Steve Rinella
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2213 - Diane K. Boyd
It gets really deep in the genetics. The codes? The K locus and codes has something to do with them having canine distemper virus.
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#2213 - Diane K. Boyd
It's showing me the werewolf in the lobby. It's showing me all the pictures I have of Carl and Marshall.
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#2213 - Diane K. Boyd
What was that, Jamie? It was those mountain lions crying. Oh, wow.
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#2213 - Diane K. Boyd
Wow. I found out that it was on the Adam Green Tree episode, 2059. You see the white triangle?
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#2213 - Diane K. Boyd
So I was trying to read on what was going on. So some people think that they might not be being raised, that it's some sort of play. But I think this is taken from a trash pit.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Oh, yeah. He comes on the show every year. He was supposed to be the last guest this year, but he got pneumonia.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, that place is crazy. You know, it's only six acres. Is that right? Yeah. Six acres. Thousands and thousands of bones. And what he thinks is it's like some sort of a natural disaster took place and probably asteroid impact. There's a thick layer of carbon. Thick layer of carbon. And in the permafrost is all these bodies. And they think that it's probably just washed bodies.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
all these bodies into a ditch. And that's why there's so many of them there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, perfect spot. They found animals that weren't even supposed to be in Alaska there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yes, exactly. But it's all his property, so no one can go there. So they've found them in the East River now because it turns out that, which museum was it, Jamie? Oh, yeah. They dumped some of the bones in the East River. So these people have actually gone down there and found them in the East River now.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They found a bunch of bison bones and all kinds of shit in the East River, which is really crazy.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Because exactly where they said that they dumped these things off, they found them now. It's really wild.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I would like to do that. That would be a great episode for your show because this whole thing is crazy. Yeah. And they may or may not have found human remains there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, understandably so. Yeah, I mean, wow. Oh, here's something that he found. Look at this. This had been sawed.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Mm-hmm. The piece that's missing that's cut right there, that was a piece that they made to date it. Oh, I got it. But the top part had been sawed.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. Yeah, but that's from John. That's from the Boneyard. I'm going to introduce you to him. He's coming back in February. You really need to get to know him. He's a fascinating cat.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
All right, Steve. So your show, Hunting History, History Channel, is it available now? Is it on now? January 28th. January 28th. Okay. 10 p.m. Eastern. There it is. Hunting History. Steve Rinella. There it is. All right.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Isn't that crazy? It's kind of crazy. That was 12 years ago.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. That's not true. No, this was your rank in the military. Oh, you didn't deploy for war. You didn't. Why are you saying you deployed at war? The weapons you used in war? No, no, no. You weren't in war. Like, oh, you were a head coach? No, you weren't a head coach. You were the water boy. Yeah. The fuck are you talking about? I thought some of that was weird. Well, he's just a liar.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But that's what a lot of these people are. They're just actors who are ugly. And they're like, well, I can't really make it in show business. I want a lot of attention. I want to be a special person. So I'll do politics. I'm good at bullshitting. And most people, you know, they're trusting. They're like, oh, he's saying the right things. If you say the right things, you know, abracadabra.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And the next thing you know, you're a fucking governor.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
No, no, I'm not running for nothing. I don't want to do nothing. I don't want to do a goddamn thing.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Fuck that. Why would I do that? I have the best job in the world. I get to talk shit with zero responsibilities. If I get something wrong or listen, I'm a moron. Why are you listening to me in the first place? No, I have no desire in any way, shape, or form to have anything to do with anything involving politics. I don't want to be in control of it. I don't even like having employees.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Jamie's awesome. But, I mean, I don't like having employees.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But he's just great. He's just great. He's easy. That's why there's so few of us here. I have a friend who has a podcast, a big podcast, and he has like fucking 13 people working for him, people running around with clipboards. I'm like, what do these people do? Why do you have so many people working for you? Like, this is freaky.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
He's always got, like, inter-office conflicts and people getting fired because people are fighting with each other and people fighting over, like, promotions and trying to get to, like, backstabbing each other and, like, ugh.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I would hate it. I don't want to be a mayor. I don't want to be nothing. I don't want to be nothing. But I did get some sort of – Not even a mayor?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I don't want to be a city councilman. I don't want to be a – I don't want to be shit. I don't like the whole thing about it. It's just – it's not a good gig. It's just a – it's a creepy business. It's a very creepy and prostitutional business. It's just – I don't like it.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
People, I think that's like these sort of fictional depictions of the future that, you know, everybody wants this future where, you know, you're just holding hands and walking off into the sunset, the golden years. It's all bullshit. If you're alive, you're going to want to do the same things you're doing right now.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They make some good bets. Yeah. They used to be making $28,000 a year. Now all of a sudden they're worth $12 million. Now they're worth $20 million, and they're hanging out with a bunch of other people that are going on yachts on vacations. They're like, I want to go on a yacht. Next thing you know, I want a Mercedes. They get you. They slowly get you. You know Evan Haver.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You're not going to have some point in your life where you're going to want to do nothing and be happy that you don't have to do anything. You're going to get depressed.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Evan Haver had a great saying. I've been repeating it a lot, too much lately for people to listen to this podcast, but he said, psychology is more contagious than the flu. I was like, ooh, that's so true.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're around people that are just trying to have a good time, that are nice people, genuinely you lean in that direction.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You know, like I try to spread that. I want everybody to have fun. Like, let's have a good time. If you're around a bunch of creeps that are just trying to climb the ladder and claw their way into power, how do you maintain your sovereignty?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, good luck. Good luck battling it out with 460 other creeps who show up in D.C. and lie. Yuck. Although I did get a bizarre... I did enjoy affecting the election. Oh, dude, imagine. I can imagine. I did enjoy because I didn't want to. I did not want to get involved in any way, shape, or form. But it got so weird.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I was like, I don't want to have nothing. And I don't want to have anything to do with it in the future. I don't. I didn't want to. I just felt sucked into it. I'm like, we can't do this again. We can't do it with these same people that fucked us for four years. And then they're going to like, we're going to do it differently now. Like what's going on? Did you see what's going on?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Obviously, you've seen what's going on in California. But the governor gave this creepy fucking speech where he was talking about speculators coming in and talking about what to do with the land of all these homes that have been burnt down. While it's still only 6% contained. And he did this little dance like, I've been talking with the governor of Hawaii about what to do. We've got some ideas.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
