Tegan Broadwater
Appearances
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Wow.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Well, the tag on that question is profound, of course, but I think no is the answer, but it depends on to what extent. If you work for a company that essentially makes its hay on the back end, bullying people into doing business and it's some kind of illegal whatever, and you work for that company knowing that that goes on, there's some culpability that goes on.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But obviously there are extremes in how people act in terms of who's the most violent, who's just a kind of a connector. There's always those guys that I would run into that just know all these fools, but aren't really at a level to where they can just make a perfect introduction. In terms of enforcement, a lot of those guys that are the most violent end up either being
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
knocked out in prison or running the show. If they're smart, Mike Kingpin was involved in several murders. but was out and had gotten smart and was running stuff to where this dude's never got his hands on anything. So he's running from a ghost. Everybody knows who he is, but he's not driving to houses and delivering stuff.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
He's dealing with the Mexican Connect, pulling in 250K a week, moving product in this one part of town. It's just pretty unbelievable.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
That's a great question because when you talk about how organized the business is, these guys at the top got really smart. There's a reason why you're involved in several murders and you're a strong arm and you're smart enough to be a leader, but you're not driving a freaking Porsche around with 21-inch wheels and Whatever, drawing attention to yourself. Sure.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So these guys are living in modest houses, driving okay cars and just doing their thing. And the lower on the totem pole you get, the more you see the money being squandered. We had an informant in one of my cases where we ended up paying him like 50K for all of his help. He'd helped us for several months doing this one case and took him two months to spend the 50K.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, some of them. There's some rogue undercovers and there's some straight-up trained everything-by-the-book undercovers. I've talked to a number of them. And there's been a bunch of books out there, too. Some of those are also trashed. But when I did my research, I figured it was kind of a cop-out, no pun intended, to get yourself to do the dope and then get stuck on it. I don't get it.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And this is a guy that lives in a rental in the hood. And it was just a shame. He bought two cars that ended up getting loaned out and stolen. And then he bought a kilo. And I was like, dude. When you get to that point, you're like, yes, there's a level of sophistication, but ultimately they're not applying themselves to really learn how to run a true business.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
They just outpower each other along every part of the path and then don't really have that financial responsibility unless you're one of those kingpins.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, there has to be. And I swore because of the amount of money that was coming in, I swore that when my kingpin went down, that money was somewhere. We were raiding little storage places that we found in associates' names, everything that was completely empty, cleaned out. And all of a sudden, his wife is starting to deal with these same people at the same level and picking up where he left off.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I think I'm thinking, man, she's not... equipped to do this. And within a couple of months of the roundup, because they hadn't even transferred or completely tried and sent to their long-term federal facility, she got whacked. And so I'm thinking, okay, now the money's really somewhere. Because at one point you thought, well, he's handing her the reins and she's going to continue this business.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Then there's still active money somewhere. But when she's gone... That's sitting somewhere. It's not like she handed it off to somebody because she didn't expect to die that night. So I think there still might be some money somewhere. But as you know, too, it's difficult.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
You go do 30 years in Fed and then get out and all of a sudden dig up some kind of treasure and then pretend you're going to live an honest living and start with that kind of money. That's also really a sophisticated process.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, that's a sophisticated move. And again, at every level, you're talking about something else. And again, this was a big city gang. They were trying to infiltrate. So that was their primary method of infiltration. I don't have to have a job because I'm part of the market here.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But it wasn't like some kind of ingenious thing where they're just doing the dope game and somebody at the top is just doing their thing and then stepping out and bugging, taking their winnings and moving to another country or something. It just didn't work like that because they were all homies still.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I just thought... Man, the easiest way to get in is to just be willing to say, okay, well, then that's fine. I'm going to go down the street and find somebody else to do business with.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And if you're really cornered, I just set myself up a little background to where I literally would go show up downtown courthouse every Saturday for a few minutes and be seen with everybody that's standing in line on probation to go take their piss test.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
That sounds kind of Nordic, suspiciously.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, of course. And that's really the beauty of undercover, because I think the studying that I did and the cases that I read about and the people that I talked to in terms of how they managed to succeed in cases and fail in cases, everybody kept saying, you've got to modify your behavior and try to fit into this group and that group.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And it was difficult for me to even get into the narcotics unit or to do some of that stuff because I'm just a big white stiff. And we have these Poor minority neighborhoods that are having all these crime issues and we need somebody that can fit into the profile or whatever. And I'm like, man, that's just not how it works.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah. And I'd say, well, I'm not going back because of you because you want to give me some kind of test. And then people can vouch that they've seen me there before.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
They've made some exceptions. I don't know if it's widely accepted, but again, they have so many sects throughout a lot of those things that you'll find some Hispanic folks. Occasionally you'll find some white folks, but I would say 95, 96% African American. But if I showed up fat, wearing gold and tats all over my face and some missing teeth and maybe some teardrops, I probably could have died.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
tried to get an association, but that wasn't really my goal anyway. I almost got more information fitting in by standing out because I thought, I'm not just white.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So I just thought, man. Your refrigerator light gives you a sunburn. Yeah. wasn't making buys from the small time guys. So the easiest way for me to start was to go down onto the blocks and take somebody with me that did fit a little bit more over the profile and say, I'm new to town, but I'm not here to play. This isn't my game. I do powder cocaine.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I don't do any hard stuff or whatever, but I'm just hooking my boy up over here. He's trying to get his game going. And I would make it all about him that asked me a bunch of questions. I'm not going to ask you questions. You have to ask me, no, this is all about him. You can ask him the questions that you want.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And I'd pull in and he would make an order for some crack cocaine and then they would come over and bring it to him. And then I would hand him the money and we'd make that transaction that way. I'm pretending like I'm trying to be the one that's being extra cautious. I see.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I'm going to fight your cautiousness with my cautiousness saying, look, yeah, I'm actually not ready to do this because my game is way above your head.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, in this case, it's exactly what it was. It was somebody that was trying to work a case off. Those are really hit and miss. But this was a perfect way for me to get in because I could be seen at least doing something where everything went without a hitch.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And I was also being uber cautious is normally in the blocks that we're talking about where they called the fishbowl nose little six square block area. I mean, you know, white people coming down there to do any business. It was just, it was a gang haven.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And the only other people in there that weren't gang affiliated were just trying to make it, but had to live with all this violence in a prostitute hotel at the end of one of the entrances, one way in, one way out. So I just thought, everyone thought it was presumptuous anyway, that I even had the plan. My boss laughed. My informant laughed. We're sipping whiskey at each other. Really?
