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Sophie Thatcher

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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapus. It is the Monday after Coachella and I don't feel my very best. And honestly, I barely attended the festival. If we're just being quite honest with you, I went for a little bit on Friday and then I really gave it my all on Saturday to the point where I couldn't make it Sunday. So I had to go home. I took like a nap that was like so biblical today.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's also, as a viewer, so cool. They're so – having the show based in the past and the future and having the past be so unaccounted for, kind of, as the viewer, you don't really know what happened. Yeah. there's so much room for like creativity and like the writer's room as to what actually goes down up until that pilot episode in the present, you know, like anything could have happened.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I just think that's so cool. Like there's endless possibilities.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

or whatever, but then every time I do that, the person I go on the date with inevitably sends me this, and they're like, what do you, what, what? Like, what are you talking, like, you know what I mean?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's not like based on a book or anything, is it? No, it's not. It's not.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, oh, of course the scientists come. No, like what? It's crazy. What's the craziest theory you've seen that you're like, oh, come on?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Something to take from a show about a woman crashing into a forest and then eating each other.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

My God. Like, I have chills thinking about that. Yeah, exactly. I was like. Moving on. I am being perceived. Oh, it's the worst. Yeah. Okay. You said something about, like, it felt like being in an audition back in that courtroom scene. And that got me thinking about, is it true that you auditioned for Yellow Jackets off of self-tape and you, like, read lines off a computer? Oh, God. Is that true?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, it's super, it gets, becomes super fucking awkward, and I can't decide if that's just something they're gonna have to deal with, and, like, the right person will deal with that and think it's sweet, or I wait until after. So I have a date this week. It's essentially what I'm trying to say. I have a date on, oh, Like, I really want to tell you guys, but I don't want them to find out.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Please tell me everything.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You didn't even call back nothing?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Dude, I've never seen such incredible younger versus older casting ever.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

younger versus older van.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, they look so much alike.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, you and Juliet specifically also have that.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, my God, I know.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I know. One thing I always get so, um... I think what the show does so well is it kind of makes you feel like you're in psychosis.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So on tonight's episode, we have Sophie Thatcher, who is the star of Yellow Jackets, which has been one of my favorite shows since it came out when I was a senior in college. For those that don't know, I'm sure many of you know, but for those that don't know, it is about a

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, you know what I mean? It's like, oh my God, wait. And I think that's what it does so well. It's like, is there a supernatural thing going on? Like, no, there can't be. Like, have we just as viewers been in the woods for so long as well?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, the show is so immersive and I think it's so cool.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I mean, it's funny because we have the answer from the opening scene of season one. Which is what people... That's all the talk. Which is all the talk and what people wanted the whole time. But it's like... At that point, it felt so much... It's so interesting, because when we first see that, we aren't attached to a single character yet.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

We're so, like, come on, who is it? Who is it? Yeah. And then it's so much more sad. I know.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, especially through the third season.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Was there, okay, so do you guys do like a table read for each episode?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's about a soccer team that is flying to a tournament and that plane crashes in the middle of the wilderness and they get stranded and they eat each other. But it's also about much more than that. It's very camp. It's very, it's amazing. It's like seriously one of my favorite shows. It's so, oh my God, I'm just obsessed with it. And this season was honestly so amazing.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Was there ever like something in the script that you and everyone was like, oh my God, like also kind of gagged by? Like, do you remember a moment of like all texting each other being like, holy fuck, I can't believe this.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, that was so. And they prolonged it for so long. They really did. They really did. And it's almost like you felt it with him. Like, okay, at this point, just fucking kill him.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You're like, just fucking kill him.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I think there was just, there was, this season showed so much of Nat's humanity and it was so cathartic to see. Like, you know what I mean? They're like, oh, like in a, in a, in a show kind of full, filled with like a lot of antiheroes and a lot of like bad.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's, um, so it was so fascinating. nice to have one person that just like never let the viewer down ever. I want to cry.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No, and even as a viewer, I know I keep saying that, but I felt such emotion watching Natalie this season and watching... Just, like, her make all these tough decisions against the group.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, how hard is that?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Because all they have is each other and, like... Yeah. Oh, my God, when you handed the knife, like, all these things, like, you were just... You were the catalyst in making all these really important decisions. Mm-hmm. And I was, like, saying to, like, Louise, like, before you got here, I was like, oh, my God, like...

