrote, and apparently it's available to stream. He says he couldn't have done this himself. He wants to thank someone for their help. And then he thanks Ginger.
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So, yeah, she feels betrayed and rightfully so. After the gig, Max is signing autographs for fans when Rhea confronts him. She asked why she didn't get a shout out and he says he was too excited and slipped his mind. This doesn't feel any better for her. She named the song. She invented the concept. She even came up with the main vocal hook. How could this slip his mind? He gets very defensive.
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He says, look, she helped. But remember, this is his thing. OK, his equipment. He's the DJ. She's not an artist. She makes Indian food restaurant mixes. Oh, what a dick, dick, dick. See, I can DJ.
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It was such a quick change for the character. You're like, in, in, in, in. I hate him. Like, it was that quick.
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Yep, that's what it was. And it just happened so fast. Like, oh, man, they instantly made me not care about this guy at all.
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His mom's going to move him in another month anyway. So, yeah, but she says she'd never take credit for others work and storms off. Max wants to follow her. But unfortunately, his headphones are connected to the mixer. So it's just like a leash. He can't go anywhere. And apparently I have it on very good authority that that actually is what happens.
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Then we see that Ginger and the coding friends all heard what Rhea said to Max. Max says Rhea was just being dramatic, but they call him a filthy liar and they walk away. And I love that her friends are instantly on her side. It's like, and now Max's persona non grata. Back home, Rhea is, of course, in very big trouble.
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Her dad knows she left mid-shift, which would be hard to hide, seeing as she's colored in multicolored paint. And now he can't count on her anymore, which I was like, dude, that's harsh. She's missed a day of work in five years.
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She says she's sorry. And she's 15. And she's 15, exactly. She says she's sorry, but he grounds her for two months, which, again, the grounding, I understand. You can't lie, but give the girl a break. Rhea then breaks down in her room. The stress has finally gotten to her, and she's been dealing with a lot of stress. I felt for this girl.
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Eventually, Aria joins her grandmother to pray and explain why leaving the restaurant was an emergency. She says she went to the festival and had her heart ripped out by Max. She wants to return to Spirit of India and pretend that none of this ever happened. Her grandmother says she refuses to let her hide in her work like her dad does.
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Aria feels like it's her responsibility with her mom gone, but her grandmother says it's not her job to make everyone happy. The grandmother was so amazing in this movie.
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Grandmother encourages her to make a new song. Make so much music, it'll crush Max.
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When Rhea worries she's out of ideas, her grandmother smiles and says her mom used to say the same thing. Every time she finished a new song, she'd feel tapped out. Then the grandmother pulls out a box full of tapes, jewelry, and photos. It's audio of Rhea's mom's songs. They find one tape that says, For Rhea.
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And it's funny, I was talking to somebody about that exact same thing, about watching a new sitcom on something like ABC versus when it streams. And as an actress from one of the new sitcoms that's on who said, oh, every promo we do, every press we do that we have to end with. And it's airing tomorrow on Hulu, tomorrow on Hulu, tomorrow on Hulu.
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That night, Rhea listens to her mom's music, finding new and emotional inspiration in their connection, even standing by the window and finding music in the streets outside like she was taught growing up. The next day, Ginger, Molly, and Watson go to Rhea's house with a box of stuff. They know she can't leave the house, so they came to her with DJ equipment. I thought this was funny.
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Like, so we just came here. They did great friends. They tell Rhea she'll need this stuff to win the DJ contest. They submitted her mixes and she's in and she's going to compete against. Wait for it. Max. But how will she win if she can't leave the house? That's when her grandmother enters. Don't worry. She'll take care of it. We enter a montage of sorts. Ginger, Molly and Watson working on music.
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Her friends even comb the streets, sending her the videos of sounds to inspire new records. Rhea even uses sound she finds in the restaurant and she decides on her DJ name. It's going to be. Rhea. Hey, it works. Plus, you've got all the stuff already. You're letting your names on everything. It's just easier. While Rhea practices at home, Arvin wants to talk to his daughter.
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He likes what he hears, but she's timid to talk about her new passion, and he walks out, which makes sense because music is the thing that connected the whole family, and so that's got to be tough. She sees a new social media post from Max bragging about the battle, and she's more motivated than ever. She decides to add one more element to the track, her mother's singing.
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She plays a song for her grandma, who immediately recognizes her daughter's voice. Rhea's calling the song, It's All Music, and will wear her mother's jewelry at the event. Very, very sweet. Did you cry?
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When did you cry earlier? With the flashback of the mom. Oh, you cried with the flashback.
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We are back at the spirit of India. Things are really busy again. Arvind calls Grandma Asha. He gave her and Rhea the night off, but he needs Asha back. She apologizes. She's stuck on the subway, and he needs to figure out what to do without depending on his daughter and mother-in-law. We are now at the packed Battle of the Beatmasters. Rhea enters with her grandma.
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They're both sporting big smiles and sparkly golden outfits. I loved bringing in the Indian kind of heritage. So cool. Wardrobe here, it was perfect. She's rocking the jewelry. It looked great. The panel of judges include fake but real DJ Lucas Scent and contestants will be judged by skill and level of applause after two rounds. Never like applause meters. It's just a popularity contest.
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Backstage, Max bumps into Rhea and tells her he never meant to hurt her. But Rhea says, this isn't about you. It's about making music. And she just doesn't care.
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I'll name the Helmet Guys. I'll remember the Helmet Guys. They're on the list, but I'll remember the Helmet Guys.
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Yes. DJ Jazzy Jeff. Okay, good. I'm at five if I can think of the Helmet Guys names. We are now at the semifinals and even Miss Eloy, well, inappropriate Miss Eloy is there. We see DJs with names like DJ Len Cool, Lavender Bear, Colossus Creation, then Union Max. The little jerk is a pretty good set passing Rhea on her way out, who also gets the crowd and her grandma dancing.
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With the first round done, then the finals are set. It's DJ Union Max versus Rhea, which I'm glad that worked out or it would have been a weird movie if it was DJ Union Max against somebody else.
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Ginger goes live on Instagram from backstage and back at Spirit of India, her snitch ass punk brother accidentally lets her dad see what's going on. Now the dad and brother rush out of the restaurant. Arvin looks furious. As they sit in traffic, the finals have begun. DJ Union Max is up first and the crowd is feeling his set. He's going to be hard to beat. But now it's Rhea's turn.
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She's announced, but she hasn't come out yet. We can feel the tension. It's starting to build. Is she quitting? And then in the wings, we see her and she's feeling very hesitant. But Rhea takes one last breath and walks out. She places her laptop and records down and works hard to find a calmness and then presses play. It's a chill song made up of wind sounds, bird chirping, and splashes of water.
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It's somewhere between Enya and a rainforest, by the way. Huge Enya fan. No problem saying it. I will die on that hill. The beat eventually drops, and even Max knows he's done for. Rhea adds one last element, her mom's tape. Her mother's haunting voice mixes into the track just as her dad and brother enter the event. Makes me wonder who's watching the restaurant. Rhea is in the zone.
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I mean, just in the zone, feeling her mother's presence. The climax of the song hits, and then guess what? My favorite thing ever happens. Everyone in the audience magically knows a synchronized dance. What a coincidence.
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I know, but then everybody's doing it. They're all such fast partners. And you know that's my favorite thing. I love that. When they started banging on stuff, I was like, I hope they break into song because that's Sabrina's favorite thing. Rhea's dad is so proud and emotional. He asked Miss Ella, you know what? Let's just call her Naomi. Isn't she amazing?
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But she responds with less talking, more dancing. The song comes to a big celebratory end and the judges give her a standing ovation while her dad is wiping away his tears, much like Jensen did during that Christmas movie with the tree. That snitch ass brother sees his opportunity to ask for tick tacos to enter the menu. And he agrees they should have been on anyway. They sound amazing.
