Terry Houin
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Three, two, one. Smells like freedom. Mmm.
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is i mean i'd love to have a dietitian and physical therapy like we got it later on but by that point i'm already broken oh yeah it's like you know rewind 20 years and get that when i'm 21 like hey we're gonna teach how to eat and why macronutrient like all these different pieces are important and mitochondria like all this crap is important That would have been awesome.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Actually building like warriors from the ground up. I still would have probably drank the 5-am, but I know how to rehydrate, right? You knew you were making mistakes. Clearly conscious of making bad decisions, yes.
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white claw oh my god not your thing i just turn into that my uggs pop in real quick what flavor you got there tangerine some pumpkin spice something yeah it's like it's like you're drinking uh tv static while someone yells about a tangerine hide the bourbon behind this white girl shit oh nick start to fuck cody's not here i know yeah
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I would say maybe there, but in... Sometimes it's... Like, they've actually done it where it's like...
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Yeah, I sucked at running because I'm fucking a midget.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Road marching can suck a cock at 135 pounds. Like a little Mexican Eli, I was like...
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No, but it's, and I try not to, I mean, every now and then you would get some, you can just tell like character wise, they just, they don't have it for what we need to do. But yeah, I mean, you'd have these little skinny kids. You're like, there ain't no way he's going to stay warm and they pass.
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And then same thing on the other side, super motivated high school quarterback, like supreme athlete doesn't know how to fucking lose at things. Can I tell a quick story or something? Yeah, jump in there. Get in there on the mic, homie.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Hell no. I wouldn't want to. But at his age. I had to join the Army. It's easier.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Just because you said I couldn't do it.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Drinking and cocaine. Why not?
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
51.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I don't know if I could. I think I might be aged out by now.
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You're on unsub now.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
We're going to stay here and drink. So I can stay here and drink bourbon or I can go hang out with a whole bunch of 300 people in a fucking room? No.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I'll just go to the recruiter and see if he'll sign me up.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Oh, shit.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I probably look like it, babe. I haven't had this beard for years. I probably would look young. You're 35.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Yeah, so I graduated Bud's, went to SEAL Team 4 back in, so I got there in 90, October 93, I believe it was. Yep. So T4, two points, South America. Awesome time. Like South America in the 90s was awesome. Serve, hang out with locals. Dollar was strong. So you could take all your local dude you're training to dinner and drinks. And it was like 30 bucks or whatever. Oh, dude. Yeah. Two points.
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I love South America. I don't know about now, but probably worth going back there now. Kevin, I'm sure there's something down there we can go kill in Ecuador.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
So five years. And at that point, my list went up.
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i'm like okay get out i guess i never really thought about making a career of it and my girlfriend then my wife now she's like well i'm not still yeah dude congrats no no it's awesome she's awesome anyway that's up yeah it's like trooper well i'm not going anywhere like well if you're not going i guess i'll go re-enlist and if i re-enlist i'm going to try out for this development group thing she's like what is it like i don't know but it's funny because i think i was talking with the guys earlier like my first and second platoon chief are both from there
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
But they never really talked about what it was, what they did, anything else. It was just kind of understood that you do your time at Team 4 for your first deployment, and then you try to go to Green Team and keep progressing on. So, again, no idea what I was really getting into other than that's just the next level to go to. Yeah, so I went to Green Team in 98. I love you. They said it was cool.
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Yeah, that's where we go.
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It's fortunate because I didn't really know what to expect, so I had no expectations of what I was getting into. I showed up and did the work and was like Kevin was saying, I was average at best in green team, but I didn't fuck anything up. No safety violations. I didn't kill anybody, so I made it through.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
It's funny because I did two deployments and this is like pre anything really going on other than, you know, we're doing FID or foreign internal defense. training locals, doing a little bit of like counter drug stuff, but not anything crazy. I'm like, Oh, I'm pretty cool. I know what I'm doing. I've been in for five years.
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And then you show up over there and you're like your peer group at that point, you're like, Oh fuck, this is, this is like the cream of the crop. Like some of the guys I had in my green team were just absolute legends. I'm like, I got to really step up my shit. Like I thought I was cool at team four, but like not here. Always a bigger fish. Yeah. Oh yeah.
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And I was, and I was the youngest guy in the class. So I was the baby. How old were you at this point? Uh, 25. Okay.
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Uh, so I've been married 26 years, I think.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Yeah.
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around and before anybody even knew what that was it is there a point where your wife and or your kids like turn around wait hold on dad does that well it just kind of grew they grew up like that so my wife she's from that well it's not from the community but we started dating when i was a team four so she's just been around seals in that community and other girlfriends why so she just understood what was going on and when 9-11 kicked off
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This is like my rule in life is like, I've got limited numbers of fucks. So I spend them wisely. Tell us what your background is. I grew up in Indiana. Where? Up by South Bend, a little town called Plymouth. So I grew up swimming. That's what led me to the Navy, vice the Army or anything else. I thought I could be like a scuba diver or something cool.