We're going to have some meetings. Really? Oh, show it to him, Jamie. It's so creepy because it's happening while these people are... Their houses have been burned, all their childhood memorabilia, all the stuff for their kids, the photos, the fucking everything they have. Everything they have is gone. All heirlooms, you know, their mother's wedding ring, that kind of shit.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Everything's burnt to the ground. And this guy's like standing in front of all this stuff. He's got a smile on his face and he's talking about land use. The development plans.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's essential for life. You need puzzle. You need at least some sort of a very involving hobby. You need something. I mean you can retire from – if you have a lot of money, you could retire from your financial pursuits. But you need something that you enjoy doing. Human beings need tasks. If you don't have something, you get very dull and that's how people get Alzheimer's.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
With a big smile on his face. Look at the little wiggle he does with his shoulders. Speculator. Watch this. Look at this. Look at this little wiggle. It's excited about the possibilities of speculators coming in. And he's saying, move forward. We're going to move forward on that. These people lost their homes.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
A lot of those people don't even have fire insurance because the fire insurance pulled out of California. I think like 69% of fire insurance pulled out of California because they're like, this is too crazy. You guys aren't doing jack shit to manage this. You're not clearing the brush. The amount of money they could have saved by just clearing brush...
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Filling the reservoir, that 11 million gallon reservoir was completely empty during the time of full fire season. Why didn't you fix that? It's all insanely mismanaged. And then this guy is on television talking about, ooh, really excited about that. Doing a dance in front of the burned down home that people used to sleep in, where their children would sleep in. This is so disgusting.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
He's like, okay. Yeah, got it, got it. Well, I mean, the senator can't do much about it.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
A lot of my buddies used to do that in Massachusetts.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, you can have – there's a balance, right, in terms of like being environmentally conscious but also recognizing the needs of the human population. And I think that's been distorted in California significantly.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They just fucking get dementia. They just like sit around the house and their brain atrophies and – And then they just die.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
That's your world. Yeah, there's a balance, a balance to be held for sure. You know, I'm not real thrilled with this idea of like continuing to drill for oil in the Gulf and drill for oil everywhere and knowing that occasionally these things blow up and you have massive pollution and... But also, I don't think we should be dependent on Saudi Arabia for all our oil.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Lake Austin has a similar situation. So Lake Austin used to be this, it's still very good for bass fishing. They have big bass on Lake Austin. And the people that live on the lake, the highfalutin folks, didn't like all the weeds. So they brought in carp. And the carp ate everything. So now the place looks like the bottom of a swimming pool. It's like all the vegetation is fucked.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And so the bass don't have a lot of places to go. Like, you know, where, where I live, people go to the docks, like they, they cast to the docks, you know, and they, they fish near people's docks because that's like the only cover that these fish have. And so there's talk of like submerging like trees or, you know, dropping, creating structures and then there's people that are opposed to that.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Cause like, You have your wakeboarders and all the people that like recreation on the water. They don't want anything that could possibly fuck up their boat. But they already fucked it up by bringing in the carp. And you can't get the carp out. How are you going to kill the carp?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think he's getting propped up. I think there's other people that are like pushing him towards the, get out there. Come on. I think Jill's got her hands on his lower back. Just giving a push. Get out there. Come on. You can win again. I think I could have beaten Trump. Yeah, but it's that thing, too, where people, oh, one day you'll get to a certain age and you'll, like, you know.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They didn't do what they did to Lake Austin. They didn't do it to Lady Bird Lake. So if you go to Lady Bird Lake, it's just hopping with bass.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, there's seaweed and all kinds of, not seaweed, but lily pads and all kinds of shit over there that you don't have on Lake Austin. They didn't bring in the carp.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, we were talking the other day about eating freshwater fish and how much toxic chemicals are in freshwater fish. It's fucking bananas.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I'm 57, and I used to think, oh, when I'm 57, I'll be done. If I have some money, I'm just going to relax.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
So they were trying to gauge his memory based on the amount of heavy metal in his body?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
When did it start happening? Like, when did freshwater fish become toxic? That would be something I'd be interested in.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, I'll do this forever. Really? It's so easy to do. Yeah, as long as I'm actually interested in talking to the people. How hard is that? Actually interested. Yeah, but that's the only reason why I do it anyway. Like, I only talk to people I want to talk to. So no one ever tells me, you know, have this person on your show. There's literally zero input from anyone else.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I got my blood work done. You know, I get my blood work done pretty regularly. And I went once a few years back, quite a few years back, 15 years ago at least. And my doctor said, you have a lot of arsenic in your blood. And I go, like, someone's poisoning me? He's like, no. Do you eat a lot of fish?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And I said, I eat a lot of sardines. He goes, how much? I go, four or five cans a night. And he was like, what? He's like, what the fuck are you doing? I go, what are you doing? Well, I love sardines. And if I come home from the comedy club and I'm hungry, it's easy to have what I thought was healthy food. It's just sardines and olive oil. What could be bad about that? And so he said...