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Sophie Thatcher played such a big part in why I love this season so much. So being able to like sit down and talk to her was so incredible. I also think she's just like, So amazing in general. She released her debut EP last year called Pivot and Scrape. She is in the new movie Companion. Like she is doing so much. She's so talented. And I'm so happy I got to get to know her more.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I don't know how I'm going to separate her from her character being like, it was just, I want to like worship everything you do. Like it was, you were perfect.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh my God. I got chills. I got chills.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I was like, wait, fuck you. Fuck you.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, she is. She is. When that, when she is a fucking queen, she is a queen. She is a queen. Sophie. Props to her for like that quick turn. Cause you go from feeling like really bad, even though she's like doing some shitty things. It's like that full, I've ever seen Breaking Bad.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Okay, you gotta watch Breaking Bad. I haven't seen The Wire, so I can't speak for The Wire, but Breaking Bad's one of my favorite shows of all time. And there is this, you know, he's doing all these bad things. He's kind of this anti-hero, but there's this moment in the show where he breaks bad, essentially, and becomes this- He breaks bad? Breaking bad? No, but he becomes this true villain.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And I feel like Shawna had her Breaking Bad moment this season and became the villain. You know, with the help of Hannah. Yeah. With the help from Hannah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Okay. And in addition to Yellow Jackets, you were also a musician. Yeah. You just released your debut EP, Yellow Jackets University, AP. Sorry, that was so cringe that I said that. AP, Pivot and Scrape, congratulations.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Do you enjoy making music more or acting or is it just different? I know it's such a tough question.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So it's so intimate, so personal. Yellow Jackets isn't your story.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Who are some of the musicians you look up to?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more if you don't already. So yeah. I go back on the road May 16th. I begin in San Francisco. To find out if I'm coming to a city near you, go to passthatpuss.com and click live with Jake Shane. To submit a tell me what's wrong, go to passthatpuss.com. Click tell me what's wrong. And leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No, but you're complimenting them. I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I understand. It's a social anxiety.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's a social anxiety. I 100% get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you are complimenting them. Yeah, exactly.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like for acting.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

What type of projects do you typically lean towards? Because I feel like you're in mostly, like, not... I'm doing horror.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

What do you feel like are some of the most important lessons you've learned thus far, like from Yellow Jackets, from Companion, from your projects, essentially?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Enjoy tonight's episode. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today we have on one of my favorite actresses and also musician. She just released her debut EP, Pivot and Scrape. She is the star in this season of Yellow Jackets and all seasons of Yellow Jackets. I just obviously can't speak. And she is in the new film Companion with Jack Quaid and Lucas Gage, Sophie Thatcher.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Right. Cause this was like your first, it was my first project.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah. It's hard. It's, it's sometimes difficult. I feel like, especially in your twenties to learn that like easy doesn't mean you silent.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Do you, did you and Juliet talk, do you still talk a lot?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

She has so much. Was it hard to shoot without her?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did she kind of serve as a mentor for you in that space?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So, Cass, I am partnering with SeatGeek, and they are offering me plus one to the Elvis reunion tour, and I'm bringing you, and they're going to fly us to Vegas, and it's going to be amazing, and we're going to meet Elvis.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Are you down for that?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Two weeks. Are you down?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's right after I leave New York.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Have you ever seen Elvis?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh my god, sorry. I was actually panicking that I was going to get one of those wrong and I was going to have to redo that and it was going to be super awkward.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No, I'm not fucking with you.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You didn't know he died?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, Cass, SeatGeek is one of the number one ticket partners in the entire world. If you use my code THERAPIST10, you get 10% off your ticket order. So while we can't see Elvis, maybe we can see someone else this summer on SeatGeek. Right. Right. All tickets are rated on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being not so good, 10 being the best. So, yeah, maybe we can find another show to see together.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No worries. While I am not going to see Elvis with Cassidy, I am still going to use SeatGeek to see one of the many, many, many artists on tour this summer. For example, I missed Gaga at Coachella this week or this weekend. So I am going to definitely use SeatGeek to see the Mayhem tour. I am so, so, so excited. I need to get out of the house.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Live music is seriously one of my favorite things in the entire world. Not only do they have music, they have comedy, they have plays, they have literally anything you can imagine. The SeatGeek app is free to download and super, super easy to use. I mean, tonight I could see the Sacramento Kings. I could see the Rock Orchestra by Candlelight. I could see literally anybody I want, okay?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Thank you. How are you?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I could see Mamma Mia. I can see Kevin Hart. I'm going to click that I need two tickets. So it's going to say the ticket price for each ticket and then the score next to the ticket. So this says 10, amazing deal. And then like down here it says nine. So it seems like there's really just only good tickets on here. Oh, see, this is with a one. This is not such a good deal.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

