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Appearances
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Bad Rap: Party's Over
I've seen a lot of death, you know. I don't know why. Believe me, I ask myself the same question. Like, you know, why have I been chosen to see all of this, you know, death at such a young age?
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Bad Rap: Party's Over
The culture of silence was colossal. It kept people silent for a really long time. And I would venture to say it still is keeping people silent right now.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She would call and leave me messages saying, I'm going to make you pay for this in every single way. I knew something was wrong, but I didn't know what. The intruder went in the house.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
It seems like Celeste started having this downward spiral. She felt that her days were numbered. So she had to stay in his good graces.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Yeah, so she got a gun and then she started like just like waving it around, you know, like... And then she would, you know, just like, it was like everybody was fair game in the room, and it was myself, Steve, and her.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Tainted love. My whole world just ended right there. And then the betrayals started.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Every day, right? I probably went multiple times a day because she would ask me to do things for her.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
They were able to develop a relationship. A lot of it was based on childhood trauma.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
So the nature of Tracy and Celeste relationship is something that continues to confuse people to this day, because one of them says it was a romantic relationship and the other one says they were just very, very good friends.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Tracy is a trusting, humble. She was completely under the spell of Celeste, deeply in love on the level of a school girl crush.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
They fell in love with each other and had a relationship beginning in the hospital. They continued.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
At one point, Celeste and Tracy sat me down at Tracy's house and Tracy told me they were a couple and Celeste didn't deny it.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She's telling Tracy really awful stories about how terrible Steven is to her and saying she has to get out of this marriage.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
From Tracy's point of view, Celeste wanted Steve dead because of his horrific abuse of her. And they could lead a life together if only they could escape this dominating, cruel man.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
It's heartbreaking to think about Celeste saying that Steve was an abuser, because he was just the opposite.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
My cat just jumped out of my stomach. Out of your stomach? Yeah, they blew out of my stomach.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Are you breathing okay? I've got oxygen on. Okay. They're already on the way.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I was woken up in the middle of the night by Celeste kind of running in my room, saying, there's somebody at the door. There's somebody at the door.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She was kind of manic and like, oh my God, what's wrong with my husband? Don't die. Like, but no tears, very loud and emotional, but didn't really seem real. She was just odd.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
After getting to the hospital and talking to the detectives, they asked me, who do I believe shot my father? And I said, my mom doesn't want me to mention this, but I'm not supposed to say Tracy Talton.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Spending three months in the hospital with him, at one point we got him a puppy, and we snuck it in.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
A beloved young Christian woman fighting a battle undeserved. We thought she was God's gift, but she was a liar.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She was giving away his clothes right off the bat, practically packing up the house and like... Partying, going to the bars every night.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
After Steve died, Celeste started going on another spending spree, and her attorney at the time said, hey, you gotta rein this in. I think you should go back into the mental hospital.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She's in the mental hospital. She's calling me all the time. I was in charge of trying to rein in her finances. A lot of money started going missing.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I was wondering why she was getting thousands and thousands of dollars all the time. And I'm like, what are you doing? And she wouldn't answer it. She kept dodging those questions. And then I was like, forget it. I'm just going to call Donna and find out what's going on.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
And Celeste got very defensive and pretty much told her she needed to back off and stop this line of questioning. And that if she didn't leave her alone, there would be consequences.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Celeste is in the front seat just yelling and screaming about calling her the B word and how she's going to pay for a lot of stuff. And my confusion is I have no idea what Celeste is so mad about, but we're driving back to Austin to go confront Chris, basically. It was awful, awful.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She would call and leave me messages saying, I'm going to make you pay for this in every single way. And in that car ride down, you guys said that she was graphically describing, like, how she was going to make me pay. Oh, 100,000 different ways Kristen was going to pay.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She was kind of, you know, saying psychological, horrible stuff. So I just started taping our conversations when they would get out of hand. There might have been a few times like I tape recorded the conversation to hear back, but there's only one that I really remember actually taping and it changed my life and it changed her life too, this conversation. She had no idea I was recording her.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She's like, well, you've messed things up for me. Blah, blah, blah. Starts getting panicked. She kept saying, Donna has something on me. That's why I'm paying her. I just kept pushing. What does Donna have on you?
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
This story of Celeste Beard is one of the wildest stories we've covered from beginning to end. My name is Melissa.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I was scared for my life. It was super clear to me that she had asked Tracy to kill Steve.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
There's a murder of a wealthy businessman. There's lies, deceit. There's everything.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She says, you know, man, he's going to die soon, but not soon enough. I'm just going to help him along the way I can.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
My name is Mandy. The name of our podcast is Moms and Murder. This story is even more appalling than you could possibly imagine. There are numerous victims in this story. I think people find the Celeste Beard story fascinating because there are so many different elements to it, and there's more twists and turns around every page of this story.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
On October 2nd, 1999, there is a call to 911 from Stephen Beard.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
The reason that Tracy was looked at really heavily is because of the relationship that she was having with Celeste.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Hearing that sealed it for me. Like, any sort of doubt that I ever had that Celeste was involved with our father's murder, I don't have anymore.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
They're realizing if she's willing to kill Tracy, who knows so much, what if they're next?
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Yeah, I think she was trying to get us on the ground for sure. It felt real. It felt so real that we went into a deep hiding.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
And in her eyes, them turning against her is their way of securing their own financial future.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
We had no motive for his money at all. We just wanted to be safe.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
There was some sort of fighting going on regarding Steve Beard's estate.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Celeste started partying and dating, and she was bringing this same guy around, which I thought was weird because it was maybe a month after Steve had died.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I think she was eager to remarry because of the lesbian stigma of Tracy. So the next best thing was to marry a bartender.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
While Celeste is falling in love and starting this new marriage, she has pretty much thrown Tracy by the wayside.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
The thinking is that Tracy is the would-be killer, acting alone. At that point in time, Tracy's not doing anything to dispel that notion.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Once it became clear that Celeste got remarried, it was very crystal clear to Tracy that she was just being used.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She and Celeste were not only friends, but they were lovers, and that Celeste had convinced her that her husband, Steven, was so abusive, and the only way she could get out of this relationship was to have Steven killed.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She was the accomplice to Celeste's plan. Celeste arranged how to get in, what would be unlocked, where he was located. She followed the plan and shot him with the shotgun.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Celeste is actually charged with Stephen Beard's murder. Tracy is going to be really the number one prosecution witness in Celeste's trial.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
There's a lesbian affair. There's a murder of a wealthy businessman. There's lies, deceit, there's everything.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
And somebody who has sex for money, there's a word for that. And money is what this whole case is about.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Did there ever develop any kind of relationship between y'all that was more than just a platonic friendship? Yes, there did. She was flirtatious from the first time that I met her. Whether they believed her or not was just key.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
At some point, you said that y'all began this physical relationship that involved kissing and fondling?