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The judges calculate their votes. With Max and Rhea back on stage, DJ Lucascent congratulates them and announces the Beatmaster champion. It's Rhea. Backstage, Rhea hugs her grandmother and asks her dad if she's grounded. He says quite the opposite. He couldn't be happier. They hug and DJ Lucascent appears. He loved her set. Fans and friends swarm her, eventually seeing Max in the crowd.
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He just walks away, now a total garbage loser. And part of me as he was leaving was like, yeah, serves him right for being moved every couple months. This kid has no friends and now no one in that school likes him either. Damn.
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It's pretty harsh. It's harsh. Now it's like, oh man, I finally found a place. Anyway, we end the movie now at something called DJ Sundays, a new night at Spirit of India. Rhea is DJing and the place is bumping. The credits roll and we see all the characters partying and dancing, including her grandmother. We even see Tick Tacos and Miss Naomi, who now appears to be dating Arvin.
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And to top it all off, Molly and Watson's pizza drones deliver a dish to a table. We pull out to see a line outside, all party goers waiting to get in and that is our movie. Wow. I still can't think of the two masked French guys. It'll come to me.
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Totally different world. I know. Anyway, Spin debuted on the channel almost exactly one year later after all this, August 13th, 2021. And it became the very first DCOM to feature an Indian American in the lead role. And only one other DCOM at all centered around Indian culture. Sabrina, do you know what movie that was?
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You want more the Johnny... Like an apology, you jerk. You want Johnny handing the trophy to Daniel LaRusso at the end of Karate Kid and saying, hey, Daniel, good match. You want that recognition.
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i don't want you to not have friends either so do the right thing i know and actually like say you're sorry hey you deserved this i was wrong you know nothing no this is why max has no friends this is why max has no friends max i have the one star and this of course is uh given to us this week by big orange nation 41 which just begs the question there's 40 other big orange nations
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Here we go, one star. I know it's a movie, but learning how to DJ takes years and years. Also, producing music literally takes years. You can't Rain Man your way into dance music. This movie is stupid. And according to Disney, I could learn how to fly a plane in a couple of days or learn how to be a three-star Michelin chef after a weekend cooking class. One star. Wow.
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No, there's no sparkle dust and or magic. And now, of course, we are coming to our favorite portion. Well, I like it. Sabrina loves it. which is our game, our feature of the week. And this one is called Beat Per Minute. Of course, producer Jensen does these now, I think specifically just to annoy Sabrina, which is kind of my favorite part of the day.
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So to honor the art of DJing, we will be given an iconic song and a number of beats per minute. We have to decide whether the actual BPM is higher or lower than that. Yikes. So say we're given a song and the number is 108 beats per minute. We have to answer with a higher or lower three out of five wins. So here we go. You're a musician, so you could probably do this a lot better than me.
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Number two, Hotel California by the Eagles, 150 beats per minute. It has to be less than that, right?
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It's a slow song. It has to be less than that. It is lower, but by very little, 147. Wow, okay. Number three, You Can't Touch This by MC Hammer, 129 beats per minute. It's got to be above that.
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Higher than that. It is higher, 133. You got two, one more. Ghostbusters by Ray Parker Jr., 130 beats per minute.
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There you go. I'm going to say it's I'm going to say it's higher than 130 beats per minute.
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Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter, and I'm the only person in the world, and I love Sabrina so much, that has never heard this song.
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I can't wait. Oh, I can't wait either. This aired as part of Disney Channel's Friday the 13th is Fun Lucky. I didn't make that up. Friday the 13th is Fun Lucky night of premieres, which might just be the least catchy promotion name I've ever heard of. It's like if they said must see TV is make sure you watch this television.
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And I love Sabrina to death. She's an awesome person. I just, I don't listen to new music.
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So is it, then you got to win this or lose this for us. Will, I guarantee you've heard it in like a CVS. Okay, then maybe, okay. Then again, I've never recognized like, oh, that's that song. Yeah, you don't know.
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All right, Sabrina's going with higher. So I'm going to go the opposite and say lower. Okay. Will has a winning strategy.
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I was betting against the house. Oh God, that's so funny. All right. You hedged him. Yeah, I did. I hedged my bets and I won again. I love that. Always. Thank you, producer Jensen. It's fine. When in doubt, bet against Sabrina. Can we do some Sabrina C's please?
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It is. Oh, my gosh. It's bad. It showed immediately after the channel premiere of Toy Story 4 and right before Descendants, The Royal Wedding and Disney's Magic Bake Off. So quite a huge night of entertainment.
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Yeah, as a voiceover actor, we don't usually carry our headphones with us, but maybe that's different for DJs. I don't know. Maybe that's what they do.
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The film racked in. Now, here's where it gets strange because, you know, we talk about numbers every week and we're saying this was a big one. It had five million viewers and four million viewers. Then comes streaming. So this film racked in 535,000 viewers for its premiere. And this, unfortunately, was another first.
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Well, then let's rate it. Let's do one out of ten. Let's do one out of ten this week. Okay.
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Let's do one being the worst and ten being the best. We'll switch it up. And our options this week are going to be one out of ten wicked synth pads, one out of ten killer bass sounds, one out of ten crispy hi-hat patterns. Okay. Pretty nice hotels. Mommy DJ issues. One out of 10 pizza drones. One out of 10 headphone leashes or one out of 10 lavender bears. What would you like, Sabrina?
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I want to add one out of 10 tick tacos because I think that's that's a good one, too.
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They do. I think I think you went first last time. So it's up to me. I really liked this movie. I thought she the star. She's a star. I mean, she's clearly you see people walk on screen where it's just like, oh, OK, she's going to be huge. I'm giving this a solid 8.5 TikTokos.
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This was a very good movie. I enjoyed myself. I'm sure it helped coming right off of Dadnapped. I really do. I disliked that movie so much that seeing this was kind of a breath of fresh air. So I really liked this movie. I thought it was great. 8.5 TikTokos for me.
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This was the first DCOM ever to score less than a million viewers in its first airing. And this, my friends, is just the new norm with streaming services. Kids don't watch traditional TV. So we just talked about it. Neither of us like it, but that's the new way it is. It's just absolutely the new normal.
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Yeah, highly recommend this movie for everybody. If you haven't seen it, it is very good. But our next movie is another very niche skill-based movie. What happens when an athlete's true passion is rope jumping? Yes, it's 2007's Jump In, starring former Magical Rewind guest Corbin Bleu and one of Hollywood's biggest names in 2025, Keke Palmer. It is on Disney+, so feel free to watch it ASAP.
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And while we wait... This week on our Park Hopper episode, we will be chatting with actress Tanya Gennady, who will bring us back to two wild decoms we covered a while back and are still, frankly, obsessed with. First, Pixel Perfect, where she played Cindy, the lead singer of the Zetabytes, before Loretta, a pesky AI hologram, took over.
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And secondly, and most notably, she was Mojo, the hockey-playing and very spiritual quirky pal in Go Figure. We had a lot to talk to her about. And, oh, man, she is so... Much fun. So please listen to a sneak preview of the interview right now.
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It was, we were just, I would seriously smile the entire time. She is hysterical and a lot of fun. So don't miss it. Make sure you also subscribe to our dedicated Magical Rewind feed on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more info, you can follow us at Magical Rewind Pod on the Instagram machine now. By the way.
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I've also thought about Carl Cox, Smoke and Joe, David Guetta, Martin Garry, Charlotte DeWitt, Steve Aoki. I know all these DJs. What are you reading?
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What about Paul Van Dyke or John Digweed or Ariel Free? These are all dance DJs.
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Then, even after the scheduling changes, it was finally added to Disney Plus in November of 2021 as part of Disney Plus Day, an annual celebration and content dump for the anniversary of the streaming service's launch. I don't think there's any mail service on that day. I know that I like to celebrate that day alone. It's just how I observe. It's a monumental occasion.
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Diplo. I've heard of Diplo. Hey, I got one. This is the cheating list I still have never heard of. Oh God, I'll get better. Bye, everybody.
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I do. I love it. I get my Disney Plus candles and I'm very happy. Nice. Spin was the first DCOM to be filmed during the pandemic. Yes, it was shot in, well, Toronto, Canada. So there you go. It gives us a small Utah break from October 5th, 2020 to November 20th, 2020. So it was right in the mix of an absolutely insane time in the world. Very little was filming.
