Walton Goggins

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I don't know.

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Ep. 5: “Full Moon Party” with Carrie Coon and Parker Posey

And that's how you get people to do what you want. Because most people don't know what they want, and a lot of them, here's a little secret. They just want to be used.

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No. What?

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Ep. 3: “The Meaning of Dreams” with Walton Goggins and Aimee Lou Wood

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Well, even evil things shouldn't be treated like shit. It's only going to make them more evil.

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Ep. 3: “The Meaning of Dreams” with Walton Goggins and Aimee Lou Wood

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Hey, y'all. Hi. Welcome to the Walton Goggins White Lotus Experience.

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Yes, absolutely. So I want to ask you... No, go ahead.

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Extremely antisocial behavior.

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You know what, can I say this right out of the gate? I've been around a long time. I've done a lot of comedies over the course of my career. I've done a lot of dramas over the course of my career. What was the hardest part about this experience for me early on was being, excuse my language, but the fucking downer. in the room. My process is no different. It's evolved.

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I find more pleasure in the experience of telling stories, but showing up to work every day with 18 people and a green room that's full of chairs of 18 people that are in a much different place emotionally than I am at the beginning of the story was very difficult.

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you know i i'm i can be the one cracking jokes i can be the one having a good time more often than not my chair is separate i sit on my own i do my own thing i have played countless figures that move through the world as an island you know but this one was particularly hard because usually that's just with like two or three people

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And this was with 18 people that have comedic chops and drama chops, but I just couldn't be around them. They didn't understand why I was there. This guy is isolated. He has moved through his life isolated. And that wasn't any fun to separate yourself from a group in that way. That was really, really challenging.

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And I guess to speak to what you said, yeah, Rick is a person who has been running from his past for a very long time, who exists in the spaces in between, you know, in society, on the fringes of society. And he is angry and he is bitter about the hand that was dealt him by life. He's incapable of taking any responsibility for himself. And over the course of this experience, coming into it,

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where everyone else's motivations are revealed right out of the gate, you know, pretty much. And with such elegance and such precision, these actors kind of interpreted it from Jason Isaacs getting that information and Patrick and, you know, where he's coming from, the relationship with his dad and this funny kind of very narrow view of the world.

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and privileged view of the world, and all three of the ladies. And here I come in, you know, with Chelsea, played by Amy Lee Wood, and she doesn't even know. So it was more isolating than I anticipated, and it reverberated throughout the whole experience for me.

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Amy and I talked ad nauseum about... the beginning of each day is kind of the worst part for them, right? But by the end of it, they come together and they see each other, regardless of the difference between their ages, that's irrelevant. It means nothing when you have a soulmate that sees you and your potential in a way that you can't see it for yourself.

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Unfortunately in this case, it's really one-sided, you know, and his grief descends into a level of narcissism really because he's occupied with it and can't kind of see past it. And there was one day that we were working and I just don't know how to not stay in it. You know, it's not fun. It's not fun for my wife. It's not fun for me, but we were all on this boat.

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And I just had such anxiety about getting on this boat. Cause there's nowhere for me to hide. I'm a claustrophobic person by nature. And Rick is a claustrophobic person. And I knew there was no place for me to be alone right on this boat before I could take my chair. go out into the little jungle if I wanted to, you know? But on this particular day, it was really tough.

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And so I just camped out on the front of this boat. The view was incredible. And I just filled it full of negative energy so that no one wanted to be around me, right? And there was a moment... Like for real, it's like just like buckets of fucking negativity. Here you go. Like no one will come up here. One person did, John Grice, who's a buddy of mine. And so we were able to talk.

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But at one point, Amy, not being mean or anything, she said, you know, leaned over and just said, you know, you're no fun. I want to be with them. You know, meaning the, you know, Patrick and the other characters, you know. And I was like, thank you, God. Thank you for saying that, you know, because that's exactly how I want you to feel, you know.

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Well, I felt that really early on. The first time I read it, I understood it. It was crystal clear for me. And I felt that in that moment, what he saw were these animals that were vilified. by myths, by experiences. They were misunderstood. They were marginalized as being the worst among us. And he saw the way that the gross homogenized culture wasn't seeing these animals for their true beauty.

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They couldn't see them for what they have to offer. And they are so unbelievably disrespectful, drinking their drinks and eating their chips and manhandling them on a way as if they don't have a soul. And I think he sees himself in them, you know? And I think he sees them as his spirit animal.

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And he sees that the way that he's been treated, whether it's self-inflicted or not, he sees himself in these animals and he just can't take it anymore. And so he goes out and releases all of these snakes in these cages because he himself wants to be released. And it's like, if I can help them, maybe somebody can help me. It's metaphorical, but it's deep. It wasn't without intention.

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It wasn't just the weed. No, it wasn't just the weed. But, you know, a gateway drug to transcendent thinking. Yes.

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I, I, I, you know, I look, I think this person's, you know, floated on the edge of, you know, questioning how long he has on this planet for years. But, but. Rick. Yeah. He's a, he's a dark dude, but you know what? I, I, I hopefully, you know, if I did my job and the way Mike architected it, hopefully you, you will, your empathy will continue. Yeah. And you will fall in love with him and Chelsea.

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I certainly did. Oh, yeah. They're our favorites. They're our favorites.

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I've been to a lot of countries in my life. Me personally, I've traveled a lot of different places and I think that they met in a bar because she's a free spirit. I don't want to speak for Amy, but she was running from her own things, you know, whether she was traveling alone or whether she was with a group of people.

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I think she came up to the bar to order a drink and Rick was sitting there alone. I think that she struck up a conversation because Rick just wouldn't. And five minutes into it, there was a soul connection, you know?