Stu Burguiere
Appearances
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
It really is incredible. These things move really quickly in the Trump world. I think in a vacuum, I'm not a huge fan of tariffs either. Tariffs are a tax, and they do tend to do some economic damage. They raise prices. Donald Trump talked about that very specifically and said we could be seeing some short-term harm from this, but long-term, he thinks it's going to be worth it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
What I think is kind of fascinating about the way everyone's reacted over this particular round of tariffs is we're all kind of acting like we weren't here for the first term. The first term, a lot of this was talked about as well. Some of it went into place. Some of it was more targeted than initially proposed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And some of it wound up just being what most of, I think, these threats are from Donald Trump, which are negotiating tactics. We all know how Donald Trump operates. And he puts something like this out there, a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico. And within two days, he's already got a giant chunk of what he wanted to get done and a month delay.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And the month delay in these tariffs indicates he wants more. He hasn't had everything that he wants yet, but he's giving them a little bit of time to come across those lines so that these things don't have to go into place. And he is just able to do this in a way. that I think is central to his overall philosophy, that we don't need to apologize for being Americans.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
We don't need to apologize for being a global superpower. You saw this with Panama, your great interview with Rick just a few minutes ago. The Panama Canal is in the hands of Panama because we all kind of felt bad. The Carter administration was like, oh, we don't want to be colonialists. You guys can have this incredibly valuable thing that we built with our blood and treasure.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
You can just have it. And Donald Trump is turning that around and saying, we don't need to apologize for being Americans. We're going to be aggressive. We're going to stand for what we actually believe in and try to turn around these agreements that we have with these other countries that are not beneficial to us. America first kind of playing out in real time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Yeah, it is working. You know, often, you know, when I talk to my daughter about cleaning her room, I will tell her, I don't expect you to be perfect. I just want you to care. I want you to actually care. That's all I'm asking. And I feel like that's all we're asking of like a Mexico. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
You don't we understand that you're not going to be able to stop every single person coming across the border. We have to have security on our side for that reason. Right. But you have to actually care. You can't be encouraging people. You can't be telling people that, you know, go to the border and please send back all the money to our country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
You can't be letting people from your southern border traverse through your entire nation without stopping them as they go to our border. That's a basic ask. And that's why, you know, look, tariffs as an economic policy, definitely not my favorite thing. But it is, everyone knows that, right? We know that it kind of can do some damage to both sides.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
What our argument is, as the big boys on the block, is to say that, look, we know that the damage that it will do to you is a lot worse than it's going to do to us. So we will sit here and we will wait you out if we have to. We'd like to get to a place, and Trump has talked about this in the past, we'd love to get to a place where there was none of this stuff. There were no tariffs at all.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Everyone was free trading. Everyone was dealing with each other fairly. We're not there. And I think it's largely because of the stance America has had for seemingly a generation of being sorry for who we are. I listened to your interview with Marco Rubio, Megan, the other day. And at one point you said, you know, these are smaller countries.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
The argument is that we can sure we can bully around Colombia. And Marco Rubio is like, you know, I don't want to call it bullying. It wasn't it's not bullying. I mean, you don't have to call it that. But we are sort of big boying the rest of the world right now. And that's OK. Like. That's a good thing. It's a place we should get back to. We shouldn't be unfair to people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
We shouldn't be unfair to other countries. We shouldn't just terrorize them for the sake of the pleasure.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
But what we should be able to do is stand on our values, prioritize our own citizens and the economy they have to deal with and the safety and crime situation that they have to deal with on a daily basis and say, look, we'll work with you to stop these problems, but you have to care about it a little bit. And right now it doesn't look like you do.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Yeah, no, you're not going to hear much about that. And I like Harry Enten, and generally he does some good work, actually, at CNN, as opposed to some others over there. But you look at a poll on tariffs, you're not going to get the entire picture, I don't think. I mean, again, I don't like them. I would be in that 51%, generally speaking.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Some targeted tariffs at times have been beneficial, but we do see prices go up. I mean, we raised tariffs on...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
you know washing machines years ago by 25 and the price for washing machines went up 25 and people had to pay more for that um sometimes that can be worth it especially if it's targeted in a way but like i don't even think that's what we're talking about here you know tariffs as a policy are one thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And you can look at that and see what the negative consequences are and some of the positive consequences. Really what it is, though, is negative consequences for both sides and who can kind of withstand the heat that comes from that. But more here is what we're seeing, like the best case scenario is what's happening with Mexico right now. The tariff didn't even go into effect. He just said it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