But the SeatGeek app is literally the easiest thing to use. You guys know I came through for you again. Use code THERAPIST10 for 10% off your order on SeatGeek.com. That's 10% off tickets with promo code THERAPIST10 at SeatGeek.com. Make sure you click the link in the description so you can download the app and automatically have the code applied to your account so you can use it later.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring tonight's episode. What are you therapist about?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

What are you angry about?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Okay. So today is a little more superficial. Today I was working out and. Good for you. I don't work out. And I like lifting weights to the treadmill, but I did one last thing. That sent me over the edge. I never have panic attacks ever. Really?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I do, I do. Oh, they're the worst. Yeah, they sure are. And I had one today after, yes, after I, so I pushed myself too hard and then I got really nauseous and then I started panicking about how nauseous I was and then I got really hot and then I couldn't feel my hands and I was like, oh my God, I'm having a panic attack. And I had to run outside and lay down. And it was so embarrassing.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, I just felt so embarrassed. No.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

My second. My first one was the most random story you'll ever hear in your entire life.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Somebody was telling a story about someone taking Viagra. And, like, the idea of somebody... Taking Viagra and just like having a situation that like couldn't go down. You were like, God. Gave me like a panic attack and I ran outside the restaurant. I was like, and my best friend Alice was like, what's wrong? And I was like, Viagra story. Like, I think I'm having a panic attack.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And those are the only two times I've ever had a panic attack.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Once about Viagra, once in the aloe jam.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah. Well, Louise was like, you know, she grew up in Lake Forest. And I was like, like Lake Forest, Illinois. And she was like, yeah. I was like, wait, that's Brett's hometown.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Question for you. I don't know why this just reminded me of this because maybe it's because I always watch TV when I go to bed, but what do you watch it? I always ask my guests that. I always...

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Okay, I just started it.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yes, and the woman from The White Lotus, I think Carrie Coon is on it, and she is incredible. She's so good. She's such a character actor. You need to watch The Leftovers.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, she's incredible. She's incredible in the white lotus too.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I don't know if you've ever had like a friend group like that, but like, Oh, I'm like watching it.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, I've been in trios like that.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No. And, and like all like Louise would be like, girl, Who would you be out of the trio? You're everyone.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I was never Jacqueline. I was Leslie. Leslie's, in my opinion, the messiest out of all three of them. Jacqueline acts, does what she does. Carrie Coon's character is like... You know, she says it like it is. Yeah. And then Leslie's character is the one whispering in Jacqueline's ear and Carrie's ear. She is.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I would argue that she's the most. Yes, because she wants to maintain that, like, equilibrium.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I don't even know why I attempted that fucking word. But, yeah, she wants to, like, maintain her place. But she wants to, like... Like, be the one that each of them are closest with.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, obsessed with Amy.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Do you like the caramel mix?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah. You know what? I really noticed it with Amy in the last episode where she... Are you caught up? Yeah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Do you remember the episode or this moment where the French girl is trying to convince Patrick Schwarzenegger's character to stay with her and the guy? And Amy's like, all right, babe. Good night. So casual, but just like she stole the scene. Exactly.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, the cheddar.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's kind of like you watch Abbott Elementary.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You got to watch Abbott. It's like Principal Ava. Like she steals the scene.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Everything she's in.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I was a cartoon person as like a kid. I loved like Studio Ghibli and I love.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

There are no Boy Scouts, right?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No, no, no, Spirited Away is definitely the most famous, but then Totoro is like the kind of, the other one.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

What's it about? I've never seen it.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Wait, do they still do Boy Scouts?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Did you learn a lot about AI while doing Companion? Yeah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It makes it so easy. I wonder how kids – I mean how can you – I mean there must – there's going to be – I wonder if there is checkers to see if things are AI because like how are kids not just cheating on everything?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

There are still Girl Scouts. I bought fucking cookies from some girl the other day at the Burwood Country Mart.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh my God, I cheated on everything. Wait, I posted.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I cheated like a motherfucker and I posted on my story yesterday. I responded to someone being like, I'm really anxious about cheating. And I said, well, I cheated on everything and I never felt bad. I was like, no guilt. My high school teacher swiped up with a sad face. Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

