Terry Rancorn

So it's extremely competitive to get into the FBI undercover program. When I joined, my wife and I joined, the FBI took three out of every 100 applicants.

So just getting in the door, you're seeing Harvard Law graduates being turned away. You're seeing people who were former Navy SEALs being turned away. So you get this feeling, it's like, wow, I'm really in the top cut here. It's like I made the NFL draft or the NBA draft.

It's such a difficult course. I mean, you were surviving on, I think the average is about three hours of sleep per night for two weeks. And you're thrown into these scenarios where you have to think on your feet and you have to improvise. And if you screw up, it doesn't go well for you. They're very violent scenarios.

You may be doing an arms deal in a hotel room and you screw up and say the wrong thing or you forget part of your legend.

And all of a sudden you're just pummeled by these big geezers that grab you and drag you into the bathroom and are literally pushing your head under the water in a bathtub.

Oh, it's and we've been accused of that. It's not hazing. It's not done like, OK, you know, this is going to happen to you. It's all done to teach lessons to keep you from dying in the real world. We've had students have teeth knocked out. We've had several students have nervous breakdowns during the school, literal nervous breakdowns.

We've never killed anyone yet, but we've had people medevaced out by helicopter. Scott was actually one of my students.

Very impressed. I remember seeing him perform and And he had great composure. He's a big guy, so he could pull off being intimidating, but he's very charismatic. And he was able to think ahead on the chessboard rather than just react. So a lot of the common misconception about undercovers is, is that they're used car salesmen, they're slick talkers. And that's really not the case.

They're strategists, they're playing a game of chess. And you have to understand the consequences of pushing your queen out to the middle of the board. Okay, what's that gonna do for it? What advantages, what disadvantages? But Scott had the ability to use his size in conjunction with humor

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