That was him just saying a thing. And because he said a thing, and people, thank you, Megan, people actually believed him for once. It wasn't an empty threat. People knew he wanted to do this and would do it if he had to. And because of that, we're starting to get the things that we should have already been receiving anyway.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Mexico should have been taking this situation seriously on the border before all of this. And this is a great commercial to everybody who's out there running a foreign nation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Yeah, make free trade free, I think is a great way to go. And this is part of it. And I will say, I only once ordered from one of those companies, a workout shirt. It was like $2.99. And I did not think there was a way to make me look worse in the gym than I already do. It never works out. But that did it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
I sure hope Tom Homan and Donald Trump hear that because that certainly sounded like a challenge to me. You know, I was playing a little game of chicken. And I after watching what this president is doing around the world right now, I don't think I'd want to challenge him to that particular game. Seems like a losing venture.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
You know, I feel like, you know, you mentioned the polls of the American people. And they see this, I think, in the same way. I know that when I drive home every day, if I roll through a freaking stop sign, there just always happens to be a police officer there to remind me that that's not actually allowed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
If I go a few miles an hour over the speed limit, they are there to make sure that I know I'm not following that rule. And yet we're supposed to just accept that. That people cross the border, make a major life decision like that against our laws and set up life here for years and years and decades and have families and generations. They're not following the rules.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
They either have to have some sort of legal ID or fake ID or they're not paying taxes, most likely, certainly other crimes being committed. But like that is something I think the American people see is like, hey, if you're breaking the rules, there should be a consequence to that. We shouldn't be treating you unfairly, but we should be treating you like everybody else gets treated.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
That's how I feel like I'm going to get treated. I mean, unless you're Hunter Biden, it seems like when you commit a crime, you usually have some consequences to it. And so I'm not surprised the American people feel that way. It's only rational to feel that way.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And if you're Phil Murphy, if you think that you can stand up and essentially say to the country, screw you, we don't care what you think about our laws. This is a law I don't like. And so therefore I will break it and I will be so out there. I will tell you about it on television and expect nothing to happen to me. That is not a society that has a civilized rule of law.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Well, it's hard to find the right people when you've created a totally new type of person that you have to somehow fit into your quota. It's got to be difficult. I could see the challenge there. Totally. I have two reactions to this. One is I put on my American hat and I look at this and I think this is very disconcerting and terrible because it would be great if we had –
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
An opposition that may very well get back into power someday that had some level of sanity, that maybe they saw how things went over this past election and reacted to it and said, hey, maybe we shouldn't go down these roads anymore. It would be great that if we lost an election, the other side wasn't so crazy as to throw us this far off track every time they win.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
The other part of me just really wants conservative candidates to win. And my eyes light up when I see stuff like this. They've learned absolutely nothing. They are just as ridiculous and terrible with this stuff as they were before they got slaughtered in this election. You'd think a moment like that would make you have a bit of self-reflection, Megan, but apparently not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
It's a puzzle that they can't put together. I mean, they really don't know how even to attack it. Again, maybe if you had that real moment of self-reflection, you might be able to find a path.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
But if you think about the incentives of not only activist politics, but also the internet, it's really hard for a party that has kind of crazy views and goes to the American people and says these crazy views and locks you in with that sort of maniacal purity test that they've been putting people on over the years. How do you unwind that?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
You know, I mean, look at, you know, look at someone like John Fetterman, who, again, is a Democrat who says Democratic things in both Democratic ways 90 percent of the time, but just occasionally comes out with something that I would call rational. He's treated as a villain for that. They've excised every pro-life Democrat from the party. They're all gone at this point.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And they have so many different problems here. It's not just DEI and it's not just all the things that we've been talking about here. I mean, you mentioned Phil Murphy. Go back to Phil Murphy's performance during COVID. I mean, he is one of the only guys that could challenge Andrew Cuomo for the level of incompetence. And what do they do with these people? They reward them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Andrew Cuomo is probably going to be the next mayor of New York City. So they don't know.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Oh, you can keep going on that strain forever if it's up to me, Megan. It deserves to be said. He was he terrorized the entire state during this period and went on TV and acted. Yeah, he is legitimately a villain. And I will say to less attention because I think of generally Cuomo being such an arrogant jerk on top of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
less attention went to phil murphy but he did many of the same things during that period he got almost no heat for it but like he did get some attention from the voters of of new jersey who made his re-election a lot closer we're seeing elections in new jersey get much much closer we went through a period i mean my entire life analyzing politics and i have to do like you know i
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
You'd have to call the states and do all the political predictions over here at The Blaze. And as I go through that process, my entire life, there was always one poll in New Jersey that showed it kind of close and gave Republicans a little hope. And then when election day would come, you'd, of course, have your hopes and dreams thwarted.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
