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And then he said that he had gone to the police and reported me to the police. First he said harassment. And then he said that he'd reported me for entrapment. And some of his messages were downright strange. He started to come up with a story. When he was in the hospital with his kidney infection, they found cancer cells.

And then he said that he had gone to the police and reported me to the police. First he said harassment. And then he said that he'd reported me for entrapment. And some of his messages were downright strange. He started to come up with a story. When he was in the hospital with his kidney infection, they found cancer cells.

And how selfish I am and what a horrible person I am for having told him that I was pregnant and that I'm basically killing him.

And how selfish I am and what a horrible person I am for having told him that I was pregnant and that I'm basically killing him.

I just thought he was an asshole. My friend, who's kinder than me, thought that he was in some sort of state of shock because he thought he could never have children.

I just thought he was an asshole. My friend, who's kinder than me, thought that he was in some sort of state of shock because he thought he could never have children.

This is something that he's gone through many, many, many, many times over.

This is something that he's gone through many, many, many, many times over.

I said, yeah, I'll let you know when she's born and you can decide if you want to have a DNA test or not. That's your right. And then he replied, no, thank you. I will not be participating in any DNA test.

I said, yeah, I'll let you know when she's born and you can decide if you want to have a DNA test or not. That's your right. And then he replied, no, thank you. I will not be participating in any DNA test.

When I went into labor, both she and I got an infection. She went blue and she was there in an incubator. She also had very, very, very bad jaundice.

When I went into labor, both she and I got an infection. She went blue and she was there in an incubator. She also had very, very, very bad jaundice.

He said, so, you know, just in case, the worst-case scenario, we're going to need to get medical history, blood types, the parents, in case there's some kind of rarity, genetic rarity or something like that. And I was like, well, I can only give you half.

He said, so, you know, just in case, the worst-case scenario, we're going to need to get medical history, blood types, the parents, in case there's some kind of rarity, genetic rarity or something like that. And I was like, well, I can only give you half.

There was probably a complex medical history that we needed to know about before we give this baby a blood transfusion. She was two days old.

There was probably a complex medical history that we needed to know about before we give this baby a blood transfusion. She was two days old.

I said, listen, here's my hospital number. This is the doctor's name. Can you just have him tell them blood type, any kind of medical history, anything like that? Neil's friend tried to get him to go, or at least to call the hospital. And he's like, no, absolutely. I told him he needs to get his house down there right away. But Neil never showed up. No call has come through to reception.

I said, listen, here's my hospital number. This is the doctor's name. Can you just have him tell them blood type, any kind of medical history, anything like that? Neil's friend tried to get him to go, or at least to call the hospital. And he's like, no, absolutely. I told him he needs to get his house down there right away. But Neil never showed up. No call has come through to reception.

A friend of mine described it really well. She said, it's not like he's a catch me if you can type person. He actually lies to make himself as normal as possible. Just like your average bloke. And it's true. His facade was authenticity.

A friend of mine described it really well. She said, it's not like he's a catch me if you can type person. He actually lies to make himself as normal as possible. Just like your average bloke. And it's true. His facade was authenticity.

So yeah, he's not here and has not been here.

So yeah, he's not here and has not been here.

He sent me long, long, long abusive text messages that I wouldn't lift a finger to help your child. Even if she did have my DNA, I'm not giving any information to any doctors. I'm like, ooh, okay. You are a psychopath. This is a two-day-old baby, and all I asked is for you to make a phone call. Which anybody would do for a stranger's baby, for a kitten.

He sent me long, long, long abusive text messages that I wouldn't lift a finger to help your child. Even if she did have my DNA, I'm not giving any information to any doctors. I'm like, ooh, okay. You are a psychopath. This is a two-day-old baby, and all I asked is for you to make a phone call. Which anybody would do for a stranger's baby, for a kitten.

No human being would refuse to make a phone call to potentially save a baby.

No human being would refuse to make a phone call to potentially save a baby.

He called me vile-tongued, foul woman, all sorts of horrible names. So yeah, I'd just given birth. I was in hospital with needles stuck in me for the antibiotics and things like that. I was like, this is a really evil person. She was beyond anger. I was disgusted. I was disgusted. I was like, whatever you are, you have no humanity.

He called me vile-tongued, foul woman, all sorts of horrible names. So yeah, I'd just given birth. I was in hospital with needles stuck in me for the antibiotics and things like that. I was like, this is a really evil person. She was beyond anger. I was disgusted. I was disgusted. I was like, whatever you are, you have no humanity.

I'm just going to send the child support agency after you for the next 18 years.

I'm just going to send the child support agency after you for the next 18 years.

My son adored her from day one, and she was just the sweetest baby.

My son adored her from day one, and she was just the sweetest baby.

So I took the mandatory two weeks and went back to work. I was back on a train in London. I had a nanny and a friend helped me out also with her. And yeah, back to work.