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Celeste marries Craig Bratcher when she was 17 years old, but she was pregnant at the time.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
That's right. Once we were outpatients, we explored that sexual relationship much more fully.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I felt like, I mean, I loved her. And I believed that she loved me. She spent a lot of time letting me know that she did.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She had to pretend to be in a relationship with her to get what she wanted.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She says, oh, man, he's going to die soon, but not soon enough. And I'm just going to help him along wherever I can.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
You know, she also talked about how he treated her and how he mistreated her and treated her so poorly and badly.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
My husband is this evil, terrible person, that he is emotionally abusive, that he's going to drive me to commit suicide. And Tracy believed all those things.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She felt trapped by Celeste. this man who was slowly killing her. She couldn't get out from under him, psychologically or emotionally.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I think that Tracy expected she would spend some time in prison and be reunited with Celeste and live happily ever after.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I walked down to the end of the bed, saw him, and I pulled up and I shot him.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
DeGaran really laid into Tracy and tried to make her as an unreliable witness because of her mental health issues.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
It's something that would not happen in this day and age. But back a few years ago, it's something, unfortunately, that was used against Tracy in court.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
As far as I can be, I was truthful with myself, I would imagine, yes.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
So what do we need? Now we need to have another person's opinion.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
When I got into the courtroom, I was super scared because I was thinking, if she gets out and they say she's innocent, she's definitely going to kill me.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I know that we were going to have to testify, and I knew it wasn't going to be easy.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Did I want to testify against my mom? No, I wanted a mom. I wanted what my kids are getting.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
The tape. The tape. Is this the original microcassette that you recorded this conversation on?
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
If you're a juror sitting there listening to this, you think, what kind of mom talks to her daughter in this way?
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
An innocent person does not need to go out and hire someone to kill all the witnesses.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
And as big as this tape is, the girls are able to give so much more information.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Yes. So she's sitting there hearing all this testimony from her daughters. She's their mother, and she's not giving them anything.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I just kept my eyes either straight. I did not look at her the entire trial.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
He didn't die originally when he was shot. I think she took every opportunity she could to speed it along.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
So Dick DeGaran is in court saying, none of this is true. These girls want money. They're greedy.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
DeGaran was kind of ruthless. It was very terrifying to face cross-examination.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I wouldn't know how to doctor any sort of tape, but no, I'm pretty sure they proved in court that it wasn't doctored.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
What the defense is trying to say, that I hired somebody to kill Tracy, is out of context. It's offensive, really. It's just highly offensive, but good on him for trying.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I thought for sure she was going to take the stand. Seems like if you're innocent, I would take the stand.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
The defense told us every day for weeks that she was going to testify, and that surprised us that she chose not to.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She had these long pauses between her answers. She just seemed very well coached.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Growing up with Celeste was very unstable. There were times where we would get dropped off in foster home and not even understand what had happened.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
The defendant is guilty of capital murder based on the evidence.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
The defendant looked forward to Steve's death. She would talk about how she would spend his money, the things she would do, the places that she would go.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I believe that you folks will do what's right. You will tell her that she is not above the law and that she is guilty.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She had her moments where she was nice, you know, but you don't know what's going to happen. I was always in fight or flight mode. She was not a homemaker. She was not a baker or a cooker or a cleaner. She was a shopper.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I was not surprised at all with the guilty verdict because of the credibility of Tracy Tarleton.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I've lost a lot of friends, but the fact that I have lost so many friends makes the friends that have stuck by me all that much more important. To shoot somebody for a charlatan, I don't think it says much about me.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I stayed in Austin. I made my own family here with all my close friends.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
We're not really allowed to talk about it, but there was a split between his kids and us.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
That's a hard pillow swallow. It's hard to imagine that what she's saying is even true and to meet her grandkids. I haven't even told them about my past because they're kids and I don't want to ruin their childhood.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
I mean, honestly, I don't know what she would say that would change my opinion on wanting to be in the same room with her. So that's just kind of hard to wrap my brain around.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Within two weeks, Stephen asked Celeste out on their first date and she said yes.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
So she got a gun and then she started like just like waving it around, you know, like. And then she would, you know, just like it was like everybody was fair game in the room.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
One of his first jobs was at Neiman Marcus, where he eventually meets his wife, Elise. She was a model for Neiman's.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
We had a ranch, and he loved on the weekends to go and hang out and ride horses and go fishing.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
He really worked hard, started at the bottom, was able to develop a very successful advertising business.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
There may have been these red flags, but Stephen wasn't looking at them because of the way that she made him feel.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
At the point that Celeste and Stephen meet, she has her twin daughters, Jennifer and Christina. Jennifer is living back in Washington with their dad, Craig, and Christina is living with Celeste.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Well, so that's because of Celeste. I guess he wanted to help her become a family. She told us to ask him to adopt us. We said, hey, we don't have a dad. We would love for you to be our dad.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
It happened so quick too. His natural kids were growing out of the house and here's some teenage kids now and he got to do his Wednesday hamburgers that he used to do with his old kids and pool parties and trips.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Whenever we'd leave, he'd say, go have F-U-N. Yeah. He never said fun, just go have F-U-N.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She started like, just like waving it around, you know, like everybody was fair game.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
Oh, more, much more. She would get real manic when she was spending a lot of money. She'd take Christina and I in the middle of the night to shop because she needed to go buy towels.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
They took a lot of very nice trips, always first class. Celeste had spent the entire $500,000 that was allotted in their prenuptial agreement.
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True Crime Vault: Tainted Love
She had plenty of jewelry of her own. Stephen threatens to divorce her. And when this happens, she says, I'm going to take my own life. And so it starts to kind of snowball from there. Celeste knows that after spending this $500,000, if this marriage ends in divorce, it's over for her. She has nothing.
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What Happened to Holly Bobo?: A Scream on Swan Johnson Road
You know, anytime you come up with an area that you thought something might be in, there would be volunteers show up by the hundreds to go search.
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What Happened to Holly Bobo?: A Scream on Swan Johnson Road
Everybody was a suspect at the time. We did not know.
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What Happened to Holly Bobo?: A Scream on Swan Johnson Road
I've always spoken up. Nobody's ever asked me.
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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother
Er ist der letzte Beobachter. Evito trifft John Juca in Rikers Island. Und laut Evito, elaboriert John Juca, wie er Mark Fischer getötet hat.
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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother
Dieser Abkommen wurde nie erklärt. Nikolosi's Dealings with Giannavito reflect the worst in how a prosecutor can violate the rules.
