Tara Palmeri
Appearances
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, well, I sort of been tiptoeing my way in here for a while. I was at Puck, which is new media, obviously, as well. I joined as one of their first reporters. So I kind of left the masthead. I left Politico and I'd worked at ABC News as a White House correspondent.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And I was really like trading on my name in a way, my journalism and my reputation, which is something that you've obviously built over decades, Chuck. So you shouldn't have a problem with that at all. And it just felt like the next natural step. I already had a podcast and a newsletter, and now I'm doing it for myself. I have a podcast still with Spotify.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I have a newsletter, The Red Letter, on Substack. I hope you all subscribe. And I'm on YouTube. And that was kind of exciting for me to do a partnership deal with YouTube. And to me, I realized that YouTube had become so influential, especially in this past election. I go home and I see my dad, who's a boomer, watching YouTube shows on his... TV one show after another, after another.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
It's an older crowd. You'd be surprised. The demo is a bit older. So I just, and I was making Instagram videos. My cousin was like my age, my thirties was telling me, why aren't you on TikTok? Why aren't you on Instagram? That's how I get my news. And it's like, I just realized that everyone around me was not getting the news where I was producing it. So I had to go to them.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I actually I kind of disagree with that, Chuck, actually, because some of the people that are the top influencers right now and I'm saying like news influencers that people go to for news, considering them to be journalists like the suffer. She's a top liberal commentator. She's up there with Tucker Carlson and like Ben Shapiro in terms of influencers on the various news sources.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Well, a lot of people go to her for news.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I understand that the public sort of blurs the lines. Yeah, I totally get what you're saying. But like, she was a caterer. I knew her through my friend who was also a caterer in New York, in D.C., sorry. And she was not in the business. People trust her more than they trust NBC. Right.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And honestly, like if you go and watch her do reporting, like she knows how to investigate. She has an opinion that she has a perspective. But some people would argue that a lot of people on the networks also have opinions and perspectives. And she's incredibly influential. You know, you saw Moshe Winonu do this. You saw Jessica Yellen.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
There are various other people who have like come before us and done this. I don't actually believe that you have to have a brand in some ways, I think it hurts. Like sometimes I don't want to play up my credentials from having worked in mainstream media because the fact that people don't trust the mainstream media right now, it makes them more suspicious of you.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I'll see in comments like, but you worked here and you worked there, it's like, Actually, I don't, I want you to take me for who I am and my journalism and the stories I've broke, but I don't, I'm also creating a community with people who don't go to traditional sources and I'm creating a community based on trust. And so they're just getting to know me. It's like dating. You know what I mean?
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Like they are getting to know me. I'm getting to know them. We are building a community of trust together and I'm in it for the long haul. And so it takes a long time. Like it's not a flash in the pan kind of thing with, with social media. You are, you are creating something that's bigger and longer lasting. So I don't necessarily agree that you have to be a big brand.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I've seen a lot of people who aren't big brand, who were never big brands before have millions and millions of people follow them and consider them to be news sources.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
But let's go back to- It's a lot of work though, Chuck. Yeah. even if that is truly what they're doing. Like it's not, it's not, it's a lot of work to make a few extra thousand dollars. Like I think what you're seeing is a lot of activists on both sides claiming to be journalists more so than anything else.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
But well, they're getting money from PACs.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I would do affiliate work when I was at ABC when I first started on air. And so, you know, I would be the journalist from Washington doing the affiliate work and the affiliates take their reporting extremely serious. They have a lot of trust. And yeah, you're the girl from Washington telling them what's going on. And there is a little bit of distrust.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I think there's a number of reasons why people don't trust the national media. It's very slick. The anchors are very good looking. It's very polished. They're very removed. They are like celebrities. Whereas the people that you watch on TV, it's a little bit in your local community. You recognize them. You see them. They're a little flawed. They're a little imperfect. They sound like you.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
They look like you. They have your vernacular. They speak in your voice, in your tones. And I think that's kind of the special thing about the social media as well. The thing that really seems to resonate, what I've noticed, is authenticity on social media. People don't want perfect. They don't want slick. They don't want highly produced. They'd rather see you perfect. Just warts and all.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And that is where they build the trust because they feel like they know who you are. They want to know a little bit about who you are as a person. One of the most popular podcasts I did was when I interviewed my own mother about why she was independent, why she wasn't sure who to vote for, why she couldn't decide between voting for Trump or Kamala Harris. And she's a North Carolina swing voter.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
That was one of my most popular podcasts. And it's like, mostly I think because people got to know me and my mother and our, and how we, our rapport and how we feel about my brother and my father and like our lives. And when I, even when I'm listening to my favorite podcast hosts, I'm actually sometimes a little bit more interested about them and their lives and the topics they're talking about.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And so I think like we have as journalists, we, you know, we're big J journalists and we stand there behind a mic and we sit at an anchor desk and all of these things. But what we're really doing is creating a barrier between us and the community. And like I what I do now that I'm an independent journalist is like I just interviewed Mark Cuban.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And what I said was like, hey, guys, send me your questions for Cuban. I'll ask them. Right. That's what people want. Like, why do we as the editors or the editorial board decide what gets between the people and the people we're interviewing? Aren't we supposed to be the conduits between them?