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was a whole different world like we didn't have kids at that point so it's like hey i'm going here i don't know when i'm coming back and she just got in that cycle like hey every nine months terry's taking off and then then we had our first kid and i would come home and i would try to be the best that i could when i'm home and then i'm gone for 200 days a year or whatever it's going to be from training and deployments and everything else it's super strong lady and super awesome and i'm lucky to have her i mean we had struggles like everybody else does but yeah
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I think I was lucky because I was gone so much that by the time she got tired of my bullshit, I would leave for a while. Then she said, okay, come back home. And I come home, I piss her off again. I'm like, Oh, I'm gone again. But you being home is her deployment. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I know where I was going with that, but yeah. So it's, it's,
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I don't know where that question was, but yeah.
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It's funny because my girls are never impressed. They're like, dad's dad. She knew what I did and my friends. Those poor boyfriends. I was about to say. They go to school and they're like, we just don't talk about what dad does. And it was funny because my daughter, she was probably third grade or whatever. My wife tells the story. She was at school doing something.
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And it's like, okay, what's your dad do? It's like, well, we... we don't talk about that. And teachers are automatically like, Oh, dad's an asshole. We probably beat the wife and her divorce or whatever. Like, then she's like, okay, how? And then eventually my daughter's like, dad's in Iraq, killing bad guys or whatever it was. And teachers like, Oh, okay. We're just not going to ask.
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It's funny because we just don't talk about where dad goes or when he's, when he's gone.
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The only one was different. Our first IRAC deployment was so 03, you know, everything kicks off. We four deploy our green brothers over there. They're doing a different mission and we're doing the WMD stuff. That was probably the only deployment for like 60 to 90 days to where we didn't call home. The command people would keep them involved like, hey, the guys are deployed. Everybody's fine.
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Like they would keep them up to date, but That was probably the only window of out of the 26 years that I didn't talk to her at some point. And like, and she didn't really know what was going on. I mean, obviously, watched the news. She knew what was going on, but she had no idea really where we were. But outside of that, it was once a week or once every couple of weeks, like whatever I could.
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We would call or email. We had emails back then. I'm not that old, but yeah.
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Yeah, and I think the best thing that she ever did was she never got sucked into the whole wife's network. We call it the pink squadron or whatever you want to call it. Like the bitchiness, like, oh, my husband did this. And like, she never put up with that bullshit. She's like, hey, she had her friends.
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She made really good friends with other Navy wives that were not in the command, so she just didn't put up with that bullshit. Which saved me a lot of problems.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
And then they tricked me into signing up for this, jumping out of airplanes and blowing shit up and no idea what Bud's or any of that stuff was.
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Yeah, I was like, bro, you guys get the coolest fucking weapon platform. Oh yeah, you want to drop a building quick, launch one of those things through the window and the game is over. But I mean, that's, you know, I was telling somebody that's like, poob.
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Like the old Australian like ring things. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. You better send me one. Yeah. I mean, drop a building with an AT4, throw a barricade. It's fucking awesome. When did you first get introduced to this weapons platform? That one, that was a big on the breacher side of it. I never got to shot, shoot one, shot one, shoot one. I don't know. You tell us.
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This is, so I signed up in 91 and joined in January 92. Yeah. So like pre, pre Al Gore. I was seven.
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Either can be right to us. Yeah. So I never got to shoot one, but some of the other guys did. And it's, yeah, that's probably, I was in Iraq when I first saw it. So that's probably mid five, six, seven, somewhere in our ballpark. So we go fact checking and be like, this is when it was invented. But no, no one in this community would be like, that dude's a hater.
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Maybe it was a different rocket. You let me know if we have to cut that out. Oh, we can say whatever. Somebody will fact check and they'll do that.
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Just like a manhole cover.
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01, 02, 03.
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What's in there? Best guess. We'll figure it out.
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Oh yeah. That's yeah. That's terrible. Well, it's good from the fact that we have that technology and we can leverage it to keep guys as safe as we can. But it's also bad, like, hey, if the Chinese knock out all our fucking satellites, how are you going to fucking solve the problem? That's over-dependence. That's a wonderful point.
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We train to that now with the guys. Absolutely. That's good. Shoot an ASVAB, bro. Yeah, that old.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Now you got me questioning. That was a long time ago.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I'm sure there was something on the side that says, don't fucking drop this.
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I was seven. Yes. No, I just like that. Sorry. I got Kevin. Kevin's my peer group.
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They just chuck you out and you're like. Yeah. Back in the old days, we ended up in. So I went through free fall in green team. So we had the tunnels and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I remember the old guys. I'm a little skydive board. Like, oh, we're going to do a formation. And they're scrolling around like a little creeper for every car. Cause when it's a lot more difficult than you think.
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Yeah. Until you get to feel, I mean, once you get the feel of it, then the easiest thing in the world, then you strap a lot of shit on and I'm short and I'm small. So you start strapping all that shit on. I got like little hands sticking out, trying to fly this. Yeah. I'm like, you get little hands in my feet. Hopefully I'm falling straight. I can't tell.
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Yeah, when Clint comes on, it's like, hey, what'd you fuck up to lose your legs? What'd you do wrong?
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I mean, all the advancements of, like, weapon systems and ammunition, like, all that stuff was driven from the special operations side. So, you name it, like...