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True Crime Vault: Undercover Mother
Es gab zwei Anwesende, die sagten, dass John Jukka Rousseau auf die Tötung gebracht hat.
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Who Is The Delphi Killer?
This young lady's a hero, there's no doubt. To have enough presence of mind to activate the video system on her cell phone to record what we believe is criminal behavior that is about to occur.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
And made no attempt to steer, made no attempt to brake. And, you know, that's not somebody that is awake and alert trying to keep from having a wreck.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
I started an organization called the Elite Lady Bull Riders. To give women a space in bull riding. Thursdays at 10. Do you want to be a pro rider? That's what you're working towards. It's risky, but I can't stop.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Everything is riding. The finals are coming. On their next. Everyone's got a shot. Eight seconds. Let's do this. Not her first rodeo. Thursdays at 10 on Freeform.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Joe wasn't afraid to share anything with me. He liked to talk about his goings-on. Except one case, and Joe didn't want to talk about it, and that was Karen Silkwood.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
I don't know why Joe did that. I really don't, except he thought maybe there was some underlying issues, dangers. I don't know. I don't know why. He would share everything else, but.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
I don't want any trouble on my job, and I don't want any trouble with my car or anything else.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Well, what are you trying to prove? What are you and your attorneys trying to prove?
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
And I thought somebody was throwing rocks at the house. But it sounded a little different. And I said, did you hear that? He said, yeah. Did you hear that? Yeah. He said, well, that's gunfire. And sure enough, he walked outside and you could see the smoke in the air. They had shot several holes in our house, whoever they were.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
He said... We are not telling anyone where we are, no address, no phone number. Your mother cannot know. And my mother and I talked every day, and I couldn't tell anybody.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Breathe in. Breathe out. Why are you resisting? Is it too late to get a refund?
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
This could become very dangerous. And my life could possibly be in danger. if we got deeply involved in this.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
I thought, is this guy nuts, or does he know what he's talking about, or... I'm in awe.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Some police officers who'd been working off-duty for Kerr-McGee... He advised that they had run her off the road and killed her, and they had done it in an Oklahoma City police car. It didn't state if it was a marked unit or detective car or what, but it was an Oklahoma City car. I've thought about this for quite a while. So today is September the 15th, 1992.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Tuesday, September the 15th, in 92, I have entered here, met with... And here he lists the source's name.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
And they had been hired by someone at Kerr-McGee to scare Karen Silkwood. They were allegedly following her when she left this restaurant in Guthrie. They had been drinking, I was told, and they were supposed to scare her, but they ran up behind her and pushed her a little bit. Lo and behold, she lost control and went off in the ditch, and it killed her.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
So then I kind of got to asking around some Oklahoma City officers, just in casual, and they'd say, you didn't know that? Kind of common knowledge around the police department.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
And they are supposed to meet me tomorrow for dinner to give me the whole complete story. I don't know who he is. I'm supposed to know tomorrow.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
I started carrying a gun almost everywhere I went. Very rarely did I go anywhere without a gun, and I'd never done that before.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Today is Wednesday, October 7, 1992. I had dinner with...
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
He said, well, that's a federal deal. We don't know anything about it. That's a federal deal. They're doing it all. You need to call the FBI.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
Later that month, Larry heard back from the FBI agent. The agent said he'd sent the information Larry had shared up the chain and that, in his opinion, it did warrant an investigation.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
I'm getting concerned that he may very well know about this already. I'm becoming increasingly concerned about security at the FBI office and that, as I was told in the beginning, I might be in danger. Again, at this point, that's all the information I have.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
On the 19th of April, he met with me at my office, and I gave him all of the information I've had. He was very interested.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
And when you get shuffled around and I finally, I just realized this old highway patrol lieutenant out here, you're not going to get anywhere. You might as well just forget it. And that's pretty much, I never forgot it.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
I just think the poor girl got a raw deal. She got killed. She got murdered. And these guys got away with it. And they're all gone now, I guess. So you can't put them in jail. but we can vindicate her. And I just think that's important. I guess maybe just the way I am, I just think that's important. She's got children that have grown up without their mother. She had no life.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
She was born in 1946, same year I was born. I've just turned 78, she'll be 78 sometime. Why should these guys have gone on and lived their life? I don't know. It's just not right.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 4: The Investigators
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Death in the Dorms Season 2: Episode 3: Marlin Barnes
Everybody's scared. Nobody knows how it happened, why it happened.
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Death in the Dorms Season 2: Episode 3: Marlin Barnes
Everybody's scared. Nobody knows how it happened, why it happened.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
And she showed up down here, and she was shaking like a leaf, and she was hysterical. She was incoherent, and she kept saying over and over again that I'm going to die.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
cells get pretty stirred up and when you get the cells riled up, they don't know how they should act. They don't know that they're along really anymore and they sort of start acting on their own.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
What is the worst that happens? I go broke. I can't pay my loans. I start an OnlyFans, but only you guys subscribe.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
I started an organization called the Elite Lady Bull Riders. To give women a space in bull riding. Thursdays at 10. Do you want to be a pro rider? That's what you're working towards. It's risky, but I can't stop.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
Are you on the side of nuclear-free, or are you on the side of Kermadee? Which side are
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
It was the biggest case, of course, even now 45 years later, that I've ever worked on.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
Not only was it David and Goliath in terms of the disproportionate resources and, you know, the people that there were, but we were a ragtag bunch. Our paralegals, one of whom had been a Haight-Ashbury street person. You know, we had two priests who were our investigators and, you know, office organizers.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
Absolutely. You know, you have people that hated unions and was resentful.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
that they were responsible for her contamination and that they ran the plant in a negligent or grossly negligent way.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
So, you know, it artfully linked the scientific stuff with something that, you know, you can kind of emotionally connect with as well.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
Their strategy was to make her an other. She is not like you because she lived with a lesbian. She's not like you because she smokes pot. She's not like you because she didn't stay in her place and was talking back to and being insubordinate to her bosses. It was really don't believe her, don't rule for her because your lifestyle and your background are different from hers.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
You know, it was like a Hollywood movie director had choreographed each detail. There was a hush in the courtroom where everybody was waiting for the jury. The thunderclaps were kind of punctuating as the jury read off the answers to the questions.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
Plutonium-239 is at least 20,000 times more toxic than cobra venom. 20,000 times more toxic than potassium cyanide, which is the gas used in gas chambers, 1,000 times more toxic than heroin, and the thing that it causes is principally cancers.