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, that's a good word for it.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Well, no one's no one's actually been hearing to it because we're not in Miami.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
How people treat you.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
No, I just think it's an interest.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I mean, it's going to be it's hard. It is actually hard as an independent journalist who doesn't have a left or right perspective. Like, I do think that's more difficult because I see it myself.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
It's easier to take a side, actually. I actually think it's easier.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
This is harder. They're coming back for their dopamine hits. You're reinforcing how they see the world. You are giving them their echo chamber. And I'm not for that. I actually want you to come to my page and be like, wait, what's she doing today? This is totally different. Like, you know, one day it's like Mark Cuban's warning that Elon Musk wants this recession.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
The next day it's the story behind the scenes of how, you know, Kamala Harris had to beg Joe Biden for an endorsement, a disaster that Democratic Party was this summer. Like, I take shots at both sides. Equal opportunity assassin. Like, I truly... Well, I'm just more like if it's a good story, I'm going to follow it. But that's not necessarily what people want.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Like a lot of people do want their their biases confirmed to them. But I also think like if you build it, they will come. There are some people who want independent journalists who are genuinely interested in holding just general power to account.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
It's like you might as well collapse your news department. Right.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, that's interesting. I just think also the White House Correspondents Association had a really rough week this week, you know, with the idea that they're changing the room, which, you know, I can see updates from time to time. I also like why wasn't Breitbart in the room, but Huffington Post was like you would argue they had about this. They had the same following and they just got in.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
So I understand that. But who knows how this change is going to what this change is going to be like? The people who are really going to be impacted are the TV journalists because they need that on air jousting. But like the print reporters, they don't they don't even really need to technically be in that room. They probably don't even want to be.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
It's holding them to account, though. It's holding them to account before the public. You're right, it's a temperature check.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah. I mean, like if you had a big scoop, Chuck, you wouldn't ask questions about the scoop before you publish it in the White House briefing. Of course not.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah. So like the real news is often like dug up behind the scenes and then, you know, you privately ask.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I agree with you. And I also have to say, though, the White House Correspondents Association, like being in these really tenuous times, like I also think they made a mistake with this comedian.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Eating bad chicken.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, I think you're right.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
It reflects the times. I mean, and also it does just what Amber Ruffin said that they are murderers. It's just so off the wall. And I'm talking to people, obviously, inside of the White House press corps, and they're just saying, like, we actually need PR right now. Like, yes, we need public relations, a press corps because of how badly they've taken a beating over this.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
People are comparing her to Kay Graham right now.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Well, their subscriber base has just exploded thanks to Signalgate.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, I mean, exactly. I didn't think of it as a source burn because I was like, it's a booking that didn't happen. I still am happy to talk to the sources, but I just felt like if he appeared on my show, then I could have just pointed to it. But there was like a 20 minute window that I couldn't make work.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And I didn't actually really follow up on it because at the time it was like, he's a two term congressman from Florida. who voted to certify the election for Joe Biden. Trump's gonna pick him out of everybody to be the national security advisor or some big role in the administration. I don't know what you were thinking at the time during the RNC convention, but that's what I was thinking.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And maybe I was wrong, but I felt like he was really trying to build his profile, but he wasn't the only one. Like everyone from like the VP down was trying to talk to journalists. So this whole idea that like the cardinal sin was talking to reporters, it's like that's what you do to survive in Trump world and to make it really. And that's what Trump does himself.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
So, yeah, I hope that people didn't see it that way. I just wanted to clear the air because truly this is a person who was trying to build his profile and it worked.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Well, you know what? When you're on the outside, you can do some interesting things. You can be a little bit more real and honest. There's no one there. There was no editor there being like, Tara, I don't think that's like, you know, you're not allowed to do that. And I'm like, I'm writing now a letter. I write in the first person. I speak from...