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
take a few months off and then come back and let's do this again. And I took a few months off and I came back, no arsenic. I was like, oh man. He goes, it's not enough to be concerned, but you're getting arsenic in your blood from these sardines.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
So everybody I talk to, I look at, I go, do I want to talk to that guy? That might be cool. That'd be interesting. I want to find out what makes him tick. I want to find out why she writes those books like that. I want to find out, you know, what keeps him going. That's like... The whole reason why I do it is because I enjoy it.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, there's no cases of CWD getting into humans yet, right?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
No. But that's the big fear. Like you and I are on a text chain with Ted Nugent and he's always like.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You know, Ted is always trying to dismiss the concerns of CWD. He doesn't believe in it. He thinks it's overhyped.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
So if it jumps to people, and it has jumped to certain rodent species, isn't that correct?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
There hasn't been a case of it jumping to like a mole or something like that?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's just a certain percentage of people get dementia.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I don't know. Why would I do that, too? I have my own club now. I'm 50 years old, man.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think you just stay healthy. Stay healthy and do what you enjoy doing. I think live in the moment. I think this idea of planning for the future is silly. I really do. I think you should have goals. Like if you enjoy doing things and you're like, I would like to get to this point. I would like to do this. And it's something to strive towards. That's good.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Right. Even if it doesn't jump currently, would you take that risk?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But this idea that like, you know, one day you're just going to like stop doing stuff. Like why?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Are you alive? Are you enjoying doing it? Yeah. Let's shut the fuck up. Like you could be so much worse off. There's so many things to dwell on other than whether or not I want to stop doing something that I enjoy. Why would I ever even think about that?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Dude, it's a tough one. Yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one. It can jump. It hasn't.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But when you look at the history of these types of diseases, especially prion diseases like mad cow, prion disease, jumped people.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I used to say prion, but then I heard scientists say prion, and it wouldn't sound smart.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. And it gets on the grass. It gets on the vegetation.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But I could conceive a time where I don't want to do it anymore. I don't want to be a public person anymore. The public aspect of it is the weirdest part. The people constantly wanting your time and everybody thinking that if I can connect with this guy that I can make a lot of money. I can set up a business with him. I can do this with him. I can do that with him. He can introduce me to this.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
There's no way to eradicate it, right? There's no way to identify the deer that haven't exhibited symptoms, and they're spreading it.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Is it ultimately resilient? Cause like mad cow disease has a, there's an incubation period, right? This is the concern. Like I remember.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I can – you know, work with him. I could, there's a lot of that. A lot of that. That's exhausting. A lot of these like opportunists and weirdos, you know, those, those are exhausting.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
When Doug talks about, they do a lot of testing in Wisconsin.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's like very high. And this is fairly recent. Like a decade ago, they started appearing. Right.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Right, but I'm saying, like, the thing about moose is there's lower numbers and they don't exist in, like, packs.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, someone told me they went hunting and they got a moose and it was just covered in ticks.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Alberta, Saskatchewan, Colorado, and Texas has moose? What? Texas has moose?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
That was the whole reason why I took the Spotify deal. I was like, good, they're going to give me a lot of money, and it'll only be on Spotify, so I'll be about 10% less famous. Good. Let me slide off into obscurity. Because, I mean, as long as I'm making money, I was like, I just enjoy doing it. I don't care how many people. Like, the people that like it will still listen.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
He's— That's not— Relatively small areas in the panhandle in West Texas.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Have you ever heard the conspiracy theory about Lyme disease?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Seems like there's some legitimate concern there that it might have been a bioweapon that got out of hand.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, it was widely dismissed by people that are a little bit more skeptical about conspiracies. But R.F.J. Jr., he believes it. Yeah. Yeah.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
it's um it's very scary this idea of these fucking eggheads experimenting with diseases and making them more infectious for whatever reason without also developing a cure yeah it is very strange I guess the one justification you'd have is you'd be like well by tinkering with it we'll better understand it and if it ever happens naturally we'd be able to combat it yeah how'd that work out
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
