Sophie Buddle

It was really crazy. I was gaslighting my boyfriend because I was... Er wollte es nicht akzeptieren. Well, I just, I really for some reason didn't think that it was... Fire. It was fire. And then we turned on the news and we could see our street. Our street was the one that's like, it's touching the fire. So we decided to evacuate.

Nein, nein, nur West-Hollywood. Oh, ja. Keine Scheiße. Aber man kann da hinfahren.

Nicht mehr, offensichtlich.

Das ist wahr.

Nein. Hast du überhaupt draußen gewesen? Hast du versucht, nicht draußen zu gehen?

Ja, es ist gut.

Ja, ja, ich habe ein paar Bilder bekommen.

Es fühlt sich ein wenig aufregend an. Ich denke, Menschen, die mehr Depressionen als Angst haben, fühlen es sich fast gut an, etwas zu spüren, um das Blut zu pumpen, weil mein Rettungs-Hart-Rat so niedrig ist. Es ist ein bisschen furchtbar. Was ist dein Rettungs-Hart-Rat? Vier? Ich weiß es nicht. Ich weiß nicht, wie man es messen kann.

Oh.

Vielleicht.

Aber ist es dich besitzt, es zu sehen?

Nope, no pets.

Yeah, my boyfriend and I went to Anaheim and stayed at a hotel for a couple days.

Yes, that was the first thing that I packed. Well, I had packed a bag a couple days before when the fires were not even close to us. Yeah. Just with my passport and my work visa. Because I also just went through crazy work visa issues where my visa got denied and I couldn't work and I thought I was going to get deported. So I feel very precious about my work visa.

Aber ja, ich habe das genommen, ich habe meinen Passwort genommen. Ich war eigentlich ein bisschen überrascht, dass ich meinen Dyson Haarwrapp genommen habe. Ich habe so viele Dinge genommen, die veränderbar waren. Ich habe meinen Laptop genommen.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, it really does let you know how you're gonna react in an apocalyptic situation.

I think so, too. I don't think my work visa is gonna fight off any looters.

Yeah, you gotta get the hand-crank radio.

No, never. I'm a young, beautiful woman. I don't know the radio.

No, my parents both like the radio. My dad had a radio show. And my mom's an artist and she always has the radio on in her art room.

I think mostly music. But I like talk radio.

You don't listen to NPR anymore?

Well, definitely listening comes after reading. Like they, you know, they put out the news in writing first and then they decide what story is worth talking about.

No problem. That's why I'm here. I just really break it down for you.

Nein, wenn du es glaubst, schreiben viele von ihnen die Geschichten, die du lest.

No, I've never been deported.

I've never been deported from America, true.

But my work visa got denied, which was, it was just a real shock. What do you make of that? Well, I think that my lawyer made a mistake, and so I got a new lawyer, but she maintains that she did not make a mistake, so I don't know what happened, but...

Well, I don't know. I know hundreds of Canadian comics, and I don't know anybody who's ever had their reason denied, but maybe they just don't talk about it, but I was really talked by that.

Yeah, maybe I shouldn't talk about it, but there used to be a really good legal loophole for Canadian comedians, which was the Cirque du Soleil visa. Have you heard about this?

Ja, so because Cirque du Soleil has, you know, they have all their people and they travel all over the world. They have a pretty simple visa for their performers, but also for all the people to set up the tents and that kind of thing. And so the person who booked or bankrolled or whatever at Cirque du Soleil was a big fan of Canadian stand-up comedians.

So she would give Canadian comics the Cirque du Soleil visa and they could come to the States and perform.

It's one person that works at Cirque du Soleil.

Yeah, I didn't do that visa. I was too late to that one, but it was pretty good.

I believe it was closed a few years ago, yes.

Yeah.

The living visa?

Yeah, the work visa is what allows me to be here.

No, but usually you have something like 180 days grace period after your work visa expires if you're still with the company that applied for your work visa for you. But because I was with ICM at the time and ICM applied for my work visa and ICM no longer exists, I didn't get that grace period.

I think that could be what it is. I haven't looked too much into it, because now I have a work visa. Everything's all set. I got a new lawyer, got a new work visa, and I'm all set. So I only look forward.