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And as you can figure out by the dates, viewers that ended up waiting... 378 days to see the finished product. That is the longest wait ever between new DCOMs.
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Doesn't it? Well, it is. With the short attention spans that social media has given us, 378 days is 9 million years. And worth noting that Spin was released in India on Disney Plus Hotstar, which is their version of the studio subscription service, and Disney International HD, their version of the channel, on August 15th, 2021, Indian Independence Day.
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Now, obviously, this was a very big deal for their country, so there was a lot of promotion and fanfare to coincide with the celebration. Really cool. The soundtrack to Spin, which is an important element to the movie about DJing and EDM, was released two weeks before the movie aired and features all the music you hear in the film.
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All the songs are written, produced and performed by Marcus DeVries, who is a Grammy winner whose previous work includes movies like Coda, Kick-Ass and Sucker Punch. And someone chime in if I'm wrong here, but I'm going to assume that this was Disney's first foray into music that you might hear at a rave. Is that right? I mean, have we heard other music in Disney?
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Have you? Is it sad that, no, the only DJ I know is DJ Pauly D from Jersey Shore. Is that I know it's just not my thing. It's not my kind of music. But but hey, it was impressive. Also, as always, because there's technically dancing in this movie, we have to ask you, you know, a woman with now your own line of dance pants and dance tops, which is called what again?
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Yes, it was almost like a language unto itself, the dance moves they were doing.
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So I did like it. I'm going to talk to you about that later because I don't necessarily agree. Okay. I honestly think it could have used a little more of the dance stuff. Really?
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All right. Now, Spin may have been a quote-unquote failure when it came to the Nielsen ratings, but critically, it fared much better. Amy, okay, now I just want to preface everything I'm going to say in this episode. There's a lot of names that are very difficult to pronounce. So I apologize right off the bat for my pronunciations for some of these names.
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But Amy Amanteglio of Paste said it really conveys the thrills of a first crush or holding someone's hand for the first time without making the entire movie just about romance, which she liked. And I don't disagree with that. And it got a positive review from Mashable calling it revolutionary and delightful in the DCOM Movie Library. And this has an 80% score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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It also received the Reframe stamp, which is an award given by the Gender Equality Coalition, Reframe and IMDb Pro for films or TV projects that are proven to have gender balancing hiring, especially women of color, in four of the right key roles of production. Not a common distinction, unfortunately.
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It was also nominated for two Children and Family Emmy Awards, Outstanding Fiction Special and Outstanding Directing. All right. We always ask, what did you know about Spin before it came to our watch today?
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You know, I always say no. And I didn't know the title, but I did know this movie. I don't know how. I don't know if I read the script or it was talked about in a couple meetings I had at Disney. But as the movie started, I was like, I know this movie. So I hadn't seen it, but I've either read the script or talked to producers about this specific film because I knew what was going on.
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I think that's what it was, but I can't remember. But either way. Okay. Why don't we get into our synopsis? 15 year old Rhea Kumar, who lives with her tight knit multi-generational family, realizes her true passion is to become an EDM DJ. Sabrina, early thoughts. What did you think of the movie?
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I completely and totally agree with you. It was one of those things, I think a lot of it helps that I'm coming right off of Dadnapped.
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Which, talk about a different vibe for a Disney movie. This felt... Modern. It felt big budget. It felt real. It felt the acting was incredible. The cast was wonderful. None of it felt forced. It was I fully enjoyed this movie. I again, music. So I was like, I don't know how I'm going to feel. Loved it. And I, I disagree.
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All of that stuff I think is... Could have been played for comedy and would have been fine, but it's really played for drama. Like, I give you the mantle of being his mom. And you're like, well, that's probably not something we should all be proud of. Let's examine Corey needing a mom for a moment.
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Maybe he is a little too young to get married if he's wanting somebody to pick up after him and, you know, wash his socks. Like, that's...
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Yeah. For me, it doesn't rub me the wrong way as a concept. It's just the self-seriousness, like the way that it's treated, like it's this great, like it's actually an emotional thing that she and Topanga need to learn and to come to terms with and that they need to accept and bridge between the two. It's like, whoa, hold on. Like, play it for a joke.
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Like, I'm passing the mantle of Ryan as close. That could be funny. Like, I get it. Like, because there is some truth to that, but not to make it like it's this wonderful thing. I mean, for me, it's so funny that you didn't like Topanga in this, Will, because like Corey just rubbed me like. I was like, wait, what happened?
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Like the first episode, clearly he's oscillating between marriage, not marriage. And so for him to be so angry and righteous throughout the whole first half of this episode, I was like, dude, on the way here, you were freaking out about it. You changed your mind. You know, like that was the whole point of the last episode. And it just didn't feel right. Right.
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That's why I like Topanga is because it was like she was driving it at first and then it was we're going down the aisle. And then not only am I going to say I can't marry you, but then I'm just going to leave you there. Not going to explain anything. I'm just going to turn around and leave you standing in front of these other two people without saying why. Not giving you an explanation.
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And then we're going to cut to the car where then at the end, Corey apologizes to Topanga. Like he's like, well, but he says something and she's like, there you go. Well, he dragged him there and then left them there after proposing to him without explaining why. But I get every right to be angry. No, because I disagree. I mean, he's been all over the place the whole first episode.
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So it seems to me like the actual reaction for both Corey and Topanga would be like, what is happening?
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drag him to this place on the show they went together they went together it was his idea he was like come on we're getting out of here yes we're going and she's like in the last one she's like well wait if you're so into this why did you just pass the thing and he's like don't so he's the one who's still not entirely sure what's going on she is they get down the aisle he says i do i love you i'll be there forever she says i can't and goes sorry and bails
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Not like, hey, Corey, look, we shouldn't be doing this. Just leaves him standing there in front of these two people like, hey. And he's like, it was actually her idea. And then they get into the car and she's like, well, how long are you going to be mad at me? And then he's like, you're right. And she's like, thank you. Like, yeah, you did owe me some. It's like, wait. This was all on Topanga.
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What the hell? I don't think it is on Topanga. But he comes in with so much anger. And actually, to me, it seems like the joke is that he's angry that he's not going to get to lose his virginity. I mean, I feel like there's a couple of references to that.
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So I got I was like, dude, Corey, like, why not ask her why she you know, like, why not be like sympathetic to the fact that this obviously just panicked and freaked out for very clear reasons that you should understand, because, you know, an hour ago, you also were going back and forth. That's right. I disagree. To me, the scene should have taken the visual of the young couple scared.
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explaining why they shouldn't get married right in front of the couple that's been together for 60 years is the scene. So for her to just go, sorry, and leave, and he's just in front of her.
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And then the little sympathetic things at the end, like, I'm so sorry you hate me, Amy. Like that, all those kind of things. It was like, oh, now she's playing the martyr. It was like, I just didn't, I thought Topanga was all over the place in this episode. And I didn't, it was for the first time where I was really like, ooh, I'm not a fan of hers this time. And then Ben is all, Ben.
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Corey always takes that righteous tone. And I kept hearing Michael's voice in my head for a lot of the Corey scenes where anger is never funny. Stop playing anger. Stop playing anger. And he played anger for most of the episode. Yeah. No, I agree. That car scene just drove me crazy. Yeah, me too. I was like, what? And it's because of the way it's written is like – Yeah. Corey is just so angry.
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And it's like kind of in this generic, funny way. It's like, ah, you know, there's 10 minutes. And it's like, OK, well, wait, then are you mad? It was. Yeah, it was a weird episode.
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They got paid for two weeks. Yeah. Showed up for one day. Yep.
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So we get our new totally... As we were talking about Foofy, the whole time I'm watching the episode, I was thinking to myself, this was 1998 and this old woman... 20 years. ...lived for another 20 years after this. That was awesome. I just kept thinking, she was 105.