So maybe I'll have less casual fans. Like, who cares? Who cares? Yeah. You know, you know, there's a certain level of fame though. That's a little unmanageable and I'm in that level Yeah, it's very unmanageable.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think they just make money doing research. If you're a researcher, like if you're a carpenter, you want to build houses. They say, there's too many houses. You're like, ah, come on. We fucking need houses. I'm a carpenter. I make houses. If you're a researcher and your field of study is diseases and viruses- You want to study them.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And if the money is involved in some sort of bizarre engineering of these things, which is what they're doing, this fucking strange gain of function shit that they're doing, you do it. And if you can't do it in America, like China. OK, we'll do it over there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, but you would also make the case like, hey, how about you fuckheads come up with a cure first?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's just like there's just not a lot of trust in the medical research institutions now.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I mean, it was a real wake-up call for people. I think they're like, oh, there's not someone with real objective oversight of all this, like doing a really good job of maintaining everything. It's not a really well-maintained situation.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. It's just one of those things where anything involving money, whenever there's an enormous amount of money involved and then there's a centralized control of information, like where there's people that have a distribution of information and then There's also the problem of exonerating people from any responsibility, which is what happened in the 1990s or was it the 80s?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Whenever they gave them because the vaccine manufacturers were saying, listen, we can't manufacture vaccines because too many people are getting injured by them. And we're going to have so much liability that we're not going to be able to manufacture vaccines anymore unless you give us immunity to prosecute it. And so they gave it to them. And then all of a sudden you're getting 72 vaccines.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You're giving children hepatitis B. Hepatitis B for babies, which is just fucking crazy. A sexually transmitted disease for babies. Like, what are you doing? Like, why are you doing that? Well, you're doing it because you can and because the more vaccines you give kids, the more money you make and you're not responsible. You don't have to pay off anything.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You don't get sued, which is just you can't do that with these fucking corporations. They're just too evil. They are sociopaths. They act like sociopaths. They lie about studies. They lie about side effects. They minimize their responsibility and they profit immensely and they continue to do so as long as they're not punished. And that's that's the business that they're in.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Remedies offered by Western medicine for diseases caused by science.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
No one's arguing that medicine isn't amazing. I mean, medicine's amazing. But the problem with medicine is you got your scientists and your medical researchers, and then you got your money people, right? And the money people, they don't even know how to make any of this medicine. They just know to sell it. And how do I sell it?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I sell it by, you know, like that's like remdesivir, whether we're selling remdesivir during the COVID crisis. Remdesivir is fucking horrible.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I don't know that one. Kidney failure. They stopped prescribing.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Fauci was selling it to everybody. You need to take remdesivir. And everybody was dying. That's your impersonation? It's fucking horrible kidney failure. Yeah, that fucking creep. Read that book, The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr. It's a crazy book.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
that book will change your opinion on a lot of shit. That's a crazy book. And if it's not true, he would be sued.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, it's all documented. I mean, it's all backed up by rock solid information. It's all very well documented. What actually happened during the AIDS crisis, what actually happened during the COVID crisis. It's all legitimate. It's all easy to research. It's just scary that these people that you don't want to have to think about that stuff all the time. You want to just live your life and trust.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Oh, this is the medical institution. They're here to help us. They're here to make us feel better. But no, a lot of them are just there to make money.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Me too, until four years ago. A lot changed, dude. I'm fucking super skeptical now.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I'm also super skeptical of the herd mindset that people fall into. Whenever there's some sort of a pandemic, when there's a high level of anxiety, a lot of people fall into this herd mindset. And that scares the shit out of me, too. Because there's just a lot of people that are cowards. And they're afraid of public humiliation, public, you know... Public criticism.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They're afraid of getting ostracized from the community if they don't follow suit like everybody else is doing. And so then they start to try to enforce it on everybody else. It's like the people that were yelling at everybody else. Where's your mask? Put your mask on. Like, you know, there's people. I went to a restaurant the other night. The fucking guy served me had a mask on.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Like, I would fire this guy. I would not like you can't. This is nonsense. You can't be wearing a fucking mask. This is crazy.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, it's also you're dealing with people that have severe anxiety if they think that that mask is actually going to protect them. It doesn't do jack shit.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Especially if you're wearing the bandana. The bandana is just ridiculous.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Real scared still to this day. I mean, someone sent me a video of this guy who wears a mask every day and he's been pushing for masking. He's like severely mentally ill.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Overrun with anxiety. Just like advocating for masking. We shall be masking and double masking. Yeah.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I got spotted a lot when I had a mask on. With your mask on? Yeah, with a mask on. Yeah. Yeah.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They want me to keep them in my basement. Yeah. I get, I get like letters. People want me to come to their house. I get it. You know, especially if you don't know anyone famous. And the thing about podcasts too, is like, you're so intimately connected to that person. Cause you hear that person talk all the time.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, I'm short and wide. You know, I have an odd shape. You know, I think people, you know, look at that. That burly little man. That little fucking chimpanzee looking dude. Yeah. Bald head. Yeah. All muscly. I wear a baseball hat, sunglasses, mask, and they're like, is that Joe Rogan? Even without seeing my tattoos, I just was getting busted.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I don't know. I was just walking down the street. I was getting called out. With sunglasses on and a baseball hat.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, that's too late. That fucking chicken is full on the coop. Yeah, that's over.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think you should stop masking. I think it should be illegal. I think it's ridiculous. In New York, they made it so that if you go into a store, you have to pull your mask down so that the facial recognition will work. Really? Really. Yeah, because they were getting so many people getting robbed. So many stores are getting robbed and you could never catch the guys.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think it was the mayor was like proposing that. But they should just make it illegal to wear a fucking mask. You're a psychopath. Like it doesn't work. It doesn't work and it's not protecting you. So what are we doing? You're just covering your face. Well, you can't cover your face because we live in polite society.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