So I took the mandatory two weeks and went back to work. I was back on a train in London. I had a nanny and a friend helped me out also with her. And yeah, back to work.

It came back that, firstly, it said that he only had to pay £5 a week because he was in receipt of benefits.

It came back that, firstly, it said that he only had to pay £5 a week because he was in receipt of benefits.

And I said, well, he's not. And if he is, he shouldn't be because he's got a business. I mean, I've seen it, I know. He has a functioning business.

And I said, well, he's not. And if he is, he shouldn't be because he's got a business. I mean, I've seen it, I know. He has a functioning business.

The other interesting thing was that five pounds a week was split between my daughter and three other children. I was like, okay, so here's a news bit.

The other interesting thing was that five pounds a week was split between my daughter and three other children. I was like, okay, so here's a news bit.

At this point, I realized that there's a lot of lies. So I go on Facebook. And Norman isn't a common name. I pull it up and there's her Facebook profile. The first thing she noticed about her profile? She was not in America. She's right here in the UK. And the second? Pictures of two girls who are undoubtedly his daughters.

At this point, I realized that there's a lot of lies. So I go on Facebook. And Norman isn't a common name. I pull it up and there's her Facebook profile. The first thing she noticed about her profile? She was not in America. She's right here in the UK. And the second? Pictures of two girls who are undoubtedly his daughters.

So I text her on Facebook. And yeah, obviously I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know how she would react, if she would respond at all. I didn't know if they were still married and he'd lied about that. I had no idea what. to expect from this, but yeah, what could I do? So I wrote her a message and she immediately responded.

So I text her on Facebook. And yeah, obviously I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know how she would react, if she would respond at all. I didn't know if they were still married and he'd lied about that. I had no idea what. to expect from this, but yeah, what could I do? So I wrote her a message and she immediately responded.

The first line of a very long message said, I'm so, so sorry that you have been his victim.

The first line of a very long message said, I'm so, so sorry that you have been his victim.

There's definitely an element of control. He can walk away, but he can remotely control the rest of your life.

There's definitely an element of control. He can walk away, but he can remotely control the rest of your life.

Yeah, we start talking and communicating.

Yeah, we start talking and communicating.

If she hadn't have been bailed out by her parents, they would have been on the streets or something like that. And yeah, she seemed traumatized.

If she hadn't have been bailed out by her parents, they would have been on the streets or something like that. And yeah, she seemed traumatized.

So we now know that the whole America thing was a lie. Cancer thing, well, yeah, even if he'd had cancer, it did not cause infertility. I'm like, wow, okay, great. Now we're down a rabbit hole.

So we now know that the whole America thing was a lie. Cancer thing, well, yeah, even if he'd had cancer, it did not cause infertility. I'm like, wow, okay, great. Now we're down a rabbit hole.

So we met up in London. We both like sushi, so we went to a very nice sushi restaurant.

So we met up in London. We both like sushi, so we went to a very nice sushi restaurant.

She'd said that she had never told her daughters about the older boys that she'd found out about.

She'd said that she had never told her daughters about the older boys that she'd found out about.

Nothing, absolutely nothing in all of these years, except an annual birthday phone call to one of the children where you would lie about having sent a gift that never arrived.

Nothing, absolutely nothing in all of these years, except an annual birthday phone call to one of the children where you would lie about having sent a gift that never arrived.

So we took a selfie. We were both giving the bird and we sent him an email with just a picture and entitled the other mother, mother. He went ballistic.

So we took a selfie. We were both giving the bird and we sent him an email with just a picture and entitled the other mother, mother. He went ballistic.

And then he'd also sent a horrific email to my work. A very graphic, slut-shaming email addressed to the entire company, including the CEO. She was horrified. This was too far. So I reported this to the police and they did take it quite seriously and they said that it was malicious communication. But this wasn't the first time the cops had investigated Neil.

And then he'd also sent a horrific email to my work. A very graphic, slut-shaming email addressed to the entire company, including the CEO. She was horrified. This was too far. So I reported this to the police and they did take it quite seriously and they said that it was malicious communication. But this wasn't the first time the cops had investigated Neil.

He was also involved in a very high-profile fraud case with the Fimbo wine scheme. And his ex-girlfriend actually ended up serving time for that. But he just walked away scot-free.

He was also involved in a very high-profile fraud case with the Fimbo wine scheme. And his ex-girlfriend actually ended up serving time for that. But he just walked away scot-free.

When Tina called for an update... Strangely, the police were like, well, we can't find him. He went underground or something. And then after a year, the warrant was cancelled, which I found odd. Tina knew where he was. He wasn't hiding at all. It's like, well, I can find him. Why can't you? This got Tina thinking. It crossed my mind that he might have been an informant.