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It's taken a while, but I've done it. I've connected Boy Meets World with MASH. Like seven degrees of Kevin Bacon style? No, like it'll be one degree, and it is now canon as far as I'm concerned.
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That's what you should change your name to is Daniel Topanga.
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Now we're cooking with gas. Doesn't he say something like, I was a man about it? Oh, does he? Yeah.
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Yeah, this was my first indication that Corey, like, yeah, I hate to see that. I'm like, wait, who is this Corey?
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I know. Like I get it. It's a funny line, right? Like it's a, it's a, like this and the next scene, I feel like we're written for like yelling banter, which is like trying to be funny, but it's actually doesn't make any sense with Corey's character. And actually he would be hurt and concerned. Like that is the Corey.
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Corey would be like, and it actually is like this reversion to first season Corey, where he's like, ah, the smart alecky, like the universe is always out to get me.
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It just doesn't fit. It's like, well, hold on. Like he is. And then he turns on Amy in like three scenes with so much like, and it's like, hold on. What if that Corey would be so concerned about his wife to be right now? And like, I don't know. It's just like, but instead we get the like, I drive a thousand miles and she don't like my tone. I'm like, what is this? What is happening? Yeah.
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What happened to the neurotic guy? Like, he would be freaked out. I don't know. It's just, it's like generic funny dialogue. I thought that deserved more anger than anything else because I felt, I was like, she just dumped, she just left him right there at the altar after proposing to him and they went through this whole thing and now she's like, I'm out. And I was like, okay.
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Tell us. Okay, I want to know. The world? Yes, they live in the same world, and I think the characters, or some of them, the families have met. So there's a very famous episode of MASH called Adam's Ribs. It's arguably one of the most famous episodes of MASH ever.
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So that, I felt like that anger, but then it was switched in the car to where she was then, they were both angry at each other. It was... It was a strange tone for the start of the episode all the way around, I thought.
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Yeah. That's what I mean. I feel like it's like It's a heightened comedy voice that is funny on its own. But in the context of, like, our show and in the context of Corey, really doesn't work for me. And I was just like, this feels off. This doesn't feel right. And yeah, and then, like, your favorite word is don't. And then this whole next run about it'll have to be white burning white sun.
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Virgin references? Yes. Okay. I was like... he's angry because he's not getting laid. Like that's kind of the, which maybe could have been funny, but instead it just felt, I don't know. It just didn't work for me. Can we also, I don't get the timing of the episode, meaning they drove a thousand miles and then there's a scene where everybody comes over. It's three o'clock in the morning.
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And then they have a party waiting for them when they get back. In the morning, the next day, yeah. It's the next day, okay, because then Feeney says something about what you did tonight.
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Corey and Topanga have been up all night. He's just saying tonight as if it's the same day, but they just haven't slept. If they really drove a thousand miles. Right. You're talking hours and hours of driving.
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Yeah. OK. All right, yeah, it was weird trying to figure out what the actual breakdown of the- But why would you have to drive 1,000 miles to get married? You don't. I don't know. Especially on the East Coast. You go to- Atlantic City? Atlantic City, and you go get married. It's not that hard a thing to do. I've done it six times. Yeah.
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Yeah. Hawkeye freaks out because they've had the same liver fish every day to eat for 11 straight days. He starts to go nuts and he starts to have a craving for ribs from a very specific place called Adam's Ribs in Chicago. Yeah. So he calls the place in Chicago. He orders the ribs up. And now they have to find a way to get the ribs from Chicago to Korea.
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You think Corey would marry Topanga if they were having sex? Honestly, like I think that's they've made it to where that's really important to him. It's one of the reasons he's getting married is because he wants to have sex. Yeah, this is we need to have a Q&A episode. Put this to our listeners. It's as important as should she have gone to Yale?
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Would Corey, if he was not a virgin, would they still have gotten married?
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That's, that's, I think, I think the way the idea is that she's processing it in real time, which it could have been like, I think, I think if, if Topanga just realizes like, Oh my God, I can't do the thing I'm supposed to say. I can't say the thing I'm supposed to say.
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And then sits in the car and is like, no, Corey, I wanted, I realized I, you know, if it was more present tense and it's just the way it's written and the way it's played is like,
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Yeah, correct. Yeah, it doesn't work in this situation. It's funny a lot of times with Corey and Topanga, but not with the seriousness of what just happened. It just doesn't fit. Yeah.
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Juice box business. That's the other name for the scene.
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Tee it up, creeps and weirdos. Eric walks in. Number one. We're going to do this two more times. It's a pretty fun runner, though. It's the gift that keeps giving, guys. I thought it was a fun runner. And it gets less funny every single time. I disagree. I thought it was great. I thought it was great.
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Then why go over? Why not be at home with the six foot tall Wonder Woman who's asleep in the room next to her at the foot of her bed creepily like he apparently wants to be? I don't know.
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I really, I knew, I was just like, oh, Will's so pissed it's not a soda can. He can't tap it. He's got to figure out how to get that straw in there. I can see it. Figure it out. What to do with it. Pull the chair and then put the box. I need business. I need business.
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So he's asking everyone in the camp, hey, does anybody have an idea of how does anybody know anybody in Chicago? Finally, Trapper John, his best friend there and roommate, says to him, I dated a woman, but it was a one night stand. God, what was her name? Mildred. Mildred Feeney. That is who we have. And they call Mildred Feeney in Chicago.
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Such a good read. This is a very weird read. I watched this and I was like, you know what? I actually did not play the joke at all, which makes it even funnier. It is so earnest. Like I am so disappointed. You feel sad for him. Yes. I'm like, oh my God, this is like, just no. I can't believe the audience went for it, though. It actually is not a sitcom read. It's like a straight drama read.
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Awesome. You poor, poor man. I don't know. My brain can't go to the... It's so good. It's so weird. I'm just glad that our audience went. I'm glad they went with me because I did not play it for comedy.
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Me too. Might have been my favorite joke of the entire episode.
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Oh, that's funny because I was like, that is a truly weird writer read. Like, I don't think I was playing the joke at all. It was great. Perfect. Sometimes the best comedy, man. Yeah. Not played for the joke at all. Right.
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Then here's the thing that we were talking about last episode. Like... So they all just now they actually have confirmation.
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OK, so for the record, a thousand miles north of Philadelphia is in Canada. Yeah. Oh, do they say north? Yeah. You said north, didn't you? I think you say north.
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Nova Scotia. Yeah. Northeast is you're in another in another country. Montreal. Yeah. Farther than Montreal. I think even you're you're in like way up north.
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Maybe. Yeah, then you're in the Saskatoon. You'd get it like, yeah, do you take you? Sorry. Do you take you? Sorry.
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When's the next Creepin' Weirdos? When's the next Creepin' Weirdos?
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How can we set it up? Do you think it's over?
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Why would Sean need to crash on the Matthews couch?
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This show is so effortless. There's like so much effortlessness going into this writing. Oh my God.
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It's so free. Okay, so Ryder did not like the runner. Topanga, did you like the runner?
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Don't do it. Oh, my God. Again, I can't do it. so feeny walks in how you doing now he gets his juice box doing his jbb jbb that he couldn't sleep either fjbb it's a whole nother level that's like upper you need like an upper degree that's when you learn jbb on stage back exactly that's when you started at five
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on broadway if you've done 1776 you can do it's right that's right he says you have the lights on everyone's yelling eric parked his car in my garden eric okay you said it this is the line where i was like wait a minute because you guys know like how you do a boston accent yeah you use the phrase what Pock the car. Pock the car. Pock the car and Harvard Yard.
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Okay. So I could not believe this runner. I was like, oh my God. I went back and watched it like four times. Can we play the clip that's called Pocked the Car?
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So this is, I've decided I'm going to learn how to do the Bill Daniels accent. Okay. This, I'm going to do it. And I hope you guys will join me on this journey. And I think maybe some of our listeners should do this too. This, I feel like this line is the key. Wow, the lights are on. Can't sleep. I can't do it. And you parked your car in my garden. My garden. I'm going to fit.