Yeah.

They got bought by CAA.

No, I'm at WME now.

Well, no, I was with CAA and then they dropped me, so I went over to WME.

Really?

Have you spent a lot of time in Canada?

For touring or for other stuff?

Absolutely.

No, but they would love to have you at CBC.

I worked at CBC for many years. I wrote for a show called 22 Minutes, which is a CBC news comedy program.

I know that she wrote for a Children's Show, but I never knew what it was.

I know. I wonder if it was Télé Française. That was like the really iconic one.

Hmm.

I do come from Canada.

Yeah, I'm full of beans. And we also have a shared best friend, Ali Makowski. She's picking me up here later.

Yeah, we're going to go see The Brutalist.

We were supposed to do that yesterday and then, I forget what happened.

How were those shows?

Okay.

Because of the virus?

Yeah, almost like a classier Vegas audience.

No, it requires a little bit more of you.

In Austin, at Moon Tower.

Yeah, that was great.

Yeah, all I do is open for people. I'm opening for Taylor Tomlinson all next month.

That will be fun.

Yes, she's gay now, so now we have the gays as well, lots of fun. Yeah.

Born in Montreal, went to high school in Ottawa and then right after high school I moved to Vancouver for 7 or 8 years and then I moved here.

Until I was about five. My mom had to flee the city due to unpaid parking tickets.

For her it does. She was in school at the time. She was going to McGill. When she had you? Yeah, so she would take me into the classes.

Oh, sie ging zurück zur Schule? Nein, ich glaube, dass sie damals nur zur Schule ging.

Ich glaube, dass sie zur Schule für Mathematik ging. Für Mathematik? Ja, für abstraktes Mathematik. Sie ist eine starke Frau. Wow, okay. Und sie führte direkt nach vorne, wo sie eine Klasse hatte und sie liegte einfach in ihrem Auto da. Und dann, als sie zurück kam, gab es ein Ticket oder zwei und sie hat es einfach in den Hintergrund gesetzt und vergessen.

And then that ended up really following her for a long time. And eventually she lent someone her car and then they immediately got arrested for the amount of unpaid parking tickets and put a boot on her car. And then we went to Ottawa.

No, and she said that she's still scared to drive in Montreal.

We were refugees.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My mom and my dad both spent all their 20s in Montreal, yeah.

Both my parents were teachers. They're both like artists, but both became teachers after they had a kid accidentally.

All the way through? Mom signed.

It is a big Jewish thing. Kind of trendy.

No, totally. There's no Jews in Vancouver at all.

I don't know which one. Because I left, and so I was the Jewish neighborhood.

We got her.

Have you been following Canadian politics at all this week?

That's the headline. You got it.

Ja, Pierre Palliet, der Konservative. Es scheint, dass jeder in Kanada sortiert hat, dass es nur er sein wird.

Weil er konservativ ist und nicht öffentlich rassistisch. Und es scheint, dass es nur er sein wird.

Ja, they're still trying to decide who's going to lead the Liberal Party. But I think this is a really good opportunity for the NDP to gain some ground. I've only ever voted for the NDP. They're the more progressive party.

Penis.

New Democrat Party.

Yeah, you should know this. I think you would really like the NDP. They started in, I believe, the 60s or the 70s. They are based on the labor movement in the UK. And they run on workers' rights and better coverage for pharmaceuticals, for healthcare, and free childcare for mothers, including dental.

No.

Yeah. NDP is the only party that runs on that.

It does cover a lot, but the few things that it doesn't cover... Like, to me, it's crazy to... If you're going to cover healthcare, you have to cover dental, too. Dental is a huge part of healthcare. Yeah. You only got one pair of teeth.

Absolutely, absolutely. Well, we also, we love the Queen, and we love England, so we keep our bad teeth to honor the English. Yeah.

Yes, it's a parliamentary system. The main three parties are definitely the liberals, the conservatives and the NDP.

And there have been times that the NDP have been the opposition party. And I think that this actually could be a time that the NDP rises up again.

Yes. Right now, the Liberals only had a minority in Parliament, but they still had the biggest chunk, so they were in charge.

Ja, ja, das ist perfekt. Du hast es. Du hast es absolut geschafft. Ja.