When Tina called for an update... Strangely, the police were like, well, we can't find him. He went underground or something. And then after a year, the warrant was cancelled, which I found odd. Tina knew where he was. He wasn't hiding at all. It's like, well, I can find him. Why can't you? This got Tina thinking. It crossed my mind that he might have been an informant.

And, you know, he got himself out of these things by giving information to throw other people under the bus.

And, you know, he got himself out of these things by giving information to throw other people under the bus.

So I was born in Iran, actually, before the revolution. We came here in 1978. And I grew up in southeast England, so... very green, leafy parts of the world.

So I was born in Iran, actually, before the revolution. We came here in 1978. And I grew up in southeast England, so... very green, leafy parts of the world.

We said, look, why don't we start a Facebook group that has his name in it? So at least if someone's looking to sort of, you know, date him or get into business and they look him up, On Facebook, it'll come up and maybe give them a red flag, give them a warning. So we set up this Facebook group called the Neil Dorman Victim Support Group. It was a little tongue in cheek.

We said, look, why don't we start a Facebook group that has his name in it? So at least if someone's looking to sort of, you know, date him or get into business and they look him up, On Facebook, it'll come up and maybe give them a red flag, give them a warning. So we set up this Facebook group called the Neil Dorman Victim Support Group. It was a little tongue in cheek.

But yeah, the interesting thing was that, you know, one after another, people actually started to join and tell their stories online.

But yeah, the interesting thing was that, you know, one after another, people actually started to join and tell their stories online.

befriend somebody get into their lives get understand their business and then take over the business he would just make a copy of it and then take all the customers and try and start these businesses that were other people's and then suddenly he's an expert

befriend somebody get into their lives get understand their business and then take over the business he would just make a copy of it and then take all the customers and try and start these businesses that were other people's and then suddenly he's an expert

He's done that a lot. He's done that a lot. It's been quite a few people that he's had these sort of online, ongoing relationships with.

He's done that a lot. He's done that a lot. It's been quite a few people that he's had these sort of online, ongoing relationships with.

She was only 18 at the time. Thought she was going for a job interview. And then he said, oh, there's meetings going on in the office. You have to meet me. There's a restaurant downstairs. And bought her a drink. She wrote to Tina.

She was only 18 at the time. Thought she was going for a job interview. And then he said, oh, there's meetings going on in the office. You have to meet me. There's a restaurant downstairs. And bought her a drink. She wrote to Tina.

The fact that they have these almost identical stories makes me think that, you know, that's a pattern.

The fact that they have these almost identical stories makes me think that, you know, that's a pattern.

I went to Australia and Thailand and India as well, a lot of places, Costa Rica, you know. I spent a lot of time sort of building my career and living life.

I went to Australia and Thailand and India as well, a lot of places, Costa Rica, you know. I spent a lot of time sort of building my career and living life.

And it turned out that her son was only a few weeks older than one of his other sons. and they lived down the road from each other.

And it turned out that her son was only a few weeks older than one of his other sons. and they lived down the road from each other.

I mean, that's how close they were.

I mean, that's how close they were.

As far as I'm aware, he believed that his stepfather was his real father until he was about 14 and then the mother told him the truth. But he was rejected by his own father, but he was never in Neil's life.

As far as I'm aware, he believed that his stepfather was his real father until he was about 14 and then the mother told him the truth. But he was rejected by his own father, but he was never in Neil's life.

when Neil was about 18, that's when he got the first mother pregnant. She was only 15 at the time. The baby was born and he ran off.

when Neil was about 18, that's when he got the first mother pregnant. She was only 15 at the time. The baby was born and he ran off.

There's definitely an element of control. Like, he can remotely control the rest of your life. He can walk away, but still keep that control.

There's definitely an element of control. Like, he can remotely control the rest of your life. He can walk away, but still keep that control.

From people coming forward and talking to us, there are at least 13 credible children that, you know, the mothers have said that he's the father.

From people coming forward and talking to us, there are at least 13 credible children that, you know, the mothers have said that he's the father.

Tina admits... He does have good taste in women. This is one redeeming quality. And it's interesting because he doesn't tend to go for vulnerable women. He doesn't tend to go for women who he can control financially or who don't have close families and things like that. It's almost like a challenge to him that he...

Tina admits... He does have good taste in women. This is one redeeming quality. And it's interesting because he doesn't tend to go for vulnerable women. He doesn't tend to go for women who he can control financially or who don't have close families and things like that. It's almost like a challenge to him that he...

will target women who are strong, who have careers, who are accomplished, and break them down.

will target women who are strong, who have careers, who are accomplished, and break them down.

He told me about when he was a teenager, he'd gone to try and find him. And he'd waited outside his office. He'd spoken to him on the phone and he seemed all right on the phone. But then when he went to meet him, he waited in a coffee shop across from where he worked. And then Neil came down and saw him and just turned the other way and walked away. A lot of these stories are very heartbreaking.