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'Radioactive' - Ep. 3: Contaminated
Rough. This Memorial Day, the summer starts with Stitch. Adorable little psychopath. Disney's Lilo and Stitch. Rated PG. Parental guidance suggested. Now playing only in theaters.
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True Crime Vault: New DNA Analysis in a Murder
She told me it was that she had killed her parents.
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Road Map to Murder
There were no bodies. There was no anything. So we didn't know what happened. But of course, your mind goes to, did the worst happen? Are Bart and Krista still alive?
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Road Map to Murder
The police actually came and downloaded everything they have. So they were here, I think till like 9 o'clock last night and downloaded all the video she's got.
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Road Map to Murder
The neighbor says he had a gut feeling that he should record the conversation, which he would later turn over to police.
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Road Map to Murder
Chandler sees this uptick in police activity outside his house, so he calls Detective Shunk to find out what's happening. That phone call was recorded.
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Road Map to Murder
a farmer in cottage grove a town about 20 miles away from the halderson home in windsor reports a suspicious sighting earlier in the week that's when they find something that really changes this entire investigation
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Road Map to Murder
There, amidst the matted grass, investigators discover what appears to be the torso of an unidentified male body.
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Road Map to Murder
Talking to Kat Melander, investigators find out that Chandler visited the farm on the 4th of July with her. But the next day, he returns to the farm alone, unannounced.
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Road Map to Murder
Except he wasn't using the pool. Kat's mom and her fiance say they saw his car parked on the property, but no sign of Chandler until... When they're in the pool, they look up and they see Chandler now walking.
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Road Map to Murder
We used to have a horseshoe league. Bart and Krista were on a horseshoe team. We competed against them two, three times a year. And just being neighbors, they were just people that ran into all the time. Absolutely salt of the earth people were Bart and Krista. Their house always looked good. It was well manicured. It was well mowed. It was always taken care of.
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Road Map to Murder
Now remember, detectives in that interview room haven't told Chandler about any of these discoveries they've made. But that's about to change.
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Road Map to Murder
So far, nothing Chandler's told police has panned out. He told them and everyone else his parents went up to the cabin for the 4th of July weekend with some other couple. And nobody knows who they are. A search of the cabin clearly showed no one recently had been there.
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Road Map to Murder
When I found out that Bart was dead, It was anger, it was, wow, this is real life. And there was just this big void of Bart being gone and no idea where Krista was.
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Road Map to Murder
There were a few people that I communicated with, well, maybe Krista's involved.
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Road Map to Murder
Because I knew Krista and I knew her personality, I knew Krista was not involved.
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Road Map to Murder
Authorities are holding out hope, too, and ask the public for help to somehow find Krista alive.
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Road Map to Murder
Perhaps the most troubling question authorities are left with, why? This was a loving family. Why would Chandler, or anyone else for that matter, want either of the Haldersons dead? It didn't seem to add up.
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Road Map to Murder
Facing at least one murder charge, Chandler is lawyered up and not talking. But someone very close to him is.
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Road Map to Murder
And there was just this big void of Bart being gone and no idea where Krista was. I'm hoping she's alive.
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Road Map to Murder
Is there any way you guys can change the narrative to indicate that she's not, the girlfriend's not a suspect and that she's not somehow somebody you suspect? How early did you clear Captain Melander?
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Road Map to Murder
Investigators are familiar with the home as they'd been there just a few days earlier.
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Road Map to Murder
As the investigators entered the den on that initial search, they noticed the fireplace looked not quite right.
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Road Map to Murder
Chandler's saying there's broken glass and there was a lot of blood, but it's not related at all to this case. It was my dog's.
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Road Map to Murder
Those questions, prosecutors promise, are about to be answered. The lawyers will now make opening statements.
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Road Map to Murder
No, I do. It's just my mom knows the whole thing. A new comedy about 20-somethings achieving zero anythings.
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Road Map to Murder
Nicole Kidman returns for the Hulu original Nine Perfect Strangers Season 2.
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Road Map to Murder
The all-new season of Nine Perfect Strangers is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu and Disney+. New episodes Wednesdays.
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Road Map to Murder
I was just angered. I was shocked. I felt sick to my stomach. I mean, these are honest-to-goodness friends.
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Road Map to Murder
It was just incomprehensible. Why would anybody do that? Did he not like them? Was there something else that we didn't know that was going on? I just personally could not think of a reason why this wonderful kid did something so dastardly.
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Road Map to Murder
Juries always want to understand why someone would commit a murder. Why would you kill your parents? And if prosecutors don't explain it, it's kind of a hole in their case.
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Road Map to Murder
The defense should be demonstrating why they say there's reasonable doubt in this case, why maybe he didn't do it.
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Road Map to Murder
The defense comes out at the beginning, opening statements, and admits their client is a liar. Chandler Halderson is a liar. But they say that doesn't make him a killer.
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Road Map to Murder
I know once he was in that neck brace, his job situation with SpaceX was kind of pushed on the back burner.
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Road Map to Murder
And that's actually an excellent strategy because you want to let the jury know from the beginning all of the bad facts about your case.
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Road Map to Murder
Hello, it's Robin Roberts here. Hey guys, it's George Stephanopoulos here. Hey everybody, it's Michael Strahan here. Wake up with Good Morning America.
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Road Map to Murder
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Road Map to Murder
Otsuka Okotsuka, Father, streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus June 13th.
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Road Map to Murder
The jury listens as Omar Jobe then tries to confirm what classes Chandler is taking.
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Road Map to Murder
Although Krista doted on her sons in their time of need, she rarely missed a day of work. So on Friday morning, July 2nd, when she fails to show up at her job, coworkers are concerned.
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Road Map to Murder
According to prosecutors, the phone call was a ruse by Bart to see if his son was actually enrolled in college. And it turns out he wasn't. He failed out.
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Road Map to Murder
The defense always has to balance between aggressively cross-examining witnesses and alienating the jury.
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Road Map to Murder
It's the last text message from Bart and the last day Bart and Krista are seen alive.
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Road Map to Murder
As if the alleged motive wasn't already shocking enough, there was Chandler's whole history of a debilitating head injury, which prosecutors say was also untrue.
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Road Map to Murder
The defense pushes back on the prosecution's claims, cross-examining the ER doctor about Chandler's injury.
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Road Map to Murder
And that tarp, prosecutors say, is part of what Chandler used to dispose of his parents' remains.
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Road Map to Murder
Kids lie to their parents all the time. Motive does not mean intent. Do you know if it was an awful accident? Do you know if it was intentional? Do you know if there was someone else involved? You don't. And that's a problem.
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Road Map to Murder
Breaking news. In just about a little over two hours, a jury has reached a verdict in the Chandler Halderson case.
