Stephanie
Appearances
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
You have a map because the map has checkpoints, but it's not like your phone and just a compass and you have to figure out how to get where you're going.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
You've described that so well before. So I have these two little kiddos who are two and four, two boys, and they just are wild. And I was just wondering what the best parenting advice you've ever received was. maybe how I can bring that into my daily life to not get so overwhelmed.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Ugh, yeah, I'm in Richmond. Do you want me to hit record? Are we still doing it back?
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah. And they grab our chickens. And yeah, 100 percent. They'll just like pick up snakes, even though another reason Central Virginia is bad is there are venomous snakes here and there aren't back where I'm from in New England. So, yeah. How do I know where you're from in New England? From Brockton, Massachusetts.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I surprisingly know that. Yeah. I played Brookline High in sports a lot.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah. I'm not built to run either, which is why I tried to golf it out.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I know, but they have to want me to. I yeah, you're right. They have schools other places. I have. Yeah, I don't know what to say. I've applied.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yep. I can't. My parents moved out of Rock. They're in Wilmington now. So, but yeah, I guess I would go somewhere around north of Boston. I can't afford that. No one can afford that.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I don't. I do not. They should not have me. I will complain about the bugs and the humidity and the heat and their inability to deal with snow and all of that.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah, as an undergrad, I checked off a box that said I had to travel, so then I got into this geology program, and that's not geography. Geology is rocks. Geography is people and places.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah. I study a lot of different things, but I mainly use satellite data to understand changes in the landscape. Uh, so one of the things I, yeah, I can feel like I'm lecturing. One of the things I study is how climate change is affecting the timing of fall foliage in Maine. Cause I love Maine. Another thing I study is how deforestation in Brazil is affecting the regional climate there.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I think about that in the southwestern Amazon. I do stuff locally in central Virginia that I love. I use drones to help map historically black cemeteries that haven't been funded.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I do. It's been a tough week. So I'll tell you, yes, the lowest of bars.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah, I think it's okay to be anxious about it. I think it's kind of crazy if you're not anxious about it because it's very real. But I also have a two and a four-year-old, and that was like an act of radical hope in society that we would kind of figure this out. I think just getting outside and breathing and taking a walk and connecting with nature, that's what I do if I'm getting overwhelmed.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I think you can be overwhelmed, but you can't let it take over. And you just find faith in your community. You find what you can do. Maybe eat one less burger a week. But I'm not saying become a vegetarian or a vegan. Don't go vegan. You don't have to do that. It's not that good for the environment. If you just eat a little bit less meat, feel better about it. You can take one less flight a year.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
But honestly, just being okay with being upset, allowing yourself to feel your feelings. To me, I think we all should be feeling our feelings a little more.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
No, my kids have just been home from daycare with the flu. Oh, okay.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I took a private... That's not probably great for your arteries.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Oh, my God, the mahogany is, yeah, I mean, it's the best wood.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yes, I agree. I think it's not worth it feeling guilty because like you're not Exxon. You're not the U.S. You're not BP. You're not the people who like lied to people for centuries about what harm this would do. So it's not worth feeling guilty. But I think you can look for the good stories. A negative headline gets 10 more clicks than a positive one.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I know. I know I had agency in that decision, but I didn't think I'd have to be around them all the time.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
So people are always going to write negative headlines. There are some really cool climate resiliency things going on. Some cities are planting more trees. Trees are really great for cooling down cities. L.A., I think, painted some pavements white for a while because dark surfaces trap a lot of heat. There are small-scale changes that a lot of cities in the U.S. in particular are making.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
And yeah, I think it's going to be a mix of science and everyone realizing that These disasters that we keep having cost so much money. So it actually be cheaper if we start actually investing in climate change solutions and resilience.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I'm so sorry. This is the most depressing conversation you've probably ever had.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I just think we don't have geography in many schools. So I just am used to it's a battle I've been fighting for years.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I think everyone should just get out more and breathe more oxygen and stop looking at your phones more. Yeah, I mean, it's weird. There was an onion headline like 15 years ago that was like, humans look at glowing rectangles all day. And I was like, oh, it's only got worse.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I think everyone should just talk to more people and go outside and look at a tree and be like, wow, how long has that tree been there? Longer than I have.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
What if you take your phone and you watch your porn outside, though?
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
A lot of people don't know why we have seasons. That's the question that my students get wrong all of the time.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah. Nice job. OK, great. A lot of people think distance from the sun. And that's not we're actually closer to the sun during the winter.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
And a tree, maybe, sometimes. My bar is low. I don't know.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
I have two kids. I have a two year old and a four year old and they're pretty feral. And my my oldest is a budding mycologist. He loves mushrooms. We always go mushroom hunting, but he has a book and he does record what we and he doesn't eat it. We don't let him eat the mushrooms.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah, we have a little mushroom fan club book. He's really into mushrooms.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah. Yeah. He gets outside. We can make sure we get our kids outside. Yeah.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
No, no, no, no. He's great. He's with my two kids right now who are homesick from school.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
He's a behavior analyst, and he's the most patient man on earth. So he spends his days trying to help adults with disabilities just, like, successfully walk through the world.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Yeah, 100% all the time. Whenever we're arguing, a snack will appear out of nowhere, and I fully know what he's doing, and I will take the snack, and it doesn't matter.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
Well, he won't pop it into my mouth because it's a little much, but he'll be like, are you hungry? Do you want this thing over here? And I'll be like, yeah, I want that thing, but also.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
I Hate Richmond
We have been or we have been orienteering together, but and the snacks were more for like my self-preservation.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
I'm good. This is the highlight of my day.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
I would consider it for a little bit of time. And then, I mean, maybe I could sell it and make some money off of it. I don't know.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
Yeah, it'd be a pretty short amount of time.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
I'm a licensed psychologist and I work in a university counseling center.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
I mean, yeah, no, it's just a pause.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
I, yeah, I've got a lot of questions.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
I guess I'd be most interested to know what his biggest problems are in his life. Like what causes him distress?
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
Go ahead, Stephanie. So sometimes the problem is not that you're in distress, but it's that the other people around you are in distress. So that would be my kind of other question is, how do most people kind of respond to you?
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
Oh, no, it doesn't sound normal. That's
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
I mean, from listening to the podcast and your other interactions, his interactions with me sound a lot smoother than his interactions with you. I don't, I mean.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
The other option, too, is sometimes people, when they feel like they're being assessed, they kind of show the best of themselves, you know, and kind of want to be seen in a certain way and kind of do that, like, they kind of manage their public image more. Right, right.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
That's exactly what I was saying, yeah.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
So what does Conan bring out of you?
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
OK, well, I had a question for you, Conan, which is you said you you try to explain Jordan to people. What's your like shorthand description of him?
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
The Conan and Jordan Show — Show and Tell
Yeah, I think Conan is better than you.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, wow. Not very nice. That's not very, like, not very uncle-like.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Of course, why not?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Add some drama, add some spice.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's a huge mistake.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I'm guessing a lot's going to go wrong here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
This is honestly like one of my favorite, I think, merches that we have.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, or maybe Potbelly offered them something, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, the design. It's so sick.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Damn, that's a dangerous combination.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, it was your brain. Yeah. Your brain came up with it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I mean, which is crazy. It's absolutely insane. They never make large territorial changes.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It doesn't seem like it is. It's just kind of like the general little Levant area. And they're just bickering.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, it was the biggest of all of the post-Alexandrian empires by far.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah. Yeah, so funny enough, you brought up like name repetition. Like in the Seleucid Empire, everyone, and you've already kind of covered it, everyone was named either, and the men at least, were named Seleucus or Antiochus.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, already both.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I was like, you know what? It's history for weirdos, right? We need to add the weirdo element here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's all good.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
With all the money, too.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
With, like, the treasury.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
What a dum-dums.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
When did he leave?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, good for them.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, seriously.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, he's like, what a joke.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It was, actually. I messed up the shuffling. She's usually really good at shuffling, guys.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, the Romans are still busy, like recovering from the Second Punic War still. I mean, even though it was decades prior, still recovering. They're also like have like in the midst of subjugating Greece as well.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
They kind of were already, but I mean, they were already fighting so many different, or they had recovered from so many different fronts. It's a weird time in Roman history. I'm not like, I don't know. I don't, I think they were probably spread thin.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And they were just like, no. And they, cause they've just, oh, you know why? They just made territorial gains in North Africa and made headway into like the Balkans and Greece.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Spain. So they're, yeah, they are definitely spread thin.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, sounds about it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, this poor woman.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, she's like, yeah, four kids.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And I was just like, no.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I was going to say, it's going to be a good time, huh?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And I was like, no.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. What a psycho. It's like, yeah, no shit they liked him more than you, buddy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Sounds like a peach.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I mean, to be fair, like from here on out, Ptolemaic Egypt is like that for Rome. They're like, Rome, like step in. They're like the petulant children.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, he's like the first one to do this. And this like literally goes for another hundred. I mean, till the Cleopatra.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
You know, just slightly.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Basically, yes. I think that's really accurate.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
There we go. That was better.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It sounds like the mother lovers from the SNL skit.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's basically them, yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. So they have six kids.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I'm going to guess something along the lines of either Ptolemy or Cleopatra.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
All right, I'm going to cut it. I got a kitty.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I mean, there are literally no other choices.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, with your brother and sister.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, you guys know.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I don't know for a fact, but I'm guessing that he went to the Salute Kids.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
He didn't? Okay. I stand corrected. Never mind.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, Serini, yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, it's like to the east. Or no, sorry, it's to the west of Alexandria.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I bet they're so annoyed.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
What is it? The five of swords.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, I... I knew this was coming.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's so disgusting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, I know this one.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Right. Be like, you can't, but maybe your kids can.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, not because she's 13.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And he's just so awful.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah. And he had like manipular legions. Like those were like they're the elite fighting force of the Mediterranean.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, and we just mentioned him last episode.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
You insist on doing this and you're like, actually, I have no idea. That's amazing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, yes, I do know. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
what pot belly owns they want to protect pot belly yeah and they're also he's also ensuring because rome's a republic right so there's not one person that benefits so no one would like they wouldn't send assassins right they they just wouldn't because they also wanted to always appear as like the good guys kind of like in the united states funny enough like they always have to have a casus belly like a cause for war for them to actually go to war yeah they always have they can never be the aggressors they have to be like in defense of someone
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, that's cute.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Right. Smart dad.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Very reasonable.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's better than I thought.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's a different Josephus.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, yeah. No, same Josephus.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I don't think that relates to the episode at all, does it?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah. Speaking of which, while we're here, let's get started. Stephanie, it is your week this week. I hope you have something prepared. I know for a fact you do. But Stephanie, this one was a fan favorite, like a fan favorite of...
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
But he was charismatic somehow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Like, I'm bored of you.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, and they didn't have excess sugar and trans fats like they do today.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, yeah. I didn't know this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I see. Okay. That makes sense.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
What do they say?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Really? Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
suggestion we had so many people suggesting this episode and it's in the ancient history realm which most most of the time is usually like geared towards me but this time it's about a subject that you know far more about than i do yes i'm really excited to hear you tell it well i hope i know more than you do i'm always so nervous when i do an ancient history episode because you don't want to disappoint me yeah and it's so hard these are such harder ones
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
No, we're not a fan of you. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
How many layers? You'd have to go so many layers.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, for the power.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
No, poor woman. I know.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
She's like, yay, I'm done.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And they can be pharaohs. Well, I guess women can be pharaohs too, but like.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I knew you were going to bring it. You're just going to go into this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I know. I love how passionate you get. It's so adorable.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. This guy is unbelievable.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's like, dude, no wonder no one likes you, homie.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
What do you expect?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. What a horrible human.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
What a... No words.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's going to get worse.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
You don't want me to be like that meme of be like, wait a minute, this isn't my world. Disappointed!
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
This guy is such just a piece of human garbage. Yeah. There's no redeeming qualities about this guy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, they did not appreciate this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah. Oh, that sucks.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I mean, he stands against like pretty much every single Roman virtue at this time. Like, cause there weren't, this is before the civil Roman civil wars. So like, you know, that wasn't really a thing. There was like a sense of like what it meant to be like a Roman, you know, and it was very much so like, You fight for Rome.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's starting to change with the inflow of wealth during this century. But yeah, generally speaking, you're correct.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah. When they thought about foreign rulers and their corrupting force, they thought of people like him. Exactly. Exactly.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, exactly. Even in their time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Slash Cleopatra II's grand-aught. Grand... whatever.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's funny. I'm so confused.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
So Ptolemy Chickpea.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Just Chickpea. Okay, I'm sorry.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, I hate him. I hate him so much. So he's currently married to his sister and his niece.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And has a son with both of them now.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Nothing could ever go wrong here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. That's, like, perfect.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
No, just to clarify. So it's yeah. So. So you do have Cleopatra the third, I guess. So the Cleopatra the third, that's the daughter Cleopatra the second and their enemies now.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Okay, so she's also kind of a piece of garbage.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
They're well suited for each other.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And they always go to Cyprus.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Weirdos, welcome back to another episode of History for Weirdos.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I'm pretty sure that's it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I hope I'm just not giving blatant disinformation. We'll see.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I love that. She's just piling them on. Yeah. And this is still Cleopatra II, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Wow, that's interesting. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Wow, do you know why that is?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, snap. That's a big deal.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Wow. So he was ugly on the inside and out.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Damn. So they were really manipulative. They were very smart.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And that like mobilizing like a populist force almost just for their own political ends, even though they don't really give a shit about them.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Not in Alexandria?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And this was his own son?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Especially being at war on and off for decades, right? Even as a little girl, she was at war with her uncle. And now it's like, she's 55, still at war with her brother and daughter. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's right, weirdos. We're talking about pot belly.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, I know where this is going.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I wonder, it must be like an African gray or something, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, it had to have been African gray.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Like, psychotic.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Like absolutely just, this guy's like unforgivable.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's a pretty smart political move, honestly.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Right, like this guy did this to his own child. I mean, anyone with just any sort of conscience is like, oh, this guy is just pure evil. Yeah. Like he's not fit to rule.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I bet they're so tired.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. It's a Demetrius. Someone different.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. This guy, this guy, he's like the he's like a precursor to the CIA.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Dude, this guy is unbelievable.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Un-freaking-believable.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Things that go up are going down. Things that are going down should be going up.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I think whatever like app you use to search, you can just probably search it and it'll pop up.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, I have no idea. Same. I stopped doing the episode numbers and the introductions like...