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
He just laughed his ass off. That's not a good sign. You know, the city council and the chief of police and the mayor had all said, all right, this is a nuisance. This area is a big problem.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And we need to do something about it. And so they started doing all the typical things, jump outs and writing warrants and hitting dry holes. What's a jump out? Just driving an unmarked van into the thing and all of a sudden, you know, 10 cops bail out and just try to grab everybody that's running. That doesn't sound super effective. Yeah. But what do I know? You'd be surprised.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It was kind of a mass waiting room. It wasn't literally a line, so I could be there and then walk back to the bathroom or whatever. People would just kind of see that I'm there, but not know what order I'm going.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And when you're talking low levels, you can get somebody that's got something in their pocket that's running and you end up finding them. They'll give up something. Oh, I see what you mean.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
This is like the Giuliani stop and frisk type of stuff. You pull up and then you just hop out of the van. When everybody starts running, you're saying stop because you know that it's an active drug selling area and then people are running. So you have a reason to at least- Stop them and ask questions at that point.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Anyway, none of that stuff was working because there was too much information back in there to where there was too much heat.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Law enforcement deemed it the fishbowl because every time you went in, we went in too deep if you're answering calls down there or whatever, because it was just a super violent area in a generally violent part of town. It was just a really focused part. Where is this literally in the United States? It is in Southeast Dallas, Fort Worth area. I see. Okay. Every city has a similar area.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Fort Worth is what, the 10th largest city in the US. And everything is predicated upon the way that the practices are handed down when they started here in LA. Once you get through the prison systems, then that's where you accumulate more intel, more people that you can put out on the streets and you can take this set and now start a Texas chapter essentially and do that kind of thing.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
No. And at some point, people are like so off put by gang violence of like, let them go kill each other. That's fine if there's no collateral damage. The fact is, you have people that have been living there for generations and they're old and poor and just trying to make it. And they can't just up and move. So it's not as simple as that.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And then you've got these kids that are leaving the home and living six deep with an aunt next door. And all of a sudden they get a quick way to make a buck. And then they turn into something. But by the time they're in their mid-20s, they'd be part of the enterprise.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And it's just bringing this nuisance and danger around all these other people that are trying to raise kids and do whatever they can. And that's really the motivation anyway in this whole thing. That's why I swore to my wife, this is going to take me three months, I think, to get through it. I already had my target list.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Thought I could get this knocked out in three months and at least make some good cases and get these people out of that part of the neighborhood and clean it up and see if they'll sell the houses off and then leave the people that are just trying to survive. I think it's the misconception about any poor part of town is where the crime is very high.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It's still a very small percentage of people who are committing the crime. That's sad.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
That seems dangerous. It's the best and worst part about it, it really is, because I really just had to wing it. But I really did a ton of research. I read and spoke to people about how they did things and everything else. That's why I said it seemed... so contrived the way everybody did it because I don't think there are enough people that are truly trained.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, that was one of the guys that was a part of the Crips, but again, was robbing other Crips. He was just going against the whole code. So he eventually robbed one of the upper echelon guy's parents. Jeez. And tried to get them to search in the attic. One of the dads in a wheelchair and everything. It was a really pathetic scenario. Jeez.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Just super, super brazen about the way he went about things. And they didn't just kill him.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Essentially was a gang beef, but you do see somebody that's out on the street and I would get a lot of it because they're just testing me too. They just think I was naive in the beginning until they thought that I was some kind of big timer. They'd say, man, I got this kilo, 11K and get it. And I'm thinking, who'd you steal that from? Yeah. Cause it's too cheap. Is that what that is? Yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
That's somebody that steals your car and then tries to resell it at a 10th of the value just to unload it. No, thanks.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I'm going to assume that's a lot because it sounds like a lot. That was part of my motivation to get into the narcotics unit because, again, I'd been turned down three times. I didn't get into the fourth time. My interviews went great. I knew all the laws.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And so all I could do in order to really get it with the issues that they had and they were looking for a profile is to just outperform and show that I can accomplish this stuff anyway. So then I show up and I say, I have six informants on the books. I've done this many buys. I've done this many warrants. So I would do these small time warrants.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I got a team that's SWAT certified and we'd go do our patrol stuff. And then after patrol, I would show them where I'd made the buys during the shift, and then we'd go hit a house and then tear everything and find all the evidence and whatever. And they were just small-time dope houses that NARCs didn't want to hit because they're looking for bigger stuff.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But it was a good experience for me because, again, we're using hand-me-down SWAT stuff. It's all expired.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Obviously, we didn't take it too seriously.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, it was obviously not the steel plates, but apparently they replaced all their stuff. And then we took these old used up helmets and whatever. Let's just stay on my Kevlar. Don't worry about it. This old van, sometimes the van would break down halfway on your way to the location, this piece of junk vans. We didn't have much of a budget to work with.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But again, I was just efficient at making either covered buys using an informant or learning how to do a little bit more undercover on a small scale, doing little small deals and then getting into those houses later to build evidence afterwards.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But just the fact that you can drive a van up and get in the stick and execute it, a dynamic search warrant, kick the door down and do it was great experience. And that was part of the inspiration, too.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
You know, the Scott Paynes and the FBI training programs and stuff like that. I learned from those. Then you have the other guys just go off on a wild hair and kind of disappear and come back and they're addicted to stuff because they were just willing to do whatever to get through the case.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Seriously bad. I don't know where they even got it from, but they were like, here, y'all can use this. Because we were doing a good job hitting these places on a regular basis. And the fact I would go in and make buys on Monday. write the warrant, hit the place on Tuesday, do the catch-up stuff and file the paperwork for my next one on Wednesday and hit another house on Thursday.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And to the point where the hood came to me and my informants were like, hey, they call it Task Force Tuesdays and Thursdays. I'm like, oh, really? Am I that predictable? Yeah, yeah, wow. So that's when we were doing just the small-time stuff, but I was just trying to hit as many places as I could. Again, just to...
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
When I go in for my interview, I can say, okay, I've got a couple hundred warrants I've done, and this is the case. This is what we've gleaned from those cases. These are my informants. I've learned how to work them. And I'm not working in a bright white neighborhood just trying to bust TCU kids. I just showed that you don't have to fit a profile necessarily to- TCU's college kids?
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I wouldn't have been willing to throw the case away, but I just sometimes I was overly creative to a fault where I just had too many little things I was trying to plan. But I leveraged that in order to get around some of those pitfalls that I see everybody else falling into.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And those are interesting because those are a little bit sniffing entrapment. When you really are like, nah, I'm completely retired. And you're like, come on, man, just one more time. Just do it. I know you're not doing it anymore. I mean, that's a little bit of a different situation. And it wasn't a cop. It was a snitch anyway, but...
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But that was a while ago, too. The 90s, yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
A lot of people don't recognize how bad... Marijuana was looked upon back in the 90s, and you go back to the 60s, and there's people doing 20-year stints for a half a pound of marijuana. I mean, obviously, the culture has shifted.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Even in places like Texas and Florida, where they'll be the last to get on board, they still don't really enforce a lot of stuff because they just don't play, unless you're walking around with weight, obviously, but somebody like that. And interestingly, the way you describe the college kid is a lot of how these people
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Whether they be gangbangers or just drug dealers in this poor neighborhood fall into the same situation because they'll say, hey, man, you know, I'm 19 years old. I'm just trying to make it. I need to get through this. But they can't afford a college. They're just trying to save up to do this. But what's readily available is crack and they can make even more. And it makes you wonder, well.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
If crack were available in some of the ritzy more places, you could do weed and make a little bit. But if you decided you wanted to crack, also, like, there's 200 people around here that would totally buy it from you. Would you do that for, you know, risk the felony, knowing that there were plenty of people on your neighborhood blocks that would feed you that money? Yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It makes it an interesting thing for an immature kid who just... It's a thought experiment, man.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
That's so whack, though, too. He's really putting his entire future.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Even if you get out, you're still screwed. You can't go back and try it again. I mean, you're done. It's probably really hard to get a job as a tenured professor if you have a cocaine felony on your record. Even if it was 30 years ago. I mean, it's pretty amazing how punishing those felonies can be.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
For me, I honestly just, what I've learned from the people who are really successful in real long-term undercover work, which is different than going to buy something and then make it a buy bust, are that you keep a personality type that is really close to your own.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And I think it was just proven of the fact that when I was trying to get in the narcotics unit and I was figuring out how to make these buys and figuring out how to convince people to do what it was, it was just all about leveraging my own personalities.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Instead of trying to memorize 50 different things and then when they start asking you these 20 questions, you're messing them up because you're trying to remember who you're supposed to be and all this kind of stuff. It makes it... worse.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
In an exigent circumstance, I don't want to have to think of A through Z. Yeah, you want to be congruent under stress, right?
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Makes defense a little more easy, for sure. Yeah, and it's not just credibility. Again, it's state of mind at that point. Like, okay, you did it. Now you're under the influence of something that's been proven, blah, blah, blah, which is why you're even in this.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So I want to know that these things are high and tight and I just can worry about A through C and make some strategic choices at that point. And then, so I just give myself less to think about it because it's stressful, even in a successful deal or a successful day hangout, it's still stress.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And that's when it would even come into play, because what I found, before I got into it, I had everything set up. My backstory's kind of set, I've got these IDs, and I just kept thinking... I don't know when I'm going to use an ID. Anyway, these people ask to see my ID. I'm going to be like, are you freaking kidding me? You want to see my ID?
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It's interesting because obviously all that stuff gets handled. And there's been scenarios where people have been shaken down and they're in a place where they can't leave and they've got to recite stuff, and it's just kind of the way you're stuck.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So it's necessary, but in general, if you're playing that game, a lot of these guys amongst themselves, I don't really know what this dude's full name is. I know he's this, and I've known him since first grade, but I really don't know his whole name. His name is Jackbox, but I don't know if his real name is John?