I think for the first time, New Jersey is in play. You mentioned what Scott Pressler is doing. This stuff is actually happening now. And the American people are sick of what they've been getting. And if the Democrats don't wake up, they will turn into a party that's just completely irrelevant in a lot of places in this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And frankly, I think that's a good outcome for the future of the nation. But it is one they really have to face right now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Yeah, no, it's very true. I think they are. Now, I hesitate to be too confident here, right? Things do change. I think the Democrats felt like this back probably in 2008 after Barack Obama. I remember people writing books saying Republicans would only be a regional party from here on out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And things change quickly. The next election was the Tea Party election. So it does change quickly. And you got to be really, really careful. But like when I look at that, you know, the New York Magazine cover you mentioned, obviously they cropped out all the black people to make it look like it was an all white audience. But when you look at that whole picture.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
That's an inspiring picture of our future. It is. I mean, you're right. It was like a bunch of good looking younger people who were like inspiring, engaged in politics, cared about, you know, relationships in a traditional sense. You know, when when when you become the uncool party, it's really hard to shake that. We saw that back in the 80s, but like the just say no thing when it came to drugs.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Look, the right message, obviously, you shouldn't do drugs. But, you know, it was just seen as uncool. And for a long time, Democrats took advantage of that, showing Republicans as the uncool party. And over time, they turned to this party that was like, you know, just say no to the guy making the funny joke.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Just say no to the guy who says follow the law or who says that you can notice things like women playing against men in their sporting events. They turn into a bunch of Karens, right? They're like constantly policing our lives. It's Margaret now. It's been changed. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. Is that another one I have to change?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
I watched exactly 0% of the Grammys, though I did see some pictures and some revealing photos in one sense. But yes, I did check in on it a little bit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Yeah, I mean, just absolutely embarrassing. I do have the same dress and it was my alternative choice for this interview. I'm glad I didn't wear it. But, you know, it is just like it's the devaluing of it. Right. Like it's just like if this is all you are, then what are you? Right. And and it is a sort of kind of revolting thing. sort of statement about America.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And Kanye West has spent, I don't know, he's been all over the board, but at one point he was singing religious songs. So I don't know what's happening with that. And I was also concerned about the cushions on the chairs inside the venue, because if you're not wearing clothing, I mean, I just don't think that's sanitary. It just seems like...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
I don't want to have cocktails next to somebody dressed like that. I feel like, you know, just spray everything down after if you're in the Grammys.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
I think maybe as a conservative and someone who can appreciate some of the things Donald Trump does as president, we saw Kanye West put on a red hat for like two weeks and we lost track of the point that he's just completely insane. He was insane when he was saying George Bush doesn't like black people. He was insane when he went to the Donald Trump side.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
He might have made a point or two that he liked, but he was insane. He was insane when he ran for president against Donald Trump. He was insane when he started hanging out with Nick Fuentes and becoming an anti-Semite. And he's insane now. That is the really simple summary, I think, of everything with Kanye West. None of this makes any sense because he... is insane. He's a crazy person.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
And like, this is not a clinical diagnosis.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
I mean, it's fascinating. She said diverse voices or different voices from different backgrounds are important. Well, sure. I mean, we don't want the same person singing all the songs. We don't want everyone. I mean, you do get a different perspective. That's got nothing to do with skin color. No one's saying that we shouldn't have different people from different backgrounds.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
It's this maniacal focus on immutable characteristics that are the problem. And especially when you're promoting people who are less qualified, who knows what went on exactly, of course, with the air crashes and stuff.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
But we do know that that stuff is a serious problem inside the FAA and an uncountable amount of government agencies that are doing important things that are supposed to help Americans. If you're focused on that, you're not focused on finding the best person. You're not focused on finding the best singer. You're not focused on finding the best lyricist.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
You're focusing on genitals or skin color or whose genitals you like the best or whatever. whatever intersectional value we're supposed to be caring about this week. When you're caring about that, you're not caring about merit. I thought that was great. You know, Pete Hegg said that in his term. I know Marco Rubio has spoken about it. All these appointees from Trump are talking about it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Pick the best person. Don't care about those things. And that's the way to go.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
I mean, it's funny because they praise DEI so much, Megan, but if DEI hits their industry, a lot of boring white guys like me are going to be winning hip hop awards. And I don't think that's what they want. I'm concerned about the way they look at this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Yes. Don't look at the red carpet. Take your kids away. It's funny, too, with Lady Gaga, you mentioned trans people are invisible. This terminology is so strange. Like, if anything, I feel like trans people are the most visible. Every time they walk down the street, I can tell immediately. Too visible. Way too visible. I want to know less. I want to see less. I want to know less.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Please don't wear Kanye's wife's dress anywhere. But this is – it's just like this standard stuff that I feel like – look, these are not the smartest people among us. I mean I'm not sitting here thinking that they're all necessarily going into deep thought about what they're saying. A lot of them just – They've got a vibe that DEI is good to them, so they're going to say it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