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Road Map to Murder
We, the jury, find the defendant Chandler M. Halderson guilty of first degree intentional homicide.
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Road Map to Murder
The Haldersons and I were friends for about 25, 26 years. And there was never a crossword. They were just good people. If there were more Bart and Christas in the world, it would be a better world.
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Road Map to Murder
A wonderful mom being remembered by her family right here tonight. And this is a murder that still leaves so many unanswered questions. In April of 2023, two of Chandler's convictions for hiding his parents' remains were vacated.
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Road Map to Murder
Hey guys, it's George Stephanopoulos here. Hey everybody, it's Michael Strahan here. Wake up with Good Morning America.
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Road Map to Murder
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Road Map to Murder
All of a sudden, my wife comes in the bedroom. She says, the Haldersons are gone. They're missing. My mind went to the bad spot, like, that is not right. It was just kind of disturbing for somebody that I know that well to suddenly be gone. What's going through your mind?
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Road Map to Murder
Bart and Krista just loved the 4th of July. You could always catch them at the parade. It was probably their favorite holiday.
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Road Map to Murder
The text to her son Chandler says they arrived at the family cabin three hours north. It read, made it safely. Love you lots.
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Fatal Disguise
I heard a couple of loud pops and looked up and... looked over and saw right in front of me, shooting Rusty. Shot him several times. I mean, it was pretty much point blank range.
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Fatal Disguise
It was almost surreal, the experience. There was no chaos or running or yelling or anything. He just walked back to his van. It didn't look like what I would think a murder would be.
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Fatal Disguise
If you're laying on your stomach, OK, with your head towards me, OK, from where you are there, the shooter would have been right here.
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Fatal Disguise
He didn't look conscious to me. He looked like he was struggling and trying to, you know, there was some movement, but I knew that it wasn't good.
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Fatal Disguise
He was white, possibly Hispanic. I would say he's about 5'9", 5'10". He's got a baseball cap on. It's a silver caravan, almost looks like a Dodge. He had a hat on. It looked like he had a pierce and a silver caliber gun.
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Fatal Disguise
To me, honestly, it looked like it was professional. It was just the calmness of it. It didn't seem like it was a crime of passion. It was just very cold and calculated.
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Fatal Disguise
You will come to the right verdict, and that is that Hemi Newman is not guilty by reason of insanity.
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Fatal Disguise
It's a silver caravan, almost looks like a Dodge. He had a hat on. It looked like he had a beard. and a silver caliber gun.
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The Code Breakers
It was horrible. They were never the same. But we decided as a family after that happened that we were going to not let what happened kill us too, and that we were going to live to honor her, and that's what we always did after that.
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The Code Breakers
Four years later, I had a daughter, and her name is Catherine. Catherine Ann. After my sister died, But she never got to know her. My oldest was nine months old, and she was her godmother, and she never got to know her either.
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The After Show: Unlucky Numbers
I looked up at him, and I looked at the ticket again, and I looked up at him. I said, you've won $30 million. He said, OK. I just wasn't sure. I needed somebody I could trust to tell me that. And I was like, do not show this to anybody else. You go to Tallahassee and cash this in immediately.
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The After Show: Unlucky Numbers
When Abraham won the lottery, all of Lakeland and Polk County won the lottery. People did not hesitate to come to Abraham and say, you know, I need money for my mortgage. They've got to foreclose my house. They're going to repossess my car. I've got to bury my mother. I mean, everything you can think of that someone needed.
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The After Show: Unlucky Numbers
Now you're dealing with all kind of people you want to look out for and people you don't want to look out for, but everybody's there saying, give me, let me, let me have. So it was just overwhelming for him.
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The After Show: Unlucky Numbers
There were days that random women with cars full of kids would pull up and say, oh, the Lord led me to you. And I would be like, no, that would be Google Maps, honey.
Blood Vines
Hangover: 7
He fought because he was innocent. And the only one, the only one that fought it all the way. And the other ones, you know, they, Bavaro still got in trouble. I think, what, a couple of years later.
Blood Vines
Hangover: 7
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that should tell everyone. That should tell you right there who the main character of all this mess was.
Blood Vines
Hangover: 7
And, you know, they're the ones who were sneaky enough to be able to get away with it with the lightest amount of time.
Blood Vines
Hangover: 7
I, for one, only visited him once. I couldn't see him. I couldn't see him there. It was too hard. So I just focused on my kids.
Blood Vines
Hangover: 7
And when he came home, they were teenagers. Two graduated high school. Like he had to rebuild his life to be part of the family again. And he did. You know, he finally caught up. But then after that, he got sick.
Blood Vines
Hangover: 7
That was the most hard and so devastating because... We had lost five years of our lives, and then we had to rebuild. And then once we did, it was all taken away.
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Hangover: 7
That was the only night that all of us had a good sleep because they had him in jail. The next day he got out.
Dateline Originals
The Man in the Black Mask - Ep. 1: Where's Johnny?
And then as I looked up, the attacker almost actually ran into me.
Dateline Originals
The Man in the Black Mask - Ep. 1: Where's Johnny?
Because the way that he fell... To me, looks staged.
Dateline Originals
The Man in the Black Mask - Ep. 1: Where's Johnny?
Yeah, we thought it was a setup for us.
Dateline Originals
The Man in the Black Mask - Ep. 1: Where's Johnny?
And then I turn around finally, and I see this guy, and he's wearing this mask. And he's hitting me all over with this sun gun.
Dateline Originals
The Man in the Black Mask - Ep. 1: Where's Johnny?
And then they sniffed around and that was that. Didn't find anything? Didn't find anything.
Dateline Originals
The Man in the Black Mask - Ep. 1: Where's Johnny?
And to me, that didn't look real. It looked like it was staged. And what was he doing or saying or how was he behaving? He looked at me and said, I'm being robbed. Can you help me?