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Yeah, I was very lucky on my timing. So I came in in the 90s, nothing's going on. Got to learn how to be a SEAL, learn how to do my job well before 9-11 kicked off. So by the time 9-11 kicked off, I'm 9, 10 years in the Navy. I already know the job. So now we start adding complexity of now we're in fucking Afghanistan. We don't have X, Y, and Z, but we're just figured out. Stress level is good.
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And then a bunch of awesome appointments, slowing down, getting into the leadership position. And as everything kind of starts slowing down in the world and changing to whatever we got today, it's like, I'm out. Time's up. I'm old. I'm good. Timing-wise is awesome. I got to see the heyday of all that stuff. Yeah, you got to see... I got to do my job.
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East.
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South was 40 for a while, depending on where you're at.
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Oh, 10-11, yeah.
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Yeah, it goes six, seven. We started really pushing on them. That was fun.
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Yeah, like the whole SCAR fucking thing was a fucking mess. Luckily, like, where we were at, Eli loves a scar. Talk shit about it. I hate it. They sent us 12 of the tests, and we broke every single one of them. The folding stock, you're like, with the stock open, it blows up, and springs go flying.
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fuck is this thing yeah it's government approved aka yeah so that's also a comp project but we fell under socom but we didn't have to follow there so we we went to 417 route with hk but yeah like outside of that we we had a lot of flexibility on what we used you know within within the law right but Yeah, we get to pick stuff. I've got you. Yeah. Like the whole 300 Black Owls.
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Like, hey, we have a problem. We need to solve this. So we go out to industry and help to solve that problem of
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I was thankfully mature enough to know that college was not in my near future to be worthwhile. So I'm like, hey, stay here and do nothing and hang out with the college or high school girls or join the Navy. So I went in and talked to him and he's like, oh, what do you like to do? Hunting, fishing, shoot guns and stuff. And he's like, oh, there's a poster like that thing you like skydiving like.
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It came from a problem set of needing a very quiet,
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solution to a problem five five six not there one of the guys in the office was talking well john john needs to come down here and do this stuff like talk about history stuff john knows all this stuff he built all my guns but uh john welcome on here yeah so the whisper stuff yeah he works for us now yeah kevin's just hiring the best of people that's what i love But it was a problem.
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We needed a subsonic solution to kill bad guys. The HEK MP5 9mm doesn't really do it. 5.56, you can't slow down enough to be subsonic and still be lethal. So some of the guys talking about whisper and John was talking about this and they, and it was about the same time Kevin was looking at it. And it just happened to be like the perfect storm of, we have a problem.
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They're, they're flexible and fast enough to solve this problem. And it gave us the 300 blackout, which everybody in the world has now. Right. So it's stuff like that. It's like, Hey, we have an issue, go out to industry and solve it. How was it? We're never really forced to like, so calm, tried to force that scar on and they did on the white side guys, but we never had to deal with it.
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The honey badger went to the green guys. We just, we rebuilt just essentially M4 uppers or we bought M4 uppers in the 300 black house. We just swap it out. Like, Hey, I got my recce gun. Now I got my, my 300 blackout upper or whatever it's going to be just plug and play.
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Yeah. So on the black guy, you could as a sniper, a recce guy up front, you could load top five rounds subsonics. And if it goes south, just roll right in your supersonics. And you have a round this fucking job.
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It's like 10, 10-11, something like that. Yeah, we used it. It's going to take over real fucking quick. And I guarantee it. Yeah, Blackout was... It was awesome. Especially because like our main... are what from a national mission force. Our main job was house of rescue at sea.
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So if I'm climbing over the side of a ship and there's 500 people on board, now we've got a 200 grain bullet that's going to go through a person, but it's not going to go through a wall or anything else. I can
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address an issue up close not worried about what's necessarily behind it and then having rounds bouncing down the hallway steel hallway that like a five five six round and really extremely loud in those environment I'm I'm assuming not the ear pro days that we have now yeah well I mean yeah suppressed everything is the way to go now I'm still in a steel suppressors when I was younger because my ears suck
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Never been skydiving, fucking 18 or whatever it was. Went about blowing shit up. I'm like, sign me up. What is it? So he's like, oh, seals. Here's the thing. Sign a contract. No clue what buzz. He didn't tell me anything about it. It was in the brochure. Like I get a little pamphlet, like 64 weeks or whatever it was. No idea.
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Knock on wood, I don't think we ever blew up an upper. We can fund some of this development. Like, hey, 5.56 is great for a lot of stuff, but like the old green tip bullets or FMJ bullets just don't fucking work on people. So let's develop a bullet that fits into the gun. Like we got a 77 grain, like 70 grain, like all these different variations of 5.56 that came out over the years.
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And that's what came into the short barrel .308 stuff was...
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iraq this was 05 06 we're in and out of vehicles like panders or strikers or whatever it is and it is literally like you feel like a dispatch right so we've got sr25s which are awesome guns but they're long as like i can't get in and out effectively i need to still kill people 500 yards so we just started chopping barrels like john's like oh here's a 12 inch barrel try that and
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weren't allowed to do that with our yeah so we went to a bunch of different variations and then like okay the sr as awesome as it is it's not going to be that solving that short barrel gas gun 308 that gives me that well what this does now but back then we were just experimenting and that led into the 417 you know the 308s and all the other that came out of that
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Which bleeds over into the civilian market all the time.
