Susan Glasser

Look, let's stipulate on the front end here that corruption knows no party and no bounds. We are here in Washington, both Eric and I, and we've been around long enough to see Democrats and Republicans. Of course, Menendez, not the only gold bar. I remember there was a congressman, Bill Jefferson, years ago. They found piles of cash in his freezer.

Look, let's stipulate on the front end here that corruption knows no party and no bounds. We are here in Washington, both Eric and I, and we've been around long enough to see Democrats and Republicans. Of course, Menendez, not the only gold bar. I remember there was a congressman, Bill Jefferson, years ago. They found piles of cash in his freezer.

In his freezer.

In his freezer.

In his freezer.

In his freezer.

Right.

Right.

So I want to say that on the front end. However, I also want to say that even for we journalists who are generally allergic and should use this word unprecedented very, very sparingly, that this is a fair word in my view to use right now for what's happening. And the reason that I think Eric is being cautious about the word corruption, it's good to be cautious.

So I want to say that on the front end. However, I also want to say that even for we journalists who are generally allergic and should use this word unprecedented very, very sparingly, that this is a fair word in my view to use right now for what's happening. And the reason that I think Eric is being cautious about the word corruption, it's good to be cautious.

But what I would say is that that's what we used to have a Justice Department for. And the thing that I think is the particular tragedy of the moment is not only that Donald Trump and his family members are literally adding zeros to the amounts involved in any previous known examples.

But what I would say is that that's what we used to have a Justice Department for. And the thing that I think is the particular tragedy of the moment is not only that Donald Trump and his family members are literally adding zeros to the amounts involved in any previous known examples.

You know, they're adding a lot of zeros.

You know, they're adding a lot of zeros.

Can you put Air Force One in a freezer?

Can you put Air Force One in a freezer?

Yes. But it's not only the scale and scope of the corruption that take it into a different realm, but the fact that they've systematically gone after weakening the rule of law that would go along with constraining our leaders from accepting this kind of money, from You know, it used to be a big deal to do something that had the appearance of potential impropriety or the appearance of confraction.

Yes. But it's not only the scale and scope of the corruption that take it into a different realm, but the fact that they've systematically gone after weakening the rule of law that would go along with constraining our leaders from accepting this kind of money, from You know, it used to be a big deal to do something that had the appearance of potential impropriety or the appearance of confraction.

I mean, this is what a lot of Washington, quote unquote, accountability reporting was like when I got here as a kid right out of college in the 1990s, okay? You know, there was a whole Bill Clinton fundraising scandal, no controlling legal authority, and Yeah, forget about that, right? Okay, now we've just exploded the campaign finance laws.

I mean, this is what a lot of Washington, quote unquote, accountability reporting was like when I got here as a kid right out of college in the 1990s, okay? You know, there was a whole Bill Clinton fundraising scandal, no controlling legal authority, and Yeah, forget about that, right? Okay, now we've just exploded the campaign finance laws.