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Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, second tallest pyramid in the Mayan world. And at the very top of it, you can't see it, but there's like a little stone. structure on the very top, but on that structure is these trident shapes.

Danny Jones Podcast

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No, you won't have it on there? No. No one's allowed up there. Oh, okay. I've got some photos of them at one point. Wow, man, you've been everywhere. Yeah, yeah. World traveler. But, you know, the Mayans, they also have a... they have a, I'll tell you, um, the Templars were trading, uh, was trading silver with them clear back in the 1200s. And, uh, and to this day, the Mayans have preserved, uh,

Danny Jones Podcast

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Like for example, they create their altars the same way the Templars do and they even put an equal armed cross on their altars, just like the Templars do. And they perform a ceremony where they symbolically kill the person and then raise them back to life. And the Templars perform the same ceremony. And the Egyptians perform the same ceremony.

Danny Jones Podcast

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This is echoed everywhere. Exactly. And we believe it was one of the initial rites of Atlantis. And the reason why we believe that is because there is a certain hand grip that you're given when you're raised from that. And that hand grip is universal. attached with that death and raising ceremony. And the only way that could be is if they had all get it from the same place.

Danny Jones Podcast

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In fact, the Hopi have a myth. They say at one point in time, all the different people of the world were together and that the great spirit gave them this secret hand grip to recognize each other by, and then sent them off in different directions. And that the Hopi ended up settling where they are now in Arizona.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And that they say when the first conquistadors came across the land, they went to give them the grip. and the key stores just dropped trinkets in their hands and they knew there was going to be problems because one of the races of man had forgotten the grip. But the Templars have passed on that grip. What is it? How does it work? Oh, I can't tell you that. It's a secret. It's a secret?

Danny Jones Podcast

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It's a secret. But I'll tell you, it's known by, it's practiced by cultures as diverse as the Hopi, the Maya, The Druze of Lebanon, the Sufi, some Sufi traditions pass it on. The Templars, Templar-based traditions pass it on, including the Freemasons. And it's all the same. Does Randall know this handshake? Yeah, he does. Does he? Yeah. And why do you guys keep it a secret?

Danny Jones Podcast

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And in this text, it talks about King Solomon's flying ship and how King Solomon would fly from Jerusalem to Ethiopia in his flying ship. Who wrote this? It's an ancient Coptic text. What's the name of the text? The Kebra Nagast. Kebra Nagast.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Because people have to prove themselves before they're able to go through that initiation rite. I mean, it's not something you just do on somebody. First of all, you wouldn't do that initiation rite on somebody. They could wildly misinterpret it. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, you're symbolically killing the person. With the handshake? No. Oh. You symbolically kill them. Pull this back a little bit.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah. You symbolically kill them. And then if you do it right, they have an out-of-body experience. So at that point, they know. that who they really are transcends the physical body.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And then there's no more fear of death, which is why so many people who've gone through this have gone on to become great leaders, because they weren't afraid of speaking the truth and of doing things that could get them killed. Because worst case scenario, you die. But you know you still survive.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, they all went through it. Yeah. And it's wild to think about. And it's a Templar rite. It's a Templar initiation rite that was being done by Templars clear back in the 1100s. They learned of it.

Danny Jones Podcast

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uh we still perform this initiation right in the great pyramid you perform it in the great pyramid yeah to this day you guys like rent out the whole pyramid yeah they just give it to us for the night and we about once or twice a year we do we do this initiation how can i go what if how do i get uh

Danny Jones Podcast

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Well, you'd have to join a Masonic lodge to go through that. But there are other Templar traditions that you can go through that you don't have to become a Mason to go through it. Oh, okay. But, yeah, we do this. Napoleon received this initiation in the Great Pyramid. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he refused to talk about what he experienced for the rest of his life.

Danny Jones Podcast

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He told people he wouldn't believe me anyways.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember the exact date. It was 18... I want to say... I don't know. I'd have to look it up. But we have the exact date in the archives of when he went through it in the Great Pyramid. But... Yeah, this initiation rite that's done in the Great Pyramid has been done, is echoed in different ways in different traditions all over the world.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The Mayans performed the exact same ceremony. And in fact... I first thought, I remember when I first saw it, when I went down and met with Maya down in the Yucatan, and they allowed me to see their initiation rites because I gave them this grip, right, this handshake. And so they knew I knew, right? So they allowed me to participate. And when I first saw it, I thought,

Danny Jones Podcast

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and it's uh kebra yeah kebra nagas it's it's ethiopian nagas yeah it's the ethiopian text oh here you go yep and in it it talks about king solomon's flying ship and how he would travel in a few hours which would what would normally take people several days can you find when this was when was this written you know Well, it was first discovered and translated in English in the 1700s, early 1700s.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Oh, they must have learned this from the Templars when the Templars were coming over here and trading with them. But, in fact, then they took me to a... They had like a – it's kind of sad. They had recently taken apart one of their pyramids in order to use the stones to build fences for their property in the jungle, which is kind of a sad commentary.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But in the processes of taking apart the pyramid, they found all these artifacts on the pyramid. And so they took a – They created like a mobile home and they turned it into a, like a little mini museum where they could house the artifacts.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And in this, they took me to this, uh, this little museum and in it, they, they had all these sculptures that they pulled out of the pyramid that were depicting, um, scenes from their initiation rite. And modern archaeologists have actually been able to carbon date those statues, and they go back to about 900 of our current era, which means that's long before the Templars ever came over. Right?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Because the Templars weren't even founded until 1096. So these were dated 200 years before the Templar order was ever founded. Which means they were doing these initiation rites before the Templars ever came over. Which means that they were passing on a tradition that was the same tradition that the Egyptians were doing. That's where the that's where the

Danny Jones Podcast

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you know, through different lineages out of the Egyptians ultimately coming to the Templars. That's how the Templars got it. So it means it's a universal thing that was being practiced all over the world, which means it all had to have come from a common source. Right. Which seems to suggest Atlantis. Right. Yeah, it's the common source. Wow.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Because both the Mayans and the Egyptians talk about it. That's where Plato learned of it.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Is that for real? Yeah, it's for real. That's one of the things that's in these vaults that we got. So we got two vaults. We used to have seven vaults. One of them used to be... You're talking about the... The Templar Order. The Templar Order, okay. Yeah, so when they came over, they set up a series of vaults.

Danny Jones Podcast

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One of them was actually at Oak Island, but where the show Oak Island is, they keep digging. Everything, all the major stuff was moved out of there by 1765. So, I mean, they may find some coins or maybe a few things in there, but, but all the major stuff was moved out of that vault, uh, uh, back in 1765. Um, I hate to hate to break it, but that that's, that's why they haven't found anything yet.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Um, but, uh, There used to be seven vaults. They've since been condensed into two vaults. And in these vaults, we have the six arks that we acquired, as well as several different ossuaries of bones, ostensibly of Jesus, Mary Magdalene, John the Baptist, and their children. So what appears is that Mary Magdalene, who was a wealthy – she was a wealthy woman.

Danny Jones Podcast

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She kind of was a patron and became the wife of John the Baptist, and they had children. Well, then when John the Baptist was killed – Jesus was like the next in command basically to, to lead that movement. And, uh, so Mary Magdalene, because he was the cousin of, of, uh, John the Baptist, Jesus, Jesus was the cousin of John the Baptist. It was lawful for Mary Magdalene to remarry, uh,

Danny Jones Podcast

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He had done it for the Scottish Royal Society. uh but the text is believed to be you know quite ancient and something that was preserved by the coptic church there and uh but the fact that it talks about king solomon's flying ship That's really what is being emphasized in the ritual.

Danny Jones Podcast

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the cousin, right, in order to stay in the family. So she remarried Jesus, and then they had children. And so this was their tomb, we believe it was the Talpiot tomb of East Jerusalem, that the order had originally found back in the Middle Ages, and they removed all the bones, and they placed within it three skulls, kind of as... guardians to mark the space.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Uh, they placed them in the East, the West and the South of the tomb. And, um, as markers or, or wardens of the, of the tomb. And then they took all the bones out and, uh, Yeah, that's part of what we brought over to the new world, as well as other things that we found.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, I've seen some of it. You've seen it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real? For real, yeah. In the vaults? In the vaults, yeah. Well, I know one of them. So you've seen the arcs and you've seen the bones? I've seen early photos of them from the last time they were opened, and I know exactly where the vaults are. Stephen, lock the doors.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Would have been about 40 years ago. we're looking at opening one of them soon. Actually. Uh, I think, you know, we're, we're planning on it. I'm working with Scott Walter and, uh, who's, you know, the chief forensic geologist who, um, has the expertise and has been searching this stuff as an, you know, ever since he started studying the Kensington runestone. Um, we have, uh,

Danny Jones Podcast

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But we know exactly where these vaults are. And one of them, we probably won't be able to open anytime soon because of where it's located. But the other one, we're thinking about opening again soon, like within the next year or two. And then making that. known to the world. So the vault that you went to.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The Vatican knows – there's several vaults around the world. Actually, the Vatican tried to break into one of the vaults a few years ago. There's a vault also in Istanbul that was an old Templar vault. It has – this one is – the one in Istanbul, it actually has one of those boxes like in the Serapium. But it's down underground, and there's certain artifacts that are in it.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And the order was protecting that for a long time. Now, Turkish antiquities protects it. But they know about it, and they keep us informed, too, about it. But a few years ago, the Vatican tried to break into it. Yeah. So they're, they're, they're, they're hunting for these things. But they don't know where this is.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Not yet, but that's something we want to do. That's part of the – And how would you confirm or deny that it was from Jesus? Well, we know – how should I say this? This is sensitive information – So there are, as I understand it, certain fragments that exist that were found recently in the Talpiot tomb. Where's that? In the Osso area. It's in East Jerusalem.

Danny Jones Podcast

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This is originally where these bones came from back during the time of the Crusades. That's where they pulled them out of. So we would be able to match... assuming the story all lines up with what our history has said and the ship logs and everything else, we would be able to verify that these bones match in DNA to the fragments that they've found in the Talpiot tomb recently, first of all.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So here's this Masonic ritual from the 1700s that is emphasizing King Solomon's flying ship that would allow you to go from Jerusalem to Ethiopia by flying. Very interesting. And fun. Yeah. Very fun. And there's actually areas around the Middle East where there's big mesas that are known as the Thrones of Solomon.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And then that would, place them with that. And then at that point, any other genetic testing would be, you know, could be done publicly so that people are aware of everything. We're not trying to hide it. We've just been trying to protect it. It was very much understood when this tomb was discovered, which had the names of Jesus and Mary Magdalene and John the Baptist on the ossuaries, that –

Danny Jones Podcast

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That if these had been turned over to the Vatican, that they would have just disappeared, you know. If they'd been turned over to the Pope, they would have made them disappear because it is – It is contrary to the Christian faith. Right. Right? Right. If at least the modern interpretation. Yes. Now, from a Templar standpoint, there's no contradiction because the Templars believe that the –

Danny Jones Podcast

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The resurrection, again, was the anastasis. It was just the awakening to gnosis. So there wasn't necessarily a bodily resurrection to begin with. And from a Templar perspective, we also believe in reincarnation. And we believe that there are passages in the New Testament that justify reincarnation. And so...