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High points? How was it? Did you like that movie? I keep saying I got to go back and watch it. So we're talking Cap Phillips. So I was part of that. Thankfully, I loved it. Of my almost 30-year career, there was two movies. Two missions where we brought Americans home that I was on. Like, Kevin Phillips won and then Jessica Lynch was the other one. Like, I was part of both of those.
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You were part of Jessica Lynch? One of, like, the hundreds of people there.
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Oh, yeah, now I'm playing one of the hundreds of people there. But all the stuff that we do, that's exactly where... But that's exactly why we do our jobs. Like, our job is to bring Americans home, right? Number one. Like, kill bad guys are awesome, but if there's a chance to bring an American home, we do that.
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Yeah, so Captain Phillips, I was forward deployed to Eastern Africa doing some work over there. Small team of guys. And my boss calls me. I'm in another country away from the rest of the guys doing some work for some three-letter guys.
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and my boss calls me it's like not like eight o'clock at night or something it's like hey are you watching news i'm like no sir obviously i'm not i'm working at the bar or wherever i was at so i get back to hotel turn news on my god i call him like do i gotta come back like what's going on No, just keep an eye on it. There's nothing we can do at this point. It's too far out to see.
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Like attrition rate or getting your ass beat, which is good because growing up in that farming community, I knew how to work hard. So when I got to California, it was like, Hey, just go do this, go do this. And by the time I realized how much it sucked, Like halfway through, I'm like, oh, okay, cool. Let's do this shit. Farm kids. Yeah, we're strong and dumb.
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Fast forward like 5.30 in the morning, phone calls like, we need you back here now. So I don't know if you guys have ever been to Africa, but it's not easy to get from one country to the next. All the time. It's one of our best. Nick, what's your passport?
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So unlike the movies, there's no black helicopters that are meeting me on the street and flying me to the embassy.
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You ain't got no legs.
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That's funny because I get that meme every year on my birthday. It's awesome. That's awesome. It's fun. I got good friends.
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get in there and get the debrief. And luckily the rest of my team, like my team, like six guys, they're doing the brief. I got my CCT, my PJ guys, they're briefing the Bainbridge because we're going to jump in, sit down, do the whole thing. And my boss at this point is like, hey,
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All we need to do, or your job until everybody else gets there, is just to keep Captain Phillips in the boat, out to sea. Don't let him get to shore. Because when you're out there, I have a self-contained little problem in a boat. We know what we have. It's control. It's a little bit of variables, but it's very dealable, or doable, or whatever you want to call it.
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English is not my... I need another one of these. You are the captain now. Get this man out of the track. Yeah, whatever it is.
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Yeah, fire it up. You're a senior. Yeah, so we get over there. We do the debriefs. We get all the way back across there, jump in the plane, fly to the coast, get all our gear, parachutes, guns, all that stuff. We jump in the airplane and we fly out. At this point, it's April. I think it's April. So April in Indian Ocean, there's a lot of thunderstorms. So you skydive before it.
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So then one of the number, well, there's a lot of rules I broke, but one of the rules was... In normal military freefall, you have to be able to see the DZ. And when we're jumping into the water, I have to be able to see my ground crew. So we're out there, we're buzzing out and we are like essentially the max range of what this aircraft will do. Pilot comes on, we do a couple of passes.
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I've got the sensor operators in the back and they're like, we can hear the guys on radio because we can we're talking to them. We know they're here somewhere. We just can't see them physically. And then we're doing a pass pilot goes on and say, Hey, we've we're about then go on fuel. We probably do another pass and then then we're going to come home. There's we have no other options.
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And about that same time, he's he's telling me that on radio clouds break a little bit. I see awake. Sensor operator slings it over a little bit and I just see the tail fan of the Bainbridge. I'm like, and Matt's on the back. We already got the green light to go because we know we're close. I'm like, go. So we just run out of there as fast as we can to skydive in and everybody's safe.
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And we made it to the boat and... What's the winds? We're like 4,500 feet or so. We're low.
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Yeah, look at this vacation they're sending me on.
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Yeah, go down. I don't know what the winds are.
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It's not the Marine Corps or the Rangers or any of that shit.
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In Indian Ocean. What? No sharks, no sharks.
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Because the boat hurts when you're skydiving. The water is soft. It's wet.
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Yeah, moving on the beach is awesome.
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not doing it man yeah it's funny because again like the rules that we maybe bent a little bit so i had two army guys that were with me in east africa and i i chose not to take them and i get for us all the time from the admiral now and some of the army guys and my justification at the time was these guys didn't have all the gear they needed we were jumping into the water at night.
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They never jumped into the water at night and had never jumped into the water period. Like it was stacking and then our parachutes throughout the day. Like there's a lot of like stacking compounding factors that like, that sounds so good. Like I just, we're, we're bending enough rules that I know the guys I've been training with where we can solve the problem.
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But now bringing the two guys that are unfamiliar with a lot of the stuff and the gear shortage and fluting, it just wasn't there. So I got a lot of shit for that. But I mean, it's probably the right call.
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That's like the reverse of being cool.