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, it's amazing. So for them to start asking, that's another way that I got in a lot easier is when they start giving me the 20 questions, I would immediately just resort to, man, I don't mind answering a little bit, but we're not going here. I'm a professional and you obviously haven't done this enough to understand how this works. And it doesn't work by me giving you a bunch of information.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
You don't ask me anything. If you want to do business, cool. If you don't want a business, also cool, because I got other places that I can go do business.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah. It sounds like a really creative kind of way to just do something subtly to just bolster your own.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I know. I compare it to like jumping out of a plane with a parachute and you're not sure how to work it, but you just figure it out. Once you're out of the plane, you got to figure it out. Once I got into the case, a lot of those things that I ran into, I couldn't anticipate. But I knew that a lot of the typical things might happen. Somebody's going to brandish a gun.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Somebody's going to pull a gun on me or whatever, try to search me. They're going to ask to do dope.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
All those things, I would run through as much of it as I could and try to figure out how can I manage to maneuver through those situations ahead of time so that, again, I don't get caught flat-footed and stutter over myself trying to think of what I'm supposed to say because I've thought through a lot of those scenarios.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, well, of course you are. And if you're talking about the guy that walked out in front of the car.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
That's why I wonder if a lot of people could do a lot of this stuff. You have to stay cool. I was staying cool. But of course, in your mind, you're running through scenarios because I'm thinking I'm basically sitting on my piece because it's out of a holster, but sitting under my thigh. But obviously, if he's already... brandishing something, I'm not going to get it in time.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So I've got to start thinking strategically about how I'm going to do stuff. But typically, you just want to engage in some kind of conversation and figure out what he wants. Because again, he's just talking a bunch of bullshit at this point anyway. So you're like, again, I'm supposed to be coming in as somebody bigger and better than these guys are used to.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Because I'm new, but man, I've been through this game before and you guys are the novices. So I'm just playing it off like that. But yes, my brain is running through 800 things because again, I'm stuck there and thinking, okay, well, I'm half trapped in this thing. But if I can talk to him, maneuver myself out of the card where we can be mono-y mono, that's great.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But then if that's the case and I end up Having a piece prepared and he's got eight other dudes that are also standing here, that's also not advantageous to be out of the car. Do you think I'm just going to run over this dude? That's where some of your training does come in.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Those scenarios where you've run where people are coming up and doing these fake deals at the window and telling you to try to figure out what you're going to do and you try to shoot somebody and you get wax bullets peltering all over the back of your neck, which don't feel good.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I never thought about that. Oh, dude. They'll leave good old whelps, too. Yeah, you wear protective equipment. They get through the little crevices and do some damage.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It's essentially cocaine before it's cooked down into crack. And essentially, crack is like a purified high and a really fast high, and that's what went into the poor neighborhoods through the 80s when it was created. But my objective in that instance was to try to move beyond the crack because what I wanted were the suppliers.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So I want when you come in with bricks of cocaine, you're not buying bricks of crack. You're creating the crack from those bricks. So it's like baking powder and it's like crap. eat and buy at the grocery store.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So they either step on it or make it pure, however they're going to break it down. But my objective at that point was to move past them because you're dealing with crack. By the time somebody's bought it, they've already sent it to a house to cook. They've broken it into a hundred pieces and now you're giving it to me. I'm not interested in that.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So by not being interested, first of all, culturally, it made sense because I don't really have a game where people are looking for hard is what they call it at the time. Hard as crack or hard as cocaine? Hard as crack. And the powder was the cocaine powder. And then my objective, again, was you need to introduce me to the guy you get it from, ultimately. I see.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, well, it all breaks down into you turn $100 into a million dollars pretty quick when you break it down into all those pieces. Like you would anything else, you sell a car part by part. It's a lot of work. But once you sell it part by part, it's worth a lot more than just buying the car in the first place. So it's the same concept. But my objective, again, it was difficult in a drug case.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It would be something that I could try to just work straight up that chain. But the problem was for me that even when I had somebody that was helping me get what I needed, I still had to figure out a way around that to go to somebody else because this wasn't a drug case. It was a gang case.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So I'm thinking, okay, I've got all these gang members that are all connected and affiliated and they're doing this business. This guy's kind of doing me righteous. He's getting powder, but I still need to move on to somebody. So I'm trying to find excuses to say, man, I can't trust you anymore and move on to somebody else who he's affiliated with.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
and still not have somebody get totally pissed off because I'm trying to create a case where I'm locking in a bunch of gang members, not necessarily just, oh, I finally got the dope I want and we can close the door now.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah. Yeah. And especially these days when people don't trust cops anyway.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I both benefit and lose some traction. And the benefit was things like that, because that was still the word on the street. They would ask you. I would ask them. I would leverage that same thing. Are you a cop? You know, you got to tell me. I would say the same thing to people that I was meeting because I had to pretend to be very suspicious, too, because I'm supposed to be the guy.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Contrary to that, though, at the period of time when I was doing this was the 2005 through 2008. In this particular case, there wasn't super sophisticated equipment. There was new equipment coming out, but it wasn't super reliable. And so when it comes to the wires you wear, they tape it to your chest in the movies and all this kind of stuff.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Put on a T-shirt. That's what it was. That sucks. Yeah, it totally sucks. It's like a tape recorder on your chest. Can you please do better than this? Oh, that's scary. So I never wore a wire for that reason because I thought it's the most obvious freaking thing ever. All you have to do is even just messing around, just kind of shove me and be goofing around and figure out what's going on here.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah. That's terrifying. I tried all kinds of other things. They had some things that were on key chains and I used my phone. At the time, the phone just had a limited amount of space. You get 60 seconds. Dude. And yeah, I was literally recording one deal in the back of a car and it went off like some kind of alarm, like it had run out of space on the recorder. And I had to figure out like-
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Well, I imagine it's on the prosecutory end, really, where that would come out, I think, because when you have cases like mine where, you know, you've got these hand-to-hands and firsthand accounts of things they were saying that were incriminating, and mine was obviously, I used dope, but it was a gang case, so even a lot of the things that they would say incriminatingly to me that were used as evidence were things that...
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It depends on the type of questioning. I've gotten some where they're just rattling off questions. I just say, man, you obviously are a novice. You've never done this before because you don't ask somebody questions like that. If you're really in business to do real business, that's not how it works. Other times, like I said, I would pull up vouching for him and blah, blah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
You heard about him and everything else. And then I would slow the game down before this guy starts saying, hey, man, good to meet you. I'm going to this and this. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I got a few questions. I want to make sure your source is straight. Have you dealt with so-and-so before? Because this is where I'm getting to you. That's great. I'm glad you know him.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But do you know my guy over here, too? I also need to know that I'm connecting people that I trust to you. But careful questioning. I didn't ask idiot questions. Some of the low-level folks would ask. Let me see your ID. Can you prove that you're really who you are? I'm not going to ask you to prove who you are either.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
For doing this illicit game, then the idea is your best friend is saying I'm cool and vice versa. So let's do business. I don't need you to have incriminating information on me. I want to do business. In that kind of world, it's ideal to know only so much.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So the only way that I really would get great information on these guys is, of course, to just figure out who they were, where they stayed, and then grab a license plate on my way out and then to work backwards because I had a little more sophisticated technology to work with in terms of figuring out exactly who they were, pull up a mugshot. I'm like, okay, I know exactly who this dude is, but...
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Even then, it was a lot less of a thing for those guys to be able to just get online, spend 20 bucks and figure out who I was necessarily.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And so the way cops work most of the time, people talk about tradecraft. I'm like, man, I think this is just so obvious to bad guys, too, anyway. But most cops are not doing long term undercover work. They're doing short term deals are going to knock this guy down. If he gives up somebody else, they might go there. And then two days later, they're knocking everybody down.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
They just take what they can get. You don't accept no for an answer when you're a cop working short term stuff like that, because you only have one shot at this. You're just trying to get it over with. Even if it is a massive deal, it's a massive deal. And it only happens once because the serendipitous situation is about to happen. So they're trying to make this deal happen.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
My old approach was the opposite. I'm like, I'm happy to walk from this because what they really want is my money. And I say, well, you're not going to get my money until I'm absolutely positive that this is going to work. So the cops will typically just try to push a deal to go forward. And I just leveraged the complete opposite and was the first to say, you know what? That's okay.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