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
You're like, sorry, I killed our child together and I'm married to one of your other children. But hey. Oh, and I also killed one of your your kids with your first husband slash my brother slash your brother. He has killed two of her sons now and married a daughter.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah. The audacity, man.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
This guy's just messing up everywhere he goes.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, that sounds about right.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, interesting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Probably like crops even maybe.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Kind of putting a finger under the scale.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's some sweeping reforms right there.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's a great spot.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Got it. Okay. Even though they used to be spouses.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, clearly. Better late than never, I suppose.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That is unfortunate.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I wonder also if it was like he's trying to be a little bit like Alexander too. Because he said to the strongest, according to almost like legend at this point.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Gotcha. Cleopatra II lives a really long life. She's really old at this point.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Wow, that summarizes it really well.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Absolutely. I was just about to say that. It's like, it only gets worse for, like, Egypt.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And it just gets more pathetic with their desperate, like, basically pleas for help for Rome. All the time. And Rome does acquiesce and they will do things. And it's just like, it's almost as if, like, your annoying little brother is just, like, constantly just nagging you. And you're like, fine, okay, here. Here's a little bit just, like, of my attention or whatever.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
The first one was named Ptolemy I. And that's why there are the Ptolemies. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
You're ours now.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Egypt is ours. And Rome would hold on to Egypt for... Over 600 years.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Like 650 years, roughly.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Wow. That was absolutely incredible.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
You... Talk about convoluted, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. I... You did that in such a beautiful way, though, and keeping it straight. I was actually I was following along like the pretty much the entire time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
So I think you did an amazing job.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Thank you for that episode.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I think you did a fantastic job. So I mean, I couldn't have done a better job myself.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
But that was also just an incredible story.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
His own. I mean, I. A 12 year old. i mean just absolute level of despicability i don't think it cannot be measured that's why he's so infamous yeah infamous so infamous he might be one of the worst like like most one of the worst rulers who was actually competent yeah yeah not a bad ruler because he's dumb or naive or yeah or even lazy necessarily um
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I'm going to guess Ptolemy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, my God. Don't get us started on that rabbit hole. Well, anyways, incredible episode. And again, I think you handled that beautifully. And it was an ancient episode.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
a long time ago who knows how many episodes ago i don't know it's like probably either 140s maybe 150 something like that wow we've been doing this already a long time yeah i remember doing our 50th and like 50th episode right before we traveled to rome like years ago oh wow yeah it was like the last episode we did uh and it was that special like q a episode
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I loved being in story time mode and listening to an ancient episode.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
You're like, I'm going to take a pause on ancient for a while.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Well, Weirdos, I hope you guys enjoyed it. You know the drill by now, right? Follow us on Instagram if you haven't.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
At History for Weirdos, yes. You can also, if you have a story that you'd like to propose, you can email us as well. Historyforweirdos at gmail.com.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, please let us know. Exactly. Well, and that wraps up this week, guys.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Until next time. Adios.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I love that. His homies.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I know. It's like there's zero inventiveness at this point in time. It's funny because the Romans used to make fun of Carthage because everyone was named Hanno, Hannibal, like Hamilcar. It was all like the same dozen names, right? With this period, it's Ptolemy for men and Cleopatra for women. And that's like almost it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, yeah. There we go.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's so absurd. It sounds like we're just making this up.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's very young.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
So are you. I see you casting stones over here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
They're keeping it in the family.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
That's terrible.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
We're your hosts, Andrew and Stephanie. And we're going to take you on a journey into the strange, obscure, and relentlessly entertaining corners of human history.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
I remember you talking about that and how important it was and how she had a very clear plan and was very intelligent.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
So much different.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
We were literally in bed recording that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Which did do that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Oh, yeah. Again.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
They're always at war.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Exactly. And because of them fighting against each other, they literally just... None of them make any massive, long-standing territorial gains.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
And they just weaken each other, and they're both eventually taken over by other foreign powers.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
It's just short-sighted.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Yeah, they're the big boys on the block right now.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Interesting. I didn't know that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 149: Potbelly - the Infamous Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt
Always. Always so nice. And you might be noticing my sweatshirt here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
It's a good backstory.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
He's a doctor.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Andrew is rocking the Kuriyun Wrestling Club merch.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Mm-hmm. But what's he doing in Arizona?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's pretty much the only, one of the only interventions they had. We have a whole episode on tuberculosis.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
If you're interested, also known as consumption, which I died of in a past life, which I think we get into in that episode a little bit.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Maybe that's why I'm so keen towards Doc. But yeah, he's there. Like he was an upstanding gentleman. Like he's well-educated. He comes from a wealthy background and he's just like a scoundrel now.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah. Isn't that crazy?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
exactly no he gambled like his whole thing is like gambling drinking partying and he's an amazing shot for some reason yeah he's an incredible shot i don't know why that would like you know a lot about doc holiday i'm actually really surprised yeah i told you i i feel keen towards him maybe because you know same illness same illness baby
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I love that one. Yes. We have various designs.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Where tensions are really high on, like, multiple levels.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's the Phineas Gage sticker on my water. So we have various designs inspired by podcast episodes and our logo, of course, and pretty much like every design you could get on anything imaginable.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's so cool.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's so interesting because for some reason it's really rare for movies to actually go with like the historical account.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
But the historical account's always so cool.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
He said he didn't mind, though, because you get paid anyway.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I got paid.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
But why pay someone if you're going to disregard them? That's also true. That's so weird.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
OK, so you can see the sign of the OK Corral in the background.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
If you want it on a sweatshirt, on a mug, on a tote bag, on a notebook, on a sticker, you can get it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Ooh, interesting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
And what a weenie.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Like, I don't know what you're doing, dude, but stop hugging me.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Get to fighting or go away.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah. They don't want to mess with these guys.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's me in a fight.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Mm hmm.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
No.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's why I like him.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay, so a set of brothers and then one of the Billys.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow. This all must have felt like it happened at the same time to them.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Everything that you just described must have felt like 30 seconds isn't a long time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
And this is the weenie.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, sounds like a weenie.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's so interesting. I guess it shows how much power the Cowboys have.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Because you would think under normal circumstances that in this lawless town, the law enforcement sort of reacting would be praised.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I think your face is beautiful.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I married you.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's probably true.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Now listen up, friends, because it's about to get weird. Welcome back, weirdos.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
So I'm biased, but I think your face is beautiful too.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
This may be too niche of a question.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Good choice of words.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Do we know why the Earps plus Doc were confronting the Cowboys to begin with? Was it to make sure they were unarmed?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
As a means to try to curb the crime.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay. Yeah, I bet people drinking and gambling probably shoot each other all the time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I just wanted to see what their perspective was. Like, no, we were going to do our job.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay, enough sappy stuff, babe.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I think complainant.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
We just wanted to sell our stolen shit.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
What's wrong with that? We wanted our guns. We want to sell our stolen stuff.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
What are you regaling the weirdos and myself with today?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow. They're the victims.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, that makes sense.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, like you weren't supposed to be armed, and you were.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Whoa, from this little town called Tombstone.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Typical United States.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Very polarized. You're either on that side or you're on this side.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, that's definitely the energy here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, yeah. Thank you, babe.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
There's a very iconic name associated with this fight.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay, nice.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, I'm sure.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, who side was he on?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Which is?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I hate that I'm on the same side. I don't want to be an industrialist.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
No, but I'm not. I'm not for the industrial revolution.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, they were just like doing their job. Okay, why was Doc with them? Doc's not law enforcement.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
No, the name of a person.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Because he's Wyatt's best friend.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's so cute. That's like you and Perry. Oh my God, that's my dog.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, that's our dog. That's my son, your dog.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
So they permanently injured one brother and killed the other.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wyatt Earp is the one.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Ooh. Wyatt Earp's going to be mad.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
It says hero's journey has begun.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
His villain era.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Cool.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
When I had heard about this before, it had always been associated with Wyatt Earp.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Whoa.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's so many brothers.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow. Yeah, unplanned, but they took the opportunity.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Is that like a little threat?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
The Earp posse?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Because they're scared.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Right.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, that's right. That's right.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Mm hmm.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, of course.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow, that's a big posse.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
But I, you know, I wasn't ready to hear that yet.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, so this is all happening quick.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Whose side was Florentino on?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh my gosh, they're picking them off.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Well, tell us about Wyatt Earp and the OK Corral.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
What?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I wonder what they thought about.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Are you going to tell me later?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, tell me later.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
They have a big fight. It split up.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Good, good.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
It's so true.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
It's like they're untouchable while Behan's here because he's their buddy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Why is it called Tombstone?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, that's so cool.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, that's a bummer.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Whoa.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
General Sherman?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
There's a tree named after him.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
In the Sequoia National Forest.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, it's about time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That makes sense.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow. That's wild. It had such ripple effects.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
It's just like their family story, but also like the nation story.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
We were thinking kind of the same thing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, no wonder people were so captivated.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Reverberations?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's very recent.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, that kind of makes sense. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Right. It depended kind of on your political views.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
It's crazy to think that 30 seconds could go on in history for so long.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That is crazy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Which is wild because his story would be portrayed in a very famous movie.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
So interesting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Really?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I love how you said finally died.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Couldn't wait to get rid of him.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
My abuela was alive.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah. That's insane. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
But I feel like that's exactly how I would figure it out.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, that's sad. Those people died of that all the time though.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I mean, you couldn't live with it long.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
You're right.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
oh wow yeah i mean doc had nothing to lose he was a dying man yeah exactly so can you okay i know you're gonna tell me later but did doc say something kind of racist yeah it was doc oh how dare he do that to me it's pretty bad we are no longer friends we are no longer buddies well maybe you could just tell him like hey that's not cool yeah i'm sure that'll work did he and wyatt ever make up
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Right.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
It would have been really hard to keep in touch back then.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
No. So they probably didn't.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
And he died in his 30s.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I guess that honestly, this sounds so silly, but that is what happens when you make violence, regardless of the reason, such a big part of your life.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
You're probably not going to have the happiest life.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
it's a tough time it is yeah it is a really really tough time and there is that very real tension that you mentioned of like people could sense the world was changing yeah and it we're kind of in a similar state and it's very unsteady ground exactly like oh things are gonna be really different yeah i i don't want to get into it too much but i feel like that's what's happening right now yeah it's it's interesting
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
And exploitation.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
A very tumultuous time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I would say so.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
There's a lot of collateral issues.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Whoa. You gave us such an in-depth view of that story that I think gets really this time period and these characters get really heavily romanticized.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
You gave us like a real look at what was going on.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
They're people.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
And people are messy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's why I have a job because people are messy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Well, thank you so much. I loved hearing that from you. It's a time period that I usually love.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
So I liked hearing it from you, which I'm sure you feel the same. I think you've said when I do more ancient stuff, it's like interesting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh, I'm so glad. Well, I loved this one. Thank you so much, babe. And thank you, Weirdos, for listening to this episode. If you liked this episode, please share it with a friend who you think will like it as well. That really helps the podcast grow. And I guess until next time, Weirdos.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Adios.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
As in crack crack?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I was like, did they have crack?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Hello and welcome to History for Weirdos.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
We are here with another episode of History for Weirdos. We are coming to you from the very sophisticated and refined studios of our living room.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I could see why the accounts differ so much then.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Hence Tombstone. Yeah, exactly.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah. So he wanted it to be safer for him, for his benefit.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Shangri-La, our living room. Yeah. So we cannot guarantee that you will not hear Pericles puppy sounds in the background.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I don't even know what that means.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Even better.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, that's not good for investments.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Wells Fargo.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah, I mean, that makes sense that the stagecoach is their little logo, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's crazy, but that's because that's how far they go back.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Also, Virgil. I love the name Virgil.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
That's a great name. If my family could say it, we would name a future child Virgil. Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Virgil? Virgil?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I think it would be Virgil in Spanish. Oh, boy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Yeah. So that's going to be a no, but maybe a future cat or something.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Can we name him Virgil Earp?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Oh my God. What if we get three cats?
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
So Virgil or water Morgan, or you're literally allergic to cats. That's true. I am allergic to cats.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Even though the bird is at the literal opposite end of the apartment, folks have been funny in messages before. Like, I can hear her go like... Just faintly. In the background. Yeah. Well, I'm really excited to hear the tale that you're going to tell this week. I know a little bit of insight into it because I participated in some of the research.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Behan.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I could see that. And all of these names are like wonderful 19th century Western names. I love it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I can't wait.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
I'm not surprised.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Not if the Earp brothers are law enforcement, basically.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
He's a crooked cop.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
So that stinks because he's supposed to be on the Earps side as they take on this huge criminal organization, but it doesn't sound like he's going to be.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Of course it is.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
But before we jump in, we want to remind you all that since we've been back from our hiatus, we also have merch.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Not chill.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 151: Tombstone’s Bloody Reckoning - The O.K. Corral Incident and Aftermath
Damn.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We are millennials without a child. So he is our baby. You know, we're those millennial dog parents.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
He slept in our bed last night. Like there there are no rules when it comes to Perry.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, we're just his servants and his fans.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And if you ever want to see pictures of Perry, videos of Perry, again, follow us on Instagram. We have added a Perry highlight to the page. So you can go through and you can get all the Perry, Pericles content you want.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You announce it because you really worked on this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
The subject of the... I was still cheering for the merch. The merch is huge.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It'll be easier to kind of like navigate and find our content. We'd love to at some point... you know make kind of like a little blog post almost for each episode so we can link like resources there we'd love to you know share the books and the movies and the stuff that we love on there so keep an eye out on the website and that is where they can find the merch right
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And we want to like acknowledge that a lot of people shared or at least I want to acknowledge as a therapist and me. A lot of people shared that they have also experienced burnout. And or are experiencing burnout. And that's just really nice when you share something kind of vulnerable like that, like, hey, we're not doing great. Crashing out for other people to say, I've felt the same.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Well, can I share what the merch is?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Oh, because I kind of spearheaded the designs. Yeah, that was you. Well, actually, some of our designs come from a listener.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You all will see that and we'll credit them in the store as well. So a series of designs are created by a weirdo, a listener, and those are more like History for Weirdos logo type products, which are really fun and cool. I think kind of subtle and quirky, like if you know, you know type of thing. We have merch for Kudiyun. We have merch for Phineas Gage.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
He's the guy who got the iron rod in his head and his personality changed.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We have merch for Yasuke. He was the samurai from Africa, right? And you can find all of these designs, which I can't wait to see what you all think of them, in, like, such a myriad of products.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yes. The emu war. people are such fans of the emu war i know i think that's such quintessential like history for weirdos i mean kudiyun and emus the emu war you know they're the ogs like adhd like history personified right there 100 100 so not only are we back with new episodes we're back with merch and a new website and we hope you enjoy those things exactly all right love
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You want to get started on this episode, the first episode back?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You know, that's OK. You can't be everything.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I love it, especially the bananas part.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Andrew's not as big of a fan of bananas.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I've been waiting for you to bring up the United Fruit Company.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I've been there, too. Always feels so good. And I think a lot of us are experiencing burnout because. That's just the world we live in. It's designed to burn us out. So it's not us. It's the system.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. I really want to go to Antigua.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Oh, that's where he comes into play.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Why would it make the U.S. look bad?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Because they're both U.S. companies, I see.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
But back then we were still pretending.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I really want some cornflakes with little banana slices in them now. Oh, my God. I think other Latinos know. That's how you do it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You got to love it. But we were able to take some rest and we do have a new schedule coming back. Actually, speaking of burnout.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Oh, my gosh. The government does not have nearly as much power as the fruit company.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We want to be really intentional coming back. We want to avoid burnout again, if possible, because as you all know, Andrew and I, this is a passion project we do on the side. We have other jobs that we have to do full time. And so to help us hopefully not burn out, instead of a new episode every single week, we're going to start with an every other week schedule.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
That's insane. So they're exploiting the people of Guatemala, the workers, and they're exploiting the land and hoarding the land.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I had my eyes closed almost the whole time you were talking because I was so embarrassed for the CIA. I was like, why do you always do this?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Why are you always getting involved?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It's not chill to overthrow democratically elected leaders.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Now listen up, friends, because it's about to get weird. Welcome back, weirdos!