Yeah, nobody saw the galas I did either.

No, it is a real travesty, because watching the Just for Laughs Galas on TV are a really big part of Canada's genetics. And I grew up watching Just for Laughs. So they're just keeping it to themselves? Yeah, it basically just shows up on TV. They don't really have a huge social media presence. They don't really do clips, which I think is a disaster.

No, that's true. I think usually messages and comments come because they saw a clip online, either promoting it or a clip from it. And I think people watch stuff on TV and they also don't know if it's new, they don't know if it's old.

I think it's also Canadians are really opposed to imposing themselves on others. Yeah, I think that's it. I think sending a message would feel like imposing yourself.

Tell me.

Awesome.

Yes.

I know exactly what you mean. And I'm feeling sort of the same thing because I left Canada because I felt bored because I felt like I had kind of done everything there was to do, at least in comedy in Canada. And then I left and then now I'm American. So I don't care about Canada. I don't think about it at all.

America number one. But I realize now, as all these horrible things happen around us, that Canada is really nice and safe and comfortable. It just doesn't have an edge to it. It doesn't have an edge to it. It doesn't have entertainment industry. So if you're in entertainment, it doesn't feel like it doesn't make sense to live there.

Okay.

Er ist großartig.

No, it does feel very separate. You do feel sort of bubble-wrapped.

Well, it just feels clean and there's no guns.

The no guns, I think, is the biggest difference, but also it is so much less populated than everywhere in America.

Yeah, there's less people in Canada than there are in California.

Yeah, well it's called tall poppy syndrome. I'm sure you've heard of tall poppy syndrome. No. What is it? People talk about it in Canada, people talk about it in Australia, I think probably the UK as well.

Yeah, poppies all grow the same height. When there's one that gets too high, it gets killed. And so everybody really values averageness. Egoism is not valued. If you get too big for your britches, basically, nobody likes that.

So that there is sort of a calmness to it.

That's why all of the most polite American movie stars are Canadian. Like a Seth Rogen, like a Ryan Gosling. They got too big for their britches in Canada and they're still the most kind of beta Americans.

Ottawa sucks. It's boring.

Yes.

Ottawa people are going to be mad at me, but...

It is good comedy audiences in Ottawa. Yeah, I would say that the shining light in Ottawa are the comedy clubs there.

Yeah, they've got good clubs. I'm sure you're not doing clubs, but there is a very comedy literate audience in Ottawa.

I love Winnipeg. Yeah.

Sure, no, it would be challenging to live there. But it's a great comedy city and great thrifting city. Because they have a bunch of Mennonite thrift stores. And I think Mennonites don't believe in being greedy or something. And so you can actually get furniture for like three bucks.

Yeah, a lot of modest stuff for sale. No, they keep that for themselves. They sell regular stuff.

Nein, nein, es ist so, dass sie einen Mennoniten-Betrieb haben.

Ich konnte es dir nicht sagen. Für mich ist es alles das Gleiche. Ja.

Für mich ist es alles Amish.

Ja.

Quick Amish. Ja. Ja.

Yeah, I'm on the road pretty much every weekend.

When I was a kid?

Weil beide meine Eltern Künstler sind. Welche Art von Künstler? Mein Vater ist Musiker und meine Mutter ist Schauspielerin. Mein Vater hat mich in Musikklassen und meine Mutter hat mich in Kunstklassen.

Ich habe Saxophon gespielt, weil mein Vater Saxophon gespielt hat.

Ja, er ist Jazz und Punk-Rock.

Nein. Nur Peter Buttle.

Peter Buttle. Nein, aber er hat in vielen Bänden gearbeitet. Seine große Band in Montreal in den 90ern war Hazy Azure.

Hazy Asher.

Ja.

Ja.

Er hat eine sehr lange Haare in einem Haar. Sehr lang, wie ein bisschen jazzy.

I'm under the impression they were popular.

Yeah, he loves jazz. He's always loved jazz and he's always loved punk. So he's a music teacher? No, he taught, he did adult, he recently retired, but he taught adults, he taught inmates in a prison.