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I was double checking to get the numbers right before I brought it up. The numbers? Well, because the years. It's 1951. Okay. Okay. Yeah, it's supposed to be 51 at this point. So Feeney is, so I'm thinking it's Mr. George Feeney's sister who's from Chicago. So I think Trapper John from MASH actually slept with George Feeney's sister. Boy Meets World and MASH, same world and connected. Wow. Okay.
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Okay, so then I was like, let's go back. Let's find more. Like, what are the quintessential Feeny clips? The other one, I wanted to go all the way back to season one. Oh, God. Can we please play festooned Feeny? Oh.
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What is going on? It's a Boston, it's a highbrow Boston accent. It's Winchester from MASH. Well, I can't sleep. I can't sleep. It's a mash reference, of course. I can't. See, my problem is I always slip into British.
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Yes, I can't. That's it. Fucking hat. That's it. And then just because I feel like between these two clips, we should be able to do it. Yes. If you get this down, you have Feeney's voice that you can do Bill Daniels. Oh, yeah.
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When I was a child in Harvard, it's that same kind of, it's very, it's posh. You're starting to get too posh. It's a little too British. He manages to like, what he does is he drives, lights are on. So another one to give you. It's a worse version. It's a cartoony version. But Tom Hanks in Volunteers with John Candy does the same kind of thing.
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He's a British guy who goes – or a Boston guy who goes to the – and it's that same kind of thing. So it's the upper – yeah. It's a proper American dialect.
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It's a theatrical dialect. Oh, my God. Which we all know. Bonnie has told us. I'm going to figure it out. that Bill completely put this on. Not how he was born, not how he was raised. He was raised in like Brooklyn.
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Yeah, he had a Brooklyn accent and then he was the understudy for a play where they were all Boston Brahmin characters and all the actors were doing this accent and he learned how to do it. Yeah, so it was a complete put on. That's why I feel like one of us, we could learn this. We can put it on, yeah. You just have to commit to it. Yep, we'll study it. You just have to commit to it.
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Just have to commit to it. Park your car. In the garden. Eric parked his car in the garden. Corey. That was a little Harry Potter. No, Corey, Corey, but I'm doing Corey because he ends up kind of softening, softening it. Yeah. You know, I can't, I can't sleep. I don't know. It's so complicated. I'm going to figure it out. But I think between the, I festooned myself.
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It doesn't, it always comes off as British, but that's why we thought he was British.
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I'm at a 10. The whole time. The whole time. I'm at a 10.
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I thought he was only going to be angry for 10 minutes. Why is he still angry?
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It's astounding. He wakes up and he's like, how many miles am I going to walk?
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I mean, yeah, I feel like Corey would be like, what is happening? What is going on? And Topanga would be like, I don't know. I just stood up there and I had this weird feeling and now I'm realizing it and this is what I want. But of course, that's not as funny. Yeah, exactly.
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You don't need the second car scene. They have this whole conversation of I want the doves and everything right there. No doves. In front of that other couple. And you do that and then you get out and then you cut to them coming into the kitchen, coming into the backyard. You don't need any car scene. It just wasn't necessary.
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Do you want me to walk you through my day? Like an average day? I wake up at 7.30 in the morning and I lie in bed for at least 45 minutes looking at my phone, doing Wordle, connections, framed.
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The joke of being like going back to the older couple and being like, hi, is it half price if only one of us says I do?
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Are we half married? It would have been so great. Or lean into the joke that they seem to be implying, which is that Cora got a hotel room. He's ready to have it. And then that's not happening. And that's what he's really upset about at first. And then he's got to realize, yeah, that's actually what I'm, of course, I, you know, if I really think about it, I'm not like, this makes sense.
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Eric was at the Matthews' house in the middle of the night. So he came home.
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Yeah, they're all in that. I thought the same thing, that all the rooms are back there because the... The one to the left. The one comes down. There is no section to the left.
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There's just a wall there. So yeah, all three of them are up there. So it's a big-ass apartment right on the water that they're paying for.
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It could have been exactly how it was written. I honestly don't remember. I do remember in this scene and the next scene. Well, I saw a couple boom mics.
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and i think they're probably not used to having somebody maitland size just to maitland because they cut to a three shot and it's like oh boom mic and then pop out and pop out of frame okay so this is when i started to like pause and take notes because i really really did not understand what the story is here what's going on yeah yeah why can't Eric and Jack be with Rachel?
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Like, I don't... Oh, that I can answer. Because... You got it?
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Where the episode ended up, which is her saying, I want to just be friends and this makes me so happy that I'm here. That's where it needs to start. I don't understand what the conflict is. I know. Is the conflict between Eric and Jack competing for her? Kind of. Which hasn't really started yet.
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It kind of gets in there somewhere in the middle of this episode. But I'm also like, what is the prohibition against dating her? Like, why... Has she said, I only am moving in as long as, like, if she had said, I could, you know, like, because Three's company, the whole thing is, like, he has to pretend to be gay. Right. So, like, that's why they can't actually sleep together.
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Then I get my, well, it depends. I'm going to say this is a non-podcast day. So then I get my dog dressed up and I put on Am I the Asshole? And does your dog refuse to put his shoes on and sit?
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And that's why they all have to, like, whereas this, like, the hijinks are happening for no reason.
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TGI – Episode 602 “Her Answer (Part 2)”
Right. There's nothing wrong with, with, with Eric or Jack saying, I want to date you. I like you. Can you, you going to like, there's no, why are they whispering to each other? Why are they like, like what is happening? They should have set it up to where they both started going after her. And then they realized their friendship was too strong. And they don't want to break up their friendship.
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So they both agree. And then so when Jack does go behind his back to start dating her later, it's a violation.
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There's no set. There's no prohibition set up that is broken by this episode or the storyline. So I kept going back like, what is the problem here? Like, why is there any of this conflict? And it's completely artificial until the end of this episode. And I was like, oh, well, there it is. They establish it now. But I just did not understand these first, like, three scenes.
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I was like, I don't get it. I don't know what they're— No, I don't either. I'm not sure they did at this point, like, what it was actually going to be.
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It's all, it's just, it's very- And she also says that, oh, that's, I could easily fall for either one of you. Like, I kind of wanted to date you, one or both of you. And she says there's sexual tension, right? Yeah. So it's, it doesn't, none of it tracks to anything, frankly. That's the thing that's so weird. And it's not about the friendship with Eric and Jack.
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Is it a generational thing in that, like- Because I guess in the 70s for sure and maybe into the 80s and the early 90s, was having a roommate that was of the opposite gender just a really big deal? Like, in a way that we think of it. I think so, yeah.
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Because, like, I think of, like, kids in college and, you know, or even, like, high school, like, living together, and it was, like, not a big deal. But I wonder if for a previous generation, the very idea of, like, two guys and a girl living in an apartment is, like— Well, it's the same reason why Corey and Topanga couldn't live together in the dorms unless they were married.
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No, she loves it. Your dog wears shoes? Do you have to pack your dog a lunch?
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They were having sex. Yeah. You can't just be two people. And I think that went all the way through the eighties. I think that's what, that's what's informing this in a way that doesn't make sense to us. Like, cause to me it's like, she moves in. Okay. Now you either hit on her or don't, who cares? Like literally there's no problems here. Yes.
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And yet it's acting, the whole storyline is acting as if it's,
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something weird is already happening and it's like what's that what's the weird part if you ever watched Melrose Place one of the I think in the pilot of Melrose Place it's Billy and Allison live together as roommates and have to learn to live like she's like don't forget you always gotta put the toilet seat down it's like that kind of stuff and then they start dating down the line and it's like see if you do throw them in together they're gonna so maybe you're right maybe it was just a thing in the zeitgeist about yeah like men and women live together that means sex
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Right. It's just, it's just, it is a story. It's just an interesting story. It's a, it's something that's happening that's unusual. Whereas like I look at this and I'm like three friends living together in an apartment. Like if somebody wants to sleep with somebody, try it or not.