He told me about when he was a teenager, he'd gone to try and find him. And he'd waited outside his office. He'd spoken to him on the phone and he seemed all right on the phone. But then when he went to meet him, he waited in a coffee shop across from where he worked. And then Neil came down and saw him and just turned the other way and walked away. A lot of these stories are very heartbreaking.

There was another high-profile case whereby someone who is a convicted rapist was taken to court because he'd claimed to have had a vasectomy and got a woman pregnant. And the jury had ruled him guilty. He was given a sentence. However, they appealed it and the Supreme Court overruled the conviction.

There was another high-profile case whereby someone who is a convicted rapist was taken to court because he'd claimed to have had a vasectomy and got a woman pregnant. And the jury had ruled him guilty. He was given a sentence. However, they appealed it and the Supreme Court overruled the conviction.

My daughter is an absolute blessing, a gift. She's a ray of sunshine. You know, the irony of this whole thing is that she looks just like him.

My daughter is an absolute blessing, a gift. She's a ray of sunshine. You know, the irony of this whole thing is that she looks just like him.

I was like, your father, he's not a nice person, but that's nothing to do with you. She's like, oh, OK. She's just very matter-of-fact and it's... It's just funny how adaptable kids are. Friends of hers very innocently ask, you know, so where's your dad? And she's like, oh, I don't have one. I don't have one. When they do Father's Day things at school, she makes things for her brother.

I was like, your father, he's not a nice person, but that's nothing to do with you. She's like, oh, OK. She's just very matter-of-fact and it's... It's just funny how adaptable kids are. Friends of hers very innocently ask, you know, so where's your dad? And she's like, oh, I don't have one. I don't have one. When they do Father's Day things at school, she makes things for her brother.

He was an incredible baby, and I really enjoyed becoming a mother. But her husband, on the other hand, struggled. He wasn't a very hands-on father. It was just me over me against the world for a while.

He was an incredible baby, and I really enjoyed becoming a mother. But her husband, on the other hand, struggled. He wasn't a very hands-on father. It was just me over me against the world for a while.

When Wendy told her daughters... One of the things that the older daughter did say was that she wanted to meet her sister.

When Wendy told her daughters... One of the things that the older daughter did say was that she wanted to meet her sister.

But at the end of the day... What hurts and what causes damage is the lies, not the truth. I've seen it over and over again that a lot of the children, the people, the victims have all been impacted so negatively by this trail of lies upon lies upon lies upon lies. And the best way to combat that is by absolute truth. And my daughter will have a source of truth about her situation.

But at the end of the day... What hurts and what causes damage is the lies, not the truth. I've seen it over and over again that a lot of the children, the people, the victims have all been impacted so negatively by this trail of lies upon lies upon lies upon lies. And the best way to combat that is by absolute truth. And my daughter will have a source of truth about her situation.

She wasn't abandoned and it's not her fault. This is what he does. This is a him problem.

She wasn't abandoned and it's not her fault. This is what he does. This is a him problem.

If I can help one person, avoid that pain avoid going through this situation or to get out before it's something devastating if I could help one of the mothers out there to feel not alone that overcomes all of his darkness all of his lies I think that that can only be a positive thing

If I can help one person, avoid that pain avoid going through this situation or to get out before it's something devastating if I could help one of the mothers out there to feel not alone that overcomes all of his darkness all of his lies I think that that can only be a positive thing

I was at a mom's drinks thing, and I remember having a conversation with one of the moms who had a lot of problems with the second child. She said to me, I'm like, you've got to write, like, one child. The dream.

I was at a mom's drinks thing, and I remember having a conversation with one of the moms who had a lot of problems with the second child. She said to me, I'm like, you've got to write, like, one child. The dream.

He spends more time with friends. He goes to sleepovers. He's got a little bit more independence. I wasn't actively going out and dating or anything like that. I was so busy, I wasn't even thinking about dating. It wasn't on the radar.

He spends more time with friends. He goes to sleepovers. He's got a little bit more independence. I wasn't actively going out and dating or anything like that. I was so busy, I wasn't even thinking about dating. It wasn't on the radar.

He's a very charismatic person. He's a very good-looking person. I suppose he was a bit flirtatious.

He's a very charismatic person. He's a very good-looking person. I suppose he was a bit flirtatious.

And then one day he texted me, and I had just closed a very significant deal. So I was in a very good mood, and he said that he was in the area and asked me if I'd fancy going for a drink. That night, her son was at a sleepover.

And then one day he texted me, and I had just closed a very significant deal. So I was in a very good mood, and he said that he was in the area and asked me if I'd fancy going for a drink. That night, her son was at a sleepover.

We sat down and started talking. He was very... open, asked me about, you know, my life.

We sat down and started talking. He was very... open, asked me about, you know, my life.

He told me that his ex-wife, they lived together in the U.S., and she had cheated on him, and she'd run off with his best friend.