But you'd think there'd be some thought after all of this has happened, right? You had this supposed mandate in 2020, which has gone away. The culture is moving in the opposite direction. The people who are, I think, standing out right now are the people pushing back against this old guard, which encompasses DEI and so many other things. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
It's great to be fair to everybody, but like just on the merits, Beyonce should not, you know, I just, I don't think enough of her music to believe that she could possibly have more, more awards than all of those people. I think you just mentioned combined.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Tariff Threats Get Results, and Absurdity at Grammys and DNC Conference, with Ric Grenell, Stu Burguiere, and Coach Tuberville | Ep. 998
Megan, you're the best. Thank you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Amazing. I mean, the time to look into it is before the entire city burns to the ground. That's kind of the time you target as a governor, someone who's competent to look into such matters as not having water to fight fires. You don't look into it after you You're just looking at a bunch of rubble. You look at it before the issue. That's entirely your job as governor.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And he's failed at it over and over and over again. And that's going to be his fallout. Of course, he's going to be basically the multiple Spider-Man meme where everyone's just pointing fingers at each other. That's what's going to happen in California. They're all going to, I guess, decide to blame everybody. Of course, Donald Trump is going to get his share of the inexplicable blame.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
He's not even president of the United States yet, but this is still going to be his fault somehow. You know, that's all out there. And this is something that, as you point out, someone like Ron DeSantis doesn't do. They look at this stuff in advance and try to fix it beforehand. It happens. And Gavin Newsom has had multiple issues like this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I mean, if you go back to even his handling of COVID, which was horrid and horrific, but one of the first things he did when he got into office, and this is covered in a Michael Lewis book, not a conservative author by any means, but they had an infectious disease expert who was running their health department for the state government. But the problem with her was she was white and blonde.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And Gavin Newsom wanted a person of color in that role and hired someone who had absolutely no idea what they were doing whatsoever. This is not me talking about this. Again, this is a liberal author who describes the story in detail. And I'm sure I wouldn't have agreed with everything that an infectious disease expert would have recommended for COVID either.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I probably would have my problems with it. But the idea that you would put someone in an important position like that before COVID, not knowing that it was coming, just putting someone in there who looked the way that you wanted them to look, going all out DEI with the lives of Californians, instead of picking someone who was already on staff and already lined up for the job,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Who was an infectious disease expert because she was white and blonde. This sort of stuff has been foundational to Gavin Newsom and the way he has run the state of California. And people shouldn't forget it. This is his fault. This is his fault. It's Karen Bass's fault. And he needs to be held responsible for it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Yeah, you're totally right. And of course, that's why they keep going to climate change, right? I mean, we could talk about there not being any water available in Los Angeles. But I did some deep research, which is looking at a map of Los Angeles. And there's this giant body of water right there called the Pacific Ocean, which there's tons and tons of water right there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
The question is whether it's distributed to the correct places. You need to have it in the right place. to be able to put out the fires. And that's the thing we're criticizing. It's not a lack of water. Of course, they have water. They've had lots of rain. They have these reservoirs for a reason. The fact that they weren't full, I mean, look, this is a real stress. We can't downplay that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
We can't say that this is an easy thing to deal with. These fires, even when you're incredibly prepared. They're still very difficult to deal with. And when you have hundreds of homes burning down and having damage to all the connections between them, you're going to have issues with water pressure. But that's secondary to what you can do. I don't think anyone sitting here
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
and saying, hey, you should have been able to stop this fire completely. I don't think anyone's saying that, hey, you need to be able to control the winds of Santa Ana. We're not the ones that are constantly saying we can control the weather to the 10th of the degree. That's them. I think there are going to be natural disasters, and sometimes they will do real damage.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
The question is, how much of this is the fault of the government, and how much of it could have been prevented. When you talk about climate change, you might be talking, maybe it is, I mean, I haven't seen much evidence of this, but maybe it is a little bit drier. Maybe there is a slight around the fringes difference when it comes to climate change.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