Danny Jones Podcast

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to us the you know being born again is literally just being born again you know i mean um and uh and that one of the mysteries the mystery of one of the mysteries of the christos that universal consciousness is realizing that uh a, you don't ever really die. Right. You, you, you just change, you know, your, your soul lives on and, uh, and B you can reincarnate and, uh, and that, uh,

Danny Jones Podcast

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it's all part of that universal consciousness as we go in and out of that. And it's all about that universal consciousness coming to know itself in new ways. And this is why, by the way, this is why even in the New Testament, the disciples, they go to Jesus and they say, Jesus, the people are saying that the prophet Elias has come back.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And Jesus says, well, he has come back, but most people don't recognize who he is. And then it says, and then the disciples understood he was referring to John the Baptist.

Danny Jones Podcast

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well that's implying that the prophet elias that john the baptist is the reincarnation of the prophet elias right because we know who john the baptist's parents were so we know he was born right so if he if he's coming back if he's the prophet elias coming back then that means he's the reincarnation of the prophet Elias. Right? But that's not how it's normally taught in churches. Right?

Danny Jones Podcast

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Or in Christian doctrine. But it's right there in the New Testament. And so, to Templars, it's not a problem that we found the bones. Right? It doesn't mean that Jesus doesn't still exist. It just means he's reincarnated in some other form. You know?

Danny Jones Podcast

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wow man this has been oh what do we got patreon we got some people on patreon ask you some questions oh yeah we're gonna wrap up the podcast thank you again for doing this great this was mind-bending a lot of information yeah all over the place where can people um find you online and and get in touch with you if they want to uh they can well they can certainly find me on facebook um uh timothy w hogan or also there's a timothy hogan page um

Danny Jones Podcast

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uh author page you can find me on you can also find me on instagram uh you can find me on uh uh uh twitter or x uh cool yeah just shoot me the links and i'll put them in the uh in the show notes below sounds good sweet all right man we're going hopping over to patreon that's linked below if y'all want to check it out good night world

Danny Jones Podcast

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And according to the local legend, that's where Solomon would land his ship was on top of these mesas. Oh, really? Yeah, these big plateaus. What kind of ship do you think it was? I don't know. I can only guess. What's your best guess? Well, I will say this. King Solomon was known in particular for the manufacturing of manna in the Bible. Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast

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mana was this mysterious subject substance um in fact it says that king solomon received 666 talents of gold a year in exchange for this and uh that number 666 in the ancient world was the number of transformation so um

Danny Jones Podcast

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as a templar we're pretty sure we know what that mana is and it's uh it's gold that's been converted into a monoatomic state uh where it turns into this white powder that's uh the egyptians have depicted all over their their temple walls and uh this mana

Danny Jones Podcast

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Adults totally freaked me out. I didn't know what was going on. I was put before this council. They basically said that I had fulfilled my duties of becoming a page and I had to take an oath of chivalry. And then I had to kneel and they dubbed me as a page.

Danny Jones Podcast

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is super conductive when it's converted to this state and it causes things to weigh less uh like a container holding the mana will weigh less than a container filled with nothing the same container filled with nothing so it's causing a some a weight displacement or an anti-gravity effect

Danny Jones Podcast

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And this is why the mana was stored in the Ark of the Covenant, which would have weighed several tons, but two people could carry it with rods, right? Because it was causing the weight displacement. And we find the same word mana all over the ancient world associated with flying craft.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So like in India, these flying craft that are found in the Vedic tests are known as Vimana. In ancient Sumer, the flying craft that the Anunnaki or the sky gods were flying around in were known as Shimana. We find the same word in Polynesian cultures as being mana. And they said the mana was used to move their giant Moai sculptures and stuff. In...

Danny Jones Podcast

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In Buddhist traditions, it's not called mana, but it's called mani. Or chintamani.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, they have to, in order to trace Hebrew, you have to go back to Egyptian. Now, there's a lot of... Jewish listeners who may not like that idea, just because there's been tension between Egypt and Israel over the centuries. But in fact, if you look at the Egyptian hieroglyphs, so if you look at the letter hieroglyphs, the hieroglyphs for each letter,

Danny Jones Podcast

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For example, the letter M in Egyptian hieroglyphs is an owl, right? The hieroglyph is an owl. Well, you can trace that into the Phoenician, which is like the cousins of the Egyptians. And in the Phoenician, the letter M looks like the top of the owl's head. And then if you take that Phoenician, it becomes Hebrew.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And the letter Mem in Hebrew looks just like that owl head that came from the Phoenicians. You can trace it directly. You can do that with all the letters. And there's a lot of words in... in the Egyptian, ancient Egyptian that are the same today in Hebrew. Interesting. Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So it's, it actually goes back to the Egyptian, but, um, an example of that is, um, for example, in, in ancient Egypt, the word for truth is Mott. All right. Mott means a truth or universal order. Um, and, uh, and in hebrew the word for truth is mott so it's the same word and in fact uh uh the word for uh i'm sorry i'm sorry mott mott was the the word the word for truth in hebrew is amat emmett

Danny Jones Podcast

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But I will tell you, as an eight-year-old, when you see a guy coming up in front of you and you're kneeling and he has a big sword, I thought I was going to be like a sacrifice or something. It was terrifying at first. Did you have to kiss the silver head? No, I didn't have to kiss the silver head. But they, you know, they... They dubbed me, and that was the beginning of the journey. Wow.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But it's very similar to mat. And in ancient Egyptian, mat was also a goddess who presided over the dead. And the word for death in Hebrew is mat. So it's tied in. It's just people aren't used to looking at it that way.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Well, I think we all acknowledge it goes back to that. I mean, so one of the things that happened is when the Templar order was formed, it was formed about 1096. By 1118, it was setting up shop in Jerusalem. And then from there, they went down into Egypt, and they set up a commandery at the Temple of Isis at Philae.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And in fact, if you go to the Temple of Isis at Philae to this day, there's Templar crosses carved all throughout the temple. So you'll see the Egyptian hieroglyphs and stuff, and then you'll see the Templars put in their crosses, too, to mark their territory. And then from there, they spread out to all the major temples in Egypt, and they were doing study and research.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And in fact, there's even a room. If you go to the Temple of Seti I at Abydos, there's a room there that is closed to the public. But if you're able to get into it, it has a depiction on the wall of one of these arcs, like the Ark of the Covenant, that the Egyptians were transporting. It shows a pharaoh, presumably Seti I, holding his hand out with a...

Danny Jones Podcast

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A mound cake of this white mana, which was this monoatomic substance. And then you'll see graffiti of three red Templar crosses done clear back in the 1100s around the arc. that was depicted on the wall. Are there images we can find on the internet of this? Yeah. Well, no. I have images of it. You do? Yeah. I don't have any way. I don't know how I can get it to you right now.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Yeah, that room is not open to the public.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Uh... There's a couple reasons. One is because of the red Templar crosses on it. The Muslims, you know, it's a Muslim country still. Egypt's still a Muslim country. And they're not comfortable with the cross being depicted anywhere. Really? Yeah. That's one. Because they don't believe that Jesus died on the cross. Right. In the Koran, it says that someone else was...

Danny Jones Podcast

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It says that the people were taken in by an appearance. But... Oh, here we go. Hang on. So this is you. Yeah, and then you see those three red crosses on the wall? Yeah. And then between them, I mean, it's... It's pretty faded, but... He can zoom. Yeah, if you go up between the crosses, the three crosses, that's an ark right there. Oh, sure. An ark? Yeah, ark, like the Ark of the Covenant.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So how is it an ark? Well, so it's a box. Oh, I see. Yeah, that is. The Ark of the Covenant is in there? Right. That's the Ark of the Covenant. I mean, that's, well, it's a Ark of the Covenant. I mean, the Ark of the Covenant in the Bible was based on these arks that you find throughout Egypt. All the temples of Egypt at one point in time had one of these boxes.

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And we believe, from a Templar perspective, we believe these boxes were electrostatic capacitors. And that they were a remnant of a lost technology from a pre-civilization like Atlantis. Really? Yeah. And that they were brought to Egypt to be preserved during the last cataclysm. And Egypt had these in all of their temples at one point in time.

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Yeah, it was unique. I wasn't the only one going through it, but it was... Yeah, I mean, we were given, you know, started out, you know, we were taught to certain virtues that we're supposed to embody. You know, it wasn't anything too esoteric.

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Well, we have six. The Temple Order has six right now buried in vaults here in the United States. But there are others out there. I mean, there's supposedly one in Ethiopia right now. at a church in Ethiopia. And how do they work? What they do is they're built of multiple layers of acacia wood and gold. And they just start to build up static electricity within them.

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And when you put that mana in there, which is that, there's the, There's the... It's the ancient helicopter? Yeah, the middle. On the right. Yeah, right there. Right there, yeah. God, that looks just like a helicopter, huh? Right. You can see another little... You can see some other... Is that real?

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Yeah. No, that's there at Abydos. It's at the Temple of City I. Whoa. It's on a pillar. Whoa.

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uh high it's high up but it's near the entrance of the temple and yeah so can you zoom in on that again steve or another one maybe a bigger one yeah so check this out because this one up here has like a bow that is not the same that's not what it looks like i know it's not it's so weird oh here's another one yeah no that's not super low res you know what i'll search for high you have to click on it then zoom in on it bro

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Yeah, it's kind of hard to photograph it, too, because it's up pretty high.

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It's almost like... So you can clearly see what looks like the Apache helicopter.

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It was very, you know, how do you perform humble service and how do you act with humility and meekness in the world and don't take yourself too seriously and how do you, do things without want or need of recognition, that type of deal.

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Yeah, yeah. Well, so it's got a wing, so it's almost like a fat plane. And then down below it is a... It almost looks like that thing that Luke Skywalker was in in the first movie. Do we know when this was carved? Is there any way to find that out? I mean, there's the standard archaeological explanation, and then there's the alternative theory. The alternative theory suggests that it's...

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But there's got to be somewhere to date. There's no way to carbon date this. There's no way to carbon date it. Carbon dating is based on when things were burned in the area. Things have been burned in the area for forever. But some of the earliest pharaohs are actually buried in the backyard of this temple, so to speak. And right below the temple...

