Steven Bartlett

Keep working. To some people, this does, it sounds somewhat toxic, right? It sounds like, oh, God, but that's not what life's about. This is like capitalism. This is people just wanting to make loads of money.

Not for you. I think the important thing, which I see some companies doing well, is just to be honest about that when you're onboarding people and don't shy away from the fact. Yes, exactly.

Not for you. I think the important thing, which I see some companies doing well, is just to be honest about that when you're onboarding people and don't shy away from the fact. Yes, exactly.

Which is a trade-off that was clearly worth making. You stepped back as CEO after four years when you were at LinkedIn, right? Yes. Why did you do that?

Which is a trade-off that was clearly worth making. You stepped back as CEO after four years when you were at LinkedIn, right? Yes. Why did you do that?

So you stay close, but you... Again, this is another point of self-awareness, which a lot of founders don't have. But the great founders that I've met and interviewed, whether it's, I don't know, Brian Chesky, or whether it was some founders from the UK, like Bennett Jim Shark and Julian from Huel. One of the things that really defined them was they did a...

So you stay close, but you... Again, this is another point of self-awareness, which a lot of founders don't have. But the great founders that I've met and interviewed, whether it's, I don't know, Brian Chesky, or whether it was some founders from the UK, like Bennett Jim Shark and Julian from Huel. One of the things that really defined them was they did a...

low ego move to move out of that CEO role, which is typically associated with like the glitz and the glam because they knew that their skill set was in branding or marketing or something else, or just vision for the future of the company. A lot of CEOs don't do that because the CEO title comes with a certain esteem.

low ego move to move out of that CEO role, which is typically associated with like the glitz and the glam because they knew that their skill set was in branding or marketing or something else, or just vision for the future of the company. A lot of CEOs don't do that because the CEO title comes with a certain esteem.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big difference. Yes. LinkedIn went public in 2011 with a $4.3 billion valuation, and then Microsoft later paid $26 billion to buy LinkedIn. At the time, it was reported you owned about 11% of the company, which made you a multi-billionaire. How does life change when one becomes a multi-billionaire?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big difference. Yes. LinkedIn went public in 2011 with a $4.3 billion valuation, and then Microsoft later paid $26 billion to buy LinkedIn. At the time, it was reported you owned about 11% of the company, which made you a multi-billionaire. How does life change when one becomes a multi-billionaire?

associated with the left side of politics. Your parents were very left-leaning, to say the least.

associated with the left side of politics. Your parents were very left-leaning, to say the least.

Okay, so that's in your DNA. Yes. The thing about being on the left is it's typically the left that have an opinion of billionaires that they're evil.

Okay, so that's in your DNA. Yes. The thing about being on the left is it's typically the left that have an opinion of billionaires that they're evil.

I mean, you're one of the few people that's still a billionaire and on the left, it seems.

I mean, you're one of the few people that's still a billionaire and on the left, it seems.

In the valley, especially in this election cycle. It's the public-facing people that we see on the podcasts and stuff.

In the valley, especially in this election cycle. It's the public-facing people that we see on the podcasts and stuff.

You must spend time at night thinking about what that might be. Because if I would.