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For what we were doing, the problem we were solving, I had... Three other team guys, two other enlisted team guys, a JO that's new to the command, myself, and two Air Force guys, CCT and PJ. So for what we're doing to just keep the boat from going to the beach, we were fine.
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i get from it but anyway where i was oh so we get get picked up gun on the bain bridge and i'm a e7 i think at this time and jonas is uh he or no four brand new the command we climb up good talk to the the captain of the boat and he's like okay senior chief what do you want to do i'm like well i don't know we're going to keep the buildings like how do you want to do it like
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Not realizing what he's asking, he's like, I've been told that you are in command of this boat. So Jonas and I, we're in command of the two naval assets that are there. So you're the captain now. I was the captain. Holy shit. How the tides have turned. And I quickly advocated that back to the captain. I'm like, well, what would you do, sir? He's like, I would probably do this.
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I'm like, that's a pretty good idea. I'll trust your judgment on this.
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With all the other shit going on and he tells you that, you're like, how the fuck do I answer this? I don't know. I know nothing about a Navy ship other than it floats. And it's gray and there's a whole lot of miserable mothers on it.
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There's a whole big tuna can full of miserable dudes.
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I don't go on Reddit, so it's fine.
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Anyway, so we commenced to keeping the boat from going to shore and worked through. I probably shouldn't use names. Well, we lost him in extortion, so it doesn't really matter. Awesome dude. Awesome dude. And all those guys are awesome. Off track now. But anyway, so we get up there. We spend the next, I don't know, felt like three days doing it.
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It was probably like a cycle of darkness, but we got there. It's night. We got the ship. We're moving around. We're essentially playing cat and mouse. It's like, I'll use these big-ass fucking 8.6 bullets. So this will be good. Can't see it here. That'll be the lifeboat, and then this will be the big ship. All we're doing is keeping them pushed out to sea. They'd go around us and come back around.
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We would move the boat around and just keep them to our, it was a starboard side at that point. Just keep them out to sea. Just keep working around. They would slow down and we would spin back around like this. Is that one of Eli's bottle breacher things? It's not mine, but. No, Eli Crane.
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We kept doing this. Kept doing this. Now we're in the daylight. They're getting pissed off. They're out of cot because they chew the cot shit all the time. They're out of cot. They're running out of gas. They're getting pissed off. At the same time, we're talking to our negotiator in New York, the JTTF guys. They're talking to the tribal leadership on the beach.
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They're like slinging hay bales and picking rocks out of a field. I did like two weeks moving square bales.
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doing all this negotiation like hey we just want the captain back i don't give a about the boat or whatever else you guys can go do whatever you want to do it's working this and throughout that course a day maybe yeah later that day Like, they're out of cotton. Their batteries are running low on their radios. So we work through the negotiator. Like, hey, let's just resupply you.
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We don't have cotton, but we can bring cigarettes, new batteries, all this shit. They're like, okay, we'll do that. So my team, we dress up in our little... blue coverall Navy, not dungos, because they weren't dungos at that point, but blue coveralls, shove our shit down in the corners of the boat.
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And we're just like easing up to the back of the boat because we don't know where Captain Phillips is. This is post him jumping out of the boat, trying to get away at night. So they've got him in there somewhere. We don't know where he's at. So as we pull up, they crack the thing and come out. They're all potted up. Their eyeballs are all bloodshot.
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So the open door, he comes out, get the boat we're talking to and we're easing up. And then from my position in the rib, I can see Captain Phillips on the front left side of the boat. He's like rigor taped or flex cuffed to the boat or to the seat. Like, okay, perfect. They're not going to untie him to do whatever. So I know wherever we're doing, where he's at.
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And this is super sweet because as we go up there and we're talking to those guys and then we tell the captain, like, hey, captain, the guys from Virginia Beach are here. And like his demeanor just shifted. Like he understood with all the stress that he was going through, like what that meant. So it was super cool. We did this, pass it off.
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We fly around, we use the helicopters to kind of keep the boat and all this stuff that I don't even know if the helicopters were in a, in a movie, but so we launched helicopters that kind of keep them pushed out for a little bit.
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So somebody down below just correct us on that on the movie. Thank you. Like, subscribe, hit that bell notification. Yeah, all that stuff. More of Terry. All that stuff. So anyway, so then later that night, you know, the cavalry shows up. So the other squadron shows up. And it's funny because... I know I've been there long enough. I know what's happening.
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Like they deployed everybody to come do our first at sea hostage rescue. That exactly why we are who we are. And the captain calls me. He's like, hey, so how's it going? I give him the debrief. It's like, OK, cool. It's like, what do you need? I'm like, I don't. In the back of my mind, I'm like, they're taking over. But I'm like, I'm going to pull one. I'm like, you know, send me like six snipers.
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I think we got it fairly under control. And we'll be done with this by the morning. He just laughs at me. He's like, yeah. Okay, Terry, that's cool, but we're sending a true plus. I knew they were, but I was like, hey, one shot, I'm going to see if I can stay in charge of this thing. But they came over later that night.
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We debriefed them, gave them the video, told them exactly all this stuff, like what is going on. And at this point, my guys have been up for a while. So we're like, okay, let's go. These guys here, they have it. Take a nap, whatever else, down our gear. I don't know how long I'm asleep. Not long, but you get that kind of like, I wonder what the fuck's going on.