He told me that his ex-wife, they lived together in the U.S., and she had cheated on him, and she'd run off with his best friend.

She was very bitter about the fact that he couldn't give her children. And then he went on to tell me about the fact that he'd had cancer and a testicular cancer. So it was impossible.

She was very bitter about the fact that he couldn't give her children. And then he went on to tell me about the fact that he'd had cancer and a testicular cancer. So it was impossible.

He seemed almost a little bit vulnerable. Like, he had this sort of emotional vulnerability about him. The night was going well.

He seemed almost a little bit vulnerable. Like, he had this sort of emotional vulnerability about him. The night was going well.

I didn't see it as being a long-term, serious relationship prospect. That was not where my head was. That's not the sort of time that I had. I wasn't interested in bringing anyone into my son's life. It was just letting my hair down and having a bit of fun, really. And Neil knew how to have a good time. He had that sort of cheeky, chappy, Jack the Lad kind of thing about him. It was fun.

I didn't see it as being a long-term, serious relationship prospect. That was not where my head was. That's not the sort of time that I had. I wasn't interested in bringing anyone into my son's life. It was just letting my hair down and having a bit of fun, really. And Neil knew how to have a good time. He had that sort of cheeky, chappy, Jack the Lad kind of thing about him. It was fun.

At the end of their night together... He walked me home in the very early hours of the morning.

At the end of their night together... He walked me home in the very early hours of the morning.

Before they slept together... I said to him that I wasn't on the pill. Does he have anything? He said, no, I'm really allergic to latex.

Before they slept together... I said to him that I wasn't on the pill. Does he have anything? He said, no, I'm really allergic to latex.

I was quite adamant about using withdrawal methods. And I'd asked him, did you withdraw in time? Because if I could have gone and got a Plan B... But he was like, no, absolutely.

I was quite adamant about using withdrawal methods. And I'd asked him, did you withdraw in time? Because if I could have gone and got a Plan B... But he was like, no, absolutely.

He said that he went to the London School of Economics, which is sort of Harvard Business School level.

He said that he went to the London School of Economics, which is sort of Harvard Business School level.

I didn't really question it too much. I wasn't thinking of him as, you know, husband material or something, so things weren't registering too much with me. Eventually, Neil's appeal started to wear off. There was just one too many things that just wasn't adding up or ringing true. Like, he would make a plan and then have some weird excuse. And like, it's starting to be less fun now.

I didn't really question it too much. I wasn't thinking of him as, you know, husband material or something, so things weren't registering too much with me. Eventually, Neil's appeal started to wear off. There was just one too many things that just wasn't adding up or ringing true. Like, he would make a plan and then have some weird excuse. And like, it's starting to be less fun now.

A few weeks later, she didn't feel quite like herself. I was misplacing things. I was looking for my car keys all over the place and realized that I'd thrown them in the wheelie bin with my rubbish when I threw the rubbish out. This feeling was familiar. Funny thing, I normally only do things like that when I'm pregnant. I don't get morning sickness. I don't get cravings. But I get very forgetful.

A few weeks later, she didn't feel quite like herself. I was misplacing things. I was looking for my car keys all over the place and realized that I'd thrown them in the wheelie bin with my rubbish when I threw the rubbish out. This feeling was familiar. Funny thing, I normally only do things like that when I'm pregnant. I don't get morning sickness. I don't get cravings. But I get very forgetful.

She said to me, go and get a pregnancy test. And she said, as soon as you do that, and you realize that you're not pregnant, then the period will come. I'm like, you know, that's a really good idea. So she got the test. So I went to the bathroom and read the instructions. And then, yeah, pop the lid on you. You're supposed to wait three minutes. Immediately came up pregnant.

She said to me, go and get a pregnancy test. And she said, as soon as you do that, and you realize that you're not pregnant, then the period will come. I'm like, you know, that's a really good idea. So she got the test. So I went to the bathroom and read the instructions. And then, yeah, pop the lid on you. You're supposed to wait three minutes. Immediately came up pregnant.

Okay, I'll just wait the full three minutes for the knot to come up.

Okay, I'll just wait the full three minutes for the knot to come up.

It's hard to describe, but she was very present in me very early on. There was something very, very strong about this present. And I felt that right away.

It's hard to describe, but she was very present in me very early on. There was something very, very strong about this present. And I felt that right away.

There hadn't been anybody else.

There hadn't been anybody else.

She was like, oh, all these years he didn't know that he could have children.