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Kicking indigenous people off their own land.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And now they make cool, like, safari-chic clothes.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I can see why. And, you know, we've talked about this. I don't think we've talked about it on the podcast, but we can see very easily when you look at U.S. history why there is so much resentment, so much anti-American sentiment.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Because how... exploitive, inappropriate, disgusting for just an American corporation to have more focus, attention and resources than indigenous people.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yes. Not not even a person, but like a corporate entity.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
To take precedence over people and their lives.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. We see that a lot to Reagan, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
44. Oh, my gosh. The people that have been waiting for this, for their voices to be heard.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. So they're covering health care, education, employment, the things that you need and should want for your country to thrive.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It's like, oh, I just feel like it's like been happening for so long and continues to happen. And it just keeps happening more and more and more. Like the monster of corporatism is just like never satisfied.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You should link it in the show notes too.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, we want to focus on quality with this new schedule so that we can bring you the very best Weird History possible.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, but I can't put my finger on it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Where you're like trying to do something for the people.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And the wealthy or powerful parties that would not benefit from this are like, actually, I'm going to take you out.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
That's the goal here. So we wanted to share that new schedule, and we want to share some updates with you all before we jump into the episode of Since We Last Spoke. What have we been up to?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
That's so interesting. History repeats itself.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I mean, it's very reasonable land reform. This is unused land.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, like, you might as well... It'll help the country to give it to the people.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
But the CIA is like, but that doesn't help the CIA.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Which is insane. That's a mass amount of land.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Right. No one's stealing anything, technically.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
To the people, because you're not using it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And the U.S. government's opinion should not matter in this situation at all. The corporation's benefit should not matter at all. And the elite, that's going to be quite a minority of the people.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We can't profit off this. It's communist.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. You're allowed to have whatever party.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Imagine... Guatemalan people having access to land in their country. That's radical.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
That's communist. That's dangerous.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Get out of here. People having their own land. My gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Hemispheric solidarity is quite an interesting way of putting it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We want everyone to fall in line with us and our best interest.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And even if it was, that's none of your business.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Corruption, corruption, corruption.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
So this is like if you and all of your coworkers had a side hustle. I don't even know where I'm going with this, actually.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
If you want to see Andrew's weird scalp, follow us on Instagram at History for Weirdos. I'm sure a lot of people listening have been at least somewhat interested in hair transplants. Do you want to share what the experience was like?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And then in a neighborhood, and the neighborhood was like, we don't want this side hustle. We want our own businesses. And you all banded together, used your power from your main job to destroy that neighborhood.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I'm not I'm shaking my head. No, no, no, no.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Absolutely. Because you're putting your own profit interests above the nation that you've sworn yourself to.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, and that basically summarizes everything.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You know what's so sad is... In... This like idea of like in our childhoods that they gave us that we, our government, the United States government was free of corruption.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
That other countries had corruption. Corruption is a bad thing. We've been taught it's very, very bad to do things just like this. But the United States doesn't do those things. The United States isn't corrupt.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We bring justice where there is corruption.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. We bring freedom and democracy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Peanut butter success. Peanut butter success. Because you know what tastes really good? Is a banana with peanut butter.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We had half of our lunch. We didn't have our full lunch.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We had half of our lunch. That's true. Okay. I'm not a hobbit. I don't need breakfast and second breakfast and elevensies.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I knew this would happen if we talked about food on the podcast ever.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I mean, bananas are so yummy. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I like bananas that are really like bruised.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I did. Oh, my gosh. I did. I did, actually. That's crazy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
How do you think you're the good guy?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I mean, General Eisenhower would know.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Wow. This is so, so important to remember and acknowledge that governments... will lie to you to make it look like someone's the bad guy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
When they're not really the bad guy, they're just in the way, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
In your today you can look at what's happening and think.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Oh this they're telling me this is the truth but this may not be the truth.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Faire accompli. Yeah. Like it's a done deal.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You're always the good guy when you're learning from the Nazis.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. Makes sense. To gaslight them, to convince them what you wanted isn't actually what you wanted. This is what you want instead.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Well, and we're constantly hooked up to ways to get us information, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I mean, this could create mass hysteria.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I'm so sad. I'm sorry. I'm quiet. I'm so sad. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Of course, yeah. Like a single thing wouldn't have done much, but all of them together and probably in this specific sequence.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
You looked at me like, I didn't bring it up.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, that's what matters the most. You don't need to be powerful. You need the mob to think you're powerful.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
They're just burning through money.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
To get this terrible, terrible thing done.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, in their relationship thus far.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It would be wild to get your hands on one of those.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Like a hierarchy of like who needs to be taken out, who needs to just be pushed to the side.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
doing my business yeah i waited in our hotel for the day because yeah it was like a four-hour procedure um came back and was really excited to see how it went and andrew was too sick and then the first night is difficult in terms of pain oh my god it felt like someone was jack hammering into my skull it was awful and i think um
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Oh, my gosh. The terror that must have been spread.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
So he really is like taking one for the team.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Hello and welcome to History for Weirdos.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Can't even say anything bad about the people that have been terrorizing your country.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, which is who the U.S. had picked all along.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
They're like, you guys could keep putting people here. We're going to get our puppet in there one way or another.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It didn't matter because... Because it wasn't about communism.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We need the fruit company to be making money.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. At the expense of your country.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I think we didn't really ask, but I got sick while we were there, too. So we interacted with like the medical side of Turkey quite a few times. It seems as though they are much more conservative when it comes to pain medication.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
So I'm just thinking, you know, what makes me sad is I'm thinking of the, how this situation that you're describing is Is going to affect generations of Guatemalans, right? This is... Oh, yeah. The long-term effects of this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
This is our first episode back. This is our first episode back after our hiatus.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yes. Oh, wow. I'm surprised people were saying it at the time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
They didn't really provide much pain medication. So that's something to keep in mind. I don't know if we had advocated more for it, maybe. But the first night is painful.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
That's not democracy. No one can pretend that's democracy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, the manipulation, the gaslighting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It's horrific. In this story, at least, I'll taper it, I guess, or I'll contain it. That's the word to this story. The U.S. sounds so much like a narcissistic parent.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It's so, so awful. And then that's going to, like I said, impact generations. And people are going to flee a country where their voices aren't heard and where they're being oppressed and executed. And they're going to want to immigrate here. And then they get demonized for wanting to do that. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
It's just, it's such an awful cycle.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
And then after that, it requires you to kind of sleep funny for a couple weeks.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
The most disgusting things you could possibly do all happening in this one country.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We're just, we got to deal with it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We're going to give land to some people that isn't being used and you're going to pay for the land and we'll just move on.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Guatemala's history would have been so, so different.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, because it was all coming from the U.S.,
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
They're like, oh, no, this is what happened. And everyone's like, yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Right, they're like, we could do this again.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
This is so horrible. This is horrifying. You did such a great job of telling this story, a story that I had no idea. All I knew was really that the U.S. had overthrown a democratically elected leader at some point. I had no idea about the psychological terror and everything, everything that came with it. And I hadn't understood the scope of the ramifications of that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
awful it's atrocious yeah i could see why so many people are resentful of the u.s i get it like even as an american i totally get it yeah like why are we why are we doing this are you meddling causing chaos destroying lives and then being upset with people for not being happy about it
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Like, what are you doing? Yeah. What are you fighting for?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
This is so, so sad. But you did such a great job of telling such a sad, awful story.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I will say I know that in Guatemala, I mean, the Mayan community is still really strong.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
A lot of people still speak Maya. A lot of the Mayan traditions are still being held there. A lot of Mayan textiles can be purchased there, art. Mayan people exist and are still very strong and resilient people in Guatemala and in Mexico.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
That's what I said at the beginning. I really want to go.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I really want to go to Antigua. Guatemala in general looks beautiful. I want to see the volcanoes. I want to eat the food, talk to the people. We should go.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
So that's the little almost like side quest that we went on while we were in Istanbul.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I love that. Yeah, that's what we want to bring to you all, weirdos. Yeah. Anything to wrap up our first episode back.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, buy our merch. It'll be cute. We'll all match.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Find that link in the show notes. Exactly. Oh, and send us pictures of you wearing our merch. That'll be so fun.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I don't understand time. So I have no idea.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
What was your favorite thing that you saw?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
The Basilica Cistern is really, really beautiful. So is the Hagia Sophia. I really was surprised by how much I just loved the city immediately.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Felt super comfortable. I was like, oh, this feels like me.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
But it was red and swollen instead of blue.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Oh, wait. You know what I loved about the city?
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Because I was thinking about the cats we met at that restaurant. There are cats everywhere in Istanbul.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
There's no rats in a huge, huge city.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
But it has been several months. We are so happy to be back. Oh, my God, yeah. And we are very grateful to the weirdos who have been so encouraging and patient and so nice. When we announced the hiatus, everyone was so, so nice.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yes. And it like you won't see a rat in sight and you'll see so many cats and the cats are friendly. And yeah, like Andrew said, like you find them if you go to a bookshop, they're going to be like in the bookshelves. If you go to a restaurant, they sit like at their own table. Like the cats are just there. They're everywhere. The cats are awesome. The city is beautiful.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Everyone was really, really nice and welcoming. Everyone. We met a lot of people from different parts of the world, actually, as a big immigrant community.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Very cosmopolitan. So it was cool. We met people from, gosh, where was everyone from? Where was Naz from? Iran. Iran. Yeah. We met just people from, oh, my gosh, that one Uber driver. He was so cool. He was telling us about the museum.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
yes yeah that was cool he was really cool and he told us about this museum in istanbul that a guy made oh my god yes for his ex like it's a museum of their relationship i think maybe not ex maybe she died i can't remember it might have she it might have been late wife or something something like that but it's like their house and he turned it into a museum and it's like
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
everything she ever owned everything she ever touched it's like bits of her trash it's a shrine to this woman and it's very popular to go visit it we didn't have a chance it was closed when we were near it um and i told andrew i was like that better be you okay can you believe this guys i want nothing less this if i'm gone first you better make a shrine to our love into my existence what do you think weirdos should i
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah. So that was Istanbul. We highly recommend. If you haven't been, it's definitely worth a visit. We would love to see more of Turkey in the future as well.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Oh, great. That's the perfect place. So, yeah, it's been a tough time. This was recent. We weren't expecting this. But I really think you're handling it beautifully. There's no easy way to go through losing your employment unexpectedly.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
But we're pushing through and I think having – coming back to the podcast feels nice because it's like something good to focus on, something positive.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I'm grateful for you too. And we're grateful for you all. And while Andrew is down a job, I have too many jobs.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I will. I am teaching. I think I mentioned this before we left, right? Yeah. I started teaching at Cal State LA graduate class. Shout out to my students if they're listening because I know that they found the podcast and they were excited and I told them we were on a hiatus and the class was like, eh. So if any of my students are listening, hi. Please disregard what I'm about to say. Fast forward.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I think they know because I've talked to them about it. It's not the actual teaching. It's the logistics and administrative stuff that comes with working in academia that is draining. But being with my class is probably the fun part. I don't like grading. I'm like, everyone gets 100. Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
We're all doing our best, okay? So I'm not a big fan of grading. Not a big fan of being the enforcer of rules.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
I hate it. I hate when I have to be like, hey, you're not doing this thing and you need to do this thing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Come on. I've learned a lot from my students. My students are great. They're really cool. I speak of them and think of them fondly. But I think I've realized that with all the things on my plate, I won't be teaching next semester. So that'll be nice. Again, that'll be done in May. So again, I'll have more time for the podcast, which is great.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Yeah, Perry is our penultimate update for you guys. This is Perry. He's a big boy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 148: The 1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état
Probably because of what I just said. I hate being the enforcer. I hate saying no.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Puede practicar conmigo.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yes, and they're similar. When we go to Italy, I default on Spanish a lot.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I get nervous. And then I'm like, I'd lie. And I'm like, I'm not American.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Plus, he was such a weirdo.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I would love to steal that tradition.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
What you're looking at.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Now listen up, friends, because it's about to get weird.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
We need to go next year.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
You got to know what you're looking at. You need context.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Is Giotto then what brought you into Renaissance art specifically?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yes.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Well, how did you find Leon Batista Alberti? Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
You have to catch up.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
She kept you grounded, though.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Animals.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Wow. I didn't realize that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
You brought it back to our anniversary.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Well, first thing that comes to mind, speaking of the Renaissance, you're very much so a Renaissance man.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
We think. We hope so.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
You think. You think.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
We have a lot of listeners that I think they love hearing about people who were multi-passionate.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
And a lot of them are multi-passionate. Do you have advice for anyone who loves many things but maybe feels like, oh, I need to choose one?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
What a pleasant surprise.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
They want to protect you.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. Forget it. Oh, yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
But you took the risk.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
But he was willing to talk to you about it?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Forgiveness isn't easy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
It's so funny that we ended up here because I don't know if you know this, but my actual day job is a therapist. What? Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
So that we, of course, we ended up talking about parents.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
My background is licensed clinical social worker. I'm a psychotherapist. I do a lot of trauma therapy when we're not recording the history podcast.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. It's a lot of mom and dad stuff.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
No emotional trauma. I work with a lot of women with childhood trauma, actually.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
The VA here in Brentwood.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, yeah. The Vietnam veterans had it really rough.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Intellectualizing things?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah, that makes sense.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah, because that makes so much sense, I wonder.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Hello and welcome to History for Weirdos.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Ugh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I think Maya Angelou did the same.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Okay. Chunk it down.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, I'm sure.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Which is probably why waking up and writing is smart because your inner critic isn't as loud.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Uh-huh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
The brainwaves, yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's so interesting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I love that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Not in history.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's what I tell him.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
You did say you need to learn Greek and Latin, right?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I didn't know that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
For the people.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
He spent time at the bar.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
And intermingle and marry.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Cicero.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's a great lesson to learn. That's why you study your history.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Well, you also seem to love... And you know what the name of it is? What?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's perfect.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
This is really going to resonate with American audiences.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Mm-hmm.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Same thing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's a big passion of yours.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
It was a little ahead of its time.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
No?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
It's the Ptolemies.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Even when it's right in front of your face?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's like the soul of the movie.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah, it's the theme.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I know. I love that. That's the theme of most episodes.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
How long have you two been married?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
And then you see everything.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I didn't want to talk about it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
You could rationalize it away.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Very magnetic.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Uh-huh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Very dangerous to come out.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Of all the things.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
When is your birthday?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. It doesn't hold power over a woman.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's true, yeah. So, so true.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
They have no... Like what else?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, good.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That sounds very wise.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. Sí, mi amor.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, the brainwashing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Patriarchal brainwashing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I haven't seen it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Everybody's got to watch it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I want to.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
It could be interesting to watch with your son.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, my gosh.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, we can imagine.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
She... Oh, my gosh. Thankfully, she doesn't listen.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
No, my dad does, though. He'll tell her. Yeah. My mom is from Mexico. She got pregnant with me at 21. I'm 32. Yeah. She has, she's so flabbergasted that we don't have a slew of kids already. She's like, why? Do you have brothers and sisters?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I do. My brother, I have two siblings. My brother is 20. He's a film student right now.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Emerson.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. And he.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
No, no. Boston.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
And then my sister wants to be an actor and she's 16. 16.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
They're much younger, yes. So I felt like I had kids a little bit already. I helped raise them. How old is your mom? I don't know. I'm 32. How old is she?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
She was young when she had me, and so she really thinks we should have a ton of kids already.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Kids are expensive.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
The Latina, for sure. That's the best thing you could do is have a bunch of kids. And I'm like, but you've got the one kid who wants to be a director and the other kid that wants to be an actor. That means I'm going to end up taking care of you one day. So I got to financially plan for that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
They live in Santa Monica. I grew up here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
My dad is a manager of a bar called Big Dean's.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
He listens. And my parents started going to Big Dean's when my mom was pregnant with me.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
And then my dad became the manager.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Big Dean's is really famous because it's been in Santa Monica since like the late 80s.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
The early 1900s, I think. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Forever.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
So I'm local. I grew up here. And I love it. I'm really grateful.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Really? Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Big Deans. And then another one that's close by that I know a lot of folks, it's like classic too, is Shay J's.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. They have like the peanut stuff on the floor. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
I don't know.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That sounds right. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Garden Grove.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Rancho Alamitos. Oh, wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
A little different than Newport. Most people think I'm from Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Like near Disneyland.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
How many languages do you speak then?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
The poor bull.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
My mom went to one when she was a teenager, and my mom doesn't even like animals.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
And she was like, I can't ever see that again.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That must be so beautiful.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yes, please.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's what you want to be when you grow up?