We're talking about less than a degree Celsius over a century, but maybe it did something. However, that's not the main story. If the main story is it burns 998 homes instead of 1,000, We're not celebrating that. We want this to be a situation that's under control.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And at the very least, the people who are there risking their lives, standing there with their fire trucks outside of these homes, watching the flames with the hoses in hand and nothing coming out of that. That is the type of thing that is inexcusable.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Yeah, it's funny how diversity was their most important thing. But as soon as it's going to be beneficial to them to blame a lesbian firefighter, they're going to be blaming her, I'm sure. It's true. Which is really fascinating how that switches around. The DEI doesn't last all the way to accountability. I'm glad to see her out there talking like this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And it's funny because I think this kind of shows where conservatives come from on these DEI issues. If she's actually like the best firefighter for the job, fantastic. Be great. I don't care. Like whoever it is, whatever skin color they have, whatever genitals they have, whichever genitals they like, whatever it is, I don't care. I want the fires put out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And I think it's really important that you have somebody who's at least stepping up publicly now and doing this while this is going on. I will say. I think we need to think a little deeper than that when it comes to what they can do.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
If you're having to be in this position and you know your state is letting you down now, don't wait until half of your city is ash before you start saying these things. Call them out publicly beforehand. Let people know. It might cost you your job. It's possible. But you could be saving thousands of lives, hundreds of lives. We don't know. You said that number is 24.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
As you said, Megan, that number is going up. That's going up by a lot. I can't even imagine where it's going to end. It's a terrifying thought. So if you can get out in front of this, if you're one of these positions, you know these things. I might not know this. Megyn Kelly might not know this because we can't follow the inner workings of every police fire department around the country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But if you make us aware of it, we can talk about it and maybe draw attention to it before these tragedies happen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
It sure is. It's saying a lot. And I think you're right. I do have my doubts because I've seen California go down roads where I thought they might wake up and they haven't. But I think you're right in this circumstance. And I think it's because it's crossed some weird line for people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
As I'm watching the footage of Los Angeles burned to the ground, we were showing side-by-side photos of this and Nagasaki. And you can't really tell the difference other than one being black and white and one in color. And I feel like as a person who grew up in the United States, we're a little spoiled here, right? We have, I think, the best country that's ever existed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And I just look at this country as a place where something like this can't happen. And I realized as I was having that thought, how many times I've had that thought recently. You know, watching COVID happen, I thought that can't possibly happen when Italy was going through those shutdowns. I remember thinking like that could never happen here. And then weeks later, where were we?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Watching the withdrawal from Afghanistan, this can't be happening with America. Watching Maui burn, this can't be happening in America. But these things keep happening in America, Megan, over and over and over again. This, I think, is deeper than Karen Bass's Or even Gavin Newsom, who's, I will agree with you, while the city was burning to the ground, so was Gavin Newsom 2028.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And we can be thankful for that one little slice of this story. But like, this is happening a lot. And we have to make a major change. Thank God Trump is coming into office here in a week. from today. Thank God that's happening. That's a piece of the puzzle, but it is bigger. I don't even think the president of the United States can handle a transition like that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
It's going to take all of us to wake up and realize that we're going down a really dark road.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
It's jaw-dropping. I mean, it looks like a disaster movie. There's a reason why they always place these disaster movies in LA and Los Angeles, because there's all these landmarks and things that you recognize. And every movie with the rocket, it has a bunch of buildings being knocked down in Los Angeles. This is what it looks like. I mean, it really looks like that in real life.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And it's shocking because... You know, some level of pre-planning could have prevented a lot of this. We saw this with Caruso, who was able to protect the property that he owns, this mall, by hiring private firefighters and bringing them out and protecting a lot of the structures around this facility as well.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Exactly, exactly. Now, I don't know. I know you were a lawyer. I don't know if you're a firefighter, Megan, but you seem to understand the concept that water puts them out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Well, you want people to do every role, but you do seem to have nailed the idea that water puts fire out. And that is a really important thing that many in California apparently didn't understand. And like, look, you know, he had a lot of resources, you know, and by the way, this guy could have been mayor. You may have seen the DeSantis approach to this fire if he was. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But, you know, he could have been mayor and he's not. And he has a lot of resources. But I would venture to say, despite his personal wealth, which is significant, he does not have the resources of the state of California at his disposal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And my guess is that if California actually prioritized this, as opposed to seeing how many lesbian firefighters they could hire and making sure their number one priority was diversity, which is what these fire departments were saying and these cities were saying leading up to this event,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
If your priority, number one, was instead making sure that if a fire began, if the conditions presented themselves where one could be coming, that we had hundreds, thousands of these trucks ready to go at our disposal, number one, let's get this thing fired up so we can go and protect as many of these communities as possible. That's not to say there wouldn't be any damage.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
You know, look, nature has a pretty strong will, and it's not always easy to overcome, but mastery of these situations by human beings is how we've excelled. People used to die at rates 30, 40, 50 times as much from natural disasters 100, 150 years ago.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
