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Susan Leibowitz

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Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1042.125

Hi, Josh. Always good to see you.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1049.348

It was difficult because there were a lot of different players, because this investigation went a lot of different directions, and we had to follow every direction it went in and get people to talk about each of those things. Even on social media, I saw people were just saying, there's so many people in this episode.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1108.838

They have no idea whose DNA it is, and they have no plans at this point to follow up on it. She didn't go out that Saturday. On Friday... She was with her friend Michelle, who was in our episode. They were running around trying to find a place where she could find a printer because she had to print out documents for insurance because they'd been broken into. So she was running around on Friday.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1130.156

Maybe she somehow picked up some male DNA. The cops at this point, we asked them about that, and they have no plans to follow up on that DNA as of now.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1148.776

No one who knew and loved Desiree was happy about the Alfred plea. The family was not happy, but they felt they had no choice.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1175.267

Okay, answering the second part first, there was no trial. There was just that sentencing hearing, and Scott is sitting in the back with his dad. I looked at the footage, and there he was sitting in the back. So he definitely was at the sentencing hearing. He did not speak like her mom and aunt and other relatives. Marty never said Paige put him up to this.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1195.452

I mean, if he had, this case would have gone in a different direction.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1203.285

But he never admitted he did it either. So if he had, that would be sort of admitting it. Like, hey, Paige, put me up to it.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1215.34

Correct. And I wrote to him to see if he'd tell me something. He did not want to tell me anything.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1221.048

Yeah. Marty, I emailed through that jail email, and he said to leave him alone, and he wasn't going to say anything. He knew what the truth was, but he wasn't going to share it with me, basically.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1245.99

Well, you know, we can't fact check her memories. So, I mean, she did remember some things. She didn't remember some things. One of our producers who met with her thought, you know, that she legitimately doesn't remember things due to her own issues. But who knows? I don't know.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1278.711

That's correct. They couldn't find any evidence. I mean, when the digital evidence came in, they spent a long time pouring through every text, every bit of digital communication between those two, and they didn't find anything that in any way indicated they were tied to the murder.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1297.566

The phones were where they were supposed to be.

Dateline NBC

Talking Dateline: Deadly Entanglement

1304.917

Thanks for having me.