My long-term boyfriend and I broke up a little less than one year ago. He also happened to break up with me when I was going through the worst point in my life. He started hooking up with another girl like a week after we broke up, and I found out that they're dating now. Interesting. I know I'm up and that I turned out better for it, but I still have a hard time moving on slash getting over it.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Help me. Have you ever been through a breakup? Of course. Okay, I have not.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, they sell the Girl Scout cookies at Bristol Farms now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your go-to grocery store?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

They just said long term.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Right. Has that ever happened to you?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So that is something we always miss from the pussies. We always miss context.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And, like, you know, we don't know much. But, like, do you have any... like musical suggestions or movie or TV show suggestions that'll help them get through it.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I prescribe Lose You to Love Me by Selena Gomez.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

How good was that prescription? Like, I literally, like, I don't, okay, so I already know that you're, like, not involved in this lore, but, like, I just killed that. What, you're gonna? Like, I literally just, like, I took a chomp of something, I ate it, and, like, the plate's clean. Nice. Okay, so in Lose You to Love Me, I'm so sorry, I was just so excited that I did such a good job with that.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I meant explain what a Oh. Like, I needed guiding help. Like, sorry. I'm realizing I haven't explained to you what the puscription is.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's like a prescription, but we're puscribing things because it's the pussies.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

and it comes in the form of media. So it's like a song, or a TV show, or a movie, or a book, or it could be anything. Jonathan, Fiona Apple. Got it. You know, I've never listened to Fiona Apple. I know. I know I need to get into her. Come on. Will you get me to watch her? What do I listen to to get into her?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You're an artist.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I've been hooking up with my coworker and nobody knows, but now he's hooking up with another one of our coworkers and is trying to hide it from me. Do I confront or just quit?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, you do hate drama.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like sometimes I'm like, I can't think of anything.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I think she also needs to stay unbothered, like stay unbothered.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Cause like that makes people the most angry.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I used to go there in college all the time and I would see everybody I went to school with like every day. I need to talk to you about Yellow Jackets.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

This one's tricky. My long-term boyfriend and my best friend are flirting in front of me every day. What should I do? It's awful. So I actually know of a situation like this. That's not a best friend. Well, here's where it gets tricky.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So the girl or whoever could just be projecting as well. You know, like there's In my opinion, like I knew these people and this girl thought that her best friend was flirting with her boyfriend and she said something. And then after that, their friendship was never the same. And they were like this.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And I mean, to this day, it's like, I don't like, you know, I don't know if they're actually flirting or they're just projecting.

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Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like the person that's in the relationship. Like, OK, let's call that.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You don't know if they're just projecting.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

But I would feel like I think I would also look inward and be like, is it just a trust issue I have with my boyfriend?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You know what I mean? Boyfriend. Right. Like, let's blame the boyfriend first before we blame the best friend.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

But also, I am curious. Like, maybe get, like, a third party involved. Like, be like, do you think they're flirting?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, you know, get someone involved.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, but, like. It's still cleanable.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, you know, like we can still clean it.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I can't play coy anymore. Like I have to talk to you about it. I always, I saved it all for like this past week so I could binge it all in one go.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

You just would feel so embarrassed. You're like, oh, my God, I wasn't flirting.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Also, like, if it's your long-term boyfriend and best friend, like, say it out loud. It makes sense that your long-term boyfriend and best friend are friends and close.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And I feel like maybe this girl, someone said something to her, like they flirt, but it's like, I think I, something inside of me said, like, I just, maybe I just want to see the good, but something inside of me says it's projection.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah. I have come to terms with the fact that I probably need to seek help for my OCD. I'm very overwhelmed. Do you have OCD?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Me too, really bad. That's why I went on Prozac, actually. I'm very overwhelmed with the idea of starting the process and wanted to know if you had any tips. I love that you're comfortable sharing your experience with the world. Dash Katie.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I think for OCD, OCD is so different for so many different people.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

What really worked is starting meds and at the same exact time starting exposure therapy.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So it's like, okay. So like my OCD, like I really had rituals. So, so yeah. So it's like, yeah. Like, so like I had to like look at myself a certain amount of times in the mirror before I turned off the light. So like an exposure therapy would be like, cause this was during COVID, like having her on zoom and like,