We've been able to lower that in a significant amount because of mastery of these issues, being able to protect people from weather and all these disasters. And California has this. We all know how to do it. There's plenty of water right there. There's plenty of ways to make this a lot better. to be this. And now we're looking at one of the worst disasters in American history.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Amen. Oh, God.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I mean, it's the same stuff over and over and over again. I mean, I don't know how they could even possibly believe that this would work, especially when I will say maybe with more blame I place on the shoulders of a really annoying white guy who thinks he's incredibly good looking, Gavin Newsom. I mean, I put this centrally on his shoulders. What's that? I don't know what that is.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I seem to be blaming people for their competence level, not their skin color, which is the way you're supposed to do it. Though she does seem terrible at this job. And, you know, part of your job in the leadership position.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
She's very, very dumb. And I will say it makes sense that she was on the short list to become vice president under Joe Biden. I mean, California incompetence and stupidity seems to be a prerequisite to be considered for that job. And I don't know if it would have been better or worse if she got that job. Maybe the people of Los Angeles are wishing that she did.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Right. That's exactly it. Especially when you're saying it that way. It's one thing to say, okay, we want to make sure that we're giving everyone an equal chance. Of course, that's the appropriate way to look at anyone who comes in for any job. But to say it's your number one priority just shows that you don't care about...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Your customers, if you're a business saying that, if you're saying our number one thing is equity and diversity, well, what about the hamburgers you're making? Shouldn't that be the number one thing? And when it comes to something like this, which is serious, it's life and death, your number one
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
idea maybe should have been how to get water to the areas that might need it in case of a fire, and maybe have some backup systems and pre-planning done to go against that. And the fact that that is their number one priority is terrifying. And that statement about... I find it insulting in so many ways, this idea that when someone comes to rescue for a fire, they need to look like you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
First of all, no people in America think that. I don't know anyone. I've never met anyone in my entire life, Black, white, Asian, Hispanic, anybody who has ever thought that way. that they want their doctor to look like them because they can't get good care if they don't look like them, or a firefighter or a police officer. That's not the way that's supposed to work.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
You want someone to come in and do the job competently. You want merit to play into the decision. as to how they got that job. You don't want skin color or genitals to be the factor there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And secondarily, the part of this that's so crazy is when they say, hey, we want someone who looks like the residents to come rescue them is implicit in that, is that everyone who has a certain skin color looks alike. I got news for you. You know, I happen to be a white guy. And, you know, a lot of WWE wrestlers are also white guys. You can tell the difference between us.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
We don't look the same at all. It's really kind of this insulting thing that like, well, I guess all Asians look alike. So we need to send Asians who look like other Asians into the Asian communities. is racist on a whole separate level. So this is just like a bunch of crazy intersectional roads going into this area where all the cars just seem to keep crashing in between.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
That's how my dad went to, in the presence of an obese lesbian, Megan. Thank you for bringing that up.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Look, I don't know. Maybe if it's Gina Carano coming around the corner, I'm going to be okay with it. I don't know. Maybe there's some level of that. I mean, she's pretty strong. She's one that can actually definitely lift me over her head and throw me outside the window if I needed to be thrown out. But I mean, you're right. It needs to be someone who can obviously competently do the role.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
That is overwhelmingly going to be males. I mean, it just is. Especially when you think about some of the people being rescued are big fat guys like me. So you need somebody who's really strong to be able to grab them and carry them outside because, you know, this is just realities. It's the realities we've been talking about forever when it comes to sports.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
You know what? Nobel Peace Prize to Megyn Kelly for that idea. I think you've won it. I think you've nailed it. You've solved all of our problems.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I'm going to have to now withdraw that Nobel Peace Prize I earlier offered you after your words on it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Oh, the noble prize. The noble prize. The noble prize. And I mean, look, you might say that she's not sacrificing for this, Megan, but she is delaying her Netflix series for this. This is, I mean, she's really invested in really caring about this. I don't know. Maybe she does care. I do think at the end of the day. She doesn't. The priorities seem to be her face on camera. The queen was dying.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Yeah, I cannot disagree with one part of that. And that's sad because there's no... I mean, think of the emptiness of that life, Megan. If that's your job to go around and just think about your image 24 hours a day. I mean, she doesn't even have acting anymore. She's actually picked a profession that somehow is more conceited and more self-indulgent than acting, which is...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Quite the, uh, quite the trick she's been able to pull off. Very difficult to do, but you know, she's now doing this, you know, with, with its constant focus of media attention on her in this weird idea that she's, she's got these like mythical, uh, villains that she seems to be fighting all the time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