She was like, oh, all these years he didn't know that he could have children.

but to meet up tomorrow. I can come and meet you, but need to have a little chat. And then he said something along the lines of, yeah, yeah, sure. I'll send my brother to meet you. And I'm like, no, because we need to talk. And he said, well, I don't see why there's anything you can't tell me here. I was like, really? You want me to tell you what I need to tell you over text? And he's like, yeah.

but to meet up tomorrow. I can come and meet you, but need to have a little chat. And then he said something along the lines of, yeah, yeah, sure. I'll send my brother to meet you. And I'm like, no, because we need to talk. And he said, well, I don't see why there's anything you can't tell me here. I was like, really? You want me to tell you what I need to tell you over text? And he's like, yeah.

I was like, okay, fine, if you insist. And so I said, I am pregnant. You are the only option of who the father is. And then he answered a little bit strangely. He said, nice try. I had a vasectomy. I was like, vasectomy? And I sent him a picture of the pregnancy test. I said, well, it didn't work. she wasn't expecting anything from him.

I was like, okay, fine, if you insist. And so I said, I am pregnant. You are the only option of who the father is. And then he answered a little bit strangely. He said, nice try. I had a vasectomy. I was like, vasectomy? And I sent him a picture of the pregnancy test. I said, well, it didn't work. she wasn't expecting anything from him.

One of the things that I immediately said was, I'm not expecting or asking you to be a father to the child. I am letting you know because it's a responsible thing to do and you can be as uninvolved as you wish.

One of the things that I immediately said was, I'm not expecting or asking you to be a father to the child. I am letting you know because it's a responsible thing to do and you can be as uninvolved as you wish.

Things turned nasty on his part, which took me aback. He sent me a whole load of nasty voicemails.

Things turned nasty on his part, which took me aback. He sent me a whole load of nasty voicemails.

And you could just hear in his voice that turn and how nasty he became. It was like real vitriol.

And you could just hear in his voice that turn and how nasty he became. It was like real vitriol.

And then he said that he had gone to the police and reported me to the police. First he said harassment. And then he said that he'd reported me for entrapment. And some of his messages were downright strange. He started to come up with a story. When he was in the hospital with his kidney infection, they found cancer cells.

And how selfish I am and what a horrible person I am for having told him that I was pregnant and that I'm basically killing him.

I just thought he was an asshole. My friend, who's kinder than me, thought that he was in some sort of state of shock because he thought he could never have children.

This is something that he's gone through many, many, many, many times over.

I said, yeah, I'll let you know when she's born and you can decide if you want to have a DNA test or not. That's your right. And then he replied, no, thank you. I will not be participating in any DNA test.

When I went into labor, both she and I got an infection. She went blue and she was there in an incubator. She also had very, very, very bad jaundice.

He said, so, you know, just in case, the worst-case scenario, we're going to need to get medical history, blood types, the parents, in case there's some kind of rarity, genetic rarity or something like that. And I was like, well, I can only give you half.

There was probably a complex medical history that we needed to know about before we give this baby a blood transfusion. She was two days old.

I said, listen, here's my hospital number. This is the doctor's name. Can you just have him tell them blood type, any kind of medical history, anything like that? Neil's friend tried to get him to go, or at least to call the hospital. And he's like, no, absolutely. I told him he needs to get his house down there right away. But Neil never showed up. No call has come through to reception.

A friend of mine described it really well. She said, it's not like he's a catch me if you can type person. He actually lies to make himself as normal as possible. Just like your average bloke. And it's true. His facade was authenticity.

So yeah, he's not here and has not been here.

He sent me long, long, long abusive text messages that I wouldn't lift a finger to help your child. Even if she did have my DNA, I'm not giving any information to any doctors. I'm like, ooh, okay. You are a psychopath. This is a two-day-old baby, and all I asked is for you to make a phone call. Which anybody would do for a stranger's baby, for a kitten.

No human being would refuse to make a phone call to potentially save a baby.

He called me vile-tongued, foul woman, all sorts of horrible names. So yeah, I'd just given birth. I was in hospital with needles stuck in me for the antibiotics and things like that. I was like, this is a really evil person. She was beyond anger. I was disgusted. I was disgusted. I was like, whatever you are, you have no humanity.

I'm just going to send the child support agency after you for the next 18 years.

My son adored her from day one, and she was just the sweetest baby.

So I took the mandatory two weeks and went back to work. I was back on a train in London. I had a nanny and a friend helped me out also with her. And yeah, back to work.

It came back that, firstly, it said that he only had to pay £5 a week because he was in receipt of benefits.

And I said, well, he's not. And if he is, he shouldn't be because he's got a business. I mean, I've seen it, I know. He has a functioning business.

The other interesting thing was that five pounds a week was split between my daughter and three other children. I was like, okay, so here's a news bit.

At this point, I realized that there's a lot of lies. So I go on Facebook. And Norman isn't a common name. I pull it up and there's her Facebook profile. The first thing she noticed about her profile? She was not in America. She's right here in the UK. And the second? Pictures of two girls who are undoubtedly his daughters.

So I text her on Facebook. And yeah, obviously I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know how she would react, if she would respond at all. I didn't know if they were still married and he'd lied about that. I had no idea what. to expect from this, but yeah, what could I do? So I wrote her a message and she immediately responded.