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, it's a lot to- No, it was a lot.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

turning off the lights without looking in the mirror and then like sitting there and that uncomfortableness, but also being on meds to like learn how to push away those thoughts. So like that for me was really helpful. I used to, I know this sounds so stupid. I used to have a lot of trouble adding songs to a playlist. Like I would have to do it four times over.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And it would drive me crazy because I'm very passionate about my playlist. So like one part of my exposure therapy would be just add the song and then sit there with it. And I just I think like finding a good exposure therapist and starting a medication that works for you personally for me.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

A little more villainous this season.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, it's interesting because I feel like your character was kind of painted as like the villain in season one. Or at least like you were painted as the one that was like- going away from the group and not down for like everything.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I only knew I had it because I was I've had it since I was like seven or eight. Yeah. And I only knew I had it because I knew that there was this show on VH1. I don't know if anyone remembers. It was called OCD Rehab with Dr. Drew. And it was like celebrities with OCD would come. And I don't know if it was celebrities, but it was people with OCD would come.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

and go through like this reality television rehab with their OCD. And I was like, Ooh, this sounds weirdly familiar. I think that's what I have.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And I was like, Oh, I have OCD. And then in the show girls on HBO, I don't know if.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Wait, that's my favorite show of all time. Uh,

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Did you, have you watched girl, have you done a rewatch yet of the show?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Um, what was the hardest for you? Like what was the, which one hit the hardest for you? Mine was like the first rewatch out of college.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

My mom loves BoJack Horseman. She says it's like her favorite show of all time.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Thanks. I'll tell you you said that. But it's, have you watched it? No, she's like, Jake, it's the best show of all time.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

But it's different because you're like the outsider in the sense that you want to get the fuck out of there as opposed to like, you know, like.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, I think I need to watch it.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

That's like me with, like, scandal or glee.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I was like, the biggest glee. Like, the biggest glee.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Of course I watched the Glee Project on Oxygen because I was the biggest Oxygen fan.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I know. It was like a whole to do. That's crazy. Do you remember the show Snapped where it was like a reality television about like a woman that committed crimes?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And it was like, do you remember Snapped?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

God, Oxygen was it for me.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, Ryan Murphy stuff. They had Bad Girls Club.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I think I'm going to start too. I know I'm about.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So the summer I left before college.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

That's when I did my first full rewatch. And I've actually finished the show. When I tell you I was so addicted to this fucking show. I was. I never like woken up. Watch it immediately on my phone. Like I was like. Drugs. Anywhere I could go. Like it was drugs. Like anywhere I could go. And I could watch it. Like it was like I was watching this fucking show.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I can't have the curtain pulled back just yet. I can't have it pulled back just yet. It's dark. Yeah, don't do it. I can't. I can't. Glee is like my... Because there's a darkness behind it. I was like, I am Glee, I think. I am. Like, this is like... I remember that was the first show I ever waited until...

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I would watch it as it came out, like Wednesdays or Tuesdays at 8 whenever it came out on Fox or whatever.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yes, and I would watch it and I would buy the songs on iTunes after. Would you watch it alone? Yeah, my mom was like, no. No? My mom was like watching Mad Men at the time. My family was obsessed with Mad Men. Yes, my family's obsessed with Sopranos, Mad Men, and BoJack Horseman. Isn't that a random three?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, God. I want to be in your family. I think you would like my mom.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Wait, so what does your twin do?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

That's fucking awesome.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And does she and you guys were always close growing up and.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No, she's incredible. So good. Because I don't remember the last time I've been, like, if I see an actress or an actor in person, like, I don't know how I'm going to separate their character. Like, she was that good.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

God, it's so funny in high school. You like, you're, you're always told like, it's not going to matter. It's not going to matter.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Good for you. Yeah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I graduated 2018 from high school. Yeah, 2022 from college.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Did Allie go to college?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