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
my point of view, my perspective, I try to offer, what is part of my mission is to peel back the onion a little bit and to show people how the journalism is done, how the sausage is made, because I think there's a lot of suspicion about us because they don't know exactly how we do our job.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
So whatever I can show without, you know, while protecting my sources and my relationships, I want to do, because I think that will build trust, not just in my community,
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
but in the broader journalistic community, because there are still a lot of really great reporters out there working at mainstream outlets because they have to, because they have kids that they didn't, you know, they didn't make a lot of money X, Y, Z. I'm just so happy to be single and have like, be able to do something like this, you know, but there are various reasons why other people can't leave mainstream media.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Right. But I think it's worth it to explain like, Hey, this is the transactional, like not transactional, but this is how it's done. Yeah.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I mean, more money. I mean, if I had more money, then I'd probably go and travel more to places and do kind of more investigative journalism. But I did just start a few months ago. So I assume my subscription base will build. I hope you'll subscribe to the Red Letter on Substack and support me.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
But yeah, my subscription-based ones, YouTube, and I'll be able to do more interesting work investigative. Like I've always been kind of an investigative journalist at heart. So I think more accountability journalism, more investigative journalism, a lot of it now really relies on my source relationships that I've built over years. And I covered the first administration of Trump.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I've known him since I was 22. I know you've probably known him even longer, but like I, you know, I'm using those sources, those relationships right now. But of course, like with more money, I can spend more time, have more support, have producers that are helping me, maybe editorial assistant that does some stuff. So I can just churn out more stuff.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Like, you know, more resources means more time and more free time to really do reporting. But I'm okay with the grind right now because it's actually like, it fills my cup. I love it. There's nothing better than working for yourself.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
This was right after the White House Correspondents Association dinner on a Sunday night.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
So they were drinking on the boozy brunches.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, no, I absolutely think about it. I'm creating a Sabbath. I'm not Jewish, but I guess the Christians believe in Sabbath as well. So yeah, I'm creating a day that is my Sabbath. Saturday is better for me than Sunday because Sunday is really a prep day for the rest of the week. I send out a newsletter on Sundays. But yeah, I think you have to choose one day
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
where you are truly disconnected, focused on yourself, your friends, your family, doing food shopping, taking care of yourself. Again, though, I hope as I grow that I will have more people who are able to help me and I can create a more balanced life. But until then, this is like any small business. You're just going to have to grind it out in the beginning and one day it'll be an empire.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And that's just life. But I think it's really worth it. And I think you always will enjoy these moments of the hustle in the beginning because those are the best moments. The little wins are huge. I took a screen grab the time I made a dollar on YouTube, my first dollar. And then I reached 10,000 followers. I take a screen grab. Then I hit this. You have to embrace every little win and moment.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Otherwise, you'll get burnt out. You have to fill yourself up with the accomplishments. Otherwise, yeah. You can't because it's all right.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Oh, I actually read my former employer Politico. I used to write the playbook. I still read it, even though they hired a guy from the UK that everyone's critical of. I like Jack. I knew I feel sorry.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
He's chippy. He's, you know, he's sweet. I like him. I like Brits. But yeah, so he's fine. And also, honestly, it's just it was just really an aggregator anyway. You know, so it's a nice aggregator of all the news of the day and overnight and starts you off. I love Mike Allen's play. You know, why am I calling it a playbook?