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Go by, and as I'm walking through the little back area of the Cura stage, I'm like, I don't see anybody. There's like nobody's in there. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? So I just happen to grab my nods and my helmet and my gun. I'm like, just natural, I guess, at this point. Go out to the fantail, and everybody's lined up in the the boat's undertow and it's dark out.
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And like, I see these guys laying down and my buddies, he's the troop chief for the sniper guys. Like, oh, perfect timing. We need, I want you to jump in here with this guy. Two guys per, at this point, we'd already pulled one of those guys off that stabbed himself. So we got three pirates, Captain Phillips, boat's undertow, it's at night. And like, everybody's online.
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It's like, okay, what are we doing? It's like, well, they're just like playing Papa Weasel. We get one up. and two up, then one will go down, and another one comes. It's just like this whack-a-mole shit. It's like if we ever get them, like all three, when we left Africa, that was the, or we jumped in, that was kind of our ROE.
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It's like if you can guarantee 100% that you can solve the problem, you guys can solve the problem. So I lay down and I'm probably not very long there. And it's like all of a sudden, like this guy's up, that guy's up, that guy's up. Everybody checks in like we're good. All right. Three, two, one. Boom. Problem solved. Guys slide for life down in there.
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Rescues Captain Phillips and the rest is a movie. Holy Jesus. Fuck, dude.
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It's funny because I'm like, I just happened to wake up. I'm like, oh, what the fuck's going on? I'm like, I better grab my gun just in case for whatever. I'm on a fucking boat. Why do I need my gun? I just happened, luckily, showed up at the right time and they had a spot for me.
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But I mean, yeah, everybody there was awesome. And I'll probably get shit because like, oh, fuck, we were there. And it's funny because
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That's what we train for. I mean, we train, and we learned this over the years, like we train at such a high level that no matter what happens on target or whatever it's going on, it's less than what we train to. So it's like, oh, not really stressful. Like, okay, lasers. It's fucking night. You got nods. You just hold a laser on a dude's head. It's like... Are you guys ready? Okay, let's go.
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How far of the shot was it? I mean... If you had to guesstimate. I've drank a lot since then, so somewhere in that 50 to 75, maybe.
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It wasn't a difficult shot at all. And that's what we train. We train that shit all the time. So it's like three, two, one, execute and done.
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The fuck? We can bring up Jessica. It was a thousand yard shot. That's what we're going with. Look at 2,500 meters there, Canadians.
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You make that shirt. Send me one.
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holy yeah but it's i mean it's awesome because that's exactly what we trained to do at the command i was at and had an opportunity to be there and i just happened to be luckily enough that i was there waking up with my guys and it just happened to be from well from day one even before we jumped in it's like it could have been anybody i just i got lucky it was my team yeah a hundred percent you guys made that effort and then you met tom cruise when you saved him
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A box of chocolates was all good. It was cool because after all the debrief and everything else, we had to go back to Africa. We jumped back on the Bainbridge, and then he goes with us because he's got to go back, get debriefed, and then fly home. So I spent the next day or so with him, and he's all wigged out, right? So we're playing Monopoly. I'm like, he's like, oh, just having a conversation.
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Because I know he's fucked up. I've already been on enough deployments. I know stress level. Where is that? Are you trying to let him get the blue hotel room?
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All it was is, like, keep his mind off it and let him just – we're just talking. We're just, like, two dudes hanging out and talking through. And then my guys would cycle in and spend some time with him. And I got him on the phone with the psychic back home and working through some stuff just to – but we get him back. He goes home.
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And then, like, two months later, we got our steel arena, and he shows up with his wife. And I'm there with my wife and my kids, and they all go hang out with Captain Phillips. And we're like, oh, buddy – or where were we then? I haven't talked to him since then, but – It was cool because he got to come back and meet all the other community around what we do. Oh, I thought you said something.
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Yeah. You're just like when I, so I went in, joined in January 92 for bootcamp and Go to boot camp, it's like one or two other guys are in the Dye Fair program or their EOD program, whatever it is. So we're going to go do our workouts with the little SEALs that are on base. You'll run and do push-ups and that kind of stuff, but it's kind of a little break from your boot camp stuff.
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He was telling me about it. And it's funny because like looking back and understanding what happened there, just like the WMDs, right? Like, oh, there's WMDs everywhere. And you go like, where the fuck are they? Same thing with her.
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Like there's 400 fucking fighters and you go to the hospital and there's remnants of them being there and there's planting cells and all this stuff, but they weren't there. So we planned for what we knew at the time, not the story that we got. And the same thing with like her getting an accident and people getting killed.
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And like, it's the story that the administration put out with the best knowledge they had at the time is not actually what happened. And she'll tell you, she went on to, I think she was on Andy's, Andy Stump's podcast and kind of like her perspective, what she knew happened. Vice what was released. This is 03. Like, we don't have... Like, when we went in there, it was... We went in early.
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The recce team, they flew us in, and we're, like, living in the fucking... With the Marines. And this is the first time I ever met a Marine one-star. In the fucking shitty desert of Iraq. Sand-blowing. Living out of a tent. Underneath a vehicle. Like, in a junkyard. Launching fucking howitzers. We get out of the fucking Humvee, and there's a one-star fucking general there. Like...