You can keep asking questions, but I'm done here. I'm not interested. Don't worry about it. You keep whatever you're going to keep and I'll just get out of here.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It's almost compared to, again, in a normal business situation. And you would know this, too, being the master of nothing in terms of relationships and things like that. You don't just walk up and meet somebody and then start pitching stuff. Oh, yeah, definitely not. It's the same type of thing, really, because that's the human nature part.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Because if you knew for sure I was a goldmine and I knew for sure this is the best deal ever, we would just do it. But that's never really the case. But the only way you've determined it's a goldmine is because, man, I've really gotten to know you. I really appreciate what you do.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I know you as a person and at least have vetted you from people that I trust with my life to the point where let's do something serious. That's the way they work. I think it's more human nature than anything else.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I didn't drag out of them, but they just had to challenge my credibility on the stand. Most people plead out when they realize, oh, the dude that I've been hanging out with for eight months is this guy or however long they've known me. Then they just know the writing's on the wall. They got to deal with it.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah. Oh, for sure. I mean, that's how you grow, man. That's how you grow a business is somebody's Jordan says, hey, man, this guy's good to go. I wanted to introduce him to you. I would just talk to him. I wouldn't even have to ask questions because you're sending it. I trust you. So automatically we'll just talk to the guy.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I don't support the KKK at all. I don't support that ideology. But I support people having the right to believe as they want to believe, as long as they don't cross the line and hurt people. And to show, to prove that I will stick up for somebody else's rights has also led to people just like that sticking up for mine. I know I didn't convert anybody,
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I am the impetus for over 200 to make up their own minds to convert themselves because I've given them reason to think about other things that make more sense than what they're currently doing. It bothers me a great deal that we call ourselves the greatest nation on the face of this earth. We have to admit that there are some flaws here. I don't adhere to that statement that we are the greatest.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Maybe I would bend and say that perhaps technologically we are the greatest. So how is it that we as Americans can talk to people as far away as the moon or anywhere on the face of this earth, but yet there's so many of us who have difficulty talking to the person who lives right next door? This is the 21st century. This racist nonsense does not belong in any century, let alone the 21st.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
We are living in space-age times, but there are still too many of us thinking we're stone-age minds.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But the ones that challenge it, their attorneys are going to just challenge my credibility as a person and professionally as well.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
If you have a reasonable view on how things go. then you would at least think that we're working toward getting better enforcement and less drugs that hit the street, less addiction, less issues like that. But I don't even see it that way.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Unfortunately, I see that you have narcobs working their asses off and guys going in undercover, guys going across the border and trying to deal with cartels or anything else so that we can keep the wheel spinning and keep it from getting worse. So I think we're essentially putting people in harm's way For the benefit of not seeing it get worse.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Well, that kind of changed the game just because it's so lethal. And you get surprised. People that are taking the drugs are ignorant to it or don't care or prefer it. I mean, the people on the street... versus people like us who just look at it and be like, oh my gosh, this is gonna be the worst thing if this leaves fentanyl. Then a user's like, oh no, it's great.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Those people aren't even really taking it on purpose. That's true.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Everybody lives in their own little tunnel. And like I said, they'll bitch about politics or whatever until there's some kind of benefit for them. Then they'll pick that candidate even if they're a complete idiot otherwise. Yeah, I can't imagine what you're talking about right now.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, that's a super show of trust, obviously, because usually, like I said, they don't invite you to the place where they rest their head. There's too much to lose, even though essentially it's the one environmental aspect that they can control when you think of it from a strategic security standpoint.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But it's also where they're most vulnerable because you see where they live, where you can catch them at any given time on any given day because they've got to sleep at some point and they just don't want to show people that. Or They just do their business elsewhere. So they're not showing off their kids or their girlfriends or whatever it is.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But yeah, for somebody in my case in particular, it was a big gesture of trust to say, come over to the house or whatever, because typically they would just meet you somewhere or I'd be parked out in the driveway, hit them up. Somebody else would come out and do some kind of proxy handoff type thing or whatever.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And so I had done so many of that in reverse that I think they just knew I was extra cautious and just had developed trust by then. That's just one of those big signs to me, like, oh, this guy trusts me enough to come to his actual house.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
That's a good question. I don't know if they were motivated by anything other than at that point they trusted me. So it was laziness. Convenient, so straight up convenient.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah, and that's a presumption on my part. They still played the movie role. I'd walk in, they'd close the burglar bar cage and lock it and shut the door, and then he'd sit back on his couch with a couple 45s pointed out, like it's some kind of, okay, we'll start rolling on this. But I just attribute it to that.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It still was a leap of faith, though, on their part, because it said in practice, even with people that were fellow gang members, they didn't do as much of that work. I would say I was the only non-gang member that I knew of that was actually in somebody's house wheeling and dealing at that point.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
It sort of is. Yeah. It's sophisticated enough to where you think that they have an appreciable talent to actually run a business, but at the same time, They're street thugs. So there's these are 25 to 29 year olds trying to do a thing, but they're still street thugs. So in terms of their common sense is a little bit limited because their goals are to support the gangs.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
They're still so selfish that they're infighting amongst different sets within the same gang and things like that. If they were really that prolific at running a business, then you wouldn't have different sets within the crip organization. You'd have crips as a whole. They could conquer quite a bit, but they're so fragmented. You just take on one aspect of it and take those down.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
You have a bunch of people there. Then you take other ones down and you can actually get sometimes other sets of crips to help you infiltrate different sets for the sake of territorial command or whatever.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Yeah. And the best thing to compare it to is, again, that common enemy concept is that when there is a threat from bloods or law enforcement, they will collaborate a lot more because then, you know, hey, this is some kind of threat and blah, blah, blah. And they'll get together and do more in that aspect. But. Yeah.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
In terms of just doing the business, they would set up houses like they'd have somebody who's got a real estate license and he would set up all these rentals and then put some chicks in there that have an ID and they would sit in there and then the dealers would send their crews in and they'd have these mid-level guys running the house.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
Somebody would make a drop under the engine compartment, the hood of the car that's in the backyard, and then they'd sell that throughout the day. They'd break it up and sell it. They've got somebody that cooks it in a separate place. So they're making all these drops at these different houses and they put all these little worker bees to go in there and distribute it throughout the day.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
So even if you hit a house, typical narcotics operations or trying to even get the gangs through narcotics, which I was doing, you'd knock a house down, you can try to get some intel, but you're still getting lower level people. And then you've got somebody that actually is the renter in the home that isn't associated with the people. So the renter is shielded there in terms of prosecution.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And then you've got dudes that certainly don't live there. So finding mail and If they have drugs in there, but they're not in actual possession, it makes it a real difficult case to make each time. It was just a pain in the ass for me.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
I was hitting houses to try to hit the same people three and four times so that I could then call the district attorney's office and say, all right, this case that you have on so-and-so, I know that you're going to plead it out because this is how you do it. But there's three other ones, and I think they're attached to some different prosecutors in the same office.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
And maybe you could create a case out of all these and actually give these people some time.
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1160: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part One
But you find him, he swears he doesn't live there and I don't have anything to do with this. And then three other times law enforcement finds you there, three other dates with dope and guns in proximity, then circumstantially you have something, you know.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
There was a lot that I couldn't explain to him, obviously, because if I'm going in off the books when I'm going into work and essentially nobody knows I'm at work except one of the patrolmen I used to work with just telling him on a midnight shift, hey, man, I'm fixing to go do this thing. You mind standing by? They don't know the process, but yeah, man, I got you.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And I'll just say, hey, stay far enough away, blah, blah, blah. And I'll keep the phone line open. That was my wire, so to speak.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So that if anything goes wrong, he can roll up with the lights and sirens. Drive through the front door, man, because these are all like burglar barred, fortified, whatever. I said, just come save my ass.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, it is something I'm not supposed to be doing. It was with the resources that we had. Here's how you would set up a deal. Typically, you would say, all right, this is my target. This is the time I'm trying to go do X, Y, Z. And then you get a team of five dudes from the gang in it and suburbans and a bunch of white dudes with backwards baseball caps and beards.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It's something cool to do, answer a call or waiting for a call or whatever. Somebody calls and says, you know, homicide detective, and you go out hunting.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I needed to do it primarily because time was a key factor. And essentially, I spent so much time that it was a non-starter. There was no team that could stay down there every single day, including weekends and everything else.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah. And even just the hangouts every day of the week, I would spend some time. I would at least drive through and say, what's up? If I'm on a Saturday and I'm doing something with my family, I would still roll through there and give a what's up. They saw me almost every single day for that straight 18 months. People saw my face rolling through there. And that was part of it, though.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I never just disappeared for periods of time. That's when people start thinking, where have you been? Like, what's going on? And I have to make up some kind of ruse, but I got locked up or wherever else I was supposed to be. And unfortunately, I lived in the same city, which was part of the other anomaly in this case, is that I'm crapping in my own backyard, essentially.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So that made it more difficult. But that's why off the books, I would say, other than a couple of the things that I was involving myself with that would have been Once you go up the chain and say, hey, I want to go, you know, hang out with these dudes and play video games and we talk for smack. I'm going to try to meet some new people wherever. You do that on a daily basis.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Just some of it's prohibitive. You don't have enough manpower. Some of it is just the stuff they wouldn't want you to do just for safety sake or whatever. Because, again, they want you to be wired. I wanted absolutely not to be wired. The time all we had was that primitive crap that just taped all over yourself.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, and it gets so much easier, too, to where if somebody does call you at 2 in the morning and saying, hey, man, this XYZ, and I say, I'll be there in a minute, and I literally roll up and 25 minutes later, that would be something that would take three hours to get guys on call to get their cars, go gear up, meet at the office, wire me up, figure out a game plan.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