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Like literally in the backyard of this temple is another area that's known as the Osirian. And the Osirian is arguably the oldest temple.

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megalithic structure in egypt that place is crazy looking totally crazy it's all fit together like jigsaw puzzle and it's uh you remember steve do you remember when we had the snake bros on here oh yeah and they were showing us all those cuts of the osirian yeah and then the the water they don't know where the water is coming from i think it's probably a natural spring or something yeah because it's they originally they thought it was nile water but it's not nile water and it goes down

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I mean, from what you see is just at the top of water level, but the water level goes down another 40 feet.

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Well, and those are, you know, you have to keep in mind that each one of those stones is almost 100 tons, you know? I mean, the big ones.

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So this is like basically the backyard of the Temple of Seti I at Abydos. And then the temple was built up above it. And in that temple, that's where they had one of these arks that the Templars found.

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Yeah. And that's also where those hieroglyphs are. There you go. Of the helicopter. Is that it? Yeah.

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No, they don't know, to be honest. I mean, they know it's rose granite. They know it comes from Aswan, which is 500 miles away. Yeah. And, you know, not only that, but you have to go over a mountain range. Right. And then back down to the Nile if you're going to transport them. There's a lot of mystery surrounding it. And it's...

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And later, you know, it became a little more esoteric because then you realize that what you're being humbled to is really your own higher self, your own higher spirit, you know, your own

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to this day i mean it's uh they don't know where the water's coming from i'm i'm assuming it's a natural spring yeah but but again so at that level where you're seeing it that water level it goes down 40 feet right even below that you know so it's it's a huge structure yeah it sounds scuba scuba team down there yeah see what's down there yeah It's I, I am under the opinion. This is just my.

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my conjecture, that they were taking the water from there, they're bringing it up into the temple up above, and they were doing alchemical processes in that temple. And they were extracting from it these mono-atomic elements that would go into the ark, which would generate tremendous power. That's my take on it. Now, as far as cutting those stones,

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There is a process, and I recently revealed this to the Egyptian Antiquities. there's a plant that grows near a lot of the monuments in Egypt, and its scientific name was dictapetalum. And if you do these alchemical processes to it that are taught within Freemasonry, where you, you know, if you were to do that to acacia, you could extract DMT. But if you do it to this dictapetalum,

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what you extract is hydrofluoric acid. And hydrofluoric acid eats through granite. It melts granite. It melts the silica and the granite. And the only thing that stops that hydrofluoric acid are gold, lead, and beeswax. They can't burn through gold, lead, or beeswax? Correct. So I think, well, I know what they probably did with a lot of the etching on granite was they would create a beeswax...

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uh the the the person you're striving to be you know um and uh and uh if you you know if you listen to that then things usually work out well for you and then how did you end up being a grand master yeah so that took a lot of time so i went through a lot of different orders a lot of different degrees

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They'd pour beeswax over it, and then they'd cut out and create a template for what they wanted to be burned into the granite. And then they'd just put a wash of the hydrofluoric acid on it, and it would eat away into it and etch it. I think this is also, if you go to Dendera, the Temple of Hathor at Dendera, there's these staircases that appear to be melted.

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And there's all kinds of conjecture about how they got melted. I think it was a hydrofluoric acid spill because they were doing that etching on the walls going up the staircase. And they must have had a spill and it just melted the stairs.

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So I'm the Grand Master. I'm the Grand Master of the Order of the Sovereign Temple of Initiates, which is just like a modern conglomerate of different Templar lineages. When I say lineages, when the Templar Order was suppressed in 1307, it had to go underground. And it survived in different pockets.

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I think there's something to that. They got these giant boxes down there, too, below the step pyramid. And they have almost like a cork on them. It's a stone cork. And you can tell they were like a pressure cooker type of deal at one point in time. So that steam could escape out. But if you tried to pull a cork out, it wouldn't let you do it. Right.

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Quite possibly. I mean, you have to remember our, I mean, Chem or Chemit was the ancient name for Egypt.

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And that's where we get alchemy from, and then from there came chemistry. Right. But it all goes back to...

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I studied a lot of different traditions, and eventually I joined an organization that was known as Circe's International, which was a French tradition. It's a French Templar tradition. You didn't know it was a Templar tradition until you were in it for a while.

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I think that was the hydrofluoric acid that I was talking about. Yeah, I think that's exactly what they were using. And in fact, we even find, if you go to Aswan, the quarry, where they got all the stone from, you can find the pocking from the acid in certain areas to this day around there. And then even the... the unfinished obelisk at Aswan that has those scoop marks going down the sides of it.

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And I think that was just where they would pour the acid down, you know, and under it too. Right. And under it. Yeah. And then they, that's how they would start to shape it. And, uh,

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yeah i'm sure that's what was going on so back to the ark of the covenant yeah you said there's six that we have yeah there's six right now that we so are there any pictures of them online no no no why are they so secret uh they were moved here well first of all they were moved here by uh the late the latest ones were moved here by about 13 1346, thereabouts.

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what happened is that the order found the temple order found all these, they found six of these arcs. Um, there was probably a hundred in antiquity. I mean, just based on the fact that every temple in Egypt had one, uh, at one point in time. Um, and, and which is clearly depicted on the temple walls all over Egypt. Um, but, uh,

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Anyhow, the Templar Order gradually amassed six of these things as well as other artifacts. And they spent time bringing them up into Portugal, into Scotland, where they were able to – into France at one point in time before they were suppressed. And then they were making secret travels over to the New World of the Americas. And they had, by...

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The time the order was suppressed by 1314, completely suppressed by the Roman church, they had already mapped all of North America by that time. And they brought these artifacts over and started, they formed alliances with certain indigenous native tribes here in the Americas and They hid all this stuff. Part of the reason why Spain was so active in suppressing

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All these indigenous native groups here in the Americas, when they started coming over, it's because they were looking for these artifacts. And they knew that the Templars had alliances with the indigenous natives. In fact, this is even the reason why when Columbus came over, he flew Templar crosses on his people. on his ship sails because he knew the natives would recognize him.

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And he was trying to trick them so he could find those treasures for Spain. And that's why Spain funded him. Oh, wow. Yeah. So he had – Columbus had – he had actually – figured out that there was something going on on the other side of the Atlantic, he ended up

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But then what they did is they, I went through, I became a grand preceptor and then I became a grand commander, which was basically in charge of a region. So like the region I was in charge of was North America. There's no grand wizards, are there? No grand wizards. Nothing like that. No, total opposite of KKK.

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pulling one of the grandmaster's daughters actually out of a convent and marrying her to try to get the maps to get over to the new world ambitious fella yeah i mean he was he was driven uh and then he went to portugal and said fund me to go to the new world and of course they were like We already know there's land on the other side.

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We've been traveling there because Portugal was largely founded as a Templar state. And they were like, no, thanks. So then he went to Portugal's enemy, which was Spain. And, of course, Spain was happy to fund him. Right.

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Yeah, it builds up static electricity, especially when this mana, which is a monoatomic gold, is inside of it. What it does is that monoatomic gold is superconductive. Monoatomic gold. Yeah, so as it starts to build up... static, then it's discharged through the top of it, where the little angels are, their wings on top of the Ark of the Covenant. It discharges electricity.

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And of course, to the ancient people, they saw this as magic. They saw this as... the presence of God. But there's also why, even in the Bible, it says you couldn't touch the Ark of the Covenant, because if you did, you would die. Because it would shock you to death, right?

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And the only way to discharge that electricity is you'd have to take a rod, like Aaron's rod that's described in the Old Testament or the Torah. You ground it and drop it against the ark, and it would cause all that electricity to become grounded. So then you could open it up. But if you didn't do that, it could shock you.

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This is also why, if you remember, I don't know how much biblical history you know, but like in the Torah or the Old Testament, it talks about Moses built this tabernacle in the wilderness to house the Ark of the Covenant. And he built this tabernacle out of all these wool curtains, right? And all these wool, this wool tent. Well, wool is also a collector of static electricity.

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So all that did is it just allowed the All that static electricity that the tabernacle was building up from the desert would then become condensed in the ark itself, which would then cause this static discharge regularly. Yeah.

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I think there's a lot of metaphor that gets... The story of Noah is a good example. I mean... You know, we know there's flood myths all over the world, and the Noah story is just one of them. But in the story of Noah, there's a – It's obviously the earth is – people become corrupt, they say, and then a flood happens, right?

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In fact, the grand commander before me was a black man by the name of Dr. Onslow Wilson. Oh, really?

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Which wipes out civilization and then Noah and maybe a few other people survive it. But in that story, and that was written, when was that was first written in a Septuagint? Correct. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. For Genesis. Yeah. One of the early books of Genesis.

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Yeah, and it was originally written, it was called the Septuagint because it was originally written in Greek. Yes. And then they translated it back into Hebrew, which is kind of interesting. Oh, wow. That's not, that's, a lot of people don't like, a lot of people don't say that.

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greek has like a thousand times more words yeah well and there's you know i mean you know the the the common story is that the greeks were concerned that hebrew was going to become lost And that those stories were going to become lost. So they wrote them out in Greek in order to preserve them. And then from there it got translated back into Hebrew. So third century B.C. is roughly.

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Oh yeah, there's black folks, there's women, there's you name it. So Native American, indigenous Native Americans.

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There's some argument for that because there are words in Hebrew, for example, that you find in those books like the word shibboleth. Shibboleth has come to mean a password or it's come to mean a – This is a Hebrew word? Yeah, a waterford, a place where a waterford is in Hebrew. But it's come to mean that. But that word is actually a Greek word.

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It comes from shibbol, which is to conquer or victory, and lith, which is stone. So shibboleth is to conquer a stone or to – and that's the real meaning of the word in Greek. Yeah. So that's one of those examples where there was a Greek that was put in there that just was kept in Hebrew, and then it became something else. So there are things like that. Do you know what Christ means in Greek?

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Yeah, Christos is – universal consciousness, but it's also, uh, it's also tied to, to the Kratos, which is the, uh, real is the root.

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To apply a drug to your eyes. I haven't heard that one. So that they may be open. Interesting. That's cool, though. I think there's something to that. From a Gnostic standpoint, that fits real well. Because there were a lot of Greek words that the Gnostics interpreted very differently than how modern Christians do. For example, the word resurrection.

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Well, it wasn't even like that. It's like they got me in this program as a kid that I went through till I got to an adult, the age of an adult. And, uh, then I, uh, I started, I was trying to figure out where this was all coming from, you know, like they didn't say it was Templar based. They didn't say Templars started this tradition. They just, it was just this, this thing that I went through.