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Wow.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
You've given us a lot of things to add to our travel list.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Next year, our anniversary in Padua.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah. That's going on the list. Absolutely.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Thank you so much.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
That's how kids learn.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
They're encouraging you. But they're encouraging you.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
Yesterday was our eight-year wedding anniversary.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
The single dummy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 150: Art, Ancient Rome, and Androids - The Weird World of Dr Peter Weller
This is good for Andrew to hear, by the way, because I speak fluent Spanish. That was my first language.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
We do have merch. It will be in our show notes.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yes. And we now know what normal school is based off of like weirdo testimony, not testimony, but comments.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I think it would be very popular amongst the red pill community.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Bro, like, there's so many bigger issues.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Like, that's really where you want to make your stand? Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yes. So the link that I'll give you, it goes, it will show you all the designs. And so based off the designs you like, you can click that and then it'll show you like bucket hats, sweatshirts, just like normal hats, coffee mugs even.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I feel like she's you. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Wow. So that's also very like forward thinking of this guy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
He's a true like capitalist and that like, oh, she can make us money. I don't care.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, so that's where she gets it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, I'm not too familiar with 19th century music.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, I'm just kind of like dumbfounded. Like, how do you have this much time? Like, there was so much poverty back then. Like, really?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, she's like a true weirdo in the best sense.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Not very class-conscious of them.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
and you can go ahead and uh you know just buy like whatever strikes your fancy yeah but when you first go in it just looks like there's no merch right it's really just have to click by design yes which is what we wanted to clarify yes thank you thank you yeah and that'll be in the show notes that'll be in the show notes and also recommendations so i'm reading a book for the second time which rarely happens usually you
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, my God. Some things never change. Some things never change.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, I don't, yeah, I have nothing to add on that. That's just okay.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, I'm really surprised they said yes, to be honest.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And she's not Hispanic either, so.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, honestly, like, I respect the hustle. Like, I would want to also go to Mexico. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, the Adelitas, they rebel against his government. Maybe not him specifically, but that government.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, that sounds about right.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
That's right. She's a weirdo.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Moving to the big city, you see.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And OK, her resume already is pretty impressive. Like being a foreign correspondent, like in your early 20s. That's kind of wild.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, wow. Talk about like a stroke of luck there.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
never reread that's right yeah i usually don't but this one is so good i had to and you know me i'm a roman history nerd that's my thing and so i'm actually rereading a book on the early portion of the late roman republic so you're talking about or i'm talking about like 146 bc to around like 70 bc roughly So this is before the rise of Caesar before.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I know. Whenever we cover insane asylums on this show, it's never a good thing. It's always so bad. It's always atrocious.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Right, but it's like if anything, they're more worthy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Not more worthy, but they need more.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
That's the point. It's like if you have cancer, you need cancer treatment. If you're sick in the head, you need that type of treatment.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah. It's like, why don't we just treat them with like some semblance of dignity and respect?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And like at the very end, you have like the rise of like some names you might be familiar with, like Pompey Magnus or Marcus Licinius Crassus.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
They were just thrown in there because they were poor. Oh my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Is this like a state funded or is it part of a religious institution, you think?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And then, of course, Sulla, the blonde haired tyrant, the blonde haired tyrant.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, so it's basically saying like, oh, this does the opposite of what it's supposed to be doing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I was literally thinking that. I was like, so some things really don't change.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, yeah. The book's called The Storm Before the Storm by Mike Duncan, who's also the host of the of the History of Rome podcast, which if you haven't listened to it, that's like that's like an OG history podcast that goes back to like when I was in high school.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Right. I wonder how they're even communicating, if they're communicating at all.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And so she could just get away with it time and time again. Yep. It's amazing.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
So you got to give that a listen.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
She was kind of reminds me of that episode. We did another New York in a state in asylum where Geraldo Rivera broke in.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, that was like in the 70s. So that was like what? Like 90 years later.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
For the second time, it was you. That's true.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
That's so cool. Cause that was the, what Jules Verne.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
No, no. I listened to it once before, but I didn't finish it, to be fair.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
But they're so rich that it doesn't matter.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
She doesn't care about that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I started listening to it for the second time right when COVID was hitting or right before.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, I think there was a movie that came out about 20 years ago.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
They're like, girl, you're going to get killed.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah. Even more so than I am now.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Guys, Stephanie, when she first heard the word Hoboken, she didn't believe that was a real place.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
No, she thought her aunt was messing with her and be like, OK, I'll meet you in Hoboken.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I know. Imagine the weirdos that are in Hoboken right now. They're like, are you kidding me?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And then you just created a monster.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, that's true. That'd be really scandalous.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
But then she has to go across the country.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
But like it would be so easy to do it in less than 80 days. Maybe without planes. Like we can only do like cars, trains, ships.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Not everything has to be the same.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Or, you know, corporate sponsors. If anyone's listening, please sponsor this trip.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, dude, that's actually sick.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
yeah I usually don't reread and the reason why is because like a like I think the time period is fascinating and be I mean he does pull from a bunch of like primary sources and kind of weaves together a really good story and especially like this it's such an interesting time in its own right but it's often overshadowed by the late late Roman Republic right of course you have like the civil wars between the first triumvirate and then you have of course the rise of Augustus and the end of the Republic itself yeah
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, I'm really impressed that she could. She did that alone as a woman in the late 19th century. Like, it's a little bit easier now. Still dangerous, right? Especially in some areas. We're going to run into some issues.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
But the fact that she did it back then when there weren't cell phones, there weren't any sort of like technology that we are reliant on today.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, exactly. She's not live tweeting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Maybe we need to go to Jules Verne's house.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
So she's like in her early 30s at this point. She's like 31. She's done all this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
It's like my Alexander moment.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Okay. Either this is a huge mistake or this dude is like a homie.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, so, okay. I see what you're doing, girl. I see what you're doing here.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I know we married each other and we're poor.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, yeah. You got to do what you got to do.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
See, it's like a boring business.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, so she's like, I mean, she went from being wealthy or kind of rich to wealthy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
No, no, no. This is even before Henry Ford. That's impressive.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
So obviously it's going to overshadow the earlier portion, but it shouldn't.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
So funny. The guys. The mustaches.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I know exactly what you're talking about. They might have.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
They definitely didn't have like, like, you know, squat racks or anything.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
See, like you think, oh, who cares? This is boring. That's exactly the point. You're not going to have competition if you have a boring business. So you own this business and it's like you just kind of apply a little bit of passion to it. Yeah. Your competitors are like are probably super old, just like they're doing. They're just running through the motions. They're fuddy duddies.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
But a teeny bit of like some new technology, you're going to be the front runner. Also, you're not going to get new entrants because it's a boring business. Yeah.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
What is up with these types of people that just like they allow their greed to just run rampant and it ruins things.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, my God. He's so pissed at this guy.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
She's like, I mean, I guess that is, like, you know, the past is the past. Like, you can't change it. You can only just learn from it and be like, okay, what do I do now? Let's move forward.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I'll give you there's just a lot of parallels between what's happening today and what happened then. And it's a little terrifying, but it's like watching a train wreck. You can't not stop watching.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh my goodness, that's right.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
So she's like in her early 50s at this point. Wow. So she's had an illustrious career.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I guess we can't be perfect.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Right. Until like by the civil rights or.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah. That would be like a special.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Was that by her choice? I don't know.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh my God. That'd be so cool.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
So any weirdos in New York, if you go to Woodlawn.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And you go to the Woodlawn Cemetery. Just like lay some flowers at our grave. Take a picture. Send it to us. We'll post.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, my God. That is so your dad. Preferably a Yankees-Daughters game where the daughters win.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Manifesting. Okay. Well, without further ado.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I was like, wow, she's like an independent investigative journalist. That's so cool. Mm-hmm.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I've heard of that show. I think it's like an older one. And it looks interesting. I would give it a shot.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
That's right. I forgot about this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, wow. That's really cool.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I had no idea we would be doing an episode on that very subject.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, that's how you know you made it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Well, thank you so much for sharing. You know, it's interesting. Her story as an industrialist actually reminded me of Henry Ford being a little bit of like a trailblazer with wanting to make the lives of his workers better. Like, for example, he introduced and not because of him, but some people who he went up against are the reason why like corporations so evil today.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Weirdos, welcome back to another episode of History for Weirdos with your hosts, Stephanie and Andrew at West Coast Creative Studio in Hollywood, California.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
He wanted to give profits to employees.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And Dodge Corporation still exists to this day was like, no, it needs to go to shareholders only.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And that has irrevocably damaged U.S. worker relations.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And I feel like she would have been supportive of that. She probably would have done something similar.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, weirdos, check it out. Read it. Let us know if you liked it.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, exactly. Also, you can watch the full-length video on YouTube. In fact, I think today we just crossed 1,000 subscribers on the channel.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Small wins. So thank you guys for that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Until next time, weirdos. Adios.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Which I feel like is that's like the adaptation. Wow. Some weirdos might get mad at me for this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, they're going to have opinions.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I mean, it's Keira Knightley.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
The 95 one? Yeah. Okay. I will.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I really liked it. I thought it was like a, it was a really good story. A bunch of people like going to each other's houses and just kind of like hanging out, you know, it was in a way it's kind of like Seinfeld or friends. No, I wanted to give a hilariously terrible take and just see what you'd say.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Except without the awkward, like, I lost my phone. What am I going to do?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, yeah. The scene where they're kind of just like the picnic scene. That was awkward.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I just conflated the two. I genuinely thought that was Pride and Prejudice.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
And now without further ado, Stephanie, what story do you have for us this week?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I think the first request for this person came, not an exaggeration, years ago.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yes, this is a really good one.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
What a punk rock move, like straight up. That's such a G move right there.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
It's so much better, I swear.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Excellent. I love that. That's such a like a quintessential like good weirdo mantra.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I know. I mean, it's always good to be in studio.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Not staying in your place. Like don't just I don't know, just not being stuck in the mud.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Sounds like she's like kind of an early investigative reporter.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Okay, I'm going to be quiet now and I'll let you talk.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah, and makes it feel a little bit more professional. Dare say a little bit more weird.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I think it's a little factory for food.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
But the factory makes it seem more grandiose.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Let's do that. We're going to go with that.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
In a good way. We're bringing the weird to the weirdos. Okay, well, before we get into your episode this week, which I'm actually really, really, really stoked for.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Is that like her favorite color?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, so she never really got to know him.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
What? How does that even happen?
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Always, right? It should just be on default. But this week, I wanted to give you a little bit of a recommendation. So before I even give you my recommendation, go buy our merch.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, so like his the mill is his asset and he doesn't even get to own it or like his wife doesn't get to own it after his death.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
We're your hosts, Andrew and Stephanie, and we're going to take you on a journey into the strange, obscure, and relentlessly entertaining corners of human history.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
You know, I'm starting to notice a trope here. And it's about like kind of a wealthy individual growing up, but witnessing injustice and then devoting their life to like, like solving that injustice. Tiberius Gracchus is like a perfect kind of allegory for this.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, I've never read that. That's interesting.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Excellent. Yeah. Teddy Roosevelt.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, wow. So some dude has to be like, I'm going to take on your 15 kids.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Yeah. I have no frame of reference, too. I'm a man. I'm not going to ever give birth.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
I can't even imagine giving birth once.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
That was so unhinged. Oh, my God.
History For Weirdos
Episode 152: The Absolutely Wild Life of Nellie Bly
Oh, yeah, that's not fun. So he's not drinking to have a good time.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
It's been a crazy eight months out here. So I need to go back and look at it. It probably is. I just haven't. paid close enough attention. And I'm usually really good about that, but transitions are crazy.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Oh, yeah.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
No, I have played with compound interest before and it was fun. I just didn't completely under like I understand what compound interest is. I just am not familiar enough with how it all works to properly completely understand it if that makes sense.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Okay, good.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
I did not realize that.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Okay. Do you have a entity set up for yourself? Yes, I do. And then I also own a, well, It's an S-Core. So I have a business partner for a software company as well. So I freelance and own my own company. You do so many things, sister. Yeah, I do. That's crazy.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Do you make more than 150K a year? Not right now. Once that software hits the market, I will make more than 150, I think. At least that's what the forecasting is showing. Yeah.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Okay.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
That actually feels doable. It doesn't seem as overwhelming when you break it down that way, because as a freelancer, it's like you have so many things up in the air. And this actually makes, like, in my line producer's mind, makes so much sense because I'm like, oh, okay, well, here. Like, here are our steps.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Here are our, like, as goofy as this sounds, geometric proofs, even though it's not a geometric proof. Talk dirty to me, Stephanie. Yes. Like, that's how I think though, is like, I think in proofs, like if this, then this, or if I mix this variable, what does it do with my overall and not, yeah, that's how my brain works. So, yeah.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Yes. I have it in two separate savings accounts that are high yield savings accounts. Probably not the best thing for me to do, but it felt the safest. So I just kind of forget that it's there. 99% of the time I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot about that because it pulls like a little bit every month. I have one set up for me, one set up for my 16 year old son. And that's, that's how we do it.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
So, you know, his college fund is in a CD.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
right now but i'm gonna move it when i can too because i was not in a place to be able to like start saving for him as as early as i should have and so i'm taking a little bit more risk with his stuff that i actually feel comfortable with doing but i want him to be able to go to the college he wants to too because you know he of course wants to go to a very big expensive college which is good i'm glad but also scary
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
That actually makes a lot of sense. it's interesting to think that like, it's, it's not selfish. Like it feels selfish, but it's not, it's like you said, put your oxygen mask on first.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Absolutely. Absolutely. We have a plan. I love it. Thank you so much for taking the time.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Stephanie, welcome to Money Rehab. Thank you. Thank you. I'm excited to be on and talking to you.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
retirement planning is hot on your mind. Sure. So I'm a producer of film and theater. Specifically, I work in line producing, which if you're not familiar with that, they're the people on set that tell everybody no budget wise, probably the least popular because we have to say, no, that's not in the budget. And so, you know, my life revolves around schedules and logistics and budgets and
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's the people that want more money and it's just like, you know, you can't, you can't rob Peter to pay Paul. Like you just, it doesn't work like that. You can't invent money. I wish I could.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
But part of the reason why I feel like it's so important is because like as a freelancer or even just, even in this industry, in the film industry, if you're not in specifically the studio system, you don't really have a safety net and they don't teach you how to plan for the future. So you're kind of like, unless you get an MBA, which I did get an MBA to help me become a line producer and,
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
you're kind of just stuck out there and you're like, okay, what do I do? And even if you get an MBA that's not planning for the financial future, that's really just strategizing.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
So producers, if I was a unit production manager, I technically, once I got the hours, could be a part of the DGA, which is Directors Guild. But Producers Guild is not a union. It's a guild. And so there aren't nearly as many protections for people who are line producers because... They're guild, not union. I don't even know what the difference is.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
One gives you bargaining power, like a union bargaining power. And the other protects you with some things like some insurance, some help in financial issues, but not a lot. Okay. So we're on our own. Yes, pretty much.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
As far as current situation, stressed, anxious, spiraling out of control. But it's either feast or famine in the freelance world. You either have way too much work or you have done. And so it's it's very it's scary.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
So I have two very opposing parents. And by that, I mean, my stepdad spends money like it's going out of style. He is an entrepreneur. He doesn't worry about it. And then you have my mom who is an accountant and she is very good. And she has all of like, she has CPA. She has all of these other things. In fact, she was a, she was a fraud auditor, which I think is amazing and cool.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
It's very bad-ass. Yeah. She's a, she's a really, really cool woman. And so she was always like, okay, this is how much we have to spend. And so I,
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
my home situation was very weird growing up because it was like i have a stepdad who spends a lot and whenever he wants and then i have my mom who counts her pennies and puts it away and has an amazing retirement and because of her putting away an amazing retirement she and my stepdad have an amazing retirement but it's because of her it's not because of him
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
that's clear and so do you think you're more like her or more like him or that's a combination probably because i could have gone the direction my brother went which was okay we're going to get a stable job that comes with all the bells and whistles of having a very stable job or there's the entrepreneurship freelance world that would fill my soul
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
I'm in my 40s, so I'm 41. Okay, same.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Yeah, if possible, I would love to be 55 or 60, though that's probably not going to happen unless... The project that I've been working on for three years really takes off. And then it's going to be great, but it has to take off.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Oh, more than likely, I'm sitting in a garden close to water. Like, doesn't matter if it's a lake, doesn't matter if it's a beach, doesn't matter if it's a river. It just needs to be close to water, surrounded by garden. I'm very much a, like, water and earth type person. I don't like camping, which... be perfectly honest.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
I hate camping, but I love being where like I can smell the flowers or I can be close to nature without actually having to deal with the bugs and things that, that are naturey.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Okay.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Absolutely. I mean, I would love to own a house again. When I was in my 20s, I owned a house and then I got divorced and that throws everything into craziness. And so I would love to own a house. My dream goal would be to be able to put 30% down on a house. And in Southern California, that's probably about $300,000. Cooking a lot at home just because I tend to go Mediterranean style.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
So a lot of vegetables, things like that, hence gardening, like being around gardens, being able to do things like that. So probably about $700 to $800 a month in food. I drive a nine-year-old car now that I absolutely adore because it's a Lexus. And, you know, Lexuses tend to be decent cars. They last a long time. They're safe, things like that. So I'm not a new car person.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
I'm like, as long as it's decent and it gets me where I need to go, I don't need the, like... crazy stuff. You know, I want to be able to travel as well, but not crazy travel, like not yachting around the world more. Like I just want to be able to go and see places that I haven't been.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
So like in my mind, it's not the, it's not the really, really high end stuff, but it's not also your budget stuff either. Does that make sense?