We want to make sure that people can't commit crimes wearing a fucking bank robber mask. This is nuts.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's the guy's got weird knees. I recognize those knees anywhere. No, I mean, skirts is just a choice. I mean, if you wear shorts, why can't you wear skirts?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I do four of these a week. So it's like, they're hearing me, you know, it's fucking 12 hours a week.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
If a guy wants to wear a dress, what do I give a shit? If a woman wants to wear a business suit, am I mad at Ellen for wearing a business suit? Am I going to be pissed off at Hannah Gaspi for dressing up like a man? Like, come on. You should be able to wear whatever you want to wear. I don't care about that. But I care about public safety.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Like, you shouldn't be able to cover your face where you can't be identified if you commit a crime. We've all agreed to that. Like, that's just ridiculous. It used to be a thing that you couldn't do. You couldn't walk into a store with a bank robber mask on. It used to be if you walked into a bank with a mask on, people would freak out.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And now, during the pandemic, they probably start shooting at you.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You walk into a bank without a mask, people get angry. Put your mask on. It's like we lost our mind. But the thing is they should have realized it very early on that there's no science to it. And there was a doctor who pointed this out very early on in the pandemic, and we highlighted it, and people were very upset at us. This doctor was talking.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
He was a virologist, and he was saying, do you know how ridiculous this is? Let me show you. And he used a vape. So he took a big hit of a vape, he put a mask on, and he blew vape smoke through. And he's like, the particles in vape are so much larger than these virus particles. If you're breathing through this mask, if this mask allows you to take in air, you're taking the virus.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
If it allows you to blow out air, you're blowing out the virus. Shut the fuck up. This is just stupid. This is just pretending. And in the beginning, I was like, okay, everybody just wants you to be a good person. You wear the mask. But it's so weird because during the crisis, we did UFC fights. In the UFC fights, the corner men used to have to wear masks.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
So, like, I'll see, like, highlights from, like, 2021, and you see, like, the corner with the mask. Like, God, I forgot about this. Yeah. It's so ridiculous. And their nose is hanging out. It's like the whole thing. Cover your nose. Oh, yeah, okay. Like, as if it matters. Like, okay, this really works. And you couldn't walk into a store like this. People go, that's not good enough.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
This is not good enough. Oh, I forgot my mask. For sure. What do you want me to do? This is the same goddamn thing. Like, what are we doing? Can I just...
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. I had a conversation with my kids. I'm like, this does not work. Just want you to know. It's not going to make you safer. They both had COVID early on. They got over it quick. So they weren't nervous about COVID at all. I go, this is just for other crazy people that are riddled with anxiety. You put this on, they feel okay. It's not going to be forever. And we're going to look back on this.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
We're all going to laugh. And that's like every now and then I'll go through like my closet and I'll put a jacket on that I haven't worn forever. And I reach into a pocket and I pull out a fucking stupid surgical mask. I'm like, Jesus Christ, I can't believe we went through this.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It was one of the things that Sanjay Gupta brought up when I did that podcast with him. Like, you sell masks on your website. I go, what? You think I sell them because they're real? I sell them because people have to wear them. So if you want to wear them, wear a little JRE mask. Like, I don't sell them because I think they're good. Like, shut the fuck up. I wish they were illegal to sell.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
How about that? Who would I make a dollar off those fucking masks?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I would pay to have them illegal. I'll give the government $10,000 a year to make masks illegal. Fuck you. You guys are fucking crazy. The whole thing was crazy. It was really weird. It was like a psychology experiment. It was a good experiment to see how many people around you are bitches who just fall in line the moment things got weird. And it's a lot.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
A lot of people just have no ability to tolerate any discomfort, any weirdness, any uncertainty, any anxiety. They just immediately, like, there's so many people out there. that have always had parents, and then bosses, and then supervisors, and they were always like following rules, always following rules, and assuming somebody has your best interest in mind. And they don't. They don't.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They're just humans. Just a bunch of humans out there, And a bunch of people that don't want to take responsibility for this fuck up that they've created and they want to lie and distort things and gaslight the whole population. And then somehow or another, these people that are doing that are allowed to spend hundreds of millions and billions of dollars on advertising and on television.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Right. The good thing about that, though, is if like someone tries to pretend you're something other than you are, if like there's a smear campaign against you, people like, no, I know that guy. Oh, like they actually know you.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