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comes from the Greek word anastasis. So in the Greek New Testament, the word that's usually translated into English as resurrection is the word anastasis. But anastasis actually just means to wake up. It's the opposite of stasis. So stasis means to sleep. Anastasis is to wake up. So the Gnostics interpreted anastasis That is something very different than a bodily resurrection.

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They interpret it as waking up to gnosis or divine experiential knowledge.

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And survive. You know, the Hopi of, you know, the area of Arizona, they have a similar rite where they have a –

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they have a snake dance where you can become a brotherhood of the snake and where they would, uh, they would actually, they take a rattlesnake and they hold it in their mouth and they dance with this rattlesnake in their mouth and they have a, they have an Eagle feather that they, they kinda, um,

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stroke the the snake with to keep it calm while they're dancing and then at the end of the of the dance they ingest the the poison from the from the rattlesnake and Now, prior to this, they've been building up antibodies from the snake poison. But then they drink, actually, some of the snake poison. And if they survive it, then they're in the brotherhood of the snake at that point.

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But it's a similar idea. Yeah, very similar idea. That's interesting. I'm going to have to look.

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It was the Hopi. The Hopi? Yeah, it's the Hopi, the snake dance. It's a rattlesnake dance.

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Sure, yeah. Yeah, I think that was actually an initiation that was going on.

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And, uh, But then by the time I got an adult, I started looking into it more, and I started realizing there was this whole other movement behind it. And I remember one of my first things I was going to do was I was going to go... I realized it was somewhat connected with Freemasonry. Yes. So at 18, I was like, well, I'm going to go try to...

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Maybe. I will say that throughout the ancient world, it was not uncommon for... During the initiation rites, and you still find it within some traditions to this day, the new initiate is dressed in white linen, is divested of all their earthly clothes, everything that makes them distinct and gives them identity in the world.

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They're divested of all of that, any metals that they have on them, and they're made to put on a white linen for initiation. And that's common. And to me, it makes more sense. That's what Jesus was doing with that calf.

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Of course, yeah. I mean, you see a half-naked kid, you know, in a cave with an adult. I mean, of course, he's going to look like a pet. You know what I mean? But it was probably an initiation rite, and I'm sure it was. And there's a number of things within the New Testament which point to Jesus, or at least –

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whether he did this or not, or whether the early Christians grafted it onto the Bible to make it seem this way. I mean, we don't know. Right. Uh, but, but seems to suggest that Jesus was, was passing on an Egyptian initiation tradition. And I'll give you an example of this. Um, The Lord's prayer that everyone who goes to church knows about, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.

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Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. You know, that whole thing. That originally comes from the papyrus of Ani in ancient Egypt. And it was a prayer to Amun, the god Amun. And it began, Amun, Amun, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, as above, so below. Give us this day our daily bread.

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It's the same thing, almost word for word. And then it ends with Amun, which, of course, is... where we get the word amen from. So Amun in ancient Egyptian means the hidden one, and it represented the hidden power. And this is why in the New Testament, when Jesus gives this prayer, first of all, the disciples go to him and they say, Jesus, how should we pray? And he says, well, first of all,

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don't go to church and be seen praying like a hypocrite. That's what he says. They never quote that part of church, right? He says, instead, find a hidden place in your home like a closet. Go in there and give this prayer. And then he gives the Lord's Prayer. So he's telling the disciples to become the hidden one, to go hide in a closet somewhere in their home and give this prayer.

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Which literally a moon is the prayer to a moon which which literally means the hidden one so this is just one example of many in the New Testament where Early Christianity or Jesus himself was quite literally borrowing from this Egyptian tradition and was trying to preserve it and I

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go down to a Masonic lodge and see, you know, if I, if I could get in and, and, uh, and, uh, what that's about, what the connection is. And I remember I was in college and I went to my mom's house and I was doing laundry in her house. And, uh, I said, you know, I'm thinking about, um, becoming a Freemason potentially. And my mom said, oh, you know, everybody in your family belongs to that.

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i mean and other examples are um you know the gold frankincense and myrrh that jesus received as a baby those are what every pharaoh is buried with gold frankincense and myrrh correct yeah uh it's uh and they they all had they all had symbolic meanings to themselves but the fact that uh um

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You know, the three wise men were probably the three stars of Orion's belt, which pointed to where the sun rose on December 25th. And those three stars of Orion's belt, Orion itself was associated with the god Osiris. And he was the one that there was the same story of him being born in a cave surrounded by animals. He was presenting gold frankincense and myrrh.

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I mean, this was all ancient Egyptian stuff that then got grafted onto the New Testament by clearly the people who did it were Christians. trying to perpetuate that Egyptian tradition.

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Mary's another, that's a common Egyptian name that you find.

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Yeah. He was kind of a perv, man. Yeah, there were a lot of Gnostic and apocryphal texts that suggest all kinds of interesting things with Jesus and Mary and others. I mean, some people believe... Yeah, I happen to be under the opinion that – and Timothy Freak covers this quite well in his books, The Jesus Mysteries, and also Jesus and the Goddess. Timothy Freak? Yeah.

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Timothy Freak and Peter Gandy, they did a number of good books. But one of the hypotheses is related to the Apostle Paul. that Paul, For the most part, he has these writings where he's speaking like a Gnostic, like he experiences Christ as a vision of light on the road to Damascus, right? Which is a very Gnostic thing. It said he was taken up to the third heaven.

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You should talk to your grandfather. And I was like, what? I had no clue. And so then I went and talked to my grandfather, found out my other grandfather was also very much involved. I found out my dad had been involved. And then it just kind of went from there. And

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Well, most people are like, know what heaven is, but what's the third heaven? Right? And we know that Damascus was actually a code word used by the Essenes for their base in Qumran. And so it may suggest that Paul was an Essene and that the third heaven was

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there were three levels of initiation or baptism that was designed to cleanse the person of all the bad stuff that they had attached to them as they incarnated into this world. So there's a baptism by water, there's a baptism by air, and then a baptism by fire. And we find this going back way back into the ancient world.

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I mean, going back to Noah's Ark, you know, in the story of Noah's Ark, grafted onto that story of the earth obsessed with its physical senses. Along comes a flood, water. Then Noah lets birds go into the air. And then he lands on Mount Ararat and makes a burnt sacrifice to God, fire. So those are the three stages of purification, if you will, which is done in the alchemical process.

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But it was also used in the baptismal rites and the initiation rites in the ancient world. So the third heaven would be that he had gone through those three different purifications, right? Well, along comes a bishop known as Arrhenius, who wrote a book called Against the Heresies, much later, where he was trying to condemn Gnosticism.

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And lo and behold, all of a sudden, at the same time, they discovered these new letters of Paul, where Paul is condemning Gnosticism. And the suggestion is that the church, in particular Arrhenius, created these letters of Paul specifically to justify suppressing Gnosticism, which was a rival perspective of Christianity than what the Roman Church was setting up at the time.

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And hence why Paul seems like this... Now, Paul's gospel was the closest one to Christ? Well, it's... You know, supposedly... Paul never actually knew Jesus, right, when he was alive. And yet the entire canon of the Roman church was largely based off of Paul.

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Well, they say it's Matthew. Matthew. They don't really know for sure. I mean, there's Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Right. The standard gospels. And, you know, you have some of them are kind of similar. And then you have John, which is like totally out there and somewhat Gnostic in itself. Yeah.

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Within Freemasonry, there's the standard, what's known as the Blue Lodge, which is three degrees of where someone becomes a Master Mason. And then once they become a Master Mason, they can go into what's known as the York Rite or the Scottish Rite. And both of these systems have a whole other series of degrees of But both of them culminate in Knight Templar degrees. And so I did that.

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Well, yeah, I mean, they have found fragments, the Natchamundi fragments and the Dead Sea Scrolls, and all of these texts seem to point to source texts that –

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yeah we're within a hundred years of after jesus supposedly lived um but we don't know for sure i mean it's it's a guess yeah you know everyone's speculating and uh yeah there's a um there's a bunch of i had a guy in here who's been studying the dead sea scroll fragments his whole life and uh

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I believe it. I believe it. There's also been some that they haven't released them all. The ones that they found, they kind of gradually release them. And part of that's because every once in a while they get leaked. And as they come out, part of the reason why they don't release them is because they contradict modern theology.

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I mean, there's some great astrological information on some of them, you know, for example.

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That's it. Right. That's right. And then the Nad Shemundi. Some of those texts, I mean, they have some New Testament types of fragments, but they also have hermetic texts, you know, writings of Hermes that were right in there with them too, which suggests that this sect that was preserving this stuff was – they saw them as compatible.

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And that's a whole other can of worms that no one likes to talk about, you know, but the hermetic texts were – How so? Why don't people like to talk about it? I think I'm missing something here. Because Hermeticism was a pagan form of Gnosticism. Oh, okay. And it was centered around Hermes, the Greek god Hermes. Yeah. And the – What was the deal with Hermes again?

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Well, Hermes was, you know, he was kind of the, he was deemed to be the inventor of the word. He created language. He was the messenger amongst the gods. He was the, he did a lot of work associated with talismans, how to bring energies from the stars down into our, and capture them in talismans here on planet Earth. Um, he did, uh, he was, he was the inventor of alchemy.

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Um, and he was, uh, in, in some ways the hermetic texts were, were, could be read in almost a Neo platonic, uh, way, uh, suggesting that, uh, All reality – well, one of the things that the Hermetic texts say is that all reality that we're perceiving is just mind stuff. It's the mind of the creator. Like we're living in the mind of the creator.

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And this matrix that we're in is in the mind of the creator. And it seems solid and real to us, but just as – The creator's thoughts can change, so can matter change. Those Greeks were bombed on drugs, dude. Yeah, but it's right in line with what people like Maxville Plank and Schrodinger and the other physicists of the early 20th century were saying, too. This is all made up of mind stuff.

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No, yeah, you're right about that. You know, so it's just the Greeks were, the Hermeticists were saying it, thousands of years ago. Yeah. You know?

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Well, and you have to remember, too, the root of all that really was Egypt. I mean, all those Greek philosophers were studying in Egypt, you know, before they started doing their stuff. I mean, Pythagoras, I think, spent something like 20 years there in Egypt. And, in fact, his name, Pythagoras, probably comes from ta-go-ras, which was ta was the keeper of the word of creation.

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And go-ras just meant It meant like the word goes forth. That's what it means. The word of power goes forth. That's what his name would have meant in ancient Egyptian. And he's the one who coined the term philosophy. Yeah. You know, literally the word philosophy comes from Pythagoras and comes from philo, which is to love, and sophia, which is wisdom.