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Who the fuck are you? He's like, this is my unit. We're killing dudes. The hardcore general out there. He's like, what's up, dog? I fucking love you guys. Holy shit. And we base everything for her off of just human. Like, we don't have ISR. We don't have SIGINT or any of this stuff. It's like... people coming in and saying, Hey, I saw this, or I saw this. And it's fun.
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I got to get a picture to her. I don't know her, but because we drove by that, that room, then when, in that podcast, she talked about being in a little building by herself for like 12 hours, we drove by that building. Cause we had heard that, Something was there. Drove by, there's nothing going on. So we're like, oh, that must not be the right one.
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So I got to get her that picture of that building. But she most likely was there when we drove by, by herself. Don't tell her that. Just hide that. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, we didn't know anybody.
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For any of those humans, human intelligence is like, who's paying the bill? Like, especially in Afghanistan, like, I don't like you, so I'm going to make up some story about how much of a terrorist you are. And the agency's going to give me a bunch of money, and my friends are going to come kill you. Mr. Mister, this is a very good neighborhood.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
So it's like very unreliable, and it's like single source, like the worst kind of stuff. So it's like, oh, well, it doesn't look like anything. We'll just keep on looking. And that's which led, you know, the doctor kind of led us to the hospital. And that all worked because we hooked him up with the camera and we, yeah, now we know what's going on. No shit.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Yeah, but you still don't really know what you're signed up for. Go to A school, same kind of thing. Work out with a couple guys that are in the program. Then you show up to California, you're like, oh, fuck, what's this? This is cool. And then by the time the water starts getting really cold and the sand starts really rubbing your vagina quite a bit, you're like, fuck.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I love bombs. They're awesome.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
What did you say? Bat bomb? The bat bomb. Oh, my God.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Oh, fuck, I'm in.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
But then you're like halfway through and you already made friends at this point. So you don't want to quit and let your friends down. And it's kind of funny. I mean, it's really, it's hard, but it's easy. And the fact that...
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
It's like proof of concept, right?
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I'm not going back to boot camp, but I wanted this program.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
It's like simple, but not easy. Cause it's like every single day, like, Hey, we're going to do this today. You're going to run four miles. We're going to feed you at this time. Like you didn't have to think until you got through hell week, which at the end of the day is kind of fun when it sucks really bad. And then you get afterwards, you're like, Oh, that's kind of cool.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I mean, that's why he's going to hit us. So we cancel it.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Yeah, I learned about the pigeon. Not something you want to do on your work computer.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
No, I'm not familiar with the foul landmines. Or missiles, or rockets, or bombs.
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Anything bird-related I'm not familiar with.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Yeah, then you start learning stuff. Like, okay, we got you to the point where we know you're not going to give up when things get hard. Now we can start teaching you. Like teach you how to scuba dive, teach you how to, you know, the rebreather, the draggers, and then teach you how to shoot guns. Like, yeah, it just starts to get fun at that point.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
That was the trailer for it.
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I'm not sure I'm on board with that one. That seems a little... They weren't either.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Not with a nuclear landmine. Yeah, that's a little... It's a giant landmine. Incendiary bats, that's fucking awesome.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Nuclear cocks are not what I want to get to.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I'm fascinated by stuff like this when guys are deep dive into subjects.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I did just come out here.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I'm just going to come down to Iowa and we're just going to sit and drink beers and talk about fucking bombs or whatever.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
How many times do you think he read that number? Like...
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Oh, yeah. When you first show up there and you walk in, you check in, like, Seaman fucking who you in checking in for buds? And you look out in the grinder, because you checked in at the quarterdeck back then, and you see this dude just getting fucking worked. You're like, who are these guys? And that's the class in front of you, and you see the helmets lined up, and you're like,
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
happened to those guys like they quit like what what happens then like you don't want to know like oh yeah okay i guess i'm not quitting because this big strong dude told me i don't want to know 19 at this point yeah i think i turned 19 in buds yeah turn 19 in buds or something like that there's no internet 19 in a school or something in 20 buds but yeah still baby
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Anyway, besides the fact, there's nukes over there.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
In the water.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Think about all the other shit we lose.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
So it was very similar to the movie where how many, how many dicks can you do that again?
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I think there's a way to test safety without actually launching.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
What the hell do you know?
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
There's definitely left atmosphere.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Oh, yeah. There's no books. There's no nothing. I think the Charlie Sheen movie had come out prior to that, but we watched it in bootcamp. It was like the first time I saw it. I'm like, oh, fuck. This is what I signed up for. Hell yeah. I want to shoot through walls with 50s and stuff.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
We're gonna come visit real quick and just starting to get out of hand a little bit the amount of UFO sightings that are around nuclear test sites are stacked Like pay to hunt a pirate was hey aliens pay to come down and watch how stupid Back off there those launched shit at you, you know, like you know, you know aliens gave us that technology, right?
