Unnamed Former Patient

So we'll just sit on the table, have just, like, a conversation, and you will... Just record it.

So we'll just sit on the table, have just, like, a conversation, and you will... Just record it.

Yeah, when I was a kid and with the book, but later I worked with a Dutch program.

Yeah, when I was a kid and with the book, but later I worked with a Dutch program.

It happened that I had a new job and someone Googled me. Then I heard later that, oh, your video is going through the whole company. So that was very unsafe. That was not nice.

It happened that I had a new job and someone Googled me. Then I heard later that, oh, your video is going through the whole company. So that was very unsafe. That was not nice.

And I thought also I believe that if Analu speaks with you, then it's for me safe to also speak with you. Yeah, I did wonder.

And I thought also I believe that if Analu speaks with you, then it's for me safe to also speak with you. Yeah, I did wonder.

I can remember it was literally Wednesday afternoon, a few hours, and they were with a few colleagues, Peggy, Annelu, and the other doctor, and I think another few. So it was all very small, and I did realize I was a, yeah, how do you call it? Yeah, we say proofkunijn, a trial... A rabbit that they test makeup. Yeah, like where they test things on. So yeah, they have to test it on someone.

I can remember it was literally Wednesday afternoon, a few hours, and they were with a few colleagues, Peggy, Annelu, and the other doctor, and I think another few. So it was all very small, and I did realize I was a, yeah, how do you call it? Yeah, we say proofkunijn, a trial... A rabbit that they test makeup. Yeah, like where they test things on. So yeah, they have to test it on someone.

Well, yeah, fine by me.

Well, yeah, fine by me.

The first thing that was mentioned in all the papers was an early history of what at the time was called gender identity disorder.

The first thing that was mentioned in all the papers was an early history of what at the time was called gender identity disorder.

Always walking in my mom's clothes, wearing towels as skirts or long hair. I wanted to play with girls' stuff. And then, yeah, she always said, yeah, but you're a boy and you have a penis. And then I said, no, I'm not a boy, I'm a girl. and the penis will fall off. I always believed that.

Always walking in my mom's clothes, wearing towels as skirts or long hair. I wanted to play with girls' stuff. And then, yeah, she always said, yeah, but you're a boy and you have a penis. And then I said, no, I'm not a boy, I'm a girl. and the penis will fall off. I always believed that.

And I can also remember, I don't know if it's also in the USA, but like in Holland, if you don't close your zipper from your trousers, they say, ah, then it will fly away. So I always walked with my zipper open and I was so, yeah, convinced that... Yeah, something was wrong and it will get fixed. Then I came like the... Realization. Realization that it will not fall off or fly away.

And I can also remember, I don't know if it's also in the USA, but like in Holland, if you don't close your zipper from your trousers, they say, ah, then it will fly away. So I always walked with my zipper open and I was so, yeah, convinced that... Yeah, something was wrong and it will get fixed. Then I came like the... Realization. Realization that it will not fall off or fly away.

Ah, shit, it's not going to fly off. And I am a boy, but I do not feel like one. And then I really did everything to be the best boy in the world. So I had like... this sharp hair and with the gel and very boy clothes. And I climbed trees and hit people and was fighting. And yeah, so my mom said, I saw that you were so struggling being a boy, literally.

Ah, shit, it's not going to fly off. And I am a boy, but I do not feel like one. And then I really did everything to be the best boy in the world. So I had like... this sharp hair and with the gel and very boy clothes. And I climbed trees and hit people and was fighting. And yeah, so my mom said, I saw that you were so struggling being a boy, literally.