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Exactly. Axios' morning newsletter. I used to read Punchbowl, but I just feel like it's a little too in the weeds, even for me as a journalist.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Like the law. lobbying class. So it's probably a little bit more. I used to get into some before, but I just haven't opened it in a really long time. I just feel like if you can get through those few newsletters and then you click around, you go to a few homepages, you look on X, That's pretty much how I start my morning and then try to keep up for the rest of the day. What about you?
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
are information vehicles and certain ones aren't what do you what's the ones that you get the most where you learn the most i used to learn from x but i don't anymore it's just like me only place where i go to see people bullying me um but i i'm a millennial i'm 37 so i'm very much uh instagram and so i go there and i get a plethora of news they figured out my brain it's like you
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Self-help meets like my friends on vacation and their babies meets, you know, I get most new news stuff. I get Jessica Yellen. I get some of my colleagues that work in news on there. And, you know, it's interesting, like I've got to say, having produced stuff for socials.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
On Instagram, the stuff that's really highly produced, like the stuff that I have packaged and put it on there, it doesn't do well. The stuff that does the best on Instagram and all the apps are when I just look into the phone and talk like I'm talking on FaceTime and maybe add in some captions and subtitles and posting that online does way better. And I kind of get it.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
There's something about like the authenticity of it and seeing it. And most is a good aggregator. Like I'm looking for aggregators. The breaking stuff, you're going to get an alert on your phone and
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, I do more of the what or trying to find out what or trying to do new angles. I guess I could be more of an explainer, but I kind of like, I've always been like a bit of a scoop artist. I come from a tabloid background. I worked at the New York Post. I like to break news. I like to think of different angles.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And I let people like you who have, you know, a depth of historical knowledge and context do a lot of the explaining. And not that I don't think I can't. I have been reporting for long enough to do it.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
burned your stripes yeah and i should probably lean it you know truthfully i probably should lean into it more than i do but i get so much like i get so excited by like breaking a story it is kind of like it's an adrenaline rush i like calling sources i like reporting i like i love just like feeling like i've got some information that no one else has and it really drives me
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And whether it is a commodity or not, I mean, I'm sure I'll figure that out in my business plan, but it's a part of my DNA. So I think whatever makes you, you is you should stick with that. And so until that's no longer a part of me or has been scrubbed out of me, I'm probably going to keep doing it.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I mean, my dream is to spend like all day long, just calling people and having other people package it.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Exactly, exactly.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
I think there's still more to Signalgate. What do you think? Do you think there's more, Chuck?
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah. There's a lot of ego, a lot of testosterone, like Hegseth kind of like flexing his powers from infantry guy to now being able to like target, you know, countries like this world of Warcraft stuff. I mean, it's just like... There's just so much, so many personality issues that I see in the organization as well. And just the fact that, like, Trump is not willing to fire anyone. I mean...
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Right. OK, can I ask you a question, Chuck? Can't help myself. How are you feeling about being independent right now?