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And make sure that, okay. No, it's all about me at this point. What about if the dog's done its homework the night before? Do you have to make sure-
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Like there's not a, it's not a situation for a situational comedy. Whereas maybe it was, you know. But on Friends, they didn't even have male and females living together until Chandler and Danica got engaged. The girls had an apartment and the guys had an apartment. So maybe it was a thing.
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I think in real life it probably was already happening, but you know how TV always was like 10 years behind as far as the separate beds and Lucy.
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Maybe that's what it is. It implies there has to be some sort of sex happening. There's some hanky-panky going on in this apartment. Yeah. And it's all, but it all just gets like, I have to take a bath and we're all like, she's gonna bathe.
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Does your dog say, while you're walking out the door, oh wait, I actually have to poop. Even though you're 20 minutes late for school.
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It's super creepy, yeah. It really is super creepy. Getting in those kisses and touches that you can. Just squeeze them in. It's so funny.
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Well, it's just, you know, I don't know if you're aware of this, Danielle, but to take a bath, you've got to be naked.
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Also, isn't bathing every morning a bit extravagant? Isn't that like an hour long in the bathroom? I mean, it's like, this is for me who lives in the shower.
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Every time I open my eyes in the morning, the first thing I hear is a song. Good morning, good morning. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na, good. And I go, ah! And the bed magically moves and makes itself. It is a magical world to live in. I then walk my dog while listening to podcasts or something I'll enjoy for a good 45 minutes to an hour.
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Why can't they just say, because we like you. Yeah. Yeah. I want to see you naked. What is the problem? Why do we have to pretend? There's no... Okay. No, there's no conflict. You're right. There's no conflict at all. No reason to not... No. Just hit on her. You're single. I'm single. I'm single.
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I remember Matt, me just grabbing his leg and Matt having no idea he was going to do that. So he's trying to get out and he's looking back at me like, what the hell are you doing? I think at that point we were just having fun.
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Yeah. You think they'd be like, that's great. We're just teeing up the reveal. Yeah.
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The timing is like, what the hell is happening? He went and had breakfast with the French toast and then came back.
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That's right. I don't really know her. I don't really know her.
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That's the weirdest moment. I know. I rewound it. Like, I couldn't have seen this.
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Well, the joke is there's two, there's sets, there's a setup for it. It's Morgan says, I've always wanted to have a sister. Now I do. Right. And I think, uh, uh, Alan says something, right?
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To Corey. And then Eric says, you gotta try the cheese toast. So the joke is like, it's a three. It's just weird. It was like, what a bizarre, like-
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And then I come back and I do my better me for a half hour, which is my workout. And then I do 45 minutes to an hour of cardio of either running or the elliptical. I then take a nice long shower while reading my book. After you've already walked? Yeah. You've walked, done calisthenics, and then cardio? The walk is mostly for the dog.
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No, that's the payoff. That's the punchline to everybody saying emotional, important things. And then Eric comes in with something so ridiculous. You're waiting for him to say- Corey, I've always, you know, loved Topanga. I'm so happy. And instead it's like, you got to try these cheese balls. It was a strange moment.
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Okay. A Feeny sex joke. We all want to think about Corey and Topanga stooping. Right, Feeny? Stooping.
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Parked his car in my garden and there's stooping. Stooping in the backyard. He parked his car in Topanga's garden. Wiltered ever since Corey in Topanga. I can't do it.
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I was like, why don't you just have examples of things that they actually... Do work together. Well, they are. What if he said, I've never known a couple who can disagree but still make the right decision in the end. Or who can argue like you guys but still manage to love it. There's ways to describe what we've actually seen. Exactly. Who's been through this much infidelity. That has this...
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He cheats and you forgive him by cheating. Again and again. It's amazing. And you, Corey, with women throwing themselves at your feet. I've never seen a couple so self-aware and willing to pontificate endlessly upon the power of their own love like you. So... To the universe. To the universe. He needs to support Corey and Topanga more.
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By noon, so my goal, and I hit it, is by noon every day I have at least 11,000 steps.
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Okay. Now, when you guys were watching this, what were you feeling? Like, what was going on in your mind? Like, watching Betsy's performance in this scene? Very dramatic, obviously. You thought it was dramatic? Yeah. I was watching this and I was going, Betsy's in her head. What's happening? Why is she holding back? Why is she not? I was like, the way it was written is extremely dramatic.
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And I was like, she's reserved. She's holding back. And I was like, really kind of weirded out. I was like, what is going on? And then in the... The next scenes, I thought Betsy was amazing and like fully committed. I was like, why did she not commit to the toast? And then I saw the tag and I was like, oh, because all week she had been being made fun of by Will's performance.
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So she was self-conscious of it in a way. You think? Yes. There's no, like, think about the way that she underplays Why Couldn't You Gone to You? Like the way that it's written is why couldn't you have gone, like just, oh my gosh, like she loses it. She can't, she can't control herself.
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I don't either, but I do remember the conversation. There's something happening in this performance. Cause I was watching this and going, this is, there's this, and then when I saw Will at the end, I was like, Oh, it's just simply that she's seen her performance mirrored by Will's impression or Will's mocking it. And so she's, like counteracting it in some way.
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Like she's self-conscious or she's... Because like what I would have actually done if I was directing was I would never let her see Will's impression until we were shooting.
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But the fact that you can't do that with a run through and everything. So I... I'm sure that she just had spent all week seeing Will do his mocking version of it, which just means that you're getting like it reflected back to you, which means you're self-conscious.
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So I just thought that it was sort of like she was holding back or actually what I thought was happening was that she was underplaying it and downplaying it, which was kind of effective because actually... I liked that.
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TGI – Episode 602 “Her Answer (Part 2)”
And then I get up and I walk the dog again. And then I come back and I do it morning all over.
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If she confronted... Like if she was actually like, why couldn't you, the way that you did in your mocking scene, it would have been like way too, but that's actually the way it's kind of written. I'm listening to what you're saying now, Danielle.
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And I'm like, I feel like if she had just lost control, like if the point was that she's trying to give a speech and she can't do it because she's just flustered and she's worried about her son and she ends up saying something to Topanga that she probably shouldn't have said. Yeah. Like if she had just sort of been like, oh, why couldn't you have just gone to Yale?
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And then like walked out in tears. Like that, you still would have been able to have the sort of moment of confrontation. But as it is, like, Jesus. Yeah. For Amy to say that. Yeah, it was really heavy. It's like, what? Yeah. And then Corey has to come back at her with his heaviness. And I'm just like, what is happening? I know.
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I do another cardio session of either elliptical and then three days a week. I have a personal trainer for weights. Yeah. And then I have dinner. I watch whatever television show I want to watch while maybe sipping an adult beverage. And then I go back to sleep. And then the next day, I do it again. And that's the joy. Or I pot, you know, like on these mornings, I'll push everything.
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Yeah, this is all a bit much for me. It's very dramatic. Real dramatic. Just full Dawson's Creek. I don't want to wait.
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I walked in, I didn't even notice the present before I said, who's the present for? I didn't even take a second to look at it. I was like, hey, now that's some acting. There you go. To be fair, it's completely unmotivated. Did you guys say you're not going to date her? Did you guys make an agreement? What is the problem?
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If they had made an agreement, hey, you know what, just for the sake of, if this episode had begun with them being like, for the sake of keeping things, let's just agree we're not going to make the move on Rachel. Okay. And then secretly they're going behind each other's back trying to make the move. That is conflict. Yeah. Yeah. Yep, you're right.
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Or even set it up where they are going to do that, and we end the last episode with, well, then may the best man win. May the best man win. That's all you got. Now it's on.
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Oh, no, I'd already been reading in the shower for years and years. By the way, I'd like to say that I think I'm a pretty good-looking guy until I stand next to Matt Lawrence. For the record, he's like constantly tan. His clothes look like they're spray painted on him. It's like, man, I just look like a pilot next to that kid.
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You are very handsome. Season seven, you look like a pilot. For now, this is peak Will. I know it is, but it also says the woman who was dating the guy, the good looking guy next to me. Like, no, you were cute too. Whose husband thought Matt Lawrence was the star of the show. Because that's all he heard about.