hanging out in the hood three blocks away with listening devices. You go in, you give the date and time, what you're going to do, and you go in and you try to accomplish whatever the part of the mission is, make the buy, whatever. It's just so freaking conspicuous and time consuming to get that together. And hey, these guys are saying, hey, man, B just went to Waco and he's going to be back.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Because they just think, we'll take the case that you brought to us thus far, and if they feel like they could put their own undercover in there and insert them, or just take the case and run it up through the AUSA at that point and take all the credit for the case. The U.S. attorney. Yeah, because they're federal agencies.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And obviously, the DEA would have people that are fully equipped to try to get an undercover in or whatever, but... I already knew. I said, man, this is ridiculous to try to insert someone else when I'm already in there. What's the point? All you're doing is complicating it, putting more risk on someone else when the case is already rolling forward.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It's rolling downhill now if I had the funds and the equipment. That's what I was looking for. So that's when the FBI was the obvious thing. And what's interesting is that they have a whole trained undercover program, but they appreciated the fact that this was already being accomplished. And I think it's just common sense. And of course, the FBI still gets all the credit for the case.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
They filed the case federally and all that stuff. So I'm working undercover. So honestly, the last person that gets credit for anything is the undercover because they're That's what you do. So you're not there for a glorification. You get done with a case like that and then raise your hand and say, I'm undercover, then you're never working again.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So essentially everyone else is taking whatever credit they want, the gang unit and the FBI and the this and this, and they're all do press conferences. But I'm not showing my face. Sure.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Are you interested in doing some business? And it's two in the morning. I'm not going to get eight dudes out of their beds to come show up and do all this conspicuous stuff with a bunch of white dudes. Because that's the other thing is these dudes parking in these enterprise leased cars all over the hood. They're just like, I think something's up because these people also have lookouts.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
That's not how it works. When you're in a civil service based department, you test for every promotion and you either make it or you don't. That's how it goes. There's good things and bad things about that because it's a competency test and you cover leadership and different things like that. But it doesn't necessarily mean you have great leaders either. Right.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Because if you can take the test better than me, now you're the next leader.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I was probably too old by then. I don't know what the FBI cutoff is, but I was 35-ish. It's probably like 36. I was pretending to be 29 or whatever it was. Sure. Yeah. I don't know.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yes, you have to laugh at it because otherwise I tear up every time. But yeah, I was at a level to where guys were coming to me all the time and I was moving out of the fishbowl because obviously the crip territory was more than those six square blocks. That was just a violent hub But a lot of the supplies were coming from outside that neighborhood, still all interconnected and crip-wise.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So I was really careful about who I was talking to because moving from guy to guy was, I could do dope deals all day long, but if they're not a crip, I'm not interested in talking to them at all because I'm still working. Even if the FBI has given me money to spend, I have to spend it wisely.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I have to still justify how the money, especially with the FBI, you have to justify how the money's being spent. So we had this cat that pulls up. I happened to pick up my informant just to get a brief and see what he's been doing. Met this little corner store. We're driving around having a little sip, and this dude pulls up and flags us down. I see the car.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It's this gold Lexus, and he keeps driving around like, who's this fool? He pulls up, and he's like, for tea, Manny. hey, what's going on? I met you once through whatever and explained who he is. And I'm looking over at my informant who knows that this guy needs to be a crip for me to even, but he's trying to sell me something, man. I got this great stuff and whatever.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I'm like, hey man, it's all good. You don't need nothing, but it's good to meet you, whatever. And then I look over at my informant, he gives me a little something like, hey man, he's a crip. He's probably a low level crip. But again, the level of crip is insignificant to me. I'm creating a conspiracy case of A whole bunch of Crips are causing a bunch of violent crime in the city.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So you're basically, this is like a Rico organized crime. Yeah. That's the idea is tying all that together. Not the dope. At that point, it was a risk for me to say, I'm going to come in and do a low level dove deal because I'm supposed to be this big dude. And he wants to sell me the whatever. But at that point, I'm also trying to say, well, this is a Crip, a lower level Crip is still a Crip.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And a lot of times they're doing a lot of the violent acts themselves anyway. So I said, all right, man, that's cool. Where are you going? He said, just follow me. He said, my house, whatever.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And we pull in, pull up the driveway, like a normal, it's a little shotgun, little house with little burglar bars on the top, built in the fifties, little hood house, typical thing, fence out in the front yard and everything else.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
He goes through the front gate and up the stairs, open the burglar bar, lock everything up back behind us, have a typical room set up with a little coffee table, couch on one side, giant screen TV on the other side, practically nothing else in the apartment besides a gun, a scale, and some dope.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And somewhere there's a Bible and porn. Somewhere. A Bible and porn? Yes. Those have to be present in order for you to solidify a proper dope house. That's ridiculous. It's percentage-wise pretty amazing. That's really ridiculous. And so we just start chatting, just familiarizing, whatever he's talking about, whatever his stuff was. The TV happens to be on. And this was back in 2006, 2007-ish.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So again, you realize there's four channels on TV for the most part at that time. It's not like everybody had 2,600 choices. And when they have TV in the county jail, it's running one of those channels all the time. Cops happen to be one of the most popular. So cops is on in the trap house. Cops happens to be on in the trap house.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I don't even notice the cops on the trap house until I'm standing up. Those two are sitting down. My informant sits down and this other fool sits down. We're just jaw-jabbing about stuff or whatever. And I hear a voice behind me. You talk about the feeling of dread that comes over.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Now, there are some real expert guys. Again, if you're working with the FBI and you've certified your undercover status and you have a team of people from different places that you're going, that's fine. But I was also working in my own backyard, and I had so little money.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
You get that adrenaline SNS dump, and my auto-exclusion happens, and I'm seeing in tunnel vision, and my heart rate's racing, and I recognize that it's me from several years back. At that time, I did an episode in 1999 that was on replay. Fort Worth did a crap load of episodes. They used to be on reruns all the time. I didn't even volunteer to go.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
My sergeant made me go on this day when I was on the cops episode. But there's a giant-ass TV behind me with my big white Nordic mug on there in a police uniform driving a police car arresting this fool on the freeway. And... These guys are facing me. So behind me, I'm thinking I got this giant backdrop. Lord only knows. And I've told you about all the things that I've prepared for. Sure.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And these people pull guns. I got this. I think I'm tactically sound as long as I don't have somebody else to worry about. I'm going to do this if they ask me this. I'm thinking all these things so that I can just focus solely on whatever important scenario is placed in front of me instead of thinking of all these ancillary things. And this son of a bitch just confused the hell out of me.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It may have been Arby's. I think I would love Arby's. I don't know what it was because I would subconsciously just think, oh, I love Arby's.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
At that point, I could have left it on. I don't know what I said. It was the most difficult part to actually put into the book because I don't know what I said. Everything else, I had notes and memorialized little things on napkins that I'd wad up like snot rags if there was something significant or write the story when I got home in my report that I never filed.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
But this, I was just like, I have no earthly idea what I said. And I was scared to death. And I know I talked, which they tell me now is a part of a training protocol. You keep talking through these stressful situations. I don't know what I said, but I was talking just thinking, I am so freaking screwed right now. And honestly, I was as paranoid about...
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
having a violent confrontation as I was about this thing ending before I got to the head of the snake. I mean, I was a little bit overly psycho about what I was willing to keep this case going because I had put in so much time and effort and there was nobody else working with me.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And so little opportunity to just go in and start flashing money and blowing up stuff that I had to leverage the time that I could spend down there. Sometimes I would go down there specifically asking for someone I knew that was gone so that I had an opportunity to just hang out. But not spend any money because the guy was gone.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Obviously, outside the scenes, I had an agent assigned to the case, but I was in there alone doing all these hours and putting in all this time. I was going to be damned if I had to cut it short because a freaking TV show came on, but I was certain this is not going to end well. I don't have the key to the burglar bar door. This is going to be bad. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So I just the most anticlimactic part about it is that I just filibustered. I call it a filibuster. I just talk about whatever it is. I'm going to keep talking until this is over. And thank goodness it's over. And then I'm hauling through the deal. And I probably look like a complete amateur doing this dope deal. But they couldn't have been on point at that time.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Got the deal done, was hauling ass. Man, I just remembered I got something else. And we go out the door and my informant jumps in the passenger seat. I'm just looking at him. He's, what is up with you? He's all looking at me confused too. He had no freaking idea. Oh, he didn't notice. No, obviously nobody noticed.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Or that would have come around. But at that point, once I left with my life and my sanity, I thought. That's not good. This is in my mind now. Now I'm super paranoid. If that thing's still showing to the extent that we could be in a trap and this is literally what they're watching.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
How many times are they rolling? I mean, I don't know how many times this comes on all the time because it's Fort Worth. I don't know. It's the middle of the night. Half these folks are up. Am I going to walk into the next house and they'd be like, saw you on TV?