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Okay. So my mom's born in Poland. She became an American in 2001 or 2002 to vote for George Bush. Talk about like last one in, you know.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Right, exactly. I mean, there's a strategic reason for it. I mean, where they are placed in, you know, the map in Europe, they've always been invaded. They've always been toppled, whether it's Germany or Russia. There's always been a conflict. Where my family is from is actually Lviv now, but it was called Lviv when it was Poland. They moved, obviously, west towards Poland when my mom was born.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
My grandmother was in a camp in Hamburg. as a child. So, you know, she was used as like a test baby. Like they used their drugs and stuff and they tested them out on them in these war camps. So we, she speaks Polish. My mom speaks Polish and people would think, oh, you're Italian, Tara Palmieri. My dad is Italian American, but our family goes back to like 1885.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
They just all were a bunch of Italians that lived in Hoboken forever. So it's really my mom's side I feel closest to. I've always heard war stories in the house. You know, my Nazis obviously invaded, conscripted my grandfather into Nazi youth. My grandfather was also locked up by the commies for five years. So it was also like... There's so many like there's so much intensity and anxiety.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And it's kind of like I'm not Jewish, but like I understand the Jewish anxiety as well, because it's in the DNA of our people.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Exactly. They're just like an anxious people in general. And my grandmother like cries and watches the war in Ukraine, my babja. And so, you know, I think, but at the same time, like we're a family that's split, like half of them are super Trumpy and the other half and the Polish half, most of them are Trumpy except for my babja and my mom and the rest of the Poles are Trumpy.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And then my, you know, my dad's very Trumpy as well. He's like MAGA before MAGA was a thing. Right. Hannity and Combs, Rush Limbaugh. He turned off Fox when they called the election for Biden and never turned it on again, which is how he found YouTube. But the point is, is that like, you know, it's I come from a mixed family and my mom votes for Trump, then Biden and then Kamala.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Like it's it's kind of random. So. They vote with their pocketbooks. You know, I'm the first person in my family to graduate from college. I'm first generation American. So, like, there's a lot of different, like, plays in there. But I think for them, like, just being Polish, they're very much aware of that border and what that means.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
We don't sit around and talk about NATO, though. No, and I understand that.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Okay. Well, first of all, my grandmother always goes to me, Tara, listen to me. Trump does not understand Putin. And she's like, she's just thinks that Trump is getting played. Like every day she says that.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Although she was actually really turned off by MSNBC because she followed the Mueller investigation with the Russian collusion. And when there was no result, she stopped watching it. She was a huge fan of Rachel Maddow and just stopped altogether.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Exactly. That's what the community is based on. Exactly. So... You know, it's hard to say. Yeah, like I said, our family is from Lviv, which was conquered by many people, Austrians, Germans, Russians. It was the Austro-Hungarian Empire. My grandmother speaks Ukrainian, Russian, Polish. You have to speak all the languages.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, the borders have constantly changed. And because of the changes, like, yeah, you have enemies. But for the most part, like, I don't think my family thinks that way because again, like my grandmother left like before the war, I mean, before the wall fell and she's just like, she obviously is constantly on phone calls to Poland.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
She watches TV, Polonia all day long, but we, they're definitely more of like allies of Ukraine. And like Ukraine was Russia for a long time. Like they were all Soviet union. Yeah. There are a lot of people who are like the Ukrainian state wasn't, it wasn't a state until 1991. And they'll say things like that. But yeah, Those are, I'm actually more concerned about my brother's generation.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
My brother is 27, 28. He doesn't understand why people fear Russia. And that's because he listens to like Tucker Carlson every day. That's his main source. And Ben Shapiro, like those are his top news sources. And I was like, talk to Bob Chee. Like she'll explain to you why people fear Russia. And that's the problem.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
No, I would be terrified. Would you?
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
And I don't think and they know that the Trump administration wouldn't bail us out.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, that's a really, really good question. Yeah.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
If you wanted to get out of prison, you'd have to start putting out really pro-Trump, pro-Trump, you know, voices and material and stuff like that. You have to just like appeal to his flattery. Like it is actually easy to get him on your side. But as a journalist, like you don't do that.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Okay. First, please subscribe to my newsletter, The Red Letter on Substack. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber. And on YouTube, you can find me at Tara Palmieri. That's T-A-R-A-P-A-L-M-E-R-I.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
No, no pay-for.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Oh, I mean, I have lots of scoops and stuff on there and information that you can't get elsewhere. So that's why you should pay for the Substack.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Oh, and for me personally, yeah, my work will get better and better with more and more resources. And And yeah, and I think you'll enjoy it. And if you don't, you can always communicate with me and tell me what you like and don't like. It's an open line. So thank you, Chuck, for having me and supporting me. And I'm supporting you from the sidelines. I don't think you'll need much help.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
It's a lot easier to go to another network. That's for sure. Don't you think? Yeah.
The Chuck ToddCast
How To Cover Trump As An Independent Journalist With Tara Palmeri
Yeah, when I saw you over the summer, I just kind of got the sense that you were kind of ready to like go out on your own and you were sort of, you were feeling like- Look, I really want to solve this problem of the information ecosystem.