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Diddy discovers this and gets extremely mad and violent towards her. And... The way the government tells it is he breaks into Cuddy's house while Cuddy is not there. And then maybe a week and a half later, two weeks later, Cuddy's car is firebombed.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Yes, a sort of homemade Molotov cocktail in what was one of the few lighthearted moments of the trial. The bottle used for it was an OE40 bottle. And the wick used for it was some kind of designer scarf. I've heard Hermes scarf, but I cannot confirm or deny that. I haven't looked that closely at the photos.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
So he came home and he saw that some Christmas presents were that he had wrapped had been opened and that his dog, who normally has free reign of the house, had been locked in the bathroom.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Yes, went into Cudi's house uninvited. They had a phone conversation while Diddy was there. Cudi drove home. What did they, what was that conversation? Just like, you're in my house. Yes, I am. Get here and, you know, we're getting some tough, tough talk basically back and forth. And Cuddy drove home fully intending to fight Diddy.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
At some point along the line, in his testimony, wondered if Diddy was armed, thought the better of it, ended up calling the police. By the time they got there, Diddy was gone. And then, you know, I think that happened on December 22nd of 2011. He spends the holidays with Cassie. They break up. And then January 9th of the following year, I believe, is when the car bombing happens.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
We can call her Mia. Okay, Mia. That's the pseudonym she's using, yeah.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
So Mia is a woman who started out as J.D. 's assistant and then by the end was working also with a sort of nascent side of his business called Revolt Films. She was forced to work basically around the clock.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
And in fact, she talked about one time being on the clock for five days straight and not literally not allowed to sleep to the point where she was basically hysterically crying and hallucinating.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
And the job seemed so it just could be anything. She there was an email. I'm just going to for a second read an excerpt of an email she wrote back in 2011 about the job of being an assistant. And she says he can ask you to do 17,000 things at one time that range from cracking his knuckles to writing his next movie to doing his taxes.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
He can also just have you standing next to him for 22 hours and not ask you one thing.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
this very wealthy powerful man and now of course we're seeing the other side of it yes and and you know one of the interesting things and and you know natalie i'd be curious to hear your take on this as a former business reporter yourself it seems that at least this centimillionaire ceo
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
was in this extreme bubble where every room he went to, someone had already been there to set it up exactly like he likes, turn his toothpaste tubes facing the right way in the bathroom, you know, make sure he had the right brand of ketchup and applesauce at the ready for every meal.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
He wakes up and someone has already nudged his private chef to start preparing him breakfast, like just this very sort of It's just a coddled life. People at his beck and call. Yeah, very coddled life. So maybe we can talk later about how that matches up to CEOs maybe you've experienced in your past career.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Yes. And in fact, there was a story involving water and one of the assistants actually who said, you know, did he send me out to buy a one gallon sort of PCR free? Is that the right terminology? I don't know. Water bottle, you know, some like non dangerous plastic water bottle, basically like a one gallon water bottle at Whole Foods. And he said, I get to Whole Foods regularly. They don't have it.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
They have half gallon bottles. So I bought two half gallon bottles. I had this whole plan. He's drinking one. I'll refill the other. He'll never be without water. It'll be great. And he screamed in my face and threatened my job. So, sorry, to get back to Mia, there's more serious stuff involving her.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
It's not just 20-hour days. It's a bunch of alleged assaults. She said one time Diddy slammed her arm in a door. She was around four times, including the bed frame incident with Cassie that we talked about. Right. There were also, she said, a number of alleged sexual assaults. In fact, so many that she can't even recall them all and, you know, could recall several in specificity.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
And then after that, it was largely flashes attached to particular locations. So that was... Hearing her recount that was obviously a very... You could hear, you know, a pin drop in the courtroom, right? Very...
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
you know quiet intense she her her whole affect which the defense later said not in front of the jury but said that they thought it was an act was very hesitant and she said that she has complex ptsd and can't work as a result of you know her whole time with diddy not specifically the sexual assault although i'm sure that is part of it what's diddy's affect been through this whole thing
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
I would say, you know, 80 percent of the time he is very engaged writing notes to his lawyers, little post-it notes and passing it to them during direct or sometimes even during cross when his lawyers are actively questioning, he'll pass notes. But usually when he's listening to someone testify and being questioned by the government.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
You know, I don't want to say what he's thinking, but it seems to be in response to recounting of particular events, almost like, well, ask them about this or, you know, what happened? You know, I remember it this way. Again, I don't know, but it seems to be in response to recounting of individual events that he will then write a quick post-it note and pass it to whomever.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
He will occasionally look pleased at his lawyer's cross-examination. Sometimes he's been... quiet during sort of the most extreme moments. He's been very quiet and somber. It's, again, I don't know what's in his mind. I don't know if he's putting his head in his hands. I think he did during one time when Mia was recounting the alleged sexual assaults. And who's to say why?
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Is it because he remembers the encounters differently or he's outrage that she's make you know lying about something so big or he's a you know who who knows what it what it could be but there are a few moments in particular when he seems to be very much in the moment and reacting rather than trying to plan and strategize
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Sure. That obviously is something the defense is leaning into, right? Particularly with Mia, a good chunk of the first half of her cross-examination was just Brian Steele showing Instagram posts she had done of all the good times she had with Diddy and how much he was a mentor to her and how much he inspired her to follow her dreams and all this kind of stuff.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
So there's the why did you stick around argument and then there's this related idea of but you said all this great stuff about him, right? I think those two are kind of hand in hand that the defense is using. And I think that the answers vary somewhat witness to witness, but in a lot of cases, it seems his world was so all encompassing, right?
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
That the government is trying to help paint a picture of if you work for him, You're around the same handful of people 20 hours a day. They're your whole world. No one is acting like this is weird or bad or there's anything abnormal. Your whole job is to protect Sean Combs and make his life easier. And also he is being portrayed as someone who blackmails people, right?
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Not just Cassie with the release of sex tapes, but one of his former assistants is, testified that she wanted to work in the music business after her time with him, and that he blacklisted her. She used the word blacklisted, right? That, in fact, he enlisted...