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
About $4,250 a month. It goes up and down a little bit, anywhere from $4,000 to about $4,500 a month right now. And I'm fixing that because I'm moving to a different space that is less expensive, but larger in a different part of Los Angeles. So it makes a whole lot of sense to me. It's also closer to the water. Yeah.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
Okay. Yes. I'm improving my budget in that I will spend less on rent in the next year because I'm moving to a different space that will improve my budget by about $1,000. Okay.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
I know it's a big number. I'll just, no, it actually, I mean, because I work in film, it doesn't actually sound like, I mean, that's, that's a decent size film. So like to me, 1.5. Yeah. is a decent production. That sounds so crazy, but that's what it sounds like to me as a freelance producer.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
About, oh, it's terrible. I only have like $5,000 saved right now. I also moved across the country last year. Last summer, I moved across the country. So I picked up everything from Central Texas and moved to Los Angeles. So yes, I have a lot of work to do.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
How to Save for Retirement If You're Self-Employed: No 401(k), No Problem
I think it's a regular, it's not a Roth IRA. I think it's a regular IRA. Traditional. Yes. I think I'm pretty sure it's a traditional IRA. I don't have any money in stocks and bonds right now. Are you sure? Because if it's in that traditional IRA, did you allocate? I'm not sure. I think I did. I think I did. I haven't paid enough attention to it, if that makes sense.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And for some reason, somehow they were able to get a close up of the teleprompter. And it shows that they wrote drink singer. Pretend to make a mistake. Correct yourself. Oh, no. You're kidding me. Because they want to draw more attention and make this clip go viral so that everyone will hear about the yogurt brand. And they successfully generate so much buzz for the brand.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
That's what I'm saying. It was crazy. Additionally, the production team had set up individual rooms for each singer with dedicated camera angles that are being live streamed with the front of each singer's face, just like online streaming their rooms. And viewers could see the singer's reactions during the entire show. And netizens were so...
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
exhausted they would come home from a nine to nine they'd settle down at 10 p.m and they said that they feel like they are busier than the director of this show they got seven screens with seven different live streams set up they got the show they got one contestant two contestant three contestant they're like hey bring me your laptop i got another i gotta get another screen it was exhausting it was exhausting
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And the cameras, the singers themselves, the cameras were pointed directly at their face, nonstop live streaming, because normally in these edited shows, you would see singers sitting there and then they would just kind of zone out because nothing's happening right now, right? But then it's being live streamed. And Fosia, I love her so much. I fell in love with her because of this show.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She has a beautiful resting face. However, it's not super smiley. So then she would constantly catch herself just very serious looking. And then she would be like,
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
There's a camera Right in her face, and she's like I don't want anyone to think I'm like being rude cuz she's so sweet But it's just like she's just pondering preparing to go up on stage, and she's not smiling so then she's like It's just so awkward I mean she handles it like a queen, but I can imagine it's very awkward and her whole Listen, I wish I could.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I'm going to try my hardest to, I don't know, do some like copyright. No, I'm just kidding. I can't, but I'll just sing it for you. I'll just sing how she sings.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
There is something about her singing. I usually don't get goosebumps when I watch people live because I feel like you watch a lot of people live. And then it just kind of wears off. And then you got to go to the concert to get goosebumps. I was getting goosebumps at every single one of her performances on this show. Especially her... I think it was like Desert Rose. Anyway, I'm going to link it.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I was getting goosebumps. All the hairs on my arm were standing up and doing the wave dance. Like they were at the fucking Super Bowl. Like it was crazy. I was feeling so many things. People said that her voice is...
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
is like a deep ocean not the beach but the ocean in the midst of a calm like wave cycle that's not how they describe it they describe it she just has it's like the last cycle of your washer you know It's like a gentle power. It's so powerful, but it's not chaotic. It feels warm and inviting. And then you have all of these emotions surging in your chest. I think I love her.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I want to say I watched it every single day for like two weeks straight. Anytime I felt a little saddy, you know, baddies get saddies, a little depresso espresso, I would watch this clip of Nihao from the other side. And I just want to say that set me down a rabbit hole because the show that she was on was in China. It was a singing competition. And that clip goes viral.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I think I'm in love, okay? Her vocal range, her technique, her stage presence is impeccable. When she finishes performing her very first song...
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
first of all i thought it's like playing a record on a cd like you're telling me this is not lip synced it's not it's not i'm not even saying it is but it was absolutely incredible everybody in the crowd they don't even know how to act they don't know how to respond they're so shocked what the fork is going on how is she 24 how is this happening and they thought okay this is about to be the best show ever
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
she is the first person to sing oh she's the very first it's only gonna go up from here that's fucking crazy it's about to because you know you would think that they're gonna save like the best for a second to last last you know and then it's just gonna amp up and play with your emotions and it's just escalating more and more and then they play the second one um hi lai amu
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
a folk singer that became famous through doing tiktok in china and mainly famous with like 50 year olds the song he chose to perform was clearly not a fan favorite and um it's like um it was like a boner kill everybody was so confused what just happened like they were so emotionally stirred up people were getting emotional in the crowd people were crying in the crowd and then all of a sudden
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
It was like back to reality. It's so weird. It was really weird. I mean, the skills were just completely unable to even compare. It just didn't make any sense. And then you had Rainie Yang. She's an icon of Taiwan pop culture.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
you know how many um like drama she was in like the really really trendy drama she's known for like having some crazy concerts she'll hang upside down like a moth like a moth in a cocoon she'll go underwater and she'll sing and it sounds like No, just kidding. It sounds really good. However, unexpectedly, I don't know if it's due to being extremely nervous. She was allegedly very out of tune.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I'm so musically in talented. I was listening to every single person going, it's not that bad. How do I know if it's out of tune? It sounds on tune to me.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
No, it was still like a desert. Yeah. It was not even one mile per hour of wind. Yeah. It was like this room is sweaty. So she goes up there and she... I will say there was a lot of discourse amongst Chinese netizens at the time saying that a lot of the Chinese singers were too focused on perfectionism.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
They were too focused on being perfect with their body language that it didn't feel like a performance.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She has to do hit a high note and she I don't know what's happening. She just overexerted herself. It's not that high of a note, but she tilts her head all the way back to look at the stars and the moon in the sky. And then her mouth is all the way open and people have compared her to a sneaker. A what? A sneaker.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
You know, when you take off your sneakers and you put them on the ground, the whole of the sneaker is perfectly circular and staring at the sky.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
But so does so much other stuff. This is probably the most controversial singing show other than a different one that we covered. But we're not going to get saddies right now. We're not going to get saddies.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I don't know why they compared her to a sneaker I think the heat is making us lose our minds right now So they compared her to a sneaker And so that was like the first big meme to come out of the show. And even for the first episode, even the very experienced Na Ying that everybody thought it was gonna, she's got it in the bag. She fell short of expectation. She was not doing well.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
When it was her turn, she was so very clearly nervous for this very first live broadcast. The opening of her song, they said it sounded too tight. Her voice was obviously trembling, but not in the way that it should be. It just sounded like her voice was shaky and not stable. It felt... didn't feel good. But after the first chorus, she quickly gets back into her groove.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And once her voice opens up, she gets a lot better. And when she finished singing, she comes down from the stage and fans are shouting at her like, great job. Don't worry. Don't be nervous. You can't lose. You got this. And then after her, Shantay Moore goes up onto the stage and everyone is like, OK, so this is the first foreigner killed it. Let's hope this one does it.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Because, you know, Chinese netizens, they were feeling a lot of Chinese pride. So they're like, We got it. We got it. And I think all of it was friendly, fun competition, right? And so she gets up on the stage and... They said, someone call the cops. Someone call the president. Somebody call somebody. Because we don't got it in the bag. The bag is missing. The bag is with the foreigners.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Shantae Moore comes up on stage and performs the song, If I Ain't Got You by Alicia Keys. And the way she comes up, you would think that she is up on the stage, Sunday service. singing a random song for five members of the church. So casual, so carefree. And her voice is like a 10 out of 10. The vocals are so powerful. Even like the register changes, people were saying everything was so smooth.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Honey, that's you.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
so natural and this is a pretty difficult song to sing it's not an easy one and the audience comments i mean they said this is definitely first place like this voice is so comfortable this is not even at the same level as any of the chinese singers what's going on right now even the professional singers like na ying can sit there and recognize the difference in skill level when she hears shantay's part she scrunches up her face in amazement
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
It's just like every time I see a TikTok of, if you're not doing this to your washing machine every two weeks, your house is going to explode. I send it into the family group chat and I think they're so sick of me. Anyway, I digress. It's actually from one of the most controversial Chinese singing shows in recent times. And that is called The Singer. I am a singer 2024.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Na Ying throughout the entire season looks like everyone around her is farting.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Someone is tooting up a storm right next to her at all times. That's her look every single time. What's even more amazing is the host and hostess are talking to Shantae and she's like, yeah, I literally just got here from the airport. You didn't like need to prep for the past few weeks. Make sure your vocal cords are opened up to those facial steamers and stuff. You just like came here.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
What? What's even crazier is she didn't even know she was going to be performing because she said, oh, yeah, originally, I think that there was some miscommunication or language barriers because I thought I was coming on to the show to be a judge. But I came and I was a contestant. She didn't even know she had to sing, I think.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, she was like, let me just put my playlist on shuffle and see what happens. Okay, Alicia Keys, let's do it. People were so, people were commenting. After participating, she did realize she definitely could have been a judge. She was right. She definitely has the qualifications to be a judge on this show. So after Shantae, you got the last contestant.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And they were, a lot of people were talking about them, but not in the best way. Secondhand rose. There's always been controversy surrounding secondhand rows. Some people call them China's funeral band. They're like a rock band.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, they're like really old school and they have a lot of similarities to traditional Chinese ceremonial music that's typically used in like funerals that happen, not even in the cities, but in the villages. And so people say they're the funeral band. And so they came up and they sang a very expected song. And everyone says this is the funeral for CPOP.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
All the Chinese netizens said this is the funeral for Chinese music industry. The foreigners have taken over. We're being colonized. came over like there's we shouldn't even try anymore and that is how they end the night even na ying when the funeral band is up there she looks shocked she looks shocked at what she is witnessing it was it was bleak
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
yeah yeah and so all the comments to the reaction of the funeral band song secondhand rose is if there's no way to beat the foreigners then let's at least creep them out was the motive from the secondhand rose I will say, I will say, I will say, I said, I will say, I like secondhand Rose. I like that they're doing their own thing.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I like that how unique they are and they're not trying to conform to regular, you know, normal expectations of society. I like them. I stand them. Do I think that they seem better than Shantae Moore? No. Okay. That's just my humble opinion. Now, by the end of the first episode, it was undeniable that Shantae Moore and Fosia, who showed absolutely
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
outstanding vocal skills did much better in terms of vocals and stage presence and unsurprisingly they ranked first and second and then na ying ranked in third place
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yes. Every single week they rank them. And then at the end, they choose one. Oh, yeah.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah. And then netizens are commenting, the gap between Chinese and foreign singers level is like the difference between the Grammys and the Strawberry Music Festival. That is a Chinese music festival held in a small town. People were making memes of Fosia and Shantae at the Grammy singing. Like they said, this is the Grammy Awards.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Na Ying is the Golden Melody Awards, which is like the Chinese Grammys. And then everyone else is the Strawberry Music Festival. And then the other ones are the Red and White events, which is what they call traditional music. Village weddings. Village wedding performers. Yeah, and so some netizens are commenting, the competition for the last place is even more intense than for the first place.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
so uh people were not having a good time and then you have you know nae was making some funny faces throughout the entirety of the show and there's one where she's looking off to the side looking very stressed looking around and the meme is the words who signed me up for this does anybody care about my life
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
in this show she holds up three fingers it's actually these three fingers she holds up three fingers i think she's making the okay sign right and then but her face is very serious and the caption reads need three people who can sing hurry and come right now i need three people And the Chinese netizens, they run with this show. They call this the National Protection War, okay?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Netizens start suggesting finding better Chinese singers that can come to the show to compete. And they said, this is like, this is no longer a singing show. This is a battle to defend the honor of Chinese music. We need a national team assemble right now. Musicians, anyone on the national level, we need to bring glory to the nation. Okay, so people start commenting, singers comment sections.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And like, you know how on TikTok, well, I don't know on TikTok, can you add memes now? You know how on Instagram you can add memes? Yeah, well, on Douyin and all these different places, you can add memes in the comments, okay? And all of them are doing naïve means. So there's another singer, Gloria Dang. All the netizens were like, Gloria, tap in. It's your time. You got to go in. Come on.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She's so good live. She's very talented. People called her the queen of iron lungs because her body is like a pinky. She's like shaped, not shaped, like size, like a piece. She's a tiny little woman. And the voice that she's got on her. People say, how do you fit those lungs inside of you? That doesn't even make any sense. And she's very. Wait, what? Who? Gloria D-E-N-G. And so people. Oh, honey.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
That's how they know.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Ooh, it's like code.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Oh, yeah. Damn, that's her code name.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Jennifer Lawrence. Yes, yes, yes.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I love her. So good. Okay, so up. They're all changing. All the netizens are changing their profile name to Na Ying and then posting Na Ying memes under Gloria's comment section. And it reads, Dear Gloria, come back soon. Can't hold up anymore.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And then another one, the nation is in crisis. Please help me. And it's Na Ying. So Gloria is live streaming one day and she's eating beef noodle soup. And suddenly there's like a million netizens tuned into her life, which is crazy. Like a million people on a live stream. She's like, whoa, what just happened? And she's like, do you guys just really like beef noodle soup? What's going on?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
sometimes he would look at the meme and he would laugh for five minutes straight and i would be so patient on this side and i'd be like why what is it what is it and then he'd be like no you wouldn't get it i'm sweating oh and you don't want to give up your ice pack you're holding on to that ice pack like it's your first born child you guys want to hear the ice pack yeah
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Like I never have this many people on my life. And all the comments are, how can you still be in the mood to eat beef noodle soup right now?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
help save the nation stop eating and go save naing and so this is all the comment section and gloria also a funny lady she responds of course i know what's happening i know i get it you want me to save the nation right but i'm currently on tour okay so she can't go so they all abandon her and they say come on tap in gong lina
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
this is your dad's favorite artist your dad loves her how do i know this information i don't know it's stored somewhere inside my brain now and i can't ever get rid of it okay she combines traditional like chi music that's how they describe it okay with pop fusion she's incredible okay and she's posting um she was on doing posting k-pop dance videos and everyone is commenting
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
dancing i'm about to explode the other foreigners have nuclear weapons and we got the second hand rose throwing firecrackers we need help how do you still have time for k-pop when c-pop is on fire
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