That kind of tough, man. Think about what that guy went through. I mean, he had the entire media, the entire justice system. He had the deep state, the Central Intelligence Agency. He had all these people like conspiring to take him out, literally an assassination attempt and then another one. In and out of the news in no time. Nobody cared. No grace period. No.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And so now the television networks will never criticize them. Because they get all this fuck, you know, this is like the argument about advertising for pharmaceutical drugs. You know, we're the only country other than New Zealand in the whole world that allows pharmaceutical drugs to advertise. Oh, is that right? Yeah. It's just us and New Zealand. And New Zealand's far more restrictive than us.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But the way our system is set up, all these television networks, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, they all rely on a giant percentage of their advertising budget comes from pharmaceutical drugs. And don't you just love those ads? But it's not. But here's the thing. It's not to sell more drugs. It's so that those people will never criticize those drugs.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Anal bleeding. Oh, Christ. We live in a weird world, man. It's a weird world. It's a world – whenever you involve money in things, money, profit, and the ability to lie, you get a lot of real shady things.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They really know you. Like people have listened to me like 100 hours. There's no. There's no confusion. There's no guesswork. This is who I am.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, the hope is that with AI in these large language models is that AI will be able to distribute information objectively without that. And that is the case in a lot of situations where they haven't been corrected yet. Like AI is subject to human influence, obviously. Like I'm sure you're aware of the Google Gemini situation.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
The Google Gemini situation is the best one because they said, you know – create images of Nazis and they had multicultural Nazis well, but if it has to analyze information about specific things just based on just what's actually available and
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Oftentimes it will give you a very accurate assessment that you wouldn't get from a newspaper because the newspaper would be more – they would be more interested in adhering to whatever particular ideology they subscribe to. So they would flavor things through an ideology and probably gaslight you a little bit about the other side's perspective.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
The hope is that in the future, with large language models, and especially as they become more and more sophisticated, you're going to be able to get an accurate, objective assessment of things that doesn't have any human influence. Oh, man. Dude, come on. Isn't it possible?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
The problem is they're essentially drawing from the entire internet, right? So you would have to assess where these large language models are getting their information from.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And making sure that they're... So this is a thing you could kind of game that system by rigging these large language models to accentuate information that comes from more biased sources. You could distort the information that people would get.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, until they get so sophisticated that they would be able to discern that and they would be able to base it entirely on objective analysis of statistics and facts and understand what these statistics are.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, you know, they thought about that with the printing press. I'm sure. Yeah. You know, with the early books, do you know what most of the early books were about?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Oh, really? That was a hot topic? Yeah, it was all about witches and witchcraft. Yeah, how to spot sorcery.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, it was a lot of bullshit. You would think like, oh, it's just knowledge and information. Finally, the world's going to know the truth. No, no, no, no.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's a lot of like how to spot witches. They were the most popular books.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And, um, and I remember the first podcast we did, you're like, what is this? I don't know what the hell it was. We were at the ice house. It was, the whole setup was ridiculous.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, most people were, especially podcasts. It seemed so ridiculous. Most people thought it was stupid.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, I did it because I thought it was fun. Yeah, exactly. And then, you know, after a while, I was like, oh, this is actually like a business. You know, I remember having a conversation with you about it. I was like, you should do a podcast. Like, there's a lot of money in this. Like, it's real now.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's wireless made simple. Terms apply. See their website for the details. That'd be a long charade that you've played. Yeah. Imagine. Imagine you bullshitted people for that long. That would be amazing.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. Well, you got on early. Well, you were such a good guest. I was like, this is something you have to do. You have so many opinions on things, and you're so well-read. It's a perfect place for you where there's no interruption. You can just have conversations about things. That's right up your alley.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Oh, yeah. That's the best part. The best part is the unintended education. You just have conversations with so many people. And when else would you get an expert to sit down with you for three hours and put their phone aside and just look me in the eye? Tell me how this started. Tell me how do you figure that out? What is that? How did you get involved in this? What's the beginning of this?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And then, you know, it's beneficial to everybody who listens, too. It's a weird new thing.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. But, you know, there's always that suspicion when you see someone on television that they're not really that way because there's been like Ellen, like the Ellen situation.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You know, people found out that Ellen was mean and all these people came out and said, Ellen's actually a fucking bitch. And everyone, oh, I can't believe it. And she lost everything. She fell apart, disappeared. Because people found out that this character that she was portraying in a half an hour on a television show is not really who she was.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