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
prominent music business figures to warn her hey don't sue him for wrongful termination right bringing in extremely high level music business people to uh uh meet with her under false pretenses ostensibly for a job and to say look you better leave diddy alone this could be bad for you
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Capricorn Clark, again, another former assistant who testified, who was around Diddy for a number of years, on and off for, I believe it might've even been like 14 years on and off with some breaks here and there. She's also very close with Cassie. And she talked about
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
A, being kidnapped around the Kid Cudi incident, basically that Diddy, you know, in her telling Diddy forced her into a car and to drive to Kid Cudi's house and wait in the car while he breaks into Cudi's house. Right? Because she is the one who knew about Cassie's relationship with Cuddy and didn't tell him.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Exactly. Exactly. Yes. That Diddy found out about it via, it was like a text or an email on Capricorn's phone or something. He blamed her for not telling him about this relationship. Mm-hmm. Right. And Capricorn does admit to it.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
She said, I'm the one who told Cassie to buy a burner phone and you better go hiking with Kid Cudi here, this place in Hollywood instead of this place, because place one is too public and people are going to see you. And as punishment, she says, did he kidnap her and force her to take part in this burglary? Showed up at her house armed and sort of ranting and disheveled.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
The other alleged kidnapping was some jewelry went missing. And she says one of Diddy's bodyguards led her into an office building, an abandoned office building in Manhattan. They locked the door from the outside and she was forced to take eight hours of lie detector tests with threats that like, you better pass this or you'll end up in the East River.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
She'd stolen it. Yeah. And then that happened five days in a row. She gets taken to the spot, locked in, workday's worth of lie detector tests, let go. You're taken back the next morning that that happened for five days before it was dropped.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Like what? That's crazy. Yeah. And I think this will come up in the protecting his reputation piece. Right. Did he use his businesses for the purpose of, among other things, to commit crimes in the service of protecting his reputation? Right. I'm not the chump who gets my jewelry stolen.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
We don't have the defense witness list yet. In fact, we only get the prosecution's witnesses at the end of the day, the day before. Right. Court ends usually around three, sometimes closer to four. But like, you know, several minutes before ending, they will say, oh, and tomorrow the witnesses are going to be X, Y and Z. That said, I would be extremely surprised if Sean Combs takes the stand.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
It is not usual for defendants to testify in big cases. They have a lot to lose. The burden of proof is on the government, right? It's not on them. They don't have to prove that he didn't do something beyond a reasonable doubt. The government has to prove that he did do something beyond a reasonable doubt.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
And with, by his own admission, decades of bad actions, I don't think they want to risk him being under the penalty of perjury, having to talk about, you know, whatever other things in his past they may bring up, stuff we know about or stuff we don't.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Sure. The biggest thing so far has been Cassie took up most of the first week of the trial, talking about being in this relationship with Diddy for almost 11 years, during which she says she was coerced Hundreds of times into participating in sexual encounters involving escorts.
Infamous
Inside The Diddy Trial
Yes, he's pled not guilty to all of this stuff. Yep. And again, his team's defense thus far has been, yes, he did a lot of awful things, but those awful things don't correspond with the crimes he's being charged with in this case.
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Inside The Diddy Trial
Not the first hip hop Rico case, actually. Yeah, there you go. So there have been ones that I've seen in part, Hackstone, Jam Master Jay, R. Kelly, things like that. But the one that I saw from sort of tip to tail, as it were, was the Tekashi 69 case. case.
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That was obviously different for a number of reasons. One being that he was not the one on trial, right? He was a cooperating witness in that.
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Yes, yes. Right. So the dynamics were a little different. And as a racketeering case, it was interesting for me to see because, as you mentioned, racketeering was designed
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initially to target the mafia it has for several decades now largely been used against street gangs now that the mafia is sort of less of an all-encompassing presence than it was say in the 1960s and 70s one thing about street gangs or at least the particular street gang at issue in the takashi case is, you know, you can argue about how real this is, but they certainly believed it was real.
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It had a very distinct organization, right? This person was a five-star general. This person was a three-star general. Very literally organized in that sense. Whereas with Diddy's organization so far, as we've heard, there were like people in certain roles, but it was like there were a couple of security people. There were a lot of assistants.
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There was like a chief of staff and a lot of these people kept cycling in and out. There isn't quite the defined hierarchy that there is in mafia and some street gang cases.
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The scale, obviously, sort of the press attention. But I think also, you know, the scope of the things. I mean, you're dealing with, you know, a centimillionaire, right? Someone who I believe at one point on paper was a billionaire.
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So, you know, you're dealing with someone who has what seemed like effectively limitless resources with which to allegedly exert their control over whoever they wanted. Girlfriends, assistants, whomever. So that's definitely seeing that side of things. And again, a high-powered CEO and entertainer's life from the inside has been just very different for me.
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The judge is trying very hard to have this case over before July 4th. He has mentioned that date multiple times. That seems to be mostly for the jury's sake, right? This is a lot to ask anyone to do, right? To take eight to 10 weeks off from your life, essentially.
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but also to keep it secret, including from your family, and also to not hear anything about this case for eight to 10 weeks while it's going on, which seems impossible. I went to a friend's birthday party last night, and the next thing I know, I'm hearing like, man, let me tell you, this one time I went to a party at Diddy's house on Star Island, and here's what it was like. You can't
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anytime someone susses out you have anything to do with this, it's, what was it like? Here's what I think. And I think even just walking down the street, you're sort of, you know, subjected to it. So it is a lot of pressure on the jury in a number of ways. And the judge seems very conscious of that.
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Without getting in the way of the defense presenting the best case again, he seems to be fighting very hard to keep it on the projected schedule that was presented to him before all this started, which was in the eight to 10 weekish range.
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These are the freak offs. Yes, yes. They were internally by both of them called freak offs or FOs. This was a name they they actually used. The government is alleging Diddy used his power, his businesses, the people who worked at his businesses to basically do a bunch of crimes to fulfill his sexual desires.
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So I will say as far as like the scuttlebutt in the courtroom, right? People have different opinions and I've heard things that are contradictory to this. But early on, as of maybe the second week, the general sort of scuttlebutt seemed to be that the charges of sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution were sort of closer to being proved than the racketeering.
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If you had to sort of take everyone's opinions that I have heard and meld them into one or average them out, That would, I think, as of a week ago, have been the average. Now, will that change as more witnesses are presented over the next four weeks? Possibly, maybe. But that thus far, if I had to kind of average out everyone's opinions, I think that's sort of what I've heard.
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Not only the freak offs and the sex trafficking and prostitution, but also stuff like kidnapping and arson and forced labor.
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Yes. This is why we've heard from multiple former assistants, people who are on the ground and can say, oh, the security team were the people who gave him money to pay the escorts and I carried his drugs and This is sort of the story that the government is laying out via its witnesses.
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So the defense haven't yet gotten to what is called their case in chief, meaning sort of the affirmative things they want to say about this situation. But you can tell via their questioning where they're going. The gist of it is they're saying Diddy is guilty of domestic violence. Yes, he's guilty of abuse. They're sort of admitting everything they can't deny. Right. But guess what?
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He's not charged with being a bad person. He's not even charged with domestic abuse. He's charged with these very specific crimes. And he didn't do that. So let's take, say, the buying of supplies for these freak offs, right? The loads of bottles of lube. Yeah.
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If you use corporate funds to buy, you know, Astro Glide and Johnson & Johnson's baby oil, that's showing that your businesses are set up to do these crimes.
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What Diddy's side is sort of implying, and at this point it's all implication, they haven't yet really spelled it out, is no, he just used his black card for everything. His wallet was a driver's license and a black card. So of course all of the funds came from this. It didn't mean he was trying to use the resources of his business to do all this stuff.
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It's just all the money came from this one pot and was sorted out later.
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So the trial is taking place in downtown Manhattan at a federal courthouse there. And it is just an absolute mob scene, super long line. People were and still are actually paying line holders to get there for them the night before or sometimes the afternoon before to make sure they're far enough in line to get into the courtroom.