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah. Yeah. But there's something beautiful, I think, about guys in uniform. I used to know people that I'd work with, and then I would see them out of uniform and just not recognize them. And I think civilians think even more like that.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
If they know who a police officer is, they just have a particular kind of look, and you put them in street clothes, and they just don't recognize them the same way. And I think that was fortunate in this case, that it would just think there was a separation. Not to mention the high and tight, barely any hair look. Right, right, sure. I damn sure could have grown out any hair I wanted, and I didn't.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
This was the difficult part. And this is why, had I gone through training, I would have figured out that this is really against the rules. Not that I didn't know it was against the rules. But look, I'm trying to be a big time guy. And obviously, if I've been working with cartel guys and had this big operation going, I can't be out here dealing with these little punk gangbangers.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And then somebody called me out. The worst thing they can do is call you a snitch. even better than if you're deemed a cop, you just run the risk of getting some kind of violent repercussions. But almost certainly you would if you're a snitch, because there's a lot less repercussions for you if they find a snitch in a ditch versus finding a cop in the ditch.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
There's going to be a hunting party coming out. So I think I was so well known by then that they just thought I was a snitch. Nobody really thought about a cop. And The reason why it happened was it was the same little gangster hopping that I did where I was talking to this one dude. And in typical doper gangbanger fashion, he was giving me what I needed.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And so he thought he was doing me righteous, but would show up late all the time because... intermediate level doper or whatever show up. And so I leveraged that as, hey, man, I don't play like this. I need people to be on time. I'm running a business. I don't know what you think you're doing or whatever. And I just had to play it off because, again, I have a case on you already.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And because I didn't have the money, too. I needed to establish relationships and find out who's who. And so I would just go down there. And before you knew it, after 8, 10, 12 months, I'm going down there and they're inviting me down, bringing... four pack of Magnums and we're sharing malt liquor and playing Madden and whatever, and it's all good.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
For me to just keep buying is just wasting a bunch of money. I need to be spending somewhere else because I need to put other crips on this conspiracy case. So I end up going up the street, literally around the corner from where this cat is, When he doesn't show up on time, I just take off. I go around the corner and I start talking to somebody else around there.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
By this time, it's not even hard for me to go talk to other people because everybody at least has heard of me. So I at least can stop by and have a conversation. I don't even remember at the time. I know I ended up getting something from them, but I don't even remember if I was actually buying anything significant.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It was probably just, I'm just going to go over here and feel these guys out because I at least have that excuse in my mind. Like, man, you didn't show up on time. I can't be sitting around in the curb. We got cops all over the place. You're going to find some white dude in a Mercedes car. Hello. And apparently he drove by and saw me.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And that's when he started saying, man, this dude's a snitch because he's thinking in his mind, I've been selling this guy righteous. And now all of a sudden he's over here. What is he even doing over here? There's no reason to be going to one of my fellow guys. And so he puts this jacket on me is what they call it. They give you the jacket. It's a label as a snitch. And my informant is calling me.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
in a panic because he knows the risk that he runs. If he made an introduction to this guy four months ago and then all of a sudden it comes out that I'm some kind of snitch, He's going to be the first guy they drag in and try to figure out what's going on, too. So he calls me in a panic in the middle of the night. One of those guys, he's infamous for just calling.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I'm like, and he'll say, T-Man, it's really important. It's an emergency. T, call me. And they'd be like, hey, man, you got any money for a beer, man? Can you meet me out there? Whatever. I'm like, son of a bitch. Yeah. So I'm ignoring because it's like late in the night. And so when I finally picked up, he said, man, there's a word out on the street that, man, you're a snitch.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
They gave you the jacket and blah, blah, blah. And it's coming from... This guy, blah, blah, blah. He explains whatever the deal is. He doesn't know why or anything like that, but word's getting to him. And so he's freaking out because he's got a high penance to pay at this point.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And so in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, when I'd say off the books, so very far removed from working with anybody who's covering me almost ever at this point. And I'm probably easily over a year in and been out there so often that I'm just figuring out how do I make this case survive and Do I want to die? No. Was I willing to lose my job over making this successful? Yes.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And that's an interesting thought in retrospect. But I thought, OK, if T is who he is and I purport myself to be some kind of big time dude and I've been through the ringer and I've ran giant operations and these punk gangbangers are trying to put a label on me that's going to get me killed in the street. This is the lowest next to a pedophile. You can't put a label on somebody worse than this.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
What would T actually do? So I flipped back over. I had my plan, and I set my alarm for 6 o'clock in the morning. I got up and got myself all psyched. I knew this dude does his drop. He had a little port-a-couche over the side of the garage, and at the bottom, there was a little missing piece of concrete, and that's where the larger stash would go. He'd make his drop every morning.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
But in the beginning, that's the idea is that's how you build relationships. You know who I am. You've seen me. I'm asking for so-and-so who's not here. And so the rest is, hey, what's up? You want a beer? And just seeing what's going on. So that's a little bit different level of pressure for somebody instead of me saying, well, can you get me something? It's not all business.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And so I pulled up and waited for him to show up on time, which of course he did not. But I was there when he got there. And when he got up there, I just got out of my car and made a straight beeline for him. He's like, hey, man, what's up? And I just started beating the shit out of him. This is what you do. Now, obviously, I had plenty of training.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I wasn't trying to kill the dude, but this is the least of what I would do. There's a lot worse that I could have done, but obviously I'm not trying to do anything other than convince him that this jacket needs to be taken off me because people are going to die if I just ignore it. People are going to die, starting with my informant. And that's what a gangster would do.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
We got into it and I ended up rolling around in the grass down the hill and then ended up with a good knee into his rib cage. And he was having a hard time catching his breath. And I told him to take the jacket off of me and just walked away. And that's the last I heard of it. Really? Yeah, that's the last I heard of it. And I don't think it was atypical.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I think it probably gave me a little more street cred, but I also don't think he just got up and went around and told everybody, just got his ass kicked. I don't think it was made into a bigger to-do because what would you say? I say he was a snitch and he just kicked my ass. I don't think so. I'm curious, you just say, I think I was mistaken about that. My bad.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, that I don't know because I left it up to him. Obviously, if he's the one talking about it, this is how I'm going to handle it. I'm not going to go around and justify myself because I feel like I'd already had. And I thought, that's the way I'm going to handle it. And then hopefully that word gets out. And that's how it went down. That's exactly what happened. It just got squashed.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
But again, the concern comes back into my mind when somebody says, I only find out in retrospect that it was because he's seen me to other places. I'm starting to think, Oh, my God. Is this freaking cops episode coming on? Everywhere. And all these people are figuring it out. It's still making me just 10 times more paranoid.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And now I'd done that and obviously would not be permissible under any circumstance. Yeah, of course. And so I thought, well, I'm really sticking myself out there. But I felt like I really had a purpose. I know, interestingly, too, in retrospect, saving that neighborhood was already accomplished. Saving a larger neighborhood.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
part of the entire portion of that neighborhood and further into the city based on the same violent, corrupt crips that were there. It changed my perspective on kind of what I was doing, but I was in it really deep. And I just, I don't know how logical I was. In my age now, I'm so much more logical and predictable in how I perform because some things are just so not worth it.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And I already know I got so much more to lose, but the younger you go back and figure out, man, I got... this the gain, I'm willing to do all these other things. And you're like, man, are you sure you've weighed all these consequences? Yeah, no kidding. But yeah, that was one of the more extraordinary parts of that case.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, one of the same typical deals where I'm cruising around with this cat who we're supposed to get this deal done. He's picking it up from a cook. And this guy's name was D. We go in his house and he's actually cooking all this stuff up. So that's why I knew that this guy had gotten all of the stuff from this particular cook. So I have an order. I don't remember quarter key, something moderate.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I didn't have an extraordinary budget like a lot of people think about with federal money. Even when I had money, it wasn't extraordinary budget. But we set this deal up, and when he gets there, it's crack. It's like, dude, you know me. I can't do the crack, man. I need the powder, man. He's, man, I thought you said crack.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
We were just at the cookhouse, and my boss, man, can you help me out any other way? He's, man, let me try to think. So I'm actually rolling around with him. This is one of those paranoid dudes that tells you to meet him somewhere, and then five other places after he moves, then we finally do the deal. But now I'm riding him around with me. So we're driving around in my ride,
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
He takes me to this place and goes in and picks up something else. The guy says he can get it, but to park and wait. And we go back to the place where we were supposed to meet, where they're having this house party. And so we're just hanging out at that point because we're waiting to do a deal, but I'm essentially put in a situation where, hey, this is like the greatest networking event ever.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I'm in the middle of the hood at a house party, a bunch of crips playing poker inside. There's dudes in the backyard cooking. There's people hanging out in the front. As overt as you can imagine a house party being with a bunch of criminals at it. And while I'm still waiting...