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
So he's your drunk uncle.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I think it was because of US forces on Guam. If we staged too many there, it would tip the island over. Yeah.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
That's who you voted for. Yes.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
shipped out here we go but it's funny because like i didn't know shit like there's no information out there was no reddit like come full circle my last job was running our pre-buds pipeline up in chicago the guys kids would come from boot camp come over and they would be in my house for eight weeks to learn how to get back in shape and learn mentally and physically kind of get ready for it like there's so much bad information out there on like what what year is this sorry
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
When I get like level four cancer and it's like, it's gone. Fucking load me up. I'm working everything.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Like I watch that on all the different things like conflict observer and all this. I'm like, I'll be scared. Like just following around, like just stalking you. Like I see you. There's nothing I can fucking do about you. There's some 14-year-old Russian that grew up playing video games. It's like, fuck you, America. I'm just going to murder you. There's no value in life.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
He's just like, oh, wow, this is how video games work. I'm going to do it.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
He's doing exactly what he's been doing since he was five, playing video games. Yeah. There's no emotion. There's like... Screen to screen, whether it's a video game player or a person, to him it doesn't matter.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
So that was, I went up there in 2015. So my last three years, 2015 and 2018, I was up there running that school. But there's so much bad information. They get there and they start cheating right away. And they're still in the Navy. Cheating? How do you cheat? Well, there's no reason to cheat in pre-buds. It's like super simple, right? Anyway, they would like try to cut corners. I had to drop.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Like, the worst week I've ever had up there, I dropped 44 kids in one class because they were forging their Navy PQS. Like, I know how to clean my room and to clean the barracks so I can go on leave or liberty for the afternoon. Like, they can't go on liberty anyways. It doesn't fucking matter why you're cheating. So they got busted. The mass chief of the base called me.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
So I got to call the mass chief of Warcom, like my senior E9 that I work for. I'm like, hey. Chief, this is what's going on. He's like, well, what do you want to do? I'm like, well, right now they're not even in NSW yet, right? They haven't gone to BUDS yet. They're still in the Navy. I'm like, if we were preaching character and integrity, in my right mind, I can't let these guys go.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Terry, where do we find you, you beautiful son of a bitch? The only thing, and I shouldn't even do it anymore, Instagram. And they've got me so locked. So here's a challenge for your followers. Go break fucking Instagram and follow me because I am in the shit hole. Locked down. Nobody can find me and all this stuff. So Terry.Huyen, follow me. Break Instagram. Fuck Meta.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
We'll put it up on the screen.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Yeah, I'm that. I'm like Q. I'm at Field Ethos and just having a fucking ball. Perfect.
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That was great. Try not to say anything too crazy. That's going to give me shit talking, but whatever. Thank you, brother. Love you guys.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Like, it's just not the right thing to do, especially at this level. Like, they've been in the Navy for, like, four weeks or whatever. Like, if we're letting them go with, like, basic entirety shit from here, it's like, we can't do it. So it's, like, fucking miserable, like, signing, like... kicking 44 kids out of this class. I'm like, one by one, I've got to have.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I was like, started with like typical class would start about 200 or so. That's the SEALs or the SEAL candidates, the SWCC candidates. We would have a handful of fleet returnees that are going or maybe a couple of transfer, like Marine guys that are going to go to BUDS. So every enlisted guy that went to BUDS at that point came through that schoolhouse. So roughly 200 or so.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
So typically we only lose like eight to 10 max.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
on a like a big class for the pre for buds yeah i mean the attrition rate for buds is i don't think it's changed much like one percent maybe it's like it's still 80 of the kids aren't making it through when you went through versus when you're an instructor were the class sizes different or were they was like yeah smaller i think i think we started my first phase with 120 ish somewhere in that ballpark and
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
We graduated 22, 21, 22, and 14 of those were the original class that didn't get rolled back. So now they're starting like 180 to 200. I don't know what it is now, but it's much higher numbers.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Retired. Retired.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
When I go back 20 years later as an instructor or observer, I'm like, it is scripted to the second. Like, okay, we're going to have the guys in the water at this time. It's 52 degrees. The wind is this. They can only be in the water for 68 seconds. It's like down to the second. I don't know shit. As a student going through, and you don't know this, like, yeah. They can't kill me? No. Yeah.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
But no, but for that one, it was that kid had been taking stuff that he shouldn't have taken. And it was a whole lot of other stuff that was self-induced. And anyway, Navy tried to pin it on some guys, but it, yeah. Anyway, it's a big story that I don't want to get in details. I don't want to know all the details too much.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I would say yes or no. And this is how I would say is like, yes, I had a better off cause I had no clue I was getting into and I just sucked it up and did it. Now the kids, like the access to information, like physically and mentally, these guys are fucking way out of my, like, I wouldn't even probably classify for a, for a contract now.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Like we're getting our average kids coming in at the time was 22, 23, 60 to 70%. I'm already had a four year degree. They understood nutrition. They understood how to work out. Like, In the 90s, we were just breaking dudes because we were like, oh, fuck, let's just run faster if we've got to run faster or run farther. That was when it was like drinking water. You're like, that's her.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Yeah, you show up to Team 4. You're like, fuck, we're going to party until 4 a.m. and then get up and run for eight miles or whatever. It's like not smart from a longevity standpoint. Yeah. I think today's candidates across the military are much smarter, much more capable than we were. Asia information really does.
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194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
I mean, it's just I mean, what we've learned from like 9-11 just on longevity of the operator side of it.