Yeah, math and English, but he's a really, he's like huge, he's like six foot seven and he's a big, you know, punk rock guy. So he's kind of uniquely suited to be able to go into the prison and feel comfortable.

Ja, ja. So they both really always encouraged creative stuff. No, oils and gouache. Oh yeah.

She'll paint things. Right now she's really into bridges.

So she's actually going to do her first show this year. She took a big break from painting when she was raising me, because my parents were not together, so I was mostly with my mom.

No.

I think when I was conceived. That was it? I've never really gotten a clear answer on when they broke up. And to me, that tells me pretty clearly.

Nope.

Just me.

Yeah, and then he moved to Vancouver. We moved to Ottawa. So it was, it seemed like a pretty clean break.

I don't think that they talk. Maybe happy birthdays to each other.

Yeah, I did summers with my dad. The rest of the year with my mom.

Yeah.

Oh, really? She drove you around auditions? At fourteen? Yeah.

Zuerst habe ich allen gesagt, dass ich 20 Jahre alt war, damit ich in die Clubs kommen konnte. Und dann hatte ich auch keinen Erfolg für fünf Jahre. Ich habe keine Festivals gemacht, nicht mal einen Gastspot, glaube ich, bis ich fünf Jahre alt war.

No, I think that... Because they didn't know. I think I was trying to be very adult. I had jokes about sex. I was not having sex yet, but I was... At 14, that's good. Yeah, I was trying to be mature.

Yeah, it was all I know how to do at this point. Now I am having sex. Thank God. Woo, shout out to sex.

Yeah, sex and politics.

Religion, but I don't really talk about religion.

No, just vague Judaism. Oh yeah?

I don't remember ever going to temple, but we were all very actively Jewish. My grandpa was the one that was the most religious.

Er ist aus England, aber er lebt in Ottawa. Britannische Jünger? Britannische Jünger, ja, aus London.

Ja, er kam auf einem Schiff und hat sich in die Kanadische Armee eingeladen, um für eine Pflege zu bezahlen. Und dann... Er war ein Doktor? Ja, er war ein Arzt. Oh, wow. Ja, und dann starb er, als ich zwölf war, was sehr hart war. Ja, wir waren sehr nah. Aber wir waren, es war sehr jüdisch. Es war sehr jüdisch.

Ja.

Ja. Well, Grandma converted to marry him.

Yeah, and then his parents died, never knowing that she was not a born Jew.

Yeah, she's really taken to Judaism. It suits her well.

Oh, yeah.

Around, with it, sharp.

I have three grandparents alive. It was just my one grandfather.

I am 30.

It is nice.

Just at night time or...

In that afternoon? I was kind of... I think things can set me in that path. Right now I don't feel depressed because I got lots going on. I'm touring every weekend. I have this writing job. I'm working on my script. I have friends.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah, I was really depressed when I first decided I wanted to move to the States. And then I had a phone call with a lawyer to find out how much it would cost. And I thought I would never be able to afford it. And I was pretty depressed for months and months. And then I got the 22 minutes writing job. In Canada? Yeah, and then that allowed me to pay to move.

Was machst du da? Ja, ich arbeite in den Räumen von Breslin. Ich bin in Ottawa für ein paar Jahre komisch gearbeitet. Und dann bin ich in Vancouver geflogen, als ich 18 war. Und ich habe in Vancouver viel besser gearbeitet. Und ich habe eventuell Touren und Headlining gemacht.

Ja, die Comedy-Mix.

It was a great club. It was the basement of a hotel.

It might have been a Yuck Yucks before my time, but there is another Yuck Yucks.

Yeah.

Yes, yes, right behind. Yeah, it was great. And it closed before COVID because it was a spite closing. Because a woman, I don't know if she or her father owned the hotel. Right. And her husband started this comedy club in the basement. Right. And then they got divorced and she just shut down the comedy club. Oh. Yeah.

It was horrible.

Losing the Comedy Mix was really rough. And then during the pandemic, we lost the Yuck Yucks. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm doing that this weekend.

It's one of the House of Comedies.

Yeah.

Yeah, I did that one a couple weeks ago.

Yeah, in the Giant Mall.

And you stay at the Horrible Hotel.