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So I'm trying to remember if it was right after the deal, the guy showed up and we did the deal, or if it was right before. So this blue SUV pulls up, they call it a blue Jeep, no matter what it is, if it's a Jeep or if it's a Durango, everyone in the hood calls it a Jeep. But it was, I think it was a Durango, blue Durango, pulls up and everybody starts flocking over to it.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Now my kingpin, I'd known who the kingpin was since before the case started. I had run-ins with him just doing warrants and stuff. He never got busted for anything. So I knew he was the guy. I didn't know how big he actually was in real life. And he had been laying low. He split town and there was a lot of heat from the feds or whatever. I don't remember who he said he caught heat from.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I was thinking, it's not heat from me because I haven't been at your doorstep, but I wish I had been. So he apparently was back in town. This window lowers down and I see from his nose up, he's poking his head out the back of his own car like somebody's driving him around. And all these people are gathering around. It's like the freaking king has showed up into the town.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Oh, yeah. Scared me to death because I knew the guy and I was a little bit over paranoid anyway because. Oh, you knew the guy that sold the information. I knew the guy. So you're like, oh, crap. He knows who I am. He knows who I am.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And I'm thinking, man, this is unbelievable. I walk over and of course I'm with these two dudes that I'm doing deals with. One guy's linking me with a new guy and we're getting what I need. It's a natural symbiotic situation. Walk over with the crowd or whatever. And I see him. I know exactly who is.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I only can guess that he might know maybe who I am, but I've seen him and talked to him with a balaclava years before, but he wouldn't recognize me otherwise. And I just remember catching some eye contact as he's talking to people and kind of high-fiving and whatever. And I kind of looked over. I'm going to give him the what's up. He gives me like a what's up.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And it wasn't curious or suspicious or anything. He just gave me a what's up. And I thought, that's cool. Normally, who's the snowman here in the middle of the crew? Who is this dude? So I thought it was cool that I got the little what's up. And that was my first inkling that, man, this connection, this is like a manifestation in real life of these people all lead to this.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And we're all standing here right now. This is ultimately what the goal is to get all these people out of here.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
You hope it happens all at once. That's the plan anyway. There was the FBI agent, assistant U.S. attorney, and several people from the FBI field office in Dallas were working tirelessly and overnight to help write all these documents. search and arrest warrants for all these target locations. We had 51 people in the conspiracy at the very end, 41 of whom went federal sentencing and 10 went state.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So we're running warrants all over the city for these people to do all at once. And so they're having this big to do in a gymnasium full of seven, eight, nine agencies. We've got ATF and FBI. We've got Fort Worth SWAT. We've got gang unit. All these people are all gathered. There's 200 plus officers in this gymnasium talking about what we're going to do the next morning at 6 a.m.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
He didn't know what I was doing that I was down there because when I started this thing, I acted a little over paranoid when I would make a buy and go tag the evidence and have it analyzed. I didn't put it to a long form report and put it in the system, which other people could potentially access.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
To me, I'm just, my mind's blowing. Are you nervous? Are you excited? I'm both. And honestly, it was surreal because by then I'd been doing it for so long. Just the fact that it was actually going to culminate in anything that meant it was done was weird for me.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It was just something where I felt like my behavior, I was willing to just keep doing crazier and crazier stuff to just keep this thing building So it was surreal that it was even ending at all. And normally, too, you do a case and then you crack the door down. That's the fun part. And everybody else is doing this for me.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I'm working from the end of the FBI and I'm following their lead, too, because I'm just assigned to the FBI as a TFO. I'm not actually an FBI agent. So I'm following all the protocols that they have to go through.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
A task force officer, a municipal or a sheriff department or somebody that's assigned to the FBI. They get credentials and work in the office. So it was surreal for me there, too, because it was just enough old school. We walk in the room the next morning at 6 a.m. They got this long table with big red telephones, old school dial in hard line telephones lined up and down.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I think the FBI, honestly, many agencies had all these passe technological things when they worked in their office at WordPerfect. I think by then WordPerfect had been defunct almost forever. a decade. They still used it, but it's hard to actually pull up a file. You steal something from there, put it on a thumb drive and try to pull it up.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Most computers at that time, they're essentially is naturally encrypted, you know, behind the times. But all these big boards, all the targets are listed and whatever's going on. I was a nervous wreck knowing all this stuff was supposed to go down. So they launch everybody. They give a green light over the radio at 6 a.m.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And all these tactical teams are hitting all these different locations at six o'clock in the morning, all over the city. We only got 17 of the people in the first day. Oh, wow. So there was a bunch more people over the next couple of weeks that we were working on rounding up. And that was the most nerve-wracking time.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
With a sniper rifle. Jeez. So yeah, it took a couple of weeks. Most of them got rounded up within the following week-ish because it was still an aggressive thing. When that roundup came out, there was a lot of attention brought to the case, news conferences and everything else. There was a lot of patrolmen and everything else that were also actively interested in finding some of these guys.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So we got lots of help. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It was a nerve wracking time though. Happy, sad too, for the guys that you get to know and that you really like and knowing that that's the end of that is also kind of nerve wracking too. So what was the result then? A lot of these guys got some decent time. Yeah. The lowest was, I think we had seven went to trial.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
There are hard files in the narcotics office and the gang offices where you could go in and somebody could have essentially just followed my whole case by coming in behind and checking out what reports I'd made. So I would literally just say, here's the report number.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
All the rest of them pled and shared information. Of the ones that went to trial... I testified on behalf of several of them also in terms of behalf of their character, because they were people that I thought deserve to be in the conspiracy. Once these arrests are made, I have no control over what sentences they get or you've got a federal judge that's tough on crime guy and you lose control.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
The only thing that I could do is try to convince them to cooperate and give them my word. And I didn't do this for everyone, but give them my word. I'll testify on behalf of you and your character. Most people didn't believe me and I kind of didn't blame them, even though it was traumatic for me because I'm thinking in my mind, like, no, dude, we really did have a connection. I really like you.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
But you've also known me for two years as T. And now I'm telling you I was lying the whole time. So I understand why you don't believe me. But it was traumatic for me when they would just give you the bird and move on because you just really had these high hopes for the guys that you thought had a chance. You really wanted to get the lowest sentences.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And since I didn't get to pick, that's the only thing I could do. Once I testified for one person and just said, man, I think they have a lot of social redeeming value. They've made a lot of mistakes. They are tied in with this, but I think I would be even comfortable as the undercover with them getting out with a lighter sentence, whatever that needs to be.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I'm just, I have a testify on their behalf. And once I did that, a few others perked up and decided to cooperate. And I ended up doing that. So the lowest sentence was Two years. And the average sentence was 19 years. Oh, wow. So you add a ton of dope into this situation and it turned into what people considered a dope case. But again, it's not a dope case.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
These are violent criminals selling guns, doing drive-bys, everything else. And you debrief all these fools and they're sharing who murdered so-and-so at the stop and shop, whatever. We had nine cold case murders that got reinvestigated. So that's really who these folks are. And the last three are getting out.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Biden's actually his last hurrah, let the last three guys out, one of which is actually a pen pal of mine. I've been trying to get out for years, me and another attorney of trying to get because I think he got really screwed on the Senate.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
The other two are those kind of folks that you want someone to let you know when they get out so you can just watch yourself. Sure. But again, the only reason I can even think that even happened, because it happened without any instigating from me, we're working from behind the scenes and trying to put together a case to get my guy out.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And further details forthcoming, I would keep my own reports to where I could go back after the fact because I was just so paranoid. I didn't even think it was going to come to that, to be honest with you. I just thought nobody really knew a lot about what I was doing other than my immediate supervisor. That's all that needed to know.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And all of a sudden he calls and says, man, he's getting down in July. Is that, again, they think this is a dope case, these are nonviolent, whatever, this is drugs and blah, blah, blah. Well, that's not the case. There's so much more context in this situation. Yeah.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, I was encouraged to write a book after this, and I had no interest in writing a book at all till somebody brought me to one particular organization that got me turned on to this whole thing where we calculate all the kids that were left behind after this roundup. So you have 51 people off the street, one female, 50 dudes, and you try to think of, all right, now...