There was a clip that was going viral. Also, if I start sweating or if I look red, it's because the AC in our home is broken. And I don't know why. It's the middle of winter, technically. But I'm sweating. It's never been hotter. It's hotter than our wedding night. This is like the steamiest. The chemistry is awesome.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
and so then there's another band called phoenix legend ah that's another it's a duo yeah yeah and uh everyone in the comments you two stop training it's time for the battle come on it's time to fight against the foreigners let's go what are you doing and they're all responding sorry scheduling conflicts And so people are getting so fucking stressed out right now.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And then on May 12th, one of China's most respected and powerful vocalists, Han Hong, posts on to Weibo.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Oh no, this is your dad's favorite.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, she's really good.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Oh, she's the one that does... Oh, she's good. Yeah, yeah. She's good. And in her post, she declares, I am Chinese singer Han Hong, and I volunteer to join the battle.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, she tags. And she's also in her 50s. And so all the netizens go, damn, two 50-year-old ladies guarding the National Door Hall. It's her and Na Ying. Really? That's what we got? That's what we got right now? Wow.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
yeah so good so uh nevertheless regardless of her intentions people were posting all these fighting for the country answer the call okay all these videos and people are trying to tap in even influencers are offering to go on there they're saying that i think i can do better and people were commenting can these random people stop recommending themselves we don't need more seventh places okay we don't need more seventh places
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
No, they're literally so famous.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
So famous to the point where... Yeah, yeah. No, it's kind of funny and it's really cute and endearing. And I thought it was the cutest thing ever. So Shantae Moore, right after it premiered, she was out scene shopping just so casually. And first of all, that becomes a meme because how the f*** is she just out there shopping so casually? And all the Chinese singers are probably rehearsing nonstop.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And she's just like, she looks like she's on here for vacation. And the show is a side gig. She's like doing it on the side for fun, like a volunteer project. OK. And so the first night she goes out, she is dressed super casually. But everybody is like, you're the Shantae Moore. And they keep taking pictures of her that the next time she goes out, she's dressed a little more formally.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And she's like trying to be respectful of the customs and like not that she wasn't before, but like trying to, you know.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
just more like okay let me take pictures with you guys and there's people just like lining up everywhere taking they love them they love them it's supposed to be a joke you know they're having fun they're making fun of their own singers okay and so everybody is calling this the great chinese battle They're just having fun. They're bored. A bunch of people at home, bored, and they're making memes.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
That's it. And people also started these contestant recruitment rankings, polls, on who you think should be recruited for the army next, okay? And you've got some of the best singers, right? Jay Chou is on there. But he actually didn't get the most votes. The most votes went to someone named L-E-I-J-U-N. You know, Leijun?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
it's like all water now july 27th 2024 about let's say six months ago there are some other viral clips that are going from this show and it's not just nihao from the other side there's so much controversy from this show and it all starts with a kazakh singer and songwriter by the It's hard to hear exactly what he says, but when you audio enhance it, it's in English.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He's the founder and CEO of Xiaomi. Oh, what the fuck? He's China's Steve Jobs. Yeah. And so people said they actually... Here, let me show you the video.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah. He's actually listed as a Western male singer on Chinese music apps.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
what is going on oh he went to india for a xiaomi presentation and uh yeah he his very famous line was are you okay and all the top comments are nobody asks if lei jun is okay cry face cry face cry face So he won top place for recruitment onto the show with 11.8 million votes. Yeah. Yeah. Jay Chou only got 20,000 votes.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
It's a hit song. And because it's in English, he is listed as a Western male singer on Chinese music apps. Yeah. I don't know what's so funny about that. But no, at the end, some netizens volunteered themselves. They said, if worse comes to worse, I'll do it. I'll brave myself. Even if the foreign singers win against me, it won't be an honorable victory. Okay. So let me go. Let me go.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Others said, we need to get this guy on there. And they posted a link to a talent show, like one of those China Got Talent shows. And it was a male contestant who said that he can sing the highest pitch in China. And they were like, give it to us. What's the highest pitch? And he went, ah!
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Like a dog dropped in the lake. Yeah, so netizens commented, my dog makes a higher pitch when someone steps on its tail. This is scarier than stepping on a squeaky chicken toy. If a rat and a cockroach jumped on my face at the same time, I would hit a high note twice as high. So people were saying he needs to tap in.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
So then a week after the second episode airs and the show continues trending, it actually gets more explosive in viewership. In this new episode, you have two new singers, a Chinese singer that goes by the name Yellow and Hangai Band. It's like a rock band from Mongolia. They joined the competition. And that means the two lowest ranking contestants would be eliminated. Everybody loves Yellow.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I mean, he's got very impressive singing skills. But he also is the new meme content for the show. People say he can make his talent is not really singing. He's good. But his real talent is making 800 different expressions in one second.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yes.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
People say he looks like the muscular Squidward from Spongebob Squarepants. Yeah, yeah. Or people say, what's that show? Austin Powers. You know the bald guy with the pinky that goes like this? He looks like him. They were saying lots of stuff. They said that his head is perfectly egg-shaped. I don't know, okay? I don't know. We're in an egg shortage.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I haven't seen an egg in a minute, so I can't tell you. But after this performance, during the interview, he directly states that he had eaten too much... food and needed to urgently take care of business so they're like interviewing him after his performance and he's like i gotta go take a basically
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Also netizens dug up this Pizza Hut commercial that he was in last year I don't know what Pizza Hut in China is doing but Pizza Hut marketing in the US I don't know if their legal team just doesn't know how to have a giggle gaggle but this Pizza Hut commercial in China is It's the most insane thing that you would ever imagine. It's like a fever dream. I feel like I'm high on drugs watching it.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I feel like I've taken ayahuasca shrooms. I've done acid, ketamine. I don't know. List all the drugs that I am legally not allowed to take simultaneously straight injected into my skull. That's what this Pizza Hut commercial is. He morphs into a pizza.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He's laying naked on the table and then someone is throwing pepperoni to cover his groin and then he morphs into a pizza and then the pizza starts breaking.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I'm so f***ing serious. Yeah, lots of memes are coming out. The lead singer from the band looks like the character King Kai from Dragon Ball. And then he keeps smiling and holding up his fist and then he looks like Doraemon. So everyone is like, what the f*** is happening? At this point, they're recruiting singers based off of memeability.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
It sounds something along the lines of, they said it must be Chinese before you. And everyone was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. And if you're just listening to this right now and you don't understand the context of this show and you haven't seen clips of people singing on this show, then you're going to be like, I don't understand what any of this means. But let me tell you what this means.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
They're not even recruiting based off of their singing abilities. It's just absolutely crazy. And then there was another singer by the name of Silence who goes up to sing a song that he dedicates to his mother, right? Which would have been all fine and dandy. But at one point he does like a monologue for his mom. Like he's like, I love you, mom.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Like something like that, okay? Which I feel like even if it was a love song, it's kind of... okay bringing it back to 2010's R&B that's good I like it but like the way he did it was just not confident enough and it was also again to his mom right so it was just a lot everybody looked really uncomfortable backstage so then what happens is after your performance because all of this is live
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
the host will sit down with you and they will go through their phone look up the trending things for your name and your performance and they'll have you react to people's netizens comments in real time and she keeps like tilting her phone away from the guy and he's so curious like why do you keep doing that so he leans over and the top trending phrase was silence is the worst singer
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Silence has the worst voice. Silence is a horrible singer. And he just looks really sad. And then Chinese netizens made that a meme. They memed it. Silence Wang internal monologue can't even win, but also not bad enough to leave.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
in the end he got fifth place and he seemed miserable like he seemed like he wanted to be last so he could just leave but he's still there and then when it was na ying's turn she seemed a little more confident this time but then by the end i think that she forgot the lyrics to the song So then she's like reading the teleprompter, but I think the teleprompter is moving too fast.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
So she's pointing randomly at the sky. She's like trying to follow the words like this, but she's pointing in the air like this. While she's singing and everyone was like, what the fuck's going on? And then the last contestant was Fosia. She chose Adele's Set Fire to the Rain.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I had goosebumps. Every single cell in my body came to where my skin was, to my epidermis, and was like, let me f***ing out of here. I want to set fire to the rain. It was just so beautiful. It was so beautiful. And the contrast, netizens were like, Like we want to hate them. We want to hate them because it's fun, right? Because you want to hate the opposite team. It's like the Super Bowl.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
It's all in good. Well, I don't know. People get crazy about sports, but like they want to have that beef like foreigner beef. Ooh, national pride. But they were like, no, we love her. Like she could literally pee on me and I'll say set fire to the rain. I don't care. Pee on me. You're the queen.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Ultimately, at the end, she took first place, which was not a surprise. Yeah. And Nayin got second place and Shantae secured third place. And the two singers that were eliminated were Rainie and Secondhand Rose. So a lot of people are commenting, why only eliminate two? Can't they just eliminate... Like five and just keep Fosha and Shantae because at this point, it's not even a competition.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
That means he's hinting at, they said a Chinese person has to win before you because you're not Chinese. You're not even ethnically Chinese. She's Canadian and I believe she's Moroccan. Oh, she's incredible at singing. Just you wait, right? And you know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of another clip that I'm going to insert into this YouTube video of a race in China. A very what?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And then in the third episode, they tease it. They said in the third episode, we're going to mix it up. We're going to bring in a new contestant to challenge someone here. It's going to be a one-on-one battle. And that challenger is Adam Lambert. Oh, bruh. Listen, I don't know much about Adam Lambert. I don't know the whole lore. I know all of his songs. I know a good chunk of his songs. Okay.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He was the lead singer of like a British rock band Queen. But he's so many good songs. Like, I mean, they're just timeless songs. Anyway, he won a Grammy for best male pop vocal performance. He just is so freaking talented. And once that was announced, all the Chinese netizens commented, Chinese entertainment industry, it's time to pray for yourself.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And then netizens are joking, someone get a bodyguard for Na Ying right now. Don't let her run away. 56 is the perfect age to run away and start fresh. Okay? Na Ying, the plan has changed. Get ready to compete for fourth place.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Please. At this point, netizens are not even looking for Chinese singers anymore. They're asking foreign singers to come and represent China. Okay? They went to Lana Del Rey and they said, all right, you two, come on. Okay, hurry up. Let's go. They were going to Shawn Mendes. Very random. They said, you too. The Grammys has changed its location. It's now being held in Changsha, China.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He was singing. And he posted on Douyin singing. I don't know if he's posting it. I don't know if he personally has the Douyin app on his phone. I like to believe that he does. I think so. I like to believe that Shaquille O'Neal is on Douyin. I don't know if it's his social media team. I think it's Shaquille. I think it's him pressing five buttons at once because his hand is so large.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Posting on Douyin. he was trying to get tiktok but his fingers are so large somehow he got done okay now he's just posting singing videos on there and they said not you too aren't you a basketball player and it's just naive stressed out like not you too no more foreigners please yeah so um adam lambert comes also people are saying adam lambert the things you did for our nation we love you
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
People noticed when he came to China, he was very respectful. They pulled up pictures, Chinese netizens did, and they said, this is Adam Lambert in his hometown. This is Adam Lambert at his concerts. And it's like him being Adam Lambert, okay? He's got nail polish on, he looks cool, his style is very recognizable, okay? This is Adam Lambert at an airport in some random country.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
This is Adam Lambert at an airport in Japan. This is Adam Lambert in an airport in China. Do you recognize this man?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He just looks so normal. People were saying he was trying to respect, I guess, Chinese customs of not, you know, dressing it colorfully. I don't know. Because he usually likes wearing a lot of nice colors. And then like he'll have really good. He has a very fashion forward sense. And he wasn't doing that at the airport. And so people are like, wow.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He has so much respect for us right before he destroys us.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
We love you. But please calm down. And netizens were joking. It's the Chinese limited edition well-behaved look. So he goes from the airport. He goes to eat some Chinese food and then he sings. Now people are saying, what kind of Chinese food did he eat? Turns out he went to Hunan Specialty Rice Noodle Soup Shop. Now Hunan people are very famous for eating relatively spicy food, okay?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
We talked about this. There was a race in China, a marathon race. People were running on their two legs, okay? And there were a group of foreigners that were running. And they were running really fast. And they're really good at running. And then near the end, near the finish line, suddenly, I don't know if all of them simultaneously get some sort of shared... Leg cramp? They just slow it down.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I would probably be sharting 24 seven if I had some really authentic Hunan food, right? He goes and people see they see a picture of him from afar eating with like a whole entourage. And they were like, that's Adam Lambert. And so the owner of the shop said that they did the national honor by adding extra chili oil to Adam Lambert's bowl of noodles so that he burns his throat and can't sing well.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Right. Of course, Chinese netizens were super upset. And then the owner was like, guys, I was literally just joking. OK, I'm not adding extra chilies. Are you crazy? I'm not trying to get sued. This is insane. And so it was just all in good fun. Everybody was playing into the memes, right?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
What do you mean? People are commenting, good news, the owner added lots of chili to help Na Ying by spicing up Adam's food. Bad news, the owner spiced up the wrong person. So it's not Adam Lambert, but it's Lauv, the singer that sings I Like Me Better, who happened to be in China for his concert tour.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
What? No, but also people are saying it's so funny that it's just like not another white guy. It's also another f***ing famous white guy. Like what are the odds of that? To the point where Lauv has to post a video response where he posts, he says, hey auntie, I'm actually... Hey auntie? Yeah. Auntie who?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
to the the owner of the spice restaurant and he says hey auntie i'm actually not adam lambert but thank you so much for the extra spice i didn't actually have any but my friends had it and they said it was actually very spicy but sending you lots of love and he's laughing he's being a good sport but netizens are dying they're like i'm dying after all that fuss It's not even Adam Lambert.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
It's not even Adam Lambert. It's not even Adam Lambert, but it's Lauv's team members. They say humor level of Adam eating spicy rice noodles, 100%. Humor level of spicing up the wrong person, 1,000%. Humor level of that person being Lauv, 1 trillion%. Okay, what the f***? What? Adam did indeed go eat noodles before the competition.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And then he was also just spotted casually shopping around before the competition. No nervousness at all. But the Chinese singers were nervous when they found out that it was going to be Adam Lambert. You can see all of them. Yeah. Even Na Ying is looking like she can't even catch her breath right now. So they say that all of them are going to sing against Adam Lambert.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And he's saying, what do you want from me?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
such a good song right a few things during that performance first of all nailed it chills people are crying it's not even an emotional song did you see the part that before he started singing oh i'm about to get there okay so a few things happened at the very end there's this really cute moment that chinese netizens are freaking obsessed with okay because adam lambert he's like a
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
See dude, okay, he likes to pose sexy and strike all these fun poses, okay? But when he is done with his performance, there's this moment where he turns around and I feel like he's trying to hit a sexy pose, but then he remembers that he's in China and he stops himself and the Chinese medicines think it's the cutest thing they've ever seen and they fucking love him, okay?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
In slow-mo, you see a Chinese runner just surpass all of the foreigners and win the marathon. And it is the goofiest shit that you're ever going to see. And I thought that this was going to be something like that, right? But it just gets so much worse. You've got Adam Lambert show up on this show.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
