Steven Bartlett
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So we've never had a president running businesses while in office.
And so decisions are being made not based on what's good for Americans, but what's good for his company.
For example, why did the Saudi government invest $2 billion in Jared Kushner's fund?
It wasn't because they just liked Jared Kushner.
It was because Kushner is Trump's son-in-law.
And so my biggest concern is the deterioration of American democracy.
I mean, it's already happening.
Most people think democracies end with tanks in the street or somebody shooting up the presidential palace.
But actually, in the modern world, they mostly end because someone who is legitimately elected begins to take apart the system.
Trump, he has never cared much one way or the other for American democracy.
He admires foreign leaders who have no constraints.
And I have a goal that is to remind people of why democracy is important and to pay attention to the ways in which it's declining so that we can fight back.
So we're just at the beginning of what could be quite a big change.
So first of all,
I started out as somebody who was fascinated by the Soviet Union.
I went there when it still existed as a student.
I was lucky enough to watch it fall apart.
I was a journalist based in Warsaw at the time the Warsaw Pact came to an end.
Then I spent some years writing history books, trying to explain how control was maintained over such a large space by so few people.
But all that time, I thought that what I was doing was writing stories about the distant past.