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The only one that stuck in his memory was Matt Lawrence because he's the most handsome leading man version.
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You can see his abs through his shirt. Oh, there were a bunch of floppy hair kids. Yeah. There was somebody named 4C, I don't know, 4C something. But one of the Lawrences was on that show. Yeah, but Matt Lawrence. Matt Lawrence.
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So I'll do that same day, but starting at noon because we podcast from night. So I literally get out of bed and come into my room and podcast. And then my other days, I do Magical Rewind. I start at 11, so I could do most of my stuff in the morning before Magical Rewind. And that's my day. It's similar to your days, am I right, with your children? It's kind of the same? Yeah.
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Is that really what he says? Yeah. Slime wipe.
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I don't know. It's never been said before nor since. Okay. Stop trying to make slime wipe happen. Stop making it a thing. Yeah.
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Oh, I got to make it fall. Oh, yeah. The Christmas present.
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I'm very proud of my gifts for you two. I'm kind of proud of mine, too, if I'm honest. Although I have to return one for Danielle, but...
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Hmm. And poor David Glazer had to go out and find a red bird.
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Actually, you know, I want to jump in with a memory. This is a great, this is a good memory. I remember talking to Matt Lawrence about Keats. And he said something that has stuck with me and I've used in relation to other, he's like, you know what Keats is like? He said reading Keats is like just hearing a great major chord.
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like just a c major or a g major and i was like that is really astute matt like it's always stuck with me i was like yeah that is what keith sound like feels like it's just perfect music it's just well good poetry and i was like what a you know and of course matt lawrence is a musician like he he made it about music but it was so spot on anyway yeah i mean this was a this was right around this i mean we were probably talking about it because of this i don't know but i do remember talking about
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My favorite button. This is one of the funniest things. This and then the payoff in the next scene.
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I was like, wow, that is some genius. Can we eat this? Oh my God. So funny.
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Those two buttons were like, oh, the best parts of the episode.
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Yeah. There you go. So MASH and Boy Meets World connected, is what I'm saying.
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But then it's all in the same snow globe, which is part of some dream of a child. Isn't that like St. Elsewhere? No, the dream of the child. Oh, God, come on. It was St. Elsewhere, wasn't it?
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Also, sorry, but your mom's still laying your clothes out for you when you're 18. You've got other issues. You really do.
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Newhart. No, Newhart was waking up in the bed. They woke up in the bed next to each other in Newhart, and he was next to his wife from his original show and owning everything. No, the snow globe was, damn it, I can't remember the snow globe. I swear it's St. Elsewhere. Was it St.
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And her answer is, yeah. So this is where she realizes that she's jealous.
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Oh, there's nothing like a good suicide joke. Jesus. Yikes.
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Okay. Then you're right. There you go. Then yes, we're all in. Which I've never seen a single episode of St. Elsewhere. Me neither. I've only seen one or two back in the day. They're great. I mean, that was like the ER back in the day was St. Elsewhere. That was like the show. But there you go.
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Also, unless we all suddenly became the best actors in the world, the suitcase is actually very heavy. I know. I don't know if you noticed that.
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Amazing. The button saves it. But this is where I thought the episode should have started or last episode should have ended. If last episode ended with this, then this episode makes sense. Because then it's like, oh, we have this agreement and yet we're messing it up. Instead, they're just not that.
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But now the monkey bars have moved, or the, it's not even the monkey bars.
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The jungle gym is now a completely different place, right? Because it used to be in the downstate. Well, there was a big, there was a big jungle gym reformation in 98. Of course, everyone knows that.
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I'm sorry, wait, just very, yeah. Have I been doing marriage wrong? Was my wife supposed to take the place of my mom? Yeah, surprise. This is all like subtext becoming text. Like this is all fine subtext. Like I like the idea that like a mom realizes that she, but to like make it text. I know. Like for a woman like Topanga to be referring to her husband to be as a little boy is just weird. Yeah.
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And like, I'm going to like, why would you accept this? Like, I would be like so grossed out if my wife was like, or my wife's father was like, well, now you're the man in her life. So you're going to be daddy doer. I'd be like, Whoa, you got some messed up ideas. Exactly. It's not like, that's not the way this works. Like maybe on some like deep Freudian subtextual level.
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But like, if you're saying that to me, that's weird. I agree. They're saying it. I get that you want your partner to be nurturing, which is maybe you get a nurturing kind of sense from a parent, but to actually, you're the mom now.
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Yeah. If you want to be. I will be. And I'm going to be something else. Something else. Something new.
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Yeah. Yeah. Weird. She's going to call me daddy, but only on my birthday. That's what the line is.
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And then this other woman has to acknowledge that she's becoming mommy. And that's part of her job. And she's excited to do that.
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She loves these little boys. It's actually super weird when you really break it down. The kind of dynamic that's happening here is ridiculous.
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really strange i mean yeah like i said i think it's it's fine as subtext like i i think that like you know there's there is there are aspects of this that are truthful you know but like to say it out loud to each other to formalize it is super weird and like the second you're you're saying these things out loud is when you would have to maybe check yourself and be like yeah it's probably not the right way to be thinking about this
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Okay. I mean, that's the equivalent conversation. Imagine if that's what they should be cutting to. Okay, now you know what it means to be daddy to a woman. But then Corey gives him such a Ben hug.
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no like like the bet like ben would always give that hat like the half kind of it was yeah oh man oh i forgot to point out we when we were in the the kitchen scene during the uh that's the celebration for the wedding yeah did you notice will that you and i were completely trying to bust up in the background of course of course every time it was like hey remember it was like improbable you could hear us trying to be louder than one another to make each other laugh
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And then it keeps cutting. You can see me in the background, like just shit eating grin. Like I am here clearly. And then it comes back in the next scene where you're doing it. Oh yeah. That's why we thought we couldn't work together because we were in the background. Yeah. Just goofing off. Well, I think we were trying to make Ben laugh is what we were trying to do.
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Cause he still had to act in that scene and you and I just had to be like, Hey.
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Okay, if it came from her mom, wouldn't she be saving it for Morgan? Like if it's along the... Well, you also wear it the whole time. It should be like from Alan's mom.
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This came from Alan's mom. Yes. Right. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. No, it's fine.
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Correct. That is the correct answer to that.
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That's absolutely the correct answer, though. It's not real. It wasn't real until he got to do it. Such bull crap. Like, I mean, I actually was kind of I thought this was a sweet moment, like to have the two of them and coming together, especially. But like, yeah, to make it about Corey getting his rightful position by being the asker was just a weird vibe. I was like, what?
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And they tried to do it like that. Yeah, I get it. But it was still a little weird.
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You just had a big fight with his family. Popcorn sounds good. I'm going to run out and get some popcorn. You're getting popcorn? It sounds so good.
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I've got a full-on movie theater popcorn machine.
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Pembroke, we get to see Pembroke. All right, the student union.
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Corey is so weird. Yeah, we're gaslighting poor Corey. Oh my God.
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Why couldn't you have just bought some merch?
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I did not like it. I liked the first one. I did not like the second one. I loved seeing Betsy and Rusty act together and having stuff to do and how good Betsy is when you give her an actual storyline. And so stuff, her actually acting and the two of them together was a wonderful thing to see. I hated Topanga in this episode.
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I absolutely did. And we'll get into it. I hated Topanga. I did not like Topanga at all. You can't hate Topanga. Who is a very different person than our friend who is hosting the show with us named Dinya.
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I don't even see the difference. No, I did not like, yeah. And of course now the Eric stuff is just, everything's a joke. There's no quiet. There's no, it's just. There's no quiet is a good way of saying it. A thousand percent all the time. But you must have been enjoying this. Oh yeah, of course. Like I feel like Will back then was like, cool, this is great.
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It wasn't until later that you probably started getting annoyed with how... Well, now. I mean, then I was fine with it. All the way through season... But you said that at a certain point you were like, hey, I'm just ridiculous. No, I think by season seven, you're sneezing the lottery and stuff like that. It gets so crazy, but...