People trying to sort her, uh, I don't know, rise for meteoric rise, uh, through, uh, throughout the world. And it's like, uh, I don't know what she's doing. It doesn't seem like she has her priorities straight in any way. And I mean, look. If she could raise a bunch of money, which she could, and donate it to these people, that would be great.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But her going down there and doing something on the ground does absolutely nothing for anybody except get cameras on her.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Can you imagine that? I would give anything to see her just pop. Even if we had to fool her. Tell her that she was going on another show and then she walks in and the interview starts. Any amount of money for that to happen. Please make it happen somehow.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I mean, this seems to be their pattern every single time, doesn't it? They've always got some secret thing. I don't know if they got this one from Fusion GPS or not. There's always some secret revelation that's coming around the corner that's going to convince people to not go for someone related to typically Donald Trump. I mean, that's usually where this ends up.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I mean, I've heard, and I heard your show several weeks ago when you were going through the stuff that's gone on in Pete Hegseth's personal life. And you talked to him, I know, at length about it. And he has had his issues there. I think they're going to try to dredge all that stuff up, and they're going to try to bring it into – try to go even further on that front.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
They're going to – I'm sure they can come up with their nameless accusers. This has been something that is a – it's worn well for the Democrats over the years. I don't think it works with the American people anymore, and part of the reason I think it doesn't work – is because of what we were just talking about when it comes to DEI and the way that this stuff plays out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
For so long, the left has done and worked really, really hard to take the idea of merit out of the process of hiring someone. And is Pete Hagstaff the best man for the job? Well, I mean, that's something that they can determine in these hearings and try to come up with it. Donald Trump thinks he is. He won the election. He should have, within certain guidelines, the rights to pick who he wants.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But like... Coming to this and trying to pick apart not his ability to do this job, but his actions taken with a particular girlfriend. If it's not a crime, and that's a totally different line to me, if that is, of course, true or there's evidence of that, that is a different line.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But if this comes down to what it usually is, which is some faceless person saying something that he did that was wrong, that they can kind of try to manipulate into making him look like the worst person on earth just to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get who he wants because they want to delay him. They want to delay his agenda.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
They want to push it down the line because they look at this timeline, I think, in a A somewhat devious but rational way, which is you've got four years as president, two years into it, you've got an election, which means those last two years may be very difficult to get anything done. That second year of the four year term is an election year.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And a lot of these wormy Republicans who are in purple districts are not going to want to do much of anything. So you've got one year to kill here. And the longer you can draw out things like Pete Hegseth and who knows who else, I'm sure many of his other nominees, they'll do the same thing too. The longer you can draw that out, the shorter the window is for him to actually get anything done.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And what they want to do is slam the brakes on all the things that he's doing to undo the terror they've unleashed on the American people over the past four years. So I think they'll go to any lengths. We saw this with Brett Kavanaugh. They will go to
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
It's it's I certainly believe they want to. The question is, of course, I mean, she because she did come up with they did settle that case. Right. So theoretically, she shouldn't come out, at least if she's standing by that agreement. We all know how that stuff works.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
So go ahead. Yep.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And she hasn't come out. I mean, look, I imagine that this is the type of thing she doesn't necessarily want to revisit publicly. You went through the details of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And of course, that's all he cares about, right? That's why he tells this harrowing story of the embers landing in his hair, which we know has to be false. Because if an ember hit his hair with the amount of product he has in it, it would set the entire shoreline on fire. It makes no sense. This can't possibly be a true story from Gavin Newsom.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Yeah. If I remember right, too, with Blasey Ford, there was a period where we didn't know who she was. And then we eventually got her name and then but didn't expect her to speak publicly. And then it kept escalating and Democrats kept calling it out. And then there was sort of a splashy announcement of her coming to to testify on this situation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
So I would not be surprised if they follow that same playbook. You know, I just don't know if it works anymore. I mean, it I don't know. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic here, but I do feel like people are starting to look at this stuff from a different lens of the believe all women standard that never made any sense.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And I heard that primarily from women who know other women and know you should not believe all women. Everyone knows somebody who's lied, whether they're a man or a woman. Women are human beings. They lie. They exaggerate. They tell stories that sound good to their husbands when the other story doesn't sound very good to their husband. I don't know if that's the case. I wasn't there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But reading the materials, looking at all of them, seeing the evidence that we do have, I have a really strong lean that that did not go down in the way that it was – that the accusation sounded at the beginning of it. And at the end of the day, who wants to be questioned about that stuff? Who wants to be questioned on every little detail?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