My dad didn't want me to go to college.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, he was like, well, don't go. Like, do something creative.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Also, I'm in the middle of or I'm about to finish The Leftovers. I'm at the end of season three. And when I find a show that I'm like so clinical for, first of all, I'm so scared for its end. I just don't know who I'm going to be without it. I don't really have a show lined up to like binge after it. So I'm a little anxious.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Sophie, what did we learn today?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

everything in artistry and life so that was just a good reminder oh my god i'm gonna take that with me for the rest of my entire week be like well sophie thatcher told me i was honest in that good interview i think it's the coolest thing to be honest that's the coolest thing you can do well it's very cathartic for me yeah well part of my that's why you're doing this Thank you.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, part of my OCD is I've always felt like since I was little, my anxieties manifested in guilt, feeling guilty, guilty that I'm lying, guilty that I'm not being like, you know what I mean? Like that I'm not like just giving the full truth. So I almost overshare to like compensate for that.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's very cathartic for me.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah. For me, I learned that. You are the coolest person ever and so fucking talented and so fun to be around and such a star. And when something really hit me when you were talking about those people that just like take up the scene and something that's that's something you can't teach in acting school. I was thinking like she has that. That's her.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Sophie, thank you for coming on. Thank you. This was so fun. This was awesome. I had a great, great. Oh, Brad.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, no, we will. We will send you. You'll have more Garrett than you know what to do with.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh my God. Was that like, was, were you like, do you guys have so much for like, do you like, do you all like, cause it's such an intense plot and intense storyline. Like, do you all like switch off the second the camera stopped rolling or is it like hard when the materials?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Sophie, I love you.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh my God. Sorry. I just panicked. You just reminded me that.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, yeah. This is coming out after the finale. So you can say anything.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, because you have to do this angle and this angle.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, we're the one where Beyonce's like.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Do you play it on a DS?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Okay, so I have a few questions. Were you a Pokemon kid?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

No, because you brought up Nintendo and I was like an intense Pokemon kid on Nintendo, but I just got Nintendo Switch.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I have Mario Kart and Pokemon.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And I want to get, what's the one? The one, the pink, the pink Kirby? Kirby.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Were you a Hello Kitty girl?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, that's amazing. I love Hello Kitty. I have Hello Kitty blanket.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Okay, so you talked about like the group scenes being like you would have to do, it would take eight hours for like a two-page script.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I'm going to go back to Veep, which I'm very excited about because I love it. But there is something to be said for one of those thriller, supernatural, extraterrestrial, bigger than us shows. And that's what The Leftover feels like with me. And I'm on season three, episode seven. And season three, episode six, I'm going to say that I think that so far was the best episode of the show I've seen.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

This season, what for you do you felt like was like the most, like if out of all the scenes, you're like, oh, that one specifically was so long and hard to film.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Oh, my God, yeah.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It's just like, I haven't had such a visceral, like you were saying, a visceral reaction to a show. Like, I'm yelling at my... scream. That's great. Yelling. That's what we want. Like, why? Like, go home! I know, no, that scene.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

By the time this comes out, all episodes will be out.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

So right now, spoiler for those who haven't seen, Hannah disguised herself as you.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

And you went to the top of the hill to make a phone call. Mm-hmm. Like, that feeling when the line was going up and, like, you finally made that call, like, I... Oh, my God.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

They get rescued.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, that's what makes it sting so hard every time, like, something bad happens. Like, when those three people came and Lottie killed the guy. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, wait, no, no, like, no, they're going to go home. And, like, you know what I mean? Like, when Mari was, like, the final hunt. I'm like, oh, my God, no, no, no, they're going to go home. Maury.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Yeah, and, like, they're going home. Like, we don't need to do this. I know. That's the worst part of it all. I'm like, look, they never need to do it. Like, cannibalism is never the answer. But, like, if only they knew that, like, they were going home so soon. You know what I mean?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Like, it's crazy because Shauna is like, no, let's stay. I know.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

That ending... If I could cry, I would have sobbed. It was super, super, super moving. Anywho, that all goes to say that's what I did today. I watched The Leftovers and I took a nap. Okay, so here's where I'm between a rock and a hard place. I want to tell you guys about my love life and I want to be like I have a date coming up.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

It was so funny. The most cathartic moment in that entire series or the entire season for me was when you realized that Misty fucked with the transponder. Yeah. Or whatever it was. I finally get punched. You decked her in the face. I finally get to do something. Yeah, you're like, oh, fuck you. Yeah. Because it was her fault the whole time. It's actually her fault.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

Well, Shauna is. Shauna and Thaisa, to me, are like evil twins. Like, you know what I mean?

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

She does. She does.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

But I was getting very frustrated when- like as adults, when they're like, we have to give it what it wants. And then everyone's like, wait, like maybe no, like maybe no. We've seen how this has worked in the past. Like, you know, but it's like, they're so fucked up from this. It's like, are you excited to eventually like, um, out them at home after the wilderness.

Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher

I was just thinking that as well. She hasn't cracked yet.