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And not crazy fun, like plays with squirrels crazy fun, but just like, what the hell is this? But yeah, this is, we're now officially to peak craziness. And because Matt and I were, we're peak Matt and I, like we're having a ton of fun together, but it's just, it's like, it's just rough. And I feel, just feel bad every time Maitland's on screen.
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I feel bad for her because it's like, wow, they've given you nothing and you're like a weird sex object. And yeah, so it was, this was rough. And it really doesn't connect with the A story, does it? No. I was trying to think, there's no like. Nothing. Yeah. Yeah.
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Which, you know, Boy Meets World used to always have that nice integration, you know, even if it took a little, a second for you to figure it out. But like in this case, I really, it just feels like a completely separate show.
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Yeah. I mean, I like the idea that she also is like sort of a Topanga who chose to be single. Like, and that could have been You know, if she gave up a thing to Yale, she's supposed to be a scholarship to Yale. She's supposed to be very smart. Yeah. Which is not playing into the storyline or the character at all anymore. They're not writing to that one iota.
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But that actually could have been great if she's like this independent woman who comes in and is like, I don't want to be a relationship. I'm all about my career or all about my own intellectual life. You know, she could have been the anti-Dapenga in that way or like an alternative to Panga. Yeah. Yeah. They just don't. Oh, there's nothing. It's all one. No. Going to take a bath. Like, OK.
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Oh, she's going to be a different short robe. Different short robe. Oh, come on. So, yeah, it's it's it's not great for me. How about you? Did you like it, Daniel?
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Which is why they had to save it. I mean, I mentioned it when we were talking about the episode. It's like, because if they offered that, you just take it. It's such an obvious answer to both for all the problems. So they have to like not bring it up because if anybody brought it up, everybody would be like, yeah, that's a good idea.
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Well, I bothered you about it basically the entire week you were there. I think, yeah. And I think I remember that, yeah.
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I kept peppering you with questions just the whole week long because it was it was I mean, at the time it was it still is. It holds up. But it was just it's a brilliant, brilliant film. And you say, I mean, it's a perfect example where you say, oh, you're on Boy Meets World for a short amount of time. But it was such a memorable role on Boy Meets World. Same could be said for Fargo.
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I mean, you might be on for a short amount of time, but it's such a memorable role. And it, it's a, it's a character and scenes that probably anybody else might've looked at and been like, you know what? We don't really need this for the story of the film. We can, this lifts right out, but it's so works and it's so important and it's just so great that.
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I'm sorry, in my head, I'm just thinking it's so far you've mentioned the Coen brothers and Spike Lee as the directors you've been working with. And it's just like the list is just building where it's like, oh man, it's like some of the most brilliant people that have ever been in film ever.
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You're right. It's not a job or even a career. It's a lifestyle. It's a whole lifestyle being a comedian. And you're right. Talking to people that do it, they have this thing. It's like, okay, you're a comedian. You're a stand-up. This is what you do. This is your lifestyle. You want to be up at 4 o'clock in the morning.
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through that like as an entertainer i can kind of see like oh yeah i could do like 15 minutes right but then the idea of like having to beat that the next night and beat that the next night and i'm like no i don't care and not sleeping and do anything i'm sorry i'm still trying to recover from you having to go to the laugh factory and your audition is in front of a crowd of people who don't know that you're auditioning you're also now did you watch in living color at the time you auditioned for the show so you already knew what you were getting into then yeah
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Well, it was. I mean, at the time, it was the hippest show on television. I mean, Saturday Night Live had nothing on In Living Color. This was like groundbreaking because I think Keenan Ivory Wayans had come off of I'm Going to Get You, Sucka, which was like amazing. And then it's like, oh, he's doing a television show.
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And then you'd sit there and watch it and go, oh, my God, what's happening in front of me? I mean, it really was completely groundbreaking for TV. Was this set a fun place to be? Was it, was it conducive to comedy and, you know, just trying to get the funniest bits you can do, or was it a little cutthroat?
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You just move from project to project and you just hope. Well, I'm a huge fan. I was telling them before we got on, I'm a huge fan of your wife as well. So not just your lines from Fargo, but I could do her lines from her Seinfeld episodes if you'd like to. It's the way my brain works. So she is hysterical. Please tell her I love her. That's all I have. I will. I sure love that.
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the pinnacle of your- Yeah, let's talk about the highlight of your career. No, really, no, seriously, seriously.
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Oh man, I'm guessing that we didn't start yelling until you started yelling and then we went, okay, it has to be this. It has to be this for the scene. And then probably the three of us started yelling back at you and that was it. Cause it was such a good scene and so funny. One of the things we talk about is that, you know, we're going back watching the entire series again.
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which Ryder had never seen the show. And Daniel and I haven't seen it since it was on. And so we're kind of rediscovering these episodes as we go. And your episode is in contention for the best episode of the entire series.
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Based on your three opinions? Just our stupid opinions. Just the three of us.
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It's also one of the things that we love that we talk about all the time is a great impactful guest star. And you were, it's just somebody who comes in, doesn't have a whole ton to do, but crushes it.
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No, we're starting season six. So we have all of season six and all of season seven left to do.
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Stephen Park Meets World
Poking you on the shoulder. Hey, I have another fire question.
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Maybe it was South Park? It might have been South Park, actually.
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Stephen Park Meets World
No, it might have been South Park. I think it was South Park at the time, yeah. I bet Spike Lee watches it. No, you know what I remember the most about our conversations? By conversations, I mean me peppering you with questions and you very politely and calmly answering them. I remember you saying that you were shocked that people thought your character was funny in Fargo.
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Well, not to put you on the spot, but is there one that you prefer working with over another? Is there a director where every time the name comes up, you're like, oh, I can't wait to work with this person again.
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I'm curious when you were growing up, you said you were the class clown. You were funny. Were there any Asian American entertainers that you looked up to when you were a kid?
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Stephen Park Meets World
No, I was asking about your, if there are any Asian American actors you looked up to when you were a kid.
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I will be at your house later today with several questions right now.
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I just can't get over the scope of the directors that he's worked with. The experiences that he's had, good and bad, in this industry. Just incredible. Again, one of those people I could sit and just listen to talk all day.
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So I just, I'm still the whole James Hong thing. Cause I got, so I grew up a huge James Hong fan and I've gotten to work with him three times and he's,
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the nicest human being you'll ever meet in your life so hearing anybody say anything about him made me viscerally angry it was weird to hear that he had a bad experience uh on the set because you could not meet a nicer human being than james hawk and talented as hell so like hearing that was just i didn't like that at all yeah
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The internal struggle he put himself into to shoot one scene in Fargo. One day, one scene, and he probably beat himself up and got himself to such a state for weeks, if not months beforehand, to go in there to the point where he's sitting across from this, one of the most...
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Well, you've got some human connection left over, which is good. And if this poor man turns up dead, his DNA is all in your car.
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Exactly. You can Amazon that. Toyota's got all that stuff, by the way.
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By the way, you mentioned the movie Hackers. And just as a strange side note, Hackers was the first big movie I ever saw that makes a Boy Meets World reference.
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What's the Boy Meets World reference? One of the characters says to another character, he's like the youngest one of the crew, and he's like, come on, Boy Meets World, let's go. And so he literally calls him Boy Meets World. I don't think I got that. I don't think I knew that back then.
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Stephen Park Meets World
What were the other questions in the sitcom category is what I want to know.
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Stephen Park Meets World
From 2010 to 2016, Melissa McCarthy starred opposite Billy Gardell on this sitcom.
Pod Meets World
Stephen Park Meets World
You've never seen 30 Rock? No. Never seen a single episode. I've never seen a single episode of 30 Rock, a single episode of Community, a single episode of Parks and Rec.
Pod Meets World
Stephen Park Meets World
The Office, I think, was the last new one that I watched. Yeah, that's not a new show. That's an old TV now. Well, I mean, it ended in what, 2010? Something like that? I don't know. Yeah. So yeah. I'm pretty much, yeah. Okay.