In Canada. Right. Who is this guy? Maybe this will do it. I don't know. Maybe you talking about it, like someone will reach out.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But then you got to wonder if someone's just fabricating it because they want information.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You know, but I hadn't already known that because I had a buddy who worked for her. And he was like, she's a fucking monster.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
My buddy, Greg, who was one of her writers was like, she's a piece of shit.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's just people that they get in those positions of power, and if their whole life they've been fucked with and picked on or they've been marginalized, and then all of a sudden they're in control, like, oh, now it's payback. There's a lot of those folks.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
People have a very delusional perspective when it comes to like surviving, living off the land.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I mean, there's no way you'd have enough ammunition. Even with a pistol, you're limited in your range. You're limited in your accuracy.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, you got to kill those guys. Those guys cause you to starve to death.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
If you're in that kind of an environment and someone's a mooch.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Did John the Baptist in the Bible? I'm not familiar. Did he definitely starve? No, people keep telling me that. Beheaded. Oh, he didn't starve.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Maybe he was emaciated before they cut his head off. Don't worry about it. Maybe they were saving him from a fate worse than death.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yes, I met him that way, and then when he did Bourdain's show.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I don't even go to Canada anymore. I won't go to Canada for UFC. I don't go over there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You can't condemn them. We would all have done the exact same thing. To condemn them is just so... It's a horrible way to look at it. It's a survival story. I mean, human beings... It's like those soccer players that got in the plane crash or... Do you know the story of the two boats that tried to make their way across the Arctic? It was like was it was the terror and another boat.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, they don't have free speech up there. They don't have a First Amendment. They have different laws. They have hate speech laws, which are very dangerous because who defines hate speech? Yeah, you know like so hate speech laws in Canada.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But the Netflix series is like a horror series. They bring in like a mystical monster and stuff. And the people resort to cannibalism. But they tried to make it across this path, and they got frozen in, in their boats. And they were waiting in the spring for the ice to thaw, and it never thawed. And they got stuck there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And then they tried to walk out and make it to the ocean, and they never made it.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They refer to gender pronouns now So like not just male female like if a guy's like if Caitlyn Jenner decides that she's a girl like Bruce Jenner decides He's a girl now. You have to call him Caitlyn if you don't that's hate speech like okay.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
No? No. What do you think it is? What do you think he found?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Maybe that's debatable Maybe you're being an asshole But no they want like all 78 fake genders like Z's are and all these fucking crazy fake ones and yeah thems and
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I don't think people understand how big the Great Lakes are.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
So in case someone was trying to... Pirates? Did they have pirates back then?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, that's how Jordan and I became friends in 2015. And then Jordan did my podcast and then Jordan became a famous guy for speaking out against this. He's going through some sort of bizarre reeducation process in Canada. And he's going to publicize it because it's so ludicrous.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, like fuck that. Imagine you go through all that work.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Gold wrecks, like shipwrecks and people like hunting for those things, that's a fascinating world. It is, man. Because if you get lucky and if you find one that's filled with like Roman coins, we're talking about billions of dollars.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They waited about a day, and then they started talking shit about him again.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
So they want to educate him on what he talks about on social media if he wants to keep his clinical license to practice as a psychotherapist.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Wow, you could see as you move how far it travels. Wow.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But he doesn't want to practice anyway. He makes far more money doing it. They've essentially made a monster. They made him way more famous than he ever would have been before.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They highlighted all of Canada's problems way more than would ever get highlighted without this persecution of this guy. It's kind of crazy, though. Yeah. So he's going through it. He's like, fuck you. I'll go through it, and I'll go through it publicly. You guys are idiots. Also, you're going to have to talk to me.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, that's how they found the Iceman, right? He was in a crevasse. Was he in a crevasse? Wasn't he? I think he fell into a glacial crevasse.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think as the glacier melted, that's how they found his body.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I'm not sure, but I think that was the story, that they feel like he fell, like he was involved in some sort of mortal combat with someone, got shot with an arrow.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
He had a tattoo. He had a tattoo on his shoulder. That was his wife. He had tattoos. Yeah, he did have tattoos. It was really wild. That was thousands of years ago, right? There was a really dumb movie about an Iceman that I think it was like the 1980s. I think it's called Iceman.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
That happens in there? So dumb. Yeah, the Iceman takes a liking to this guy's wife. Oh, that's the plot? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, knowing he's going to trounce them. Like, good luck debating that guy.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Is this the same one? Yeah, the guy gets back to life and I think he falls in love with the lady. He's hanging out with people. And then, you know, the Iceman...