The first line of a very long message said, I'm so, so sorry that you have been his victim.

There's definitely an element of control. He can walk away, but he can remotely control the rest of your life.

Yeah, we start talking and communicating.

If she hadn't have been bailed out by her parents, they would have been on the streets or something like that. And yeah, she seemed traumatized.

So we now know that the whole America thing was a lie. Cancer thing, well, yeah, even if he'd had cancer, it did not cause infertility. I'm like, wow, okay, great. Now we're down a rabbit hole.

So we met up in London. We both like sushi, so we went to a very nice sushi restaurant.

She'd said that she had never told her daughters about the older boys that she'd found out about.

Nothing, absolutely nothing in all of these years, except an annual birthday phone call to one of the children where you would lie about having sent a gift that never arrived.

So we took a selfie. We were both giving the bird and we sent him an email with just a picture and entitled the other mother, mother. He went ballistic.

And then he'd also sent a horrific email to my work. A very graphic, slut-shaming email addressed to the entire company, including the CEO. She was horrified. This was too far. So I reported this to the police and they did take it quite seriously and they said that it was malicious communication. But this wasn't the first time the cops had investigated Neil.

He was also involved in a very high-profile fraud case with the Fimbo wine scheme. And his ex-girlfriend actually ended up serving time for that. But he just walked away scot-free.

When Tina called for an update... Strangely, the police were like, well, we can't find him. He went underground or something. And then after a year, the warrant was cancelled, which I found odd. Tina knew where he was. He wasn't hiding at all. It's like, well, I can find him. Why can't you? This got Tina thinking. It crossed my mind that he might have been an informant.

And, you know, he got himself out of these things by giving information to throw other people under the bus.

So I was born in Iran, actually, before the revolution. We came here in 1978. And I grew up in southeast England, so... very green, leafy parts of the world.

We said, look, why don't we start a Facebook group that has his name in it? So at least if someone's looking to sort of, you know, date him or get into business and they look him up, On Facebook, it'll come up and maybe give them a red flag, give them a warning. So we set up this Facebook group called the Neil Dorman Victim Support Group. It was a little tongue in cheek.

But yeah, the interesting thing was that, you know, one after another, people actually started to join and tell their stories online.

befriend somebody get into their lives get understand their business and then take over the business he would just make a copy of it and then take all the customers and try and start these businesses that were other people's and then suddenly he's an expert

He's done that a lot. He's done that a lot. It's been quite a few people that he's had these sort of online, ongoing relationships with.

She was only 18 at the time. Thought she was going for a job interview. And then he said, oh, there's meetings going on in the office. You have to meet me. There's a restaurant downstairs. And bought her a drink. She wrote to Tina.

The fact that they have these almost identical stories makes me think that, you know, that's a pattern.

I went to Australia and Thailand and India as well, a lot of places, Costa Rica, you know. I spent a lot of time sort of building my career and living life.

And it turned out that her son was only a few weeks older than one of his other sons. and they lived down the road from each other.

I mean, that's how close they were.

As far as I'm aware, he believed that his stepfather was his real father until he was about 14 and then the mother told him the truth. But he was rejected by his own father, but he was never in Neil's life.

when Neil was about 18, that's when he got the first mother pregnant. She was only 15 at the time. The baby was born and he ran off.

There's definitely an element of control. Like, he can remotely control the rest of your life. He can walk away, but still keep that control.

From people coming forward and talking to us, there are at least 13 credible children that, you know, the mothers have said that he's the father.

Tina admits... He does have good taste in women. This is one redeeming quality. And it's interesting because he doesn't tend to go for vulnerable women. He doesn't tend to go for women who he can control financially or who don't have close families and things like that. It's almost like a challenge to him that he...

will target women who are strong, who have careers, who are accomplished, and break them down.

He told me about when he was a teenager, he'd gone to try and find him. And he'd waited outside his office. He'd spoken to him on the phone and he seemed all right on the phone. But then when he went to meet him, he waited in a coffee shop across from where he worked. And then Neil came down and saw him and just turned the other way and walked away. A lot of these stories are very heartbreaking.

There was another high-profile case whereby someone who is a convicted rapist was taken to court because he'd claimed to have had a vasectomy and got a woman pregnant. And the jury had ruled him guilty. He was given a sentence. However, they appealed it and the Supreme Court overruled the conviction.

My daughter is an absolute blessing, a gift. She's a ray of sunshine. You know, the irony of this whole thing is that she looks just like him.

I was like, your father, he's not a nice person, but that's nothing to do with you. She's like, oh, OK. She's just very matter-of-fact and it's... It's just funny how adaptable kids are. Friends of hers very innocently ask, you know, so where's your dad? And she's like, oh, I don't have one. I don't have one. When they do Father's Day things at school, she makes things for her brother.