Oh, das Hotel war rough. Es gab ein Comedy-Condo, das sie nicht mehr haben, aber Mann, Mann, das Hotel ist... Sind du in Clubs, wenn du neue Sachen probierst?

Ich mache Portland, Helium, um Shit zu arbeiten.

Ja, ich musste es wieder zusammenführen, weil es war wie...

How do you feel about Trump's incoming presidency? Do you feel like it's going to be worse than last time?

Because he's not going to leave or for a different reason?

Yeah, one of the things that really surprises me about that is I thought such a fundamental part of the Republican Party was advocating for free speech. And Trump seems to be completely against free speech if it's a criticism of him.

Ja.

Empathie ist raus. Und wir haben das mit Pierre Palliev in Kanada. Er läuft auch auf Anti-Wokeness. Und er benutzt es nicht so viel mit Worten. Er klingt nicht sehr hart. Er ist ziemlich soft gesprochen. Aber ich habe ihn ein paar Mal darüber gehört, dass er gegen die Anti-Woke-Kultur spricht.

Yeah, pardon me, being against woke culture. And there's a huge rise of right wing and far right wing leaders in Europe, too, winning elections.

Well, that's how I think of it. I think of it as helping people that need more help.

Yeah, and I realize that I'm very... I'm very liberal, I'm very progressive in everything except stand-up comedy. I do think that when I look at the comics that I like, everyone is kind of brash and, you know... Okay.

Nein, nein, nicht sogar in meinem eigenen Stand-Up. Ich meine nur generell. Ich denke, dass Stand-Ups eine sehr unique Position in der Gesellschaft haben, wo man über Dinge sprechen kann und man falsch sein kann. Ich denke, mehr als andere Menschen. Wir haben die...

Nein, aber das ist das Wichtigste. Deshalb denke ich, dass Comics so unik in der Gesellschaft sind. Denn wir sind viel freier als Politiker. Wir sind viel freier als Schauspieler.

Nein, nein, und ich spreche definitiv nicht darüber. Ich meine nur eine gewisse Freiheit, die nicht so gut ist. Oh ja, du kannst ein paar Knöpfe drücken. Ja, ja, das ist es, was ich suche. Ich bin wirklich nicht mit Politikerinnen, aber mit Comics. Ich mag Comics, um ein paar Knöpfe zu drücken.

No, no, exactly.

Yes, nothing in the world is easier than not watching a certain stand-up comic that you don't like. Absolutely. If somebody's not your cup of tea, you are never going to cross paths with that person.

Yeah, enjoy it.

Bye.

Yeah, yeah, I was headlining in Canada for many years, but obviously there's not a ton of cities in Canada, so you can only do so many rounds.

Oh, there's a lot. There's a great comic book.

My favorite is Graham Clark. He's a Vancouver-based. With his long beard now? With his long beard, yeah. Looks like a rabbi.

I don't think of him as an old guy.

Ja, Michael Muntz, großartig.

Ja, Tim Nutt ist so gut. Der andere große, mit dem ich besessen bin, ist Erika Sigurdsson, auch ein phänomenaler Comic.

Ja, ich drücke immer, dass Leute in die USA gehen. Und es gibt eine echte Attitüde, dass man wie ein Dessertier ist, wenn man ein Tourist ist und dann in die USA geht. But I'm not doing any less Canada dates. You can still do the four cities that you always go to. Just the rest of your weekends also are booked with American cities.

Bigger than here, but not big.

Yes, yes. I'm a real chameleon. Happy to be pro-Trump. Just trying to have a good night. Just trying to keep everybody happy. Okay.

Yeah, I have different, I do have some different chunks back and forth, but I do like explaining Canadian stuff to Americans. And then that material obviously works in Canada too, because Canada likes to hear about themselves.

Yeah, I date a comic, Mace Scaloni.

He's great. He's from Canada too. We moved to the States at the same time.

He's doing great.

Yeah, he's in Seattle right now for gigs.

The Hereafter.

It's good.

Absolutely. Absolutely, I do. And then I really like to be like, by the way, the opening comedian is my boyfriend, if you're wondering how he got booked on this show.

It's great, yeah. There's a lot of inside. Well, there's been often times that I've opened for him, too. And then whoever goes second gets to really fact check the other person.