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, I think he winds up falling in love with her and the scientist gets real mad. That's the plot of Encino, man. Yes, it is. Is that what this is?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Brendan Fraser. Yeah, they thaw him out and he's okay, which is fucking hilarious in and of itself.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Good fucking luck. Like, good luck. Like, who do you got on your side that's going to go up against that guy? Like, shut the fuck up. Who on your creepy, authoritarian, totalitarian regime is going to stand up and make sense? Competing against Jordan Peterson. Good fucking luck. I wouldn't want the job. Yeah, good luck. Good luck debating that guy.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You want to be in the big movies, got to tighten that up. Tighten it up. It's funny you were talking about the beaver pelts because you were the first person to explain to me like the richest man in the world at one point in time, his business was beaver pelts.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's just the whole situation up there is just so fucked. And I don't know too much about that Pierre Polivet guy, but I hope that there's some sort of meaningful change up there. I still love Canada. I used to say Canada is like America but with like 20% less douchebags. They were so friendly. They're so nice. I used to love going to Montreal. I used to love going to Vancouver.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
What's the estimated population of beavers back then before people invaded?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I loved it up there. But the woke shit hit there so hard because they don't have freedom of speech. They don't have a First Amendment. So when they start clamping down on your ability to express yourself, like there's really disastrous implications.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
When the market collapsed. If there's a time where you could go back in history and just observe, like they could put you in like a fucking bulletproof bubble and you're just like, no one knows you're there. You can just go watch. Where would you go?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You roll that way. Yeah. I mean, course correction doesn't always work. We think it works because it works in America. And it works in America because we have the First Amendment and we have the Second Amendment. And those two things work together.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But what about those, uh, New Mexico footprints that are 22,000 years old?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
And if we didn't have those things, we would be genuinely fucked because every government wants to eventually completely and totally control its population because it's way easier for them to make money. And that's what they like to do.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah. How do we even know that that's the case, though?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
They like to make money. They like to be in bed with the lobbyists and the military industrial complex and the pharmaceutical industrial complex. And they like to fucking impose their will on people. And if you can't express yourself and say, hey, this is fucked up. This is crazy. Why am I doing this? Like these studies show that you're not correct.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Whoever they were, the first wave. And when was that? Are you aware of the Sage Wall in Montana?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
You live there. The sage wall is a recent discovery. It was on private property. And these people, it was completely covered with woods and, you know, deadfalls and everything. And they start cleaning it out and they found this thing that looks remarkably like a constructed wall. That's the sage wall in Montana. Oh, wow. It's very strange. It's very strange. And it's a vertical wall.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It goes down 13 feet under the ground. And it's long and straight. And it's very confusing because it very much looks like placed stones that were cut and moved somehow in this particular way. And there's a lot of debate about whether or not. That's a wild looking wall. Wild looking.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
See if you can find the overhead of it, Jamie, because when you look at the overhead, you're like, Jesus Christ, this looks like people put this there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, well, there is some people that think it's man-made, and there's some people that think it's natural, but it's leaning much more towards man-made. But it's confusing.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
If you can't say all those things, which right now you can't do in Canada, it's not the same. Like their ability to express himself on the Internet has been severely limited. It's real weird, man. It's real weird. And it's happening right. You can walk there. If you wanted to, you could walk there. And it's fucked. It's on the same patch of land as us, and it's fucked.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think we will. Well, this gentleman right there, see that guy down there with the beard, Jamie? That's the guy. I think it's Wandering Wolf on, I think that's his name, on YouTube. Yeah, Wandering Wolf. He's been studying this for a while. Please ignore his nose ring.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
But like, this is crazy. It's crazy because they're flat and straight and they look fairly uniform and they look like they're cut into position. And there's also a bunch of these, you know, where they would grind things. There's these posts that sit out that look like they're carved outside. that are similar to a lot of stuff they find in South America, around Machu Picchu and stuff like that.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's very, very weird stuff. Because if that was made by people, who and when and how?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think natural, too, until you look at some of them. Like some of those images, go back to some of those images, Jamie. Some of those images are like, how the fuck? Like, they're so flat and straight, and look at that.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It looks very stacked. They're all cut square. What's that, Jamie? It kind of looks fake. It does look fake, but it's real.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Well, let's see some of the images from the video. Well, that one up, that one there is real. That's legit. That looks more real.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
That's not the same site. That's not the same site, and that's not a vegetation that grows around there.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Yeah, so here's a video of this guy walking around. It's really interesting stuff because there's so much evidence of humans, right, the mortal and pestle grinding holes. Sure, yeah. And shit are all there. So there was some human occupation in this area. The question is like, was this put there by humans or is this a natural feature that they found and just exploited?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It just shows you what can happen here if you don't have the right laws. Because people like that fuckhead, Justin, they pretend that- You guys are on first name basis. Yeah, that cocksucker. They pretend that they're – and I don't talk this way about anybody. No, I'm really surprised. I genuinely despise people like that.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I think it's good to say it publicly because people need to understand what these people are doing. These people are leading you on the road to legitimate communism. He's leading that country on a road to legitimate communism. It's very dangerous. And I think most Canadians are fed up with it at this point.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
What do you think those cut marks were if they weren't extracting the tongues?
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
It's just like the party, the party up there has so much control and he's been forced to resign. So he's got to step down and just hopefully they don't get some new slick talker to con them into the same old bullshit. Hopefully someone comes along that has like real meaningful change. Which is what I'm hoping is going to happen in America, too.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
That makes much more sense. And probably the mammoths weren't aware that they were even going to hunt them. They probably weren't being hunted by anything.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
I wonder what the wildlife populations were like back then, too, before humans. Like when humans did encounter, when they first encountered North American wildlife, I wonder what the populations were. Staggering. Must have been crazy. Just staggering.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
We'll never know. But if you had a time machine, that's your spot.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
If that Tim Walsh cocksucker, if that guy got into power, like if Kamala died and Tim Walsh, Tampon Tim, was our fucking president, you know how crazy this country would be? That weirdo puts tampons in the boys' room and what about our joy? Like he's a complete pathological liar. Like a complete liar. Lied about being in Tiananmen Square. Lied about being a fucking head coach of a football team.
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#2258 - Steven Rinella
Did I tell you about my friend John Reeves? Did I ever tell you about the Boneyard in Alaska?