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I actually ended up doing both. Became a Knight Templar in the York Rite. Became a 32nd degree Mason in the Scottish Rite. And then... What kind of shit do you have to do to become the high level of a Mason?

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And then the Gnostics later took that same concept of sophia as the... Uh, the, as a, a symbol of the human soul that falls down to this earth gets totally a mess and matter, um, gets lost in it. and then has to find its way out of it and eventually marry the Christos, the universal consciousness.

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And that's what the mystery of the bride chamber really represented, some would say, in the New Testament stuff. You know, it's interesting how...

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For sure. I think there was a lot of Eastern ideas from the Vedic texts. India and Egypt were... like two sides of the same coin, ancient India and ancient Egypt. They were importing philosophy back and forth from each other. And we see this in the Indian traditions, the symbols of the serpent going up the spinal column. You find that same thing in ancient Egypt.

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I mean, there's a reason why on King Tut's King Tutankhamen's crown, you see the serpent coming out of his third eye. Right. Yeah. Which in Egypt. Aramaic, the brow was called the Nazar, and that's really where the word Nazarean probably comes from. Interesting. It had nothing to do with the town of Nazareth. But, yeah, it had to do with that third eye, you know, and those ideas were –

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or the idea that the whole chakra system of, you know, the seven chakra, you find that in, you find that in ancient Egypt as well. What is the chakra? The chakra? Yeah. The seven chakra that go up the spinal column. Oh. And there's seven like psychic centers. And with the third eye being the sixth and the seventh being the crown chakra.

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Yeah, you learn stuff. You have to memorize a bunch of stuff. Like what? Yeah. They give you things to memorize so that that's basically like the outline of the ritual itself. And the reason is if every Mason in the world died tomorrow and you were the last person, you could rebuild the entire system based on what you had memorized. And those degrees have within them. moral instruction, but also

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And this is really what, from a Templar perspective, this is really what Revelations is talking about, the seven seals that need to be opened. And with the opening of each seal, our old perception of the world dies off and our new perception opens up. And if you take the first six chakra, each chakra has a certain number of petals on it. And the first six chakra have a total of 144 petals.

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And then the crown chakra is the thousand-petaled chakra. It's the powerhouse for the other six. So if you times the crown chakra to the other 144, you get 144,000, which is in Revelations, it says 144,000 are saved after the seven seals are opened. Right. This is what it's really alluding to. And these ideas were, you find it in the Vedic tradition, but you also find it in the Egyptian.

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In different areas. And those pockets kind of grew independently. And at different periods of time, they've kind of come back together. And then at other times, they've separated again. So there's... about half a dozen strains of Templar lineages out there. But they all come together in the Order of the Temple of Sovereign Initiates, which I'm the head of.

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And, you know, you find it immersed within the New Testament as well.

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And then above, and by the way, above the crown chakra was known as the eighth sphere, which was known as the Agawad in the Gnostic tradition. And this was symbolically represented by the number 888 or by eight-sided structures. And if you take the name Jesus in Greek – In Greek, every letter corresponds to a number.

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So if you replace the letter for its number equivalent in the name Jesus in Greek, it adds up to 888. So it's actually, his name itself is alluding to the Agawad, the eighth sphere above the seven seals. Interesting. And that's the word Christ or Jesus? The word Jesus. Jesus. Yeah, Jesus in Greek. Yeah, if you look up... Greek Gematria Jesus.

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I'm sure you can find the breakdown of the letters and the numbers they correspond to. Interesting.

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So, yeah, there's all these number codes, you know, that are within both the Old Testament and the New Testament, because Hebrew is the same way. It's alphanumeric. So every letter in Hebrew also corresponds to a number. Like, so Aleph, the first letter of Hebrew is equated with the number one, Bet. uh, or B, uh, is equated with the number two, you know, and so on and so forth.

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So, um, yeah, it was pretty interesting. Yeah. It's super interesting. But this is all stuff that the Templars have been studying for the last thousand years. You know what I mean? Uh, they, they started as they, uh,

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As they started digging, as they went into Jerusalem, by 1118, they were given property in an area that was known as King Solomon's Stables, which was right near the Temple Mount, where the Dome of the Rock is. And they started digging and doing archaeological work. And even though they're Their stated mission was to protect pilgrims coming into the Holy Land, which they did.

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But really what they were doing was archaeological work. They were digging. They were digging all kinds of tunnels under the Temple Mount. And they were finding texts, and they were finding artifacts, and they were bringing this stuff.

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They were confiscating this stuff to protect it, to keep it from falling into the hands of the other crusaders, to keep it from falling into the hand of the invading Muslims. And then with this, they gained knowledge of it going back into Egypt. And so then they went into Egypt and started doing archeological work there. And that's really what they were doing there. They were finding...

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that didn't fit in the standard biblical canon at the time, which was giving him a different perspective. Oh, yeah. And they were meeting with groups like – like the Copts of Egypt, you know, that were practicing a totally separate form of Christianity than the people in Europe were.

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They give you the keys for a number of things, including the science of alchemy, so you can make your own medicines. Oh, yeah? Yeah. And as well as the blueprints for rebuilding civilization, should it collapse again. What kind of medicines can you make, or do you learn to make? Well, you learn the fundamental process of how you can take an herb...

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And they met with groups like the Druze, which were Gnostics that celebrated a number of different prophets, you know, other than what you found just within Christianity, including They venerated Pythagoras and Hermes. And so they learned Pythagorean doctrines and were able to gain Pythagorean knowledge from them and Hermetic doctrines from them and Hermetic understanding.

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They met with the Sabaeans. who were passing on a tradition, some would argue going way back to ancient Egypt, related to studying the stars and aligning them with monuments. And so they picked up all this knowledge, and this is what they brought back to Europe. And when they started building their cathedrals, like the cathedrals of Notre Dame, they tried to incorporate this knowledge.

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They built the cathedral of Notre Dame? Yeah, they're the ones who started building all those cathedrals. The Templars did. And it was with the money that they had amassed in the Holy Land and the knowledge that they had.

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Yeah, they did do that too. That was so – After they were suppressed, one of the places they fled to was Switzerland, and they helped to fight to create Switzerland, basically. And so the Swiss banks came out of that.

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Right, basically, yeah. So like, well, there were two things that were going on. Philip the Fair of France, he was, on the one hand, he wanted to become Rex Bellator, which was the war king. And he needed money to do that. And he owed the Templars a lot of money. He had taken loans from the Templar order. And so in order to deal with his debts and then also try to gain money,

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He had the Templar order suppressed. At the same time, Pope Clement V, who was Pope at the time and who arguably was put on the Popal throne by Philip the Fair of France. Philip the Fair, he was trying to control the papacy, and he had some control over it. But Pope Clement V, he wanted the Templar order to merge with the Knights Hospitallier.

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which were a rival order at the time to the Templars. And Jacques de Molay, who was the grandmaster of the Templar order, he didn't want to do it. He was like, no, we're a totally different thing than the Knights Hospitalier. We're not going to do it. But when the Templar order was suppressed, most of their properties ended up going to the Knights Hospitalier.

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The Knights Hospitaliae later became the Knights of Malta. And so in many places in Europe, if you go and you find an old, Knights of Malta building or a building that's being controlled by the Knights of Malta. In many cases, that was originally a Templar temple that they had acquired during that whole process.

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I'll say you could take a metal and break it down into a solution, get rid of impurities, and – and then turn it into something else that's good for you, that's more potent. So you'd go through stages of digestion, distillation, calcination, extract the oils, the salts, rebuild it all back together and create a medicine. So you learn how to do that with the

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Yeah, I think that was a later forgery. And the reason why I say that is because Napoleon... had actually raided the Vatican archives on his campaign, his Egypt campaign, actually. He stopped it in Italy to Rome. He raided the Vatican archives. He brought everything back to Paris. He was specifically looking for Templar documents, and he never found that document.

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Why was he looking for Templar documents? So Napoleon was the grandson of the illegitimate grandson of Bonnie Prince Charlie, who was the Scottish king in exile. Okay. And who was a Templar. And so he had an interest in Templarism. because of that.

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I mean, that's not like widely known, but he was Bonnie Prince Charlie's illegitimate grandson, which is why his name Bonaparte just means basically of good blood. And he always said he was royalty, but he never presented anything to back it up. And this is also why he married a Merovingian princess, Princess Josephine. The Merovingians, of course, was the royal line of France.

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And there was some speculation that they were passing on an Atlantean tradition of which Jesus and Mary Magdalene had been a part of and their bloodline had been a part of. And that – so Napoleon wanted to be married into that. Add that to the fact that Napoleon's personal physician was Bernard Raymond Fabre Palaprate, who was the Grand Master of the Templar Order at the time.

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And he had encouraged Napoleon to go find these artifacts and to trace down this root information. So when, when Napoleon went to the Vatican and raided the archives, I mean, he, he set up a whole series of scholars, uh, specifically to look for Templar artifacts and they never found the sheen on parchment.

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Yeah. They brought them back to St. Sulpice in France and Paris. And, uh, In fact, one of the people who was in charge of that was- What year was this? Roughly? Can you find it? I don't know off the top of my head. Is this information that you can find on the internet? Yeah, you should be able to find it.

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One of the people that he had going through those archives was actually Alfonso Constance, better known as Eliphas Levi, who was a- He was a priest in Paris who was known for writing very esoteric things, including a book on transcendental magic. And he was later in Freemasonry, Albert Pike, who was considered really the

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the philosophical father of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, when he wrote his book Morals and Dogma, 80% of that book is word for word copied from Eliphas Levi, which is kind of interesting. But this was – the fact that they were going through these archives – They were finding all kinds of stuff on the Templars and they never found the Chinon parchment.

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And it wasn't until after Dan Brown's books came out that all of a sudden the church released this new document that they had found that had just happened to be in their archives for the last 700 years without them noticing it. It was a little weird, you know. But it seems to suggest that the chino in parchment is probably a forgery.

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Well, what it did is it – I mean, back then, they probably wouldn't have been that. The big thing about the Chinon parchment is it suggested that the church wasn't behind the persecutions. Basically, it gave the – that the church had pardoned the Templars. The Chinon did? The Chinon parchment, yeah. And then Philip the Fair persecuted them anyways and burnt them at the stake anyways.

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But it allows the church to wash their hands of it and say, well, we pardoned the Templars. Because see, here's this document that just showed up that says we did, you know.

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No, and then there was obscene kisses on the buttocks.

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There was a... Now... And there are initiation, I will tell you, there are initiation rites within the Templar order. This is the kind of shit you got to do at FSU when you're like being like, hey. Yeah, right, right. I mean, in our degrees, there are some things that are similar to that, but it's not, it's highly distorted. No, no, no.