I would not be surprised if they're trying to get her to come out, but – I mean, the fact that she hasn't already... Especially if she's lying.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Thanks so much for having me, Megan. It was great.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But that is all Gavin Newsom cares about is his image. He's immediately gone into this defensive mode where he's trying to blame everybody else as if he had nothing to do with the idea of having water to put out fires. And as if that was a strange concept, like who could have possibly known that a fire could happen? Who could possibly know that the Santa Ana winds would come back?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Who could possibly know that we might need water if those two things combine? And that's one of the things when you talk about DeSantis, you know, he wouldn't be interested in that. I mean, I think one of the things that's interesting about DeSantis nationally is a lot of people have this idea that he is always involved in culture war issues. And he does care about those things, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
He does care about wokeness. He does care about righting those wrongs. And that's good in my view. But really the reason why he was so popular – this all happened before COVID he was really popular. Before these culture war issues were widely known because he took as a priority the idea of competent governance.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And being able to defend against what is really the main concern of a lot of people in Florida, which is, God forbid, a hurricane comes. What do we do? There's a massive natural disaster. What do we do? Are we going to be prepared for it or is going to roll out of control like what we're seeing in California? Every single part of Ron DeSantis's job has been to be prepared for those moments.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
The Florida the people of Florida who are residents there, even if they hate his politics on other issues, know he does that stuff well and are willing to put him back in office, whether they agree with him on wokeness or not. Because he's doing the type of – he's doing the types of things that are baseline requirements of any competent person. He is making sure they are prepared.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
He's making sure those trucks are lined up before the storm hits. He knows exactly what he's doing. He explains it to the people, and it gets done properly. Gavin Newsom is the reverse of that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Yeah, right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Megan, she didn't even pre-position herself. She was in Ghana. I mean, she's created a situation where the tragedy is so deep in her own city that Ghana actually looks pretty good to a lot of the residents. And that is quite the heavy lift for someone in America to pull off. It's shocking. I mean, we see what happens when people do prepare.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
We've seen private individuals who have been able to protect their property. It's a very difficult thing to do on a larger basis, of course, but you can do it. This is something that was known. And that's the biggest issue here is that every explanation for what has occurred points to these politicians, every single one of them with the exception of climate change.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
And the reason why they're all going down this road of climate change as the excuse for what has occurred is because it's the only thing that doesn't point to them. It's the only thing that instead points to some mom in Ohio in her minivan trucking her kids around to soccer practice. It's her fault. It's not my fault. It's their fault.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
they can point to anyone else they are in a situation where the only escape route is to blame a zero point nine degree celsius temperature rise over a century that's all they have and so that's the direction they're going because It's not one of these situations where you can blame Donald Trump. Sure, they might say that in passing, and that's usually their catch-all for everything.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
But this is a situation where Democrats have run the state. Democrats have run the city forever. They've had occasional Republicans who have been in office who are very, very moderate and honestly big-time environmentalists anyway who have been over there. This has been in control by these hardcore environmentalists this entire time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
They've implemented all of these policies and this is the result of it. And the only person to blame is themselves. So they got to blame, you know, invisible gases.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
It's insane. I mean, here's a guy who has been who is governed in a way that is incredibly invasive into the people's lives of everyday Californians. He's tried to control every aspect of people's businesses. He's tried to shut them down. Not, of course, the French laundry where he was out eating, but he's tried to shut down businesses.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
He's tried to require them to take medications they may or may not want. He's tried to do literally everything to control their life on a daily basis, but he has no control. whatsoever, no impact, no influence whatsoever over all of these towns and whether they have any water available in their fire hydrants, it's really insulting to our intelligence, is it not?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
Everybody knows how Gavin Newsom has governed. All he cares about is involving himself in your day-to-day life when he's not, A, thinking about his political future or, B, hooking up with one of his best friend's wives.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
When he's doing those sorts of things, maybe he's a little distracted, but he has absolutely all sorts of authority over these issues and at the very least could have been there standing on the soapbox from the top of the mountain saying, hey, we don't have this water situation ready to go for when there's a big fire. We know the fire's coming. We need to do something immediately.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
You could have heard that from another person who doesn't happen to be the governor of California named Donald Trump, who has said it on 100 different podcasts talking about how this needed to happen. And over and over again, I mean, conservatives have been talking about this forever. Land management, water management, you know, not to mention all the DEI craziness that I'm sure we'll get into.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Tries to Salvage Political Career, and Woke Policies Backfire, with Stu Burguiere and Ilya Shapiro | Ep. 981
All of this has been stuff that conservatives have been pointing out forever, and he's opposed it largely on that basis and has gone the opposite direction and made it much worse.