He was an incredible baby, and I really enjoyed becoming a mother. But her husband, on the other hand, struggled. He wasn't a very hands-on father. It was just me over me against the world for a while.

When Wendy told her daughters... One of the things that the older daughter did say was that she wanted to meet her sister.

But at the end of the day... What hurts and what causes damage is the lies, not the truth. I've seen it over and over again that a lot of the children, the people, the victims have all been impacted so negatively by this trail of lies upon lies upon lies upon lies. And the best way to combat that is by absolute truth. And my daughter will have a source of truth about her situation.

She wasn't abandoned and it's not her fault. This is what he does. This is a him problem.

If I can help one person, avoid that pain avoid going through this situation or to get out before it's something devastating if I could help one of the mothers out there to feel not alone that overcomes all of his darkness all of his lies I think that that can only be a positive thing

I was at a mom's drinks thing, and I remember having a conversation with one of the moms who had a lot of problems with the second child. She said to me, I'm like, you've got to write, like, one child. The dream.

He spends more time with friends. He goes to sleepovers. He's got a little bit more independence. I wasn't actively going out and dating or anything like that. I was so busy, I wasn't even thinking about dating. It wasn't on the radar.

He's a very charismatic person. He's a very good-looking person. I suppose he was a bit flirtatious.

And then one day he texted me, and I had just closed a very significant deal. So I was in a very good mood, and he said that he was in the area and asked me if I'd fancy going for a drink. That night, her son was at a sleepover.

We sat down and started talking. He was very... open, asked me about, you know, my life.

He told me that his ex-wife, they lived together in the U.S., and she had cheated on him, and she'd run off with his best friend.

She was very bitter about the fact that he couldn't give her children. And then he went on to tell me about the fact that he'd had cancer and a testicular cancer. So it was impossible.

He seemed almost a little bit vulnerable. Like, he had this sort of emotional vulnerability about him. The night was going well.

I didn't see it as being a long-term, serious relationship prospect. That was not where my head was. That's not the sort of time that I had. I wasn't interested in bringing anyone into my son's life. It was just letting my hair down and having a bit of fun, really. And Neil knew how to have a good time. He had that sort of cheeky, chappy, Jack the Lad kind of thing about him. It was fun.

At the end of their night together... He walked me home in the very early hours of the morning.

Before they slept together... I said to him that I wasn't on the pill. Does he have anything? He said, no, I'm really allergic to latex.

I was quite adamant about using withdrawal methods. And I'd asked him, did you withdraw in time? Because if I could have gone and got a Plan B... But he was like, no, absolutely.

He said that he went to the London School of Economics, which is sort of Harvard Business School level.

I didn't really question it too much. I wasn't thinking of him as, you know, husband material or something, so things weren't registering too much with me. Eventually, Neil's appeal started to wear off. There was just one too many things that just wasn't adding up or ringing true. Like, he would make a plan and then have some weird excuse. And like, it's starting to be less fun now.

A few weeks later, she didn't feel quite like herself. I was misplacing things. I was looking for my car keys all over the place and realized that I'd thrown them in the wheelie bin with my rubbish when I threw the rubbish out. This feeling was familiar. Funny thing, I normally only do things like that when I'm pregnant. I don't get morning sickness. I don't get cravings. But I get very forgetful.

She said to me, go and get a pregnancy test. And she said, as soon as you do that, and you realize that you're not pregnant, then the period will come. I'm like, you know, that's a really good idea. So she got the test. So I went to the bathroom and read the instructions. And then, yeah, pop the lid on you. You're supposed to wait three minutes. Immediately came up pregnant.

Okay, I'll just wait the full three minutes for the knot to come up.

It's hard to describe, but she was very present in me very early on. There was something very, very strong about this present. And I felt that right away.

There hadn't been anybody else.

She was like, oh, all these years he didn't know that he could have children.

but to meet up tomorrow. I can come and meet you, but need to have a little chat. And then he said something along the lines of, yeah, yeah, sure. I'll send my brother to meet you. And I'm like, no, because we need to talk. And he said, well, I don't see why there's anything you can't tell me here. I was like, really? You want me to tell you what I need to tell you over text? And he's like, yeah.

I was like, okay, fine, if you insist. And so I said, I am pregnant. You are the only option of who the father is. And then he answered a little bit strangely. He said, nice try. I had a vasectomy. I was like, vasectomy? And I sent him a picture of the pregnancy test. I said, well, it didn't work. she wasn't expecting anything from him.

One of the things that I immediately said was, I'm not expecting or asking you to be a father to the child. I am letting you know because it's a responsible thing to do and you can be as uninvolved as you wish.

Things turned nasty on his part, which took me aback. He sent me a whole load of nasty voicemails.

And you could just hear in his voice that turn and how nasty he became. It was like real vitriol.