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There's a kiss on the back of the neck, and you'll find this in Sufi traditions as well. And this area, the back of the neck, was associated with doth on the Kabbalistic tree. And it was a... This area is, there's a ganglia here in the spinal column where the nerves go to both the pineal gland, or the third eye, and to the radial nerve, which goes to these two fingers and the thumb.

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This is why you always see Jesus doing this, right? And it's designed to awaken that area in the person. There's also things where – Why do you think they said they had to denounce Jesus? The theory is that they were – preparing them for if they got caught by Muslims during the Crusades, where they would be tortured and they would have to do those things in order to survive.

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It's the building blocks are the same for all medicines in terms of what you start with and then how you extract this stuff at the end. But you can also, you know, one of the herbs or one of the plants that's emphasized within Freemasonry in particular is the acacia plant. And if you do these processes to the acacia, you can extract certain forms of acacia. You can extract DMT out of it.

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That's the mundane theory behind it. I don't think there was ever a denouncing of Jesus, but there was a denouncing of the cross because According to Templar documents – well, documents that were found in the tradition, there was a belief that Jesus actually survived the crucifixion and that it's abhorrent to worship the cross. this implement of torture, right?

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And that what we should really be worshiping is they saw Jesus as a brother and they saw him as a exemplar. And this is the big difference between what Templars have taught versus what the church has taught. Templars have always taught that Jesus was the great exemplar, not that he was the great savior. So they didn't view him as like a divine example.

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no they they they saw him as divine but no more divine than any of us and that we all have the ability to do the things that jesus did in fact uh even jesus said that he said verily verily i say unto you these miracles you see me perform ye shall do also and those even greater than these right so he's saying anybody

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has the power to do these things through the universal consciousness, through the Christos. So Templars viewed Jesus as when Jesus spoke as the Christ, he was speaking as the universal consciousness. And that anybody has the ability to access that universal consciousness and have that universal consciousness work through them and be able to do the same things Jesus did.

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But it takes a certain amount of devotion and understanding and internal work, you know, before you could get there. But the... But Templars views Jesus as an exemplar. Like he was telling, he was showing us the way of how we can be. And the only salvation comes from us personally attaining that gnosis, that divine knowledge.

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Because once you attain that knowledge, you really know who you are, you know where you came from, you know where you're going, and you understand the bigger order of things. So you know there is no death, right? Wow. Which is a profound statement, you know? And the Templars performed initiation rites, and they still do, that are designed to...

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help you understand that who you are is not just your physical body and that there's a part of you that survives your physical body. There's a part of you that can live outside of your physical body and that you have this whole other side to yourself that largely remains dormant in people until they're able to wake up. Yeah. So, man, this sounds a lot like they were doing drugs.

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Well, I think drugs were used as a as a form of initiation. I mean, because especially on the earth level, because, again, we talk about earth, water, air and fire. Earth is our physical forms we're all born into, right? Everybody knows it, and this is where people get attached to it. They look for titillations and stuff. But when a drug was given to you on that Earth level,

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it opened your perception to realizing, wait, there may be more going on here than what I think. Yeah, I mean, that's this experience you get when you do psychedelics. Have you ever done psychedelics? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah. And yeah, you begin to see patterns. that might be behind reality and everything else.

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So that's the baptism by earth, right, is really using these drugs to open your perception to something. The next level, which was associated with water, had to do with the emotions and learning to stabilize your emotions. and use your emotions as an energy for you to do things as opposed to drowning in them, right? I mean, this is the real symbolic meaning behind walking on water, right?

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You stabilize your emotions so that you can walk on them as opposed to drowning in them. Right. So that was a stage. Some would say that was learning to subdue your passions, not get rid of your passions, but use your passions as an energy to. to propel you to get things done, right?

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So, you know, it's one of the undercurrents to the Masonic tradition. And it was something that. they had inherited from the Knights Templar as they were traveling in the Middle East in the Holy Land and meeting with groups like the Druze and the Sabaeans and others who were passing on this alchemical tradition and who were translating alchemical texts from the Greek and Roman and Egyptian times.

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Well, and the symbology that's in it, too. I mean, most people don't realize that there's, yes, there's depictions of the Bible all throughout it, but there is also astrological information in there. There's sacred geometry in there. Can you pull up images of Notre Dame, Steve? There's alchemical imagery in there.

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The alchemical, in fact, the front doors of Notre Dame Cathedral of Paris, if you go to the very front doors, there's these medallions that are right at head level as you're going in the doors, surrounding the doors. And those medallions actually they actually depict every stage of the alchemical process because they were trying to preserve that information you know the interior image on the left

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jesus incredible right and it's designed all acoustically too so like you know a priest could be at the front shouting out whatever and it'll just echo through the right the whole building so people can hear it you know i mean

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Well, it was just rebuilt recently. Yeah, recently, right? It's opening, I think, this week. Yeah, what happened to it again? It burned down? Yeah, it caught on fire. I think it was, that's another thing. I think, don't want to talk about conspiracies. I think the church set it on fire. Really?

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Why? Because they're looking for artifacts. And the only way they could do the archaeological digging in there is to have the place closed down for a while. Really? And it's interesting. They need an excuse. They need an excuse. Yeah, there's a number of cathedrals that were all set on fire around the same time, including St. Sulpice. And, but...

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The same hour that Notre Dame of Paris was set on fire, the former headquarters at King Solomon's stables in Jerusalem where the Templar order had their headquarters was also set on fire. Really? Same hour. That's a weird coincidence. I think the church is looking for artifacts. What do you think they're trying to find? What kind of artifacts?

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They're looking for things that they think might be buried in the church that the temple order may have left there. Yeah. you know those cathedrals the cathedrals of notre dame and it's not just it's not just notre dame of paris but it's uh all the other cathedrals in the area including shock cathedral and others if you view them from the air they're laid out in the constellation of virgo Really?

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Yeah. So they mimic the constellation of Virgo in the heavens on the ground. And, of course, Virgo is the Virgin, right? Just like Notre Dame was Our Lady, the Virgin Mary, right? But most people don't think about it. So each one of those cathedrals are built like a human body in form. And the Templars did this. They learned of this in Egypt. They were studying the temples in Egypt. You go to...

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You go to Karnak and Luxor, for example. It's all built out like a human body in form. How so? How like a human body? Well, if you view it from the air, the Luxor in particular, the whole thing is built like a – Each part of it is like a human body in form. In fact, there's Schwaller de Lubitz, who was, he's the one who first proposed that the Sphinx was much older.

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You type in aerial views, do you? Yeah, aerial, or look up, type in Temple of Man by de Lubitz. You'll see a depiction of Luxor in, and you'll see the human body imposed over it. Yeah, so it was all built so that the bottom part is where the feet are, and the top part is where the head is. Oh, yeah, it kind of does look like that, doesn't it? Right, exactly.

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So the Templars, they started figuring this out. So when they built the Notre Dame Cathedral, Our Lady... It's built like a human body in form. So like the baptismal font at the area of the belly button, the choir speaks from the area of the lungs, the priest is at the area of the heart, and then the sacrament is kept at the area of the third eye and the head. The sacrament?

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Yeah, that's where the wine and the wafers are kept. Oh, really? Yeah, for communion. But then as you leave the church, you go through the arch, which is the birth canal. So if Notre Dame is Our Lady, which is Mary, the Virgin Mary, and you're being born from it, what does that make you? Makes you the Christ. Wow. Right? Totally Gnostic idea, right? Totally heretical.

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But that's how the Templars set it up. And even Vatican City, if you look at Vatican City from the air, it's built like a human body in – In fact, I have a good picture of that. Have you ever been to the Vatican? Yeah, yeah. But you know, the cathedrals, We're built to be these human bodies in form too, you know, specifically because it has that symbolic meaning of that, the as above, so below.

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But what's the story with the Holy Grail? Oh, yes, that's a good question. So originally the word grail comes from ancient Sumer, and it was graal, G-R-A dot A-L. And what it alluded to, that was the word for the alchemical science in ancient Egypt. Okay. Yeah, here it is. Yes, on the right there you can see Vatican City.

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I wouldn't say it's common practice. There are brothers who do. But the process for extracting it is the same as you would for any other herb. You do the same process. It just so happens that... So psychedelics aren't necessarily a part of that? No, they're not necessarily a part of it. There have been Masonic rites throughout...

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We start messing around with ideas that people aren't comfortable with. In the past, it's been kind of dangerous, you know? Yeah.

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See the legs and the belly and the... Yeah. Going up into the head.

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Yeah. So all of these, all of these, uh, ancient temples were built with this, this as above, so below relationship between the, the person and in the structure itself. And, uh,

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and it had symbolic meaning as you went through the temple you know there are different things at the different part of it that corresponded to different parts of the human body itself interesting yeah but you find the same thing with the cathedrals hence why they're called our lady yeah yeah um back to the grail yeah so it was an alchemical thing Yeah, yeah.

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So originally in ancient Sumer, graal, G-R-A dot A-L, just meant – that was the word for the alchemical science, the science of transformation. Later, that came to be associated with everything from the cup of Jesus – at the Last Supper, to the head of John the Baptist, to the cauldron of Pliny from ancient Celtic lore, to the emerald tablet of Hermes.

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One of the descriptions of the grail is they said it was an emerald that was in the crown of Lucifer. And that when the battle took place in heaven, that emerald got knocked out of his crown during the battle. And that there were neutral angels that brought this emerald to earth. And that this emerald then became known as the grail. That's in Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival book.

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But they also say that the grail is a stone that burns the phoenix to ashes, after which it comes back renewed. So there's all these different descriptions of the grail, none of which seem to correspond with each other, even though they do. And that's where the mystery lies.

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Ultimately, I would say that the grail represents the connecting point between the consciousness of God or the creator and the human consciousness or individual consciousness. So when we get to that point of gnosis, that's where the grail is. That's the grail.

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And in the, I will say, in the earliest grail stories, like Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival, which was written, Wolfram was a Templar, and he received this information from Giot of Provence, who we know who Giot was. He was a, he was actually a, Well, it says kiat in the text, but there was a certain giat of province who was a Templar who he got this information from.

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But in Wolfram von Nischenbach's Parzival, it's suggestive that the grail is an alchemical thing. It's an alchemical science. And that... It represents a state of balance. And it also represents a... It represents... the balance of the new age we're going into, the age of Aquarius, it points to that. And it also points to, there's a hermit in the story called Trevesrent the Hermit.