yeah it was really cute and then what's even more shocking is that the whole performance what do you want from me?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Adam lowered the key the whole key when he performed he was probably using 60 to 70 percent of his full singing capacity he performed at a lower key it's like um like he sang the same song at his concerts in the regular key the very high key and then he comes here like he's performing at his nephew's bar mitzvah You know? He's like, I'm just here for the fun.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I'm not even like trying to win, y'all. I'm just here to giggle and gaggle. Yeah, so I'm not even going to like strain myself. I'm just, I don't even need to. And people said respect. He respects the Chinese netizens so much that he sang in a restrained manner. He held back his full potential for our dignity. Yeah.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And then all the Chinese netizens said, go watch the one where he's got the lettuce flowers on his chest. That version is nice. Yeah. It's him wearing like a very elaborate brooch. It does look like a head of lettuce. Yeah, they called it the lettuce, head of lettuce version. And every Chinese citizen now knows it's the head of lettuce version.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
So what's more than that is that while another performer was up there singing, it cuts to the hostess who's in the back and she's just getting ready to interview the performer. And you hear Adam Lambert in the back.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
warming up in the bathroom i mean i think he could shatter a whole glass building with how high his voice is able to go it's so good and people were so confused what was her face reaction again She just looks like, we're fucked. Like, I don't even know if I'm supposed to acknowledge what's happening right now.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, it was pretty crazy to the point where netizens were commenting, his vocals were even higher than when he was on stage, when he was warming up in the bathroom. He really sang with his EQ. He said, I want the Chinese netizens to not be too offended. I want them to like me, so I will humble myself.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
People commented, a man just eliminated some of the top Chinese singers by warming up his vocals in the bathroom. He sang so effortlessly, even the high notes didn't require him to strain his voice at all. People said his energy, the way that he lowered it, but it was still perfection. It's like he was doing a commercial performance for an insurance company.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
You sing for, you know, like a little jingle. You're in good hands or something. What is it?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
We are farmers. I don't know. Yeah, and then people said when he opened with, hey, that's when we realized how good the sound equipment actually is. They said him just casually saying hi. That was better than all the Chinese singers. These are Chinese netizens, okay? It was crazy. And then the last contestant in the episode was Fauzia. And she sang Desert Rose.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yes.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She did like the Arabic because she's Moroccan. I don't know how to describe this song. I don't know how to describe this performance. It was emotionally enlightening. I think it changed my brain chemistry. I think the mitochondria. I think every cell. Of my being. I think the nucleus of every atom inside of me was altered by this. I think so.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, it was so good.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
So Fauzia got first place. Adam didn't even rank. He just like leaves after this episode. Yellow won second place. Shantae was third and Naing won fourth place. And so because Adam just left after one episode, he was seen at the airport afterwards. Netizens said he came all the way to China and used a nuclear bomb to blow up an ant nest.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He came to this show to sing one song and get some random Chinese singer eliminated that all Chinese citizens were like, you should have been eliminated, bro.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I'm sweating. And finally, the final competition took place July 26, 2024. It was also the eve of the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yes. And Battle of the King of Singers came to an end. This was also the time that the Kazakh singer, Dimash, seemed to have made a very, he whispered the words and then it went viral to the point where he had to clarify. He came out and emphasized that what he was whispering was not, he did not say it has to be Chinese before you, like you cannot win.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He was just saying that they were gonna pair people up to sing together and he wanted to sing with Fauzia, but they told him she's gotta sing with someone Chinese. He was saying, I said it has to be someone Chinese for you, not before you. That's what he claims. Nobody believes him. The Chinese netizen said, thank you. That was very nice of you. We don't believe you. And that's okay.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
That's not your fault. And then this is where it gets crazy. All the singers are standing on stage waiting for the host to announce the winner and everybody's facial expressions once again become a trending topic online.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
everyone seems like they know who's about to win that's the vibe to the point where before the host announced the result the singer next to na ying points at na ying to be like congratulations and na ying literally panics and does an x with her hands and pushes her hands down and both of them look incredibly awkward incredibly awkward and in the end na ying wins the title of king of singers
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She wins! She wins! I'm so confused. Another Chinese singer wins second place. And then third place is another Chinese singer. And then Fauzia wins fourth place. The other singers are not even ranked. So after the announcement, Na Ying's performance became a highlight again. Okay, she felt like she wanted to cry in excitement, but she could not.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Chinese netizens, they're going viral with this. And at the end of the competition, what do you know? A Chinese singer does win the show. Now, her name is Na Ying, and she wins the title of the King of Singers. Logically speaking and technically speaking, I will say that Na Ying has a very high status in the Chinese music industry. Her music itself, her songs, they're incredible songs.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She just looked like everybody around her was, once again, flatulent. Flatulent? Gassy. Just pooping it up. Like sharting their pants. And so, um... Netizens were not happy with this. They were saying, I mean, she has exposed all of her weaknesses. She was very nervous. She was out of tune most of the time. Her voice was always shaking. And now she wins first place. That doesn't even make sense.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
What are you talking about? And Fauzia, she never fell out of the top three in the past season. And she unexpectedly ranked fourth in the finals. People were making Excel spreadsheets to show how the probability isn't probability-ing. None of this is making any f***ing sense. They were saying that she could have gotten into f***ing Tsinghua University, MIT, Harvard.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
But then you said, nah, she's going here. That doesn't even make any sense. What is happening right now? People started saying, Na Ying is not the king of singers. She's the best actor. She needs to win Best Actor Award.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
with all of this na ying did some interviews and she responded in an interview if you win the championship there will definitely be a lot of negativity can you be brave enough to accept it i can i know what happened here i want to thank myself and i want to thank every singer that is present whoa yeah and when she was asked which singers do you think should come for the next season she replied do they dare come
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And people who are not having a fun time with that. Another singer, veteran singer, Jenny, T-S-E-N-G. She was friends with Coco Lee.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, she tweeted. She was on Weibo saying she really didn't like the show. She said she has no respect for the show. And she, with a lot of other veteran singers, felt this way. They felt really shitty for the foreign singers. They said they paid foreigners to be manipulated and played around with the media when they clearly should have won.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
You paid them here to get the views, and then they didn't even win based on merit. It just wasn't fair.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
yeah but i do have to say yeah they won everyone's heart in china like they are obsessed yeah this actually made them even more loved yeah yeah everyone's rooting for them yeah everybody loves them i hope they release like albums in chinese or something oh there's so many fans now they're so good and people she was even asking this celebrity jenny was asking naing listen to your own singing aren't you embarrassed you're humiliating yourself by being brave enough to accept the victory
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah. And then the show itself made an announcement that said music cannot deceive people. Music cannot be deceived. Like she was the clear winner. And netizens were also confused about that. They said, yes, music does not lie, but the production team does. They said, well done singing competition. Let's not do it again.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
okay let's not do it again yeah that's the show that's what's happened what are your thoughts on this wow what a journey and again i want to clarify chinese netizens loved the foreign singers every single one of them they were eating them up for breakfast lunch and dinner i think they were just making these it was honestly some hilarious memes that were coming out of it just hilarious yeah so good
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
so good insane now i gotta listen to those songs again go listen to them go stream their music and i hope you guys enjoyed and i'll see you in the next one bye
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
However, however, many netizens are very upset that she is labeled the king of singers. They are criticizing Na Ying and saying that she might actually be one of the worst singers in this season's show. So how the fuck is she the king of singers? People were commenting, this has got to be the biggest scandal in history. Always ranking at the bottom and occasionally making it to the top three.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Singing off key, forgetting lyrics can win the title of king of singers. They're treating us, the audience, like fools for months.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
He has a Ziploc bag full of ice that is under his shirt. It's practically in his groin. It's up his pants. It's in places that I've never seen before. That's all I have to say about that ice pack. Whoa, it's melted.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yes, I asked.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Okay, so I was like listening to Na Ying on this show. And Tiffany comes over and she goes, oh my God. She's shaking her head no, right? And I said, so like who is Na Ying in American standards? And she goes, before this, I would say like Celine Dion. And I said, what about now? And she was just like, I don't know what to tell you right now because it just gets so bad.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
So she was like the Celine Dion, I guess.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Highly respected.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah. I mean, I'm going to go through the whole show's rules and regulations. The show is actually a South Korean NBC show that they adapted into the Chinese version. And it's called I Am A Singer. And what they do is they only bring in professional singers who have already made a name for themselves. This is a competition of imagine getting Ariana Grande on.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I feel like I'm going to start some shit.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
All on stage competing for the king of singers. That's what this show is. And this started in 2013 in China. And I will say in the beginning, it was rough. It was rough. They would invite foreigners over, but... In 2020, the show would end after eight seasons. They were declining in viewership. Nothing really was happening except 2024.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Out of fucking nowhere, they announced that they're going to redo a show. They're going to do the ninth season of the show after a four-year hiatus. And now it's going to be hosted on Mango TV.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Do I need to file a copyright? No, just kidding. Infringing on my intellectual property? No, I'm just kidding. So in 2023, they start scheduling and they start promoting the crap out of this show. And they say, guys, guys, this time we're about to make it insane. So here's the thing about CPOP. Here's the thing about Chinese celebrities and influencers that I've noticed thus far.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
You're not going to believe it based off of what we talk about on the Chinaverse. But it's kind of like Korea in terms of everybody is extra polished.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
There was a clip that was going viral. And this clip just sent me down a rabbit hole. And I still think about this clip every two to three business days. And it is a world-renowned, intelligent, beautiful, fascinating, so talented singer, Chantal Moore, on stage, on one of the most grandest stages I've seen. The set production of this is out the window.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Like, you know, when you see East Asian celebrities, they're just so polished.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
what does that mean like they're just so put together oh they're very put together you know you have some of like the ogs that will goof around on stage when they're performing and singing songs but a lot of the times a lot of the artists pride themselves in being perfectionists and they don't like they're really um polished that's how tiffany was explaining it to me right um okay okay
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And a lot of them lip sync. Sorry. Sorry. That's where I was going with this. A lot of them lip sync because it's very, do you know how difficult it is?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
to deliver a splendid performance, working on your visuals, your aesthetics, not looking like you're choking like a dog on a fresh bite of kibble, and then dancing whilst singing, belching out the highest chords of a song that you, you know, wrote 20 years ago and you don't remember the lyrics to, really. So yes, lip syncing, I... I don't really have beef with lip syncing.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Do I think if I go to a concert and they're lip syncing, I'd be a little disappointed? Perhaps, yeah, depending on how much I paid for the concert. However, I feel like some people think lip syncing is like Satan's creation on this planet. A lot of them lip sync. So this is why this show becomes big. Because in 2023, they say, hey, it's gonna be live streamed. No one's gonna lip sync.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
There's not gonna be any perfection. Everything is gonna be so cutthroat, so raw, so real. It's gonna be, you're never gonna see your faves like this. This is the first time you're going to see something like this happen. So everybody starts freaking out. They start, who's going to be on that show? The show starts releasing these posters, these teasers.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
They're just releasing little names here and there. They hit them with the, you might know, you might know this name. Rosé.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
You might know this name. Lisa. Lisa. what you're kidding me but they were not on there is that what you think maybe you didn't see yeah rose lisa it's gonna be a celebrity lineup that you have never seen before international celebrities are gonna be flown into china for this
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
show this is about to be the biggest fucking show that you have ever laid your eyes on everybody was stayed tuned everything is going to be live streamed everything on the teleprompters live stream not a second of it is going to be edited cut nothing it's all raw it's all live may 10th the day of the first episode release everybody's sitting there blinks
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Blinks are sitting there in China like, hello, where's my rose? And they say, we would like to proudly announce the next contestant on the show. Secondhand Rose. Say.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
That's the band name.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Okay. It's a Chinese rock band.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
now they're old so they changed it's the second generation yeah okay and i'm just kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding and lisa lisa l-i-s-a we would like to announce proudly announce that all of our audio equipment the brand is from l slash isa Yeah, top quality. You're never going to get high quality audio experiences.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
They released the teaser that Lisa is going to be involved on the show. Shut the fuck up. You say the name Lisa. Who the fuck are you imagining? I don't know any other Lisa. I probably know 10 Lisa's personally, but I'm not going to think of them. I'm thinking of Lisa from Blackpink.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And she is doing a cover of a very famous song. Of a very famous song that you know, I know, we both love the song. Adele. And she starts whipping out the chorus and she says, Ni hao from the other side.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
They say Lisa is going to be involved. That's so funny. And then in the opening, they say all of our audio equipment is from a brand called L-I-S-A, otherwise known as Lisa. What the fuck is happening? So there's going to be seven singers, five are Chinese singers who are really well known amongst the Chinese audiences.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
And then they're bringing in two foreign singers that were announced to appear on the show. You've got 24 year old Moroccan Canadian singer and songwriter Fosia and 57 year old Grammy nominated American singer songwriter Shantae Moore. Now, I will say many Chinese viewers were unfamiliar with the two foreign singers.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
because I think even in Korea like you have maybe a Handful of Western singers that are super famous like household names any random person you you ask the ajumma on the street and you say ajumma ni Do you know who this person is right if it's not Beyonce or Taylor Swift? She's gonna be like, I don't know this person. Who is this person? Is that the president? We don't know these people.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Okay, and they would just keep it moving. They'd probably stare at you weird and So they've got these two foreign singers and everyone, all the Chinese netizens, because Na Ying is on this show. They start joking. The winner is already decided. It's going to be our girl Na Ying. Have you heard her sing? Like, she's crazy. She is one of the most famous OGs. I mean, oh, she's incredible.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She's only one year younger than Shantae.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Yeah, 55. Shante Morris, 56. Which, by the way, both of them look max like 35. It's crazy. She is one of the most recognized female vocalists, particularly famous for her explosive. That's how they describe her. Like she's just explosive.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
explosive lungs and she's known as the queen of pop she's known as like a diva in the chinese pop music history she has been in the industry for over 30 years i'm telling you like celine dion is what tiffany said she also was a judge on the voice of china so she's been judges on these singing competitions and now she's coming in as a contestant it's not even it's not
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Everyone in the comments is like, Na Ying, you got it in the bag. You don't even have to be nervous about any of this. Now the show finally begins and the host seems very nervous because everything is being live streamed. Everything is raw, unedited, live. And at the very beginning of the show, they even make a verbal slip up. They say, drink singer, watch Jian Chun.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Oh, I mean, watch singer, drink Jian Chun. Diantune is a yogurt brand that's sponsoring the show. So this little mistake goes viral because they're like, oh, the show is absolutely being live streamed. It's so real. Look at the hostess and host. They're so nervous that they mess up the lines of the show. But then there were some audience members that were there at the production date.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Next Generation of MAGA Heroes — Exclusive Interview with Rep. Byron Donalds