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
How many fatherless kids are there going to be on the street in that same poor neighborhood being raised by aunts and grandmothers in that same place who are going to take the next opportunity? And then you got to get some dude in 18 years to go in and take them all to jail. I'm just thinking this is salvaging that neighborhood in a certain way, but it's not a long term solution.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
The arrest is not a long term solution. You're getting the violent people away so that this neighborhood could potentially thrive. But what are we doing for that neighborhood to thrive? And this organization is an after-school organization that mentors children of incarcerated and murdered parents. They teach them. They have to come in and report their conduct grade every single day.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
They talk about their test scores. They get mentored in art class, in their homework stuff. They do music. They do athletics. They have little after-school. Dallas Maverick guy will come out and do some kind of thing at the basketball court or whatever. It's a fantastic program. They essentially teach these kids everything. Table manners and how to apply for jobs.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah. Smart. Takes her ceiling from this level and makes it sky high, which we take for granted. Our parents have always taught me you can do anything you want. Sure. If you just do this, this is the path and whatever.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, it is right. I think it's funny because it's ironic because these kids, again, that was their dad. That's what they knew. Their dads grew up in that same environment, got into the bad stuff. I will concede most of these guys were not actually great fathers at all.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I just felt like I was getting so deep that I don't need a bunch of people talking about anything that I'm doing. There's too much to lose from general chatter. So when I found that out, it scared me to death. I thought, oh my gosh. First of all, I was so glad that I didn't have a report in the box because these guys couldn't tell him who I was.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
so that the cycle has some potential for fixing itself. You're teaching them ways in which they can succeed in other ways besides grabbing a gang member and latching on in sixth grade or whatever that is.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Politics and graft and everything else. Yeah. I don't think in terms of drugs, obviously, I think the war on drugs, I think everyone Would agree that doesn't work. It's been how many decades now that's been in play.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
You're putting a lot of lives at risk for us to continue spinning the wheel so that it doesn't get worse, which is the only real progress I think we make when you're fighting the dope is you're just putting people in harm's way, law enforcement doing all this different stuff just to make sure it doesn't get worse. Because if you quit fighting it, it will get worse.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Fighting it is not beating it either. So I don't know exactly a solution. I think if I did, I'd be speaking all over the world, giving them the magic key. But I do think too many people pass on making an impact because they think it's this giant undertaking.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And if you can impact one person that is of age that can be enlightened by some kind of wisdom or encouragement or whatever, I think that's really the keys. If more people would think a small difference adds up. in total. I think that's really where it comes in. Educating people and acknowledging consequences.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Most of the people in the dope game are not accountable people and they get pissed off when they get caught. But if you actually understand consequences and value other things that you can do, you'll make better choices in general.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And it's not that we can do that in mass with one kind of turnkey thing, but I think people that have a struggling kid or something that may listen to you, even if you tell them the exact same stuff their dad tells them and they don't listen, a lot of times it could be as simple as that, just saving that one dude, because he's going to then have a testimony about how he managed to get away from some of that stuff.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And then that spreads. Other people are doing that. So I really think it's just an individual thing where... Most of us get old and you realize, wow, I was trying to do all this stuff to make myself successful. And once I get to a certain age, I realize it's all about making other people successful. That's when life really becomes real. It's so much better.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
But not everybody sees things like that until you can help a single person out and appreciate what that does. That's a legacy, even if you don't get your name put on a plaque for it. So I think we could solve some of those problems.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And it wasn't like he was involved to the extent where he's down there at the houses doing deals. He was working cases also, but he was just avoiding cases that involved any of them. He didn't bust those guys. Yeah. I don't even know that he was on the take as much as he had personal relationships having grown up around them.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
He just didn't want to bust his friends. Yeah, he was corrupt to the extent that he was also when we say we're doing the jump outs and the warrants and all that stuff before I came up with the undercover plan. That's the reason why none of those houses had any people or dope or guns.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It's coming. And then they would just be gone. Fortunately, that's how they handled it, as opposed to let's arm up and put 20 people in here. Sure. But he was just telling them, hey, be gone, whatever. They'd clean the place out. It'd look like, man, these people don't even know what they're doing, but you're swearing. Like, man, I swear this had some stuff in it yesterday.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I did not want to meet him, but I was curious about what information that he could provide because I told him I had some places on the other side of town that were catching a lot of heat. And if I gave you some addresses, could you get them to him and see what he could find out? That was essentially what I was trying to do.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Ultimately, I wrote up an inter-office thing and said, hey, here's the deal. Here's my complaint. This guy's completely crooked and blah, blah, blah. He's going to get somebody killed. What happened to him? Nothing. Nothing happened. He retired happy. Wow, that's really horrible. Yeah, it's terrible. And again, look, I'm a low totem pole.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I was doing what I was doing, but I send it to this supervisor who then says, whoa, this is a big deal. Send it to this supervisor, to that supervisor, and then to the... I don't know how far it got before somebody just said... I'm calling BS or whatever. No one even asked me any further questions.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I submitted the written document with the complaint on it with all of the details, the legend about dates and times and who said what and everything that I could give. And it came back with jack squat.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, I think so, too.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
No, it doesn't make any sense. They would have explained that to me at some point. Hey, there's stuff you don't know and just leave this alone. I wasn't told to leave it alone. I would follow up and they said, I don't know. Because again, I'm handing it to you who has to get it through four levels of command structure.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah. He's lucky that I hid all my stuff. Because again, he could have figured out who I was and it stopped me in my tracks before not only did I make any progress through the case, but... The first time I show up when they're notified that, oh, this guy's actually not T. He's not a source. He's a cop. Then who knows how they would have handled that because he wasn't going to tell me not to go.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I just ratted you out. He's going to rat me out to them knowing it was me. And then I'm going to keep showing up thinking I got my game still. which is, who knows where that goes. Yeah, oh my God, that's terrible.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah, I think it manifests most when, you know, I would come home and my wife would notice that I was stressed. And, you know, I don't want to make it cheesy, like I was just constantly in character and I couldn't get out, but... When you're living every day amongst those folks, you do develop an accent. Hey, I'm just going to be here for a minute.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And then you come back in three hours and she's like, you've been gone for three hours. You said you're going to be gone for a minute. I said, well, I mean, a minute, you know. But I think ultimately what it is, and I think in a lot of cases, really what it is, High stress, low sleep.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And I think over time, that just starts to take a toll in general in terms of how you treat people, how you treat yourself. I was a big super workout buff, but I lost tons of weight during this thing because I know I've heard of guys that are working out all crazy while they're... I don't know where I would have found the time to do that.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I would sneak in, go into a kid's game in my UC car, drive way out to wherever, but... I didn't have time for much else. And then when we could go out and we had something that we wanted to do, I was freaking exhausted. I'd sleep through movies and would be snapping at people because I'm just irritated and tired as hell.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And those are the types of things that start to take a toll on a relationship.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Well, I would have loved to. I didn't even really think about it a lot. I tried to exercise as much as I could. But having worked out so hard before, and there's times where you work out, and there's times where you're like, eh, I might call it a workout. I might not.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yes. Brush and floss. I wore a bunch of baggy clothes anyway, so I didn't even notice that I was losing all the weight I'd worked so hard to get, which is no big deal. All that weight anyway, just at my age now, causes me to have surgery.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah. Not all of them, but yes, in general, yeah. Especially people that don't get long sentences. Most of the time, these dudes, when you're dealing with a police department or whoever, whatever investigative agency is coming in and doing short-term busts, these guys get in and out. The slap on the wrist is a slap on the wrist.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And if they think, hey, part of the penance that you pay to be in a gang is that you might have to do a year here and there, that's not a big penance to pay. So when these guys get rounded up and they're doing 25 and 30, that's a big penance to pay. And you'd be amazed the things that will come out of people's mouth at that point.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And I was surprised at some of the people that didn't, because the ones that didn't, I was hoping would. And the guys that did, I was hoping wouldn't and would just eat the years. But you just don't know. But I think the vast majority of people, when they're facing some significant consequence...
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
will change their behavior a little bit or at the very least my hope is when you come out and you are 48 that maybe now you'll be a little bit more mature because you're not going to go out and gangbang at 48 and no one's going to take you seriously anyway although people still do it's pretty amazing to see these old guys out there still talking about they're at OG and everything else but
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
My hope is that changes eventually. But again, these are not mature people in general. They grew up, hit the streets early, quit school, and then kept doing what they're doing, and then went in prison, learned how to do bad stuff better. And there are a few, and the ones that make it and rehabilitate to whatever degree are really great people because they're still people.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
They take the sociopath out, and they feel like they can learn a life lesson and go forward. And they're great people when they have that experience. That's somebody I can learn a ton from now. Either that's actually had that kind of experience and they can bring that forward, take that lesson forward and teach other people. That's invaluable.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
How do I make this case survive? I've been through the ringer and I've ran giant operations and these punk gangbangers are trying to put a label on me that's going to get me killed in the street. This is the lowest next to a pedophile. You can't put a label on somebody worse than this. Do I want to die? No. Was I willing to lose my job over making this successful? Yes.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Informants are a different breed altogether. They're stuck between wanting to be endearing themselves to you for ulterior motives. Yeah, they're getting paid, yeah. And wanting to play the gang game, but they're not really accepted as much as you would think they were, or else they'd be the ones you're chasing. Sure.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So it's an interesting thing, and you get to know them really well, because essentially, if you're working with an informant, they know who you are already, and you're still going into... a dangerous situation and they already know who you are. So the level of trust that you have to have with somebody at that point is pretty intense.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
And so you learn a lot more about them than you would somebody else, because in those instances, you can ask those hard questions. They're going through a questionnaire in order to be certified and blah, blah, blah. You do meet their families and you ask them a bunch of questions. You're like, man, why are you not showing up on time? Are you freaking using, you bastard?
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
You're going through the stuff. You feel like a big brother or something to them. So yeah, you wish the best for them. You want them to succeed. It's a long shot with a lot of folks, but I've seen some success.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
Yeah. And that's exactly how it works is they want to see you spending the little narc budget, which is not that big in the first place. And then I work up to the point where I'm dealing with so many people and buying little samples because I'm looking for the big guy, but all these other guys know that T's this big time dude and they want to sell me something. I'm like, hey, man, give me 100.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
I'll see if I can move what you got or whatever, just as then I'll do something for you. That kind of thing once I got to that point. But I'm spending the budget for the week for the whole team. And my sergeant at the time was the only reason why I was able to succeed, because I kept him apprised of what I was trying to do. He knew I had targets.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
He's known me for a long time by then and knew that these other dudes would come in at 10 o'clock. hang around the office, fart around a couple of cases or whatever, go to lunch from 12 to three, seven deep and then whatever. And meanwhile, I'm nowhere to be found. So these guys are complaining about me being some kind of loner. And I'm just like, dude.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
It was just exciting work for me. I just, I couldn't sit around.
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1161: Tegan Broadwater | How a White Cop Infiltrated the Crips Part Two
So yeah, he saw that and understood and allowed that to happen, essentially covered for me. Yeah. Knowing that I was working, what results I was getting to a reasonable extent. I would meet with him once a week and at least say, you know, this is kind of where I'm getting in close with this guy, blah, blah, blah.