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history that have done that to a certain degree uh i mean i would recommend the works of uh pd newman uh he's he's written a number of books that uh specifically focus on that in particular but uh yeah so that's part of it i mean uh if if i think

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Well, Trevesrent just means threefold knower. And hermit comes from the word Hermes. So really what it is, is it's Hermes Trismegistus, uh, who is known for writing the Emerald Tablet of Hermes, which was this alchemical instruction tablet. And the beginning of the tablet says, this tablet was something that was studied by people for centuries.

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It was believed that Alexander the Great found it at, at, at Abydos. Um, this, this tablet originally and what it, uh, What it says is as above, so below. This is how it begins, right? And it's a tablet for the instruction of how to create the philosopher's stone, which was a substance said to transmute base metals into gold, to raise consciousness and to heal the body. Right?

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Which is pretty great, because if you could- Turn base metals into gold? Yeah, like lead into gold. So if you could like transmute metals, so you could create your own money, and you could heal yourself, and you could raise your own consciousness, those are all you need, right? To have mastery in this world. So this was a tablet for the instruction of how to produce this substance.

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So he never tried it? Oh, yeah. Sir Isaac Newton spent most of his life trying to do it. In fact, 80% of everything he ever wrote on was alchemy, specifically related to this tablet. He had his own translation of it. And people like him and Robert Boyle and others. Did they ever get anywhere? Some say they did, yeah.

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But Newton did go mad with mercury poisoning for a while, and John Locke actually had to come and heal him back to health. You started writing these crazy letters to John Locke, and John Locke realized... He had probably gone mad from mercury poisoning. Was that because he was trying to figure out this concoction? Yeah, exactly.

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He was trying to... You know, mercury, if you heat it really hot, it can separate itself. On the one hand, it can form this... this white powder which is one of the most deadliest poisons known to man but on the other hand you could get these red crystals which are said to be quite therapeutic and are used in all kinds of modern medical stuff but uh yeah but so newton did go mad for a while um uh

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john locke gave him a bunch of cilantro which helped to leach the the uh the mercury out of his system so he restored a sanity but jesus yeah but so anyhow the but this uh this emerald tablet some people believe this is really what that Emerald is that Wolfram von Eschenbach talks about that, uh, that was plucked out of the crown of Lucifer, that it was that Emerald became the Emerald tablet.

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Um, and, uh, And there's some people that believe that that emerald tablet was also what was referred to as the tablet of testimony in the Old Testament. Moses had two tablets he brought down from the mountain. One had the commandments on it, and the other was called the tablet of testimony. And he didn't think the people were ready for the tablet of testimony, so he broke it.

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there's a lot of subtleties in Freemasonry and the ritual that is, they don't necessarily tell you directly what they're telling you, if that makes sense. You go through these initiations and they will subject you to weird things. And those weird things, they don't make rational sense. Like what? What kind of weird things?

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And some people believe that other tablet was this emerald tablet. And that what Moses was actually doing up on the mountain was alchemical work. And that's why he came down with soot on his face. His face was all black from soot. And then right after that, he burned the golden calf into a powder, which is the mana, the monoatomics, which was an alchemical process.

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Yeah. That's bizarre. Yeah. So anyhow, this, this Emerald tablet was some people that think that was one of the secrets of the grail. And we don't know where that is anymore.

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Well, so supposedly it was, it was the last two people who were said to have had it in particular, like the actual tablet was, was, um, uh, Alexander the Great, who had discovered it in Egypt, and Aristotle helped him translate it and understand it. And then Apollonius of Tyana was said to have had it.

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and app and some people believe the apostle paul was actually apollonius of tyana in fact paul is just a abbreviation of apollonius which just means little apollo right little son and uh it's so wild that all this stuff goes back to egypt Yeah, it does. It all goes back to Egypt. And if you go there, we do, like I mentioned earlier, we do tours there.

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If you look up Templar Travel Tours, that's our company, but we do tours there at least once a year, sometimes twice a year. And we have access to all these sites in Egypt that the general public doesn't have access to. And uh, where you can see all this stuff. We show you all this stuff. We show you all the arcs that are on the walls and the, uh, uh,

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No, no, that was ridiculous. The reason why they say that is they found a bull sacrifice by the later Egyptians that was mummified and placed outside the Serapium. You have to remember, when the Egyptians found the Serapium, they found it, right? They were blown away by it. right? They, they, yeah.

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How do you get those in there? How do you get them down there? How do you move them? How do you get the lids off? How do you, uh, and, and how they're, they're dendrite. They, they are the hardest granite that there is. And, uh, You know, the Egyptians had copper tools. They couldn't have made those. There's no way. And they're so precise.

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They're so precise that, you know, so when the Egyptians found it, they tried to preserve the site. It was what they did. They did everything they could to try to preserve it. They would go and they would worship there. They would even eat the dirt. You can see the areas around it where they dug out the dirt to eat because they thought it had magical qualities.

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Yeah. And you tell me how you even drill out the inside of that box. You'd need a diamond drill, you know, I mean, and then it would have to be so precise. I mean. Yeah, so I'm under the opinion. Now, there's different people that have different opinions about what those boxes were for. I think those boxes were like a survival shelter. That's where they kept. Yeah, look at that shit, dude.

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Well, it's just like, for example, you may have a ritual where you only have one shoe on. At first, it may seem like a form of hazing, but then you realize they're trying to emphasize... you know, your left side of your body, for example. And, and they're trying to, between the degrees, they're trying to bring you into balance with yourself.

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Exactly. So precise. Jesus Christ. You can almost see the reflection in the stone. You can see the reflection. It's literally reflecting him. It's so polished. It's so polished. And, you know, we would be hard-pressed to be able to do that today.

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That's exactly right. Yeah, they're unbelievable works. We go down there for sure, uh, and explore them and look at the areas where you can see, um, you know, where there, there was there, there, there's still remnants of the hydrofluoric acid that I'm sure was used to help create it, um, to, to help carve them. Uh, but, uh, I think it's my opinion that.

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These were a pre-cataclysm technology that was created to store grains and other things for after the cataclysm.

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But then why would it have to be so precise just to store grains? I think they just had the technology to do it. You think it was so easy for them? It was easy for them, yeah. It was easy for them. And they had to make them so heavy to ensure that they survived the cataclysm. Right? I mean, you have to remember, we're talking about Younger Dryas, and I believe that there was a...

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shall we say, probably comet fragments that were hitting the Earth at that time. Do you think it was the Younger Dryas or maybe before the Younger Dryas? Well, the civilization was pre-Younger Dryas. Pre-Younger Dryas, right. But then the Younger Dryas cataclysm is what they were trying to preserve everything from.

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I think it hit the entire north. I think it was hitting in northern Europe, too.

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In fact, well, and... I'll tell you something else that I believe, and when I say I, it's me, but it's also the Templar tradition has passed on, is the belief that the Valley of the Kings is, most people think of them as just these tombs that are built out of the side of the mountain, right? Which is true, but...

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all of those tombs are actually connected by tunnels that go way down into the earth. And I believe that that area was originally, those were originally survival bunkers from the cataclysm. And that later they came out of that and the pharaohs preserved the memory of originally coming out of there.

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And so, because all of that stuff, I mean, those tunnels, it would have taken thousands of people to carve all of that out. And if you're trying to keep a place a secret, that'd be pretty dumb to employ thousands of people to carve this whole place out because it's not going to remain a secret. I think it already existed. And what the secret was is the pharaohs passed on the memory of it.

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And so they went back there and started burying themselves there to hide because they're trying to be buried close to where their ancestors first came out of there after the cataclysm. And the reason why I believe this is because in many of the tombs to this day, they still have depictions of things that they shouldn't have known about.

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And, but they'll also talk about things that just don't make sense. Like one of my favorite ones is there's a, there's a, In the third degree, there's a ship captain. They do these plays for the person, for the candidate. And in the third degree, there's the ship captain, and there's these bad people that are trying to get on this ship to go to Ethiopia from Jerusalem.

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There are Egyptian tombs, and I can pull up pictures of this for you too, that show bearded white dudes, these tall giant bearded white dudes with red beards with baby woolly mammoths on leashes and giant sloths on leashes. The Egyptians shouldn't have known about woolly mammoths or giant sloths. Right? Right.

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Those were animals that existed prior to the cataclysm and went extinct after the cataclysm. Right. After Younger Dryas. Right. So what are they doing? I'm depicting them on Egyptian temple walls. And let me give you an example. I'll give you a picture of that.

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The inside dimensions of that king's coffer are the exact same dimensions as the outer dimensions as the Ark of the Covenant is described in the Bible. So if we remember that these arcs are electrostatic capacitors, they were in all the temples of Egypt, right? And if you put mana in it, which was a superconductive substance, is this monoatomic elements, it produces tremendous amount of power.

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Well, if you were to put that in the pyramid, right, in the king's chamber, in the king's coffer in the pyramid, the pyramid itself is just from the weight of the granite pressing on it is piezoelectric.

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Yep. I think, well, even I don't even think, I think there might be something to that. I also think though, it doesn't even have to be that complicated. I mean, you have right now, if you were to, if you were to stand on top of the great pyramid, uh,

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with a just take a wine bottle and you put a wet rag on it and hold it up sparks will start shooting off what yeah just from the natural generation of the uh the static electricity that's built up from the desert and through the pyramid so if you were to put a an arc

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which is designed to literally build up static electricity with this superconductive substance right in the center of it, it's going to generate a ton of electricity to broadcast in the region. And in fact, let's look at the word pyramid itself. Pyramid literally means fire, mid means middle. So fire in the middle, that's literally what pyramid means, right?

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Yeah, I think that there's different theories that the ben-ben, the top capstone. So here's actually, here's the pictures. See the woolly mammoth? Oh, yeah. And the giant sloth on leashes.

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Yeah, and if you go to – Can you zoom out a little bit on that? Yeah, there's another picture I just sent him that's the same image without my hand in it, but you can see the people. Oh, wow. See, there's these tall white dudes with red beards. This is in one of the tombs in Egypt, right, in the Valley of the Kings. Right. Right? Clearly, the pharaohs never saw woolly mammoths and giant sloths.

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And most people don't think anything of it. uh and it's king solomon's ship captain right it's king solomon's ship and uh these bad people can't get on king solomon's ship that goes from from jerusalem to ethiopia well you got to remember freemasonry uh largely standardized its rituals by the early 1700s and There is no way to sail from Jerusalem to Ethiopia, right?

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So clearly, they were trying to preserve the memory of these things from the previous time, which was known as the Zeptepe, the original time.

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Yeah, those are evidence of a technology that, I mean, we'd be hard-pressed to be able to make that today. You know, people don't think about that.

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Yeah. Well, I... Yeah, I mean, with that heart of stone and that type of precision, you really do need... Like, why?