Hey, I'm Stephanie from Michigan, and we flipped a Democratic seat to Republican with Tom Barrett.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Next Generation of MAGA Heroes — Exclusive Interview with Rep. Byron Donalds
Correct. And he's an excellent guy. He was at many events that I got to speak intimately with him. He was very sweet. How can we make sure we hold him accountable, but making sure we don't fall back into the blue side in that region of Lansing?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Hey, Dr. John, how are you?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
I'm doing well, thank you. I mean, I'm calling you, but I'm doing good.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
All right, well, um... First, I want to say thank you to you and George for the public service that you guys did at Dainey's a few weeks ago. That was incredible.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
No way! I was there and it was awesome. Y'all were amazing.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Oh, good. Good to know. I'll try to be there.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Okay. Good deal. So I'm going to give you a little bit of a backstory. I'll try to make it quick. And then if you need more, just let me know.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Okay. Good deal. So about 10 years ago, currently I'm not married. I am divorced. But 10 years ago, I was a homeschooling military wife and I had five kids at the time. And we had moved to a new duty station. I had signed up at a homeschool co-op and very quickly made one of the dearest friends I've ever had in my entire life. And she was my ride or die, call it 2 a.m. type friend.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
We did everything together. Sometimes the dads would join in, but usually the stuff we did was during the day. So it was usually us and the kids. And because we were military, we quickly moved. but she and I would keep in touch. And fast forward to about four years ago, she got a cancer diagnosis. And then shortly after that, I actually filed for divorce. It was a very abusive marriage.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
And so our grief journeys kind of overlapped a little bit. And early last summer, Actually, the day after my divorce was finalized, she lost her battle with cancer.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
So talk about a range of emotions there.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Yeah. Yeah. It was a hard 24 hours. 24 hours? Well, just a shock, I guess. Okay, there you go.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
No, it was a lot more than 24 hours. Okay, so fast forward to a few weeks ago. I got a Facebook friend request from her husband who had recently gotten on Facebook. And so I accepted it. We started talking. Oh, yeah. Oh, no.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Okay. So it started out as he just wanted someone to kind of sit with him in his grief. And I was like, yes, I'm all in a hundred percent. So then it kind of shifted to, I started thinking, okay, is, is he interested in something more than just talking? Like what, what's going on? So instead of mulling over it in my head, I thought, you know what, I'm just going to ask him and dive right in. So.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Hey, hold on, Stephanie.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Yes. Oh, gosh. Okay. So did your heart start beating fast?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
My heart did start beating fast, but I was also freaking out like, oh, crap, me too. Oh, no. God, sweet. How many kids does he have? He has four, and I have six.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Sheesh. Okay, so here's my question. Obviously, if we continue on, I don't want to officially do anything until we've passed the year mark of my divorce and his wife's passing, especially for the kids' sakes. I don't want to mention anything to them.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Yeah, actually.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
How do we purposely... walk through that because I am about going through it slow actually. And I've, I told him that last week. Um, and yeah, I guess I just want to know the steps that we do need to take and we're actually meeting. I haven't seen him in like 10 years and we're going to meet halfway in a few days and just be around each other.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Yeah. No, that was good. Just have intentional time together. And so I would just, yeah, I would love some, some advice from you on that.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
They range from 7 to 18.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Yeah. Yeah, for real.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
No, not at all. Because the last week or so, I've actually been like, oh no, I don't know if this is right. But yet... you know, is it my alarms and bells going off because I'm used to so much pain and, you know, so I've been kind of going back and forth with that. And he's actually been very gracious and he's backed off a little bit.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Um, but we still think it's fair to move, not move forward, but just continue talking and just see and just have fun and just see what it's what it's like. Cause this is brand new and it is scary in a lot of ways, but you know, I just, I don't know what's going to happen. And so I'm trying to tell myself to just relax. I'm not committing to anything.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Um, just by seeing him, it may work out and it may not. And that's okay. So everything you said is exactly what I needed to hear. So thank you.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Well, thankfully, he's not military. Oh, he's not? Okay. No, that is a plus right there.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Wife Had an Affair Because She Doesn’t Find Me Attractive
Okay. All right. So we're getting out.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
I'm good. I'm freezing cold up here, but that's okay.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
Oh, well, thanks. Okay, so here's my predicament. I am in a relationship with a guy that is, he's great and I love him to death, but he has a very different
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
love language than me he's really really physically affectionate and that's not to say I don't like physical affection and that's a huge problem it's just that it's it's a lot he's really really physically affectionate and I what does that mean?
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
So I will just be sitting there trying to work because sometimes I work from home. We both sometimes work from home and I'll be sitting there trying to work and he's constantly kind of like grabbing me, hugging me from behind. He keeps kissing me on my cheek and I'm not trying to sound ungrateful.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
Like I feel like I'm sounding ungrateful, but it just, it's not my love language and it really doesn't. it can be so overwhelming sometimes. Like it's just too much. I'll come home from work and I'm really happy to see him, but then it's just constantly, he needs to just be holding onto me and showering me with physical affection.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
And I just like, I need to just sit down for half an hour and decompress. Like I had maybe had a stressful day.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
Well, it's either one of two reactions. So either he kind of gets, hurt and huffy and just goes away and leaves me alone and he's just upset and hurt or he will say oh okay and then he'll keep doing it but then oh yeah you don't want me to touch you i forgot and god dude what a bad baby you're you're dating a toddler you know that right I don't, I don't, he's just like, he's hurting over that.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
He's normally more mature. Like he's normally quite.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
Yeah, I mean, I do kind of, but I also think he means well. It doesn't matter.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
I mean, well, that's just the way I feel. It's not how he feels.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
Well, I mean, how do I differentiate then? Like what is normal loving? How do I, I don't want him to feel hurt. I'm not trying to be a jerk.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
I mean, yeah, it can be a lot, especially after a stressful day.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
So how do I then, so I mean, a loving relationship, it requires obviously some physical affection and love. How do I navigate that in a way that it works for both of us if we both just have different needs?
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
Yeah. I do kind of get that sense from him a little bit. He's maybe a little bit more anxious.
The Dr. John Delony Show
I’m Shocked by My Husband’s Confession
Yeah. I mean, I, I guess so. I just, I, I, I do want to be able to have him feel loved in the relationship as well. I don't want it to just, I don't know, be all what,
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
I got a phone call one afternoon from a husband who was deployed to Afghanistan. His tone was very serious when I picked up the phone. It scared me because that was not an unusual time for him to call me. And he said, hon, he said, there's this baby.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
She is gracious and kind and amazingly resilient for what she's been through.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
She loves to play outside. She loves her baby dolls. She wants to be a doctor when she grows up. She has hope in what she wants to do. She has ideas. She's a breath of fresh air in our home.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
She suffered a fractured skull, a compound fracture to her left leg, multiple fragmentation wounds down her leg, and second-degree burns on her face and neck.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
Here is this orphan that has no one to stand up for it.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
And when I finally got to see her in person, I was shocked. I couldn't believe it was her. In fact, I questioned inwardly, could that possibly be her? Because her eyes were no longer big, round, and happy. She was closed off and guarded, and she had a scowl. And she looked...
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
scared frightened and obviously with what she just went through that was that was understandable but it was different she had lice she had parasites a lot of trauma and just emotional just adjustments that had to take place for her to feel safe and secure and the best way to do that was just to love on her and give her everything that we had and that's exactly what we did life finally settled but she loves school
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
Four, five, plus one more equals six.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
When you consider her past, when you see her in the day-to-day, it's incredible how normal she is. She is just like any other little girl.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
She, right now, she's loved, she's secure, she has a family, she has a future. And that would all be taken away from her. She would be absolutely devastated. And I don't want to see that shell of a little girl that I saw in Germany back again. And it has taken... a lot of time and pouring into her to see her be this vibrant girl that she is today.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
And for that to be ripped away from her, it would absolutely destroy her.
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and Mel Robbins on How to Calm Anxiety
I had to come to that point in my life to where it became that. Of course, when it first showed up in my life when I was six years old, I didn't know what was going on. I did have some stressors that were going on that were out of my control, which I think contributed to the anxiety showing up. I think I was also predisposed. I come from a long line of anxiety. anxious women.
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and Mel Robbins on How to Calm Anxiety
But, you know, I had to push myself to do things, you know, that shouldn't have been hard. And I remember having conversations with myself at such a young age saying, OK, I'm either going to let this conquer me and I'm going to just lie down and, you know, give up or I'm going to have to push through and really show what I'm made of because it was bad.
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and Mel Robbins on How to Calm Anxiety
So I started viewing it as my superpower because I knew that I was going to have to look at it that way or it was going to destroyed me. You know, I started taking medication in my late 20s to help with my anxiety, and it was a game changer. I have a 12-year-old daughter now who two weeks ago we made the difficult but very necessary decision to put her on anxiety medication as well.
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and Mel Robbins on How to Calm Anxiety
And my question is, what conversation should I have with her about this? And what should I share with her about my journey With anxiety.
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and Mel Robbins on How to Calm Anxiety
Well, you know, we are going through the not wanting to go to school, the stomach aches. About two months ago, the school called and said, you know, you've got to come get her. She was in class, felt like she got in trouble and couldn't get it together.
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and Mel Robbins on How to Calm Anxiety
Yes. And she's taught me so much through this. And I am just so thankful for you guys and talking about this because it's a lonely place to be. whenever you struggle with anxiety.
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and Mel Robbins on How to Calm Anxiety
And I think I didn't talk to her about it and I haven't really, you know, gotten in depth talking to her about it because in some crazy way, I thought I was protecting her because if I didn't give her the idea that this could be an issue, it wouldn't happen to her. You know, and this wasn't happening. She just had an episode. Well, now you know better.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
Hi, I'm good, Dave and Rachel. How are you both?
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
I am a... About 25 minutes away from Boston, Massachusetts. Awesome.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
About $105,000. Way to go, kiddo. Excellent. How long did this take you? Three years and eight months.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
So I started at about $60,000 and I ended at $115,000. Excellent. And what do you do for a living? So I work for a hospital, I'm a manager in IT.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
So it was everything, Dave. About $360 was medical. I had $3,100 in a car loan, $6,200 personal loan, $7,000 in credit card debt, and the biggest was my student loans. It was about $88,000. Wow.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
Okay. So it took me 18 years to get here. But so 2018, like I said, I'd been struggling for many years. And, you know, I'd really have been praying and asking God to really help me because I never knew how to budget, just was out of control, didn't know what to do. So September 2018, I was home on maternity leave.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
I had my third child and I was actually searching for sermons really to watch on YouTube. And then in my feed, it came, this couple video came up and the title was Dave Ramsey ruined our lives. And so I never saw the couple before, never watched them ever. And I never heard your name. So but it was a pretty, you know, good looking couple, sharp couple. So I decided to watch.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
And they proceeded to say how, you know, they said from the time they started your program, they weren't. getting out of debt. I mean, you know, selling things left and right, living on rice and beans, not going out, just, you know, making sacrifices to live the life that they wanted to live ultimately. And so I, you know, and I believe it was divine connection. I believe God led me to that video.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
And so as I was watching, I said, wow, like they can do it. I can do it too. So I started searching for you on YouTube. Um, at that time, I just saw a lot of the short videos, the seven to 10 minute clips. I didn't know you had a show. Um, but I just started digging into those, learned about these, you know, the seven baby steps I learned about, you know, just what you teach, what you practice.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
And it all made sense. Um, like I said, I was on maternity leave. So I only had, I was making half of my income at the time. Um, because I was, it was just using my vacation time to try and spread the time out. Um, So I downloaded the EveryDollar app and I couldn't really start the budget until October. That's when I went back to work. But I had the budget in place.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
I listened to Rachel Cruz and all the material that you guys put out there and tried to do my budget as best I could. And so once I went back to work in October, my budget was set and I pretty much hit the ground running. I initially started out, I was, you know, picking up Instacart shifts, you know, even with sometimes my little kids in the car, my daughter.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
I would work full time during the day and I picked up a temp agency job, you know, at the evening. So we were home. It was during COVID. So, you know, kids running around in the background, but I'm doing a temp agency job. And I also, you know,
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
delivered pizza for Domino's, um, you know, a short while, uh, fast forward to 2020, December, 2020, I, um, interviewed and got a, got a position at another hospital. So that jumped me up in my pay, um, about 20,000 and the next year, 2021, about November, I got a promotion to manager. So in that jumped me up as well. So that has been my journey up, you know, through 2018 to now. Wow.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
He worked your tail off, kiddo. I was. And you know what? I believed in the vision. I believed what you taught. And from that first, paying off that first credit card, just seeing how free, how a little bit of space in my budget. And I said, wow, this really works.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
And I was determined, regardless of what people said, I was determined that I was going to do it, not just for myself and my kids, to leave a legacy. And that's really why I kept going.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
Yeah. Well, in perseverance, but I think the biggest thing is a mindset change. You know, people that I talk to and I share my journey with, they're happy for me. But, you know, a lot of what I hear is, you know, you'll never be out of debt. You're always going to have debt.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
And by soaking myself into your show, you know, listening, watching all the death-free screams that have come across the stage. You know, watching the everyday millionaire, you know, like listening to all these people that have done it and they live debt free. It is possible.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
So I think it requires a mindset shift, you know, being around different people, listening, but realizing that it is possible, but also perseverance. I mean, regardless of what comes. I mean, I had life happen during those three and, you know, eight months. So, yeah. But it's perseverance, being willing to persevere through and trusting God in the process.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
Because once you've committed to it, he will see you through the end.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
I would say a little bit of everybody. I mean, my mom is here, my family, they all supported me through this journey. My coworkers at work, at the time when I could pick up on call shifts, they would know I was on this journey. And so they would, you know, help me out, you know, send me there on call shifts. But I think the biggest one is my oldest daughter.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
Um, during COVID, she was my babysitter when I had to pick up the shifts. She was my babysitter and she sacrificed a lot, but she knew what we were after. She knew the reason why we sacrificed and she was willing to delay gratification for a season so that we could be here today, you know, and become debt free.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
So I would say she's my biggest out of, out of everyone, my biggest supporter, my biggest cheerleader.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
Amazing. I cash flowed this trip here. It wasn't cheap. But I didn't stress. The money's there. It's absolutely amazing. And I wouldn't trade anything for the world. I would do it again if I had to.
The Ramsey Show
Stop Letting Money Conflicts Tear Your Relationships Apart
So I have Sanaya. Sanaya is 15 years old. Emanuela, she is five. And my youngest one, Atara, she's three years old. All right.
This American Life
361: Fear of Sleep
Got in my ear twice. And when I got in my boyfriend's ear, we had to go to the emergency room.
This American Life
361: Fear of Sleep
I started putting tissue in my ear, so they can't bother me as much. But, yeah, it was hard to go to sleep. They crumb on the beat. I didn't like it. Yeah, it was hard. It was very hard. Because it was a lot.