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mostly reporters and youtubers there may be people you know who are just observing who do that but it's hundreds of dollars a day so you know just the characters who are there the time that someone started swinging a two by four wildly at the line before people went in in the morning like everyone was fine everyone was fine it is a a wild thing and i'm glad that i have the rest of
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sort of regular crew of media folks to go through with it to reassure me that, yes, I really am seeing this.
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Sure. So going in there, it holds, I don't know, maybe 100 people or so. It's not a packed thing. It can be a very tense and emotional environment. Like, even though no one's really talking, you can get a sense of how people are feeling in the same way you can in any mass gathering, I would say.
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I mean, one of the most indelible moments was they did spend a lot of time on the video that CNN eventually got of the Intercontinental Hotel in Los Angeles.
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Yes. Cassie on the stand watching it and being asked questions about it. And it really was just a very intense, emotional thing, more even just for the experience of watching it than her reaction, right? She, I think, had been pretty well coached on what to expect. And so it wasn't a watch it and burst into tears reaction. necessarily, right?
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It was a lot of verification. Who is this? This is you. Who is this? This is Sean Combs. What was he doing here? Just kind of beat by beat. Yes. What's the juror's reaction during this? By and large, they're turned away. So it's hard a lot of times to get a beat. But ultimately, as the trial went on, you heard about the same alleged assault from different people. Right.
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I think in one case, you know, there was a time where Didi supposedly pushed Cassie down on the floor into the corner of a bed frame that caused a gash on her eyebrow that she said she still has a scar from. And, you know, so far we've heard about that event from three different people.
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Yeah, assistants, basically. The stylist and the assistant slash friend, right? And Cassie herself.
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Yeah. So the core parts basically have to do with coercion, right? This idea that she was coerced into stuff and control, right? So this idea that by being not only her boyfriend, but her label boss, she's saying Diddy exercised almost complete control over her life, right? Where, what she was doing day to day, who she was spending time with, where she could go, what she could do.
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And it was via a bunch of means, including financial control, right? That he had control over her record contract, a one assistant contract, testified to a conversation with Cassie where she talked about how she got an allowance from Diddy. She and other people have said if he got mad at her, he would take away her phone and her car and he paid for her apartment. And so there was leverage there.
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People have testified that he often threatened to release sex tapes of her, which, you know, he wouldn't be in because they were with escorts. So he would be protected.
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So, you know, she once sent a panicked email to her mother saying he's threatening to release two sex tapes because he's mad I'm dating someone else. So elements of control, basically. She's saying he coerced her again hundreds of times into these sexual encounters with escorts. And would even tell her at what time to do drugs during them in order to keep her awake.
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You know, take the ecstasy now kind of thing is sort of how she painted the picture.
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Yes, yes, right. Getting ready for these things would be a day-long process of the tan and the salon and this and that. He wanted her to have only white fingernails with French tips. He was demanding... Even down to the tiniest detail. Not to mention the encounters themselves, which I don't know if this is a family show or not.
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And what to do with various fluids afterwards as well, which was a notable and horrific detail.
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So this is another thing that is sort of being painted two different ways by each side, right? In Cassie's telling, she was young, I think about 19 when they met and 21 when they started dating and relatively naive to the larger record business and the entertainment industry, right? When she met him and, you know, began dating him and fell in love and then sort of all of this followed from that.
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The defense has spent a lot of time talking about her modeling career as a teenager. You know, she was in catalogs and this and that, you know, starting around like 14, 15. And so they're they're saying, look, you already had some money from modeling. And oh, before you met Diddy, didn't you date this producer and musician Ryan Leslie for three years? And wasn't he 10 years older than you?
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So maybe you weren't so intimidated by a man 17 years older than you because you already had dated an older man for a while. And like, maybe you weren't quite as naive as you were getting out.
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He did. I was honestly a little, you know, we found out I think the day before that he was testifying and I was honestly a little surprised, you know, knowing the sort of. anti-snitching prohibitions and all of this kind of stuff in his milieu, I actually was a little bit surprised.
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So Cudi and Cassie in, you know, again, the government's telling, began dating in 2011 during a period at which Cassie and Diddy were broken up. And Even then, it was so secretive and Diddy was so controlling that Cassie went and got a burner phone at the urging of a friend slash assistant. She's dating Kid Cudi, trying to somewhat do it on the sly.
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Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison
So tell me, what is it that you remember about the incident that day? Offhand, do you remember that?
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Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison
Have you ever seen a documentary film, like, on TV, like the... with the Animal Kingdom show, where, you know... What we're going to do is when we get you into a deep state of hypnosis, we're going to take you to a theater. It's going to be your own private theater. And basically what it is, you're going to be seeing the documentary.
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Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison
You're going to be seeing the film of the events that occurred on that day, on that morning.
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Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison
Relax. This sensation that you're feeling on the bodily feet, I want you to imagine it now shooting up through your ankle and emptying this house with your legs. Feeling more and more relaxed. I want you to imagine the stress, the feelings, this... moving in and out of your leg, your calves, just separating the muscles.
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And she said to me, I have to tell you that you and a few other families may not be able to keep your babies.
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There's no way they're coming and taking my child from me.
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Everybody has speculations on what's going to happen. You know, a lot of emotions.
The Trial of Diddy
A Marvel Supervillain
It always started the same. It was to create a sexy scene, like I said before, but I understood it could escalate into more sexual activity, whether it be oral sex or penetrative sex.
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A Marvel Supervillain
It was pretty much a similar pattern. It would start in some sort of kind of put oil on ourselves, put it on each other and kind of create a sexy atmosphere.
The Trial of Diddy
A Marvel Supervillain
Similar like the first occasion, he would at some point come into the room, sit in the distance, give subtle directions to Ms. Ventura, There was one time we were actually having sex and he dropped like a stack of money on the bed and he said, I like this shit. One other time he came over and threw some condoms on the couch where we were interacting and said, I'm ready to see you fuck her.
The Trial of Diddy
A Marvel Supervillain
About how often do you remember Mr. Combs threatening your job?
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A Marvel Supervillain
What types of things do you remember Mr. Combs saying when he would threaten your job approximately monthly?
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What do you remember seeing when you went into these hotel rooms after Mr. Combs finished his stay in them?
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A Marvel Supervillain
And what, if any, powder do you remember seeing in any of these hotel rooms?
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A Marvel Supervillain
Another woman has now come forward, alleging Combs of sexual assault. Music mogul and rapper Sean Diddy. He claims she was drugged and sexually assaulted by Combs. Oh, this guy is dangerous.
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He ran out with no shirt on, got in his car, backed it up, almost hit the car behind him. I think they just said they were arguing.