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Yeah, well, because I think they wanted to prove that they could, you know? I mean, it's... yeah most people they go to the cairo museum they see those uh stone vases they don't think anything of it they think oh it's just a vase they made out of stone but they're not realizing

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number one if we accept what the archaeologists say which is that the egyptians only had copper tools yeah uh copper can't cut that no you know copper can't you can't use a copper drill to drill into that the copper will melt i mean it's not it won't even budge the stone right so uh So you need a diamond drill to even go into something like that.

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Like when you were a child or were your parents into this stuff? Yeah. Yeah, my dad was. My grandparents were on both sides of my family. And yeah, I was brought into it at eight. How so? Were you initiated? Yeah, I was initiated at eight. What was that like? Well, it was a page initiation. I thought... I was led into a council. There was a bunch of people dressed in cloaks and stuff.

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And then you need high pressure and water pump and everything else.

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Right. Yeah, the whole idea that Khufu built the pyramid, too, is ridiculous. I mean, that's all based on Weiss, who was an archaeologist who was known for forging things. And with red ochre paint, he got caught doing this in other places in Egypt. And it just so happens, while he was in the Great Pyramid, he sent his workers home.

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Uh, and the next day, lo and behold, he found with red ochre paint Kufu's name, uh, in hieroglyphs up in the upper relieving chambers of the pyramid. But, um, there's several problems with that. One of which is he spelled Khufu's name wrong.

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So it's like, so you're going to tell me you're going to build this, if Khufu built this giant monument, he's just going to like have his name spelled wrong up in the upper relieving chambers. I mean, it's ridiculous. So it's very clear that he forged it. But people have been believing it ever since.

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You couldn't sail from Jerusalem to Ethiopia until the Suez Canal was built, which was recently, right? So then you have to ask yourself, well, what kind of ship is it? And the answer is, at the same time that ritual was being developed, there was a Freemason who was also a Templar by the name of Bruce. Bruce was his name. But he was with the Scottish Royal Society. And he had...

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Sure, sure. Thought experiments. But on the other hand, he said he received his information about Atlantis from Solon, who was his grandfather. And he says that Solon learned of it from the high priests in Egypt. Right. And we actually know where... The Atlantis story is recorded in Egypt. It's at Edfu, at the Temple of Horus at Edfu, where it's laid out in the temple walls.

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It's the building text at Edfu. And they talk about this great civilization where the gods came from. And that it had collapsed from a, they depicted as a giant serpent in the sky that came down and destroyed it. And that they escaped on boats and they fled to Egypt. And then they started setting up Egypt to be a repository of the Atlantean information.

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Well, I don't know, probably maybe 20 or so. I mean, it wasn't that long. But what's interesting is Plato does place the fall of Atlantis 9,000 years before him. which would have put it exactly... That was before Athens was even there. Correct. Yeah, exactly. So he said Atlantis existed 9,000 years before, and it had collapsed 9,000 years before him. Yeah.

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So, and that would have put it in, in Plato's time, that would have put it exactly at the time of the younger dry.

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It's just hard to remember it. What's interesting is one of the things that Plato talks about with Atlantis is he says that the colors of Atlantis were black, red, and white. And those were also the colors of Egypt, which is why Egypt's flag is black, red, and white. Interesting. And those are also the colors of the alchemical process of the transmutations.

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They go through the changes from black to red to white. as you're working them in the lab. Those are also the colors of the Templar order. That's why the Templar flag was black and white with a red cross on it. And some people have said to me, well, so from a Templar perspective, the Templar order was really founded on

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to seek out, they understood that there were all these flood stories, right, from all these different cultures that they are encountering. They all had these flood stories. And they understood that there was, they originally were looking at it from a Noah perspective, like there had been this civilization that had collapsed from the flood.

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But when they encountered the Druze and the Sabaeans and others who were translating the works of Plato, they came to learn of the Atlantis story. And so... They determined that this great civilization of antiquity was probably Atlantis and that they were trying to find the remnants of Atlantis.

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They're trying to find the technologies, the philosophies, and the knowledge of Atlantis to rebuild civilization. And that's really what the Templars were doing. Now, some have said to me, well, that's just something that you're making up, Tim. But in fact... It's something that's been in our tradition a long time.

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I first learned of it through the grandmaster before me was a man by the name of Raymond Bernard. And he wrote a book called Secret Meeting in Rome. And this was about his initiation in the Templar order. And I think it was 1956. And in that book, Where in his description of his initiation of the Templar order, he learned about the Templar connection with Atlantis.

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And he writes about that in his book, Secret Meeting in Rome. So that's where I first learned of it. And how did he learn about it? From the Templar grandmaster who was initiating him at the time. Yeah. So this is the...

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He had just discovered this new Ethiopian text called the Kebregit Nagast.

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There is actually. It's at the Temple of Horus at Edfu. Okay. It's on the temple walls. Okay. For the building text there.

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Yeah, so what happened was they had it written down on these parchments that they were passing down for centuries. And then somewhere along the line decided we better get this like on a temple wall so it's preserved. Uh-huh. And when, so when was that written? When were those Edfu texts written? Do we know? I'd have to look at when the Temple of Horus was built at Edfu. Okay.

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We'd have to look up when the Temple of Horus at Edfu was built.

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Yeah, they inscribed it on the temple walls so that it would be preserved. And so you can still see it there to this day. Okay. where it's known as the building text. And it was when they learned how to build in ancient Egypt. And it was from this episode of the gods. 200 BC. So that's when they incorporated it on the walls. That says when it was built. Right, right.

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When they incorporated it on the walls there. But it came from these earlier techs, and then they started incorporating it. But we don't have the techs. We don't have the techs. Right.

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So the point that that thing was making... There's legends that there's a hall of records underneath the Sphinx. Yes, I've heard that. Where all this stuff is preserved.

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He's not a very good... And I would concede that Plato, you know, he would write things in metaphor. Yeah. You know, I mean, he would take... I once was told, given some good advice, it says you need to learn to read... Sometimes you need to read history as myth and myth as history. You know, you have to look at it both ways. Yeah. Because sometimes there's things that are contained in that.

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It's like... Yeah. I mean, there, there's all kinds of things that are passed down in nursery rhymes or in, uh, you know, stories that they could just get changed throughout slightly throughout history. But if you take it back to its source, there's some real truth to it. And, uh, Yeah, as far as Atlantis goes, I think part of it was metaphor for sure.

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But I think part of it was there's probably something to it. Maybe. I mean, the fact that he places the collapse of Atlantis 9,000 years previously to him. Before so long. Which would have put it exactly at the Younger Dryas cataclysm. Exactly. Yeah, that's true. That's spot on.

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And that's, you know, I think we have to consider that.

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Yeah, for sure, for sure. I don't believe Atlantis was like an island somewhere.

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Yeah, Randall believes it's in the Azores. There's some Templar traditions that suggest that, too. In fact, that's the whole reason why Portugal owns the Azores. Right? Because Portugal was founded as a Templar state. Right, exactly. And Portugal was founded as a Templar state, and they acquired the Azores.

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And there's some tradition to say Mount Pico in the Azores was actually the top of a very large mountain where the Atlanteans worshipped. That's just one tradition, though. I mean, I think that if there was an Atlantis, it was more of a...

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uh, worldwide network culture, uh, more of a worldwide empire, like, like the British empire, you know, I mean, you would find if, if, if civilization collapsed right as the British empire was at its peak, you know, you'd find English all over the world and, and there would be a debate about where, you know, where this empire base was, you know, I mean, and I think it was a similar type of deal.

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Well, the other thing you have to keep in mind too is, you know, the Mayans and the Nahuatl cultures of the Americas, they have the same myth of Atlantis, but they call it Aztlan. Oh, yeah. So the fact that you have Aztlan of the indigenous Maya and Nahuatl cultures called it Aztlan Plato called it Atlantis.

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Well, yeah, he did his... He wrote the most authoritative work on it early on, I would say. Donnelly was known for two things. He wrote on Atlantis and he wrote on the idea that Francis Bacon wrote the Shakespeare plays. Those were the two things he focused on. But yeah, Donnelly definitely picked it up pretty big. And then... And then people have been running with it ever since.

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And Donnelly also believed that it was in the middle of the Atlantic. Other people have suggested it may have been in Antarctica before it iced over. Some people have even suggested it was the planet Mars. And that there were beings coming over from Mars. And that's the reason why it was described as red, black, and white. Because those are the colors of Mars.

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And that Mars is about the same size of what Plato was suggesting. I mean, that's a whole other thing getting out there. But there's different theories on it. I will say... that in Egypt there's also an island called Elephantine Island in the middle of the Nile. And it has a number of things there that shouldn't be there. I mean, first of all, it looks like a bomb went off on the island.

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I mean, there's huge 700-ton bombs. uh, structures that have just been blown to the side. Uh, uh, there, there's, there's a granite or not granite, uh, um, I can't think of it, but there's stone buildings that have been blown apart into literally like pieces. And there's speculation that there's an ark that's there to this day.

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I mean, there's German scientists who've been digging there for decades now trying to get to it. Right. Yeah, but there's other things that they found on the island, including boomerangs, or they call them magic throwing sticks, which seem to connect some sort of connection between the Egyptians and Australia. And there's also a temple of Thutmose III on the island.

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And in the temple, they have depicted... Mayans meeting with Egyptians. Really? Yeah. I mean, very clear. How can you tell they're Mayans? Because they have big Mayan headdresses and they're dressed the same way the Mayans dress. Really? And they're trading beads with the Egyptians and the hieroglyphs talk about the two, that they were brothers on either side of the big body of water. Wow.

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But that suggests that the Egyptians were probably trying to go find in antiquity were probably trying to go find people that they were connected to previously. And the fact that both have the same Atlantis myth. They both built pyramids. They both built pyramids. It suggests that there may be some connection there in antiquity.

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And that, I mean, the fact that, again, the Mayans have, not only that, but the Mayans, not only do they have the same... Atlantis myth, which they just call Aztlan. They say they escaped Aztlan in boats and fled to the Yucatan, where they are now. And they refer to the people of Aztlan as the Itza, which just means like water wizard. So they referred to them as water wizards. Yeah.

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But the fact that they have this whole myth, same myth as Plato talks about. It's bizarre. And I'll tell you, even at the – if you go to Nakamul, which is the second tallest pyramid in the Mayan world. It's in the Yucatan in Mexico. What's it called again? Nakamul. Nakamul? Yeah. Nakamul. It's – on the very top of the pyramid, there are tridents.

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And I think that the Mayan – the Mayan also had this – this figure known as the Falling God figure, but his body is in the shape of a trident. And, of course, the trident was the symbol of Poseidon, who was the god of Atlantis. So, yeah, there it is.