Stephanie Slifer

So we just wanted to see what we could find out about it, see if Brenda remembered anything. about Ben bumping his head in her car.

Yes. Right.

Yes. Right.

Yes. Right.

So there was several daycare workers that were interviewed by police in the wake of Ben's death. And as part of our new report during the research phase, we were going through a lot of those police reports. And there was something that stuck out. There was a daycare worker who told police that at one point she witnessed another child, not Ben, fall off a changing table at the daycare.

So there was several daycare workers that were interviewed by police in the wake of Ben's death. And as part of our new report during the research phase, we were going through a lot of those police reports. And there was something that stuck out. There was a daycare worker who told police that at one point she witnessed another child, not Ben, fall off a changing table at the daycare.

So there was several daycare workers that were interviewed by police in the wake of Ben's death. And as part of our new report during the research phase, we were going through a lot of those police reports. And there was something that stuck out. There was a daycare worker who told police that at one point she witnessed another child, not Ben, fall off a changing table at the daycare.

And that the child's parents were lied to about the incident and told he fell over while seated on the floor. And the reason that stuck out is because, you know, in interviews with Aaron, Melissa's defense attorney has suggested that the daycare was not honest with Ben's parents about that old injury months before his death.

And that the child's parents were lied to about the incident and told he fell over while seated on the floor. And the reason that stuck out is because, you know, in interviews with Aaron, Melissa's defense attorney has suggested that the daycare was not honest with Ben's parents about that old injury months before his death.

And that the child's parents were lied to about the incident and told he fell over while seated on the floor. And the reason that stuck out is because, you know, in interviews with Aaron, Melissa's defense attorney has suggested that the daycare was not honest with Ben's parents about that old injury months before his death.

It was largely due to Ben's death there, but there was a lot of issues that were identified at that daycare throughout the investigation. Wow.

It was largely due to Ben's death there, but there was a lot of issues that were identified at that daycare throughout the investigation. Wow.

It was largely due to Ben's death there, but there was a lot of issues that were identified at that daycare throughout the investigation. Wow.

And before Melissa filed for clemency, she had what's called a habeas corpus petition pending in federal court. Now, that was filed in 2019. It sat there with no ruling for five years. due to a backlog, we think, partly due to COVID possibly. So Melissa's defense attorney decided to withdraw that petition and go after clemency instead.

And before Melissa filed for clemency, she had what's called a habeas corpus petition pending in federal court. Now, that was filed in 2019. It sat there with no ruling for five years. due to a backlog, we think, partly due to COVID possibly. So Melissa's defense attorney decided to withdraw that petition and go after clemency instead.

And before Melissa filed for clemency, she had what's called a habeas corpus petition pending in federal court. Now, that was filed in 2019. It sat there with no ruling for five years. due to a backlog, we think, partly due to COVID possibly. So Melissa's defense attorney decided to withdraw that petition and go after clemency instead.

Now, if the clemency does not work out, they'll have to go back and refile in federal court.

Now, if the clemency does not work out, they'll have to go back and refile in federal court.

Now, if the clemency does not work out, they'll have to go back and refile in federal court.

Yeah, so Melissa's father has really been consumed by this case. He's really dedicated his entire life to trying to free his daughter. And Crystal, Melissa's sister, tells us in the episode how her parents had to sell a lot of their belongings. We know that her father had a bait and tackle shop. He sold that years ago in an effort to help Melissa. So it's just a sad case all around.