No, no, we're very compatible.

No, but because it happens so rarely, do you just say, okay, no worries, and you don't do that anymore or do you fight it?

You can't tell anybody I did that.

Das wird nicht gut erholt werden. Das bleibt in diesem Raum. Ja, ich habe das definitiv gemacht. Das ist so lustig. Das ist so lustig. Ich fühle mich sehr glücklich, ihn zu haben. Wir hatten nie solche Probleme. Die einzige Zeit, an der wir ein Problem hatten, war, als ich einen Witz darüber hatte, dass ich getötet werde. Das war über meinen Ex, den ich noch in der heutigen Zeit mache.

Du weißt, du gehst in den Rhythmus eines Witzes und es ist schwer, es zu verändern. Und es fühlt sich auch weniger interessant an, etwas zu sprechen, was in der Vergangenheit war.

Yes, well, yeah.

I do the joke. That was my old boyfriend. Because he was concerned that people thought it was him.

Yeah, so he doesn't want to get tomatoed.

Yes.

Writing gigs, it's good. I'm the head monologue writer for Taylor Tomlinson's show.

Yeah, he just left the writer's room because he's working on a new show now.

Ismael Lutfi.

Oh, come back anytime. I'm not in the booking department, but I'll sneak you onto the lot. We can get you on.

Yeah, we have actors too. Mandy Moore did our show.

I think I saw that. Yeah, pretty cool. Isn't she shiny? She's so shiny. Right? Yeah, really special.

Based on news? Because it's a monologue. They also, they don't love when I talk about the show, like behind the scenes stuff publicly. They asked, I did it one time and they asked me nicely to not.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

Yeah, it's a lot of jokes per day and it's really been quite confidence building for me because it's shown me how much writing I am capable of every day.

Yeah.

Nein.

Nein, ich denke, du bist mit dem auch weniger wertvoll. Stand-up ist so, so um Dinge herunterzubringen und es zu refinieren und einen neuen Pause zu geben und einen neuen Inhalt zu finden. Und du bist so wertvoll damit. Ja. Also definitiv mit einem strikten Ablauf, du endest einfach mit dem, was du hast.

Ja, das stimmt. Es ist also nie ein Problem, dass ich es für mich selbst behalten will.

Ich denke, sie sind begeistert. Ich habe nichts zu Schaden gehört.

Ja, beide meine Eltern mögen meinen Akt. Mein Vater ist ein edgiger Typ. Er ist ein Punk-Rocker, er liebt Carlin, er ist in das.

Ja.

Ja, er liebt den edgigen Joke.

Absolut.

Well, I've never put out an album. I've put out an album and I had a half hour in Canada a couple years ago, but I haven't done an hour special yet, so I'm working on that.

I'm happy to do it YouTube, if that's my best option.

No, I do not post on YouTube at all. Are you active on YouTube? Do you do your own posting? Do you have a social media person?

I don't think you have to care. I think skip it.

It's a nightmare. It's bad for stand-up. It's good in the way that you can grow your audience.

Yeah, I have lots of followers on Instagram from posting clips. But that's from taping long sets and having years of jokes that were ready to post.

I'm not really a crowd work guy.

Are you?

Do you like to do it?

I'll interact with people if there's an ordeal happening in the room, of course. But yeah, I'm not asking where you're from, what you do.

Ich denke, dass viele Comics Jokes mit Klips in der Hand schreiben. Und deshalb ist es wichtig, es kurz zu halten, den Haken wirklich klar zu haben am Anfang des Jokes. Einige Dinge, die ich nicht als wertvoll für langfristiges Stand-Up nennen kann. Und ich denke, Teil der Schönheit des Stand-Ups ist, dass es so lang ist und du so viel Zeit hast in deiner Stunde, um es auszuarbeiten.

The tightness is really, it's the opposite of what I like about stand-up. I like the creating a real texture and vibe in the room and building some goodwill. And then that's when you get to play around a little.

I think it's bad for new comics. I think it's bad for comics that are starting and have the DNA of Clip. Because that's the only way they think. Yeah, yeah. But obviously it's fine for stand-ups that already are established.

Yeah, yeah. They get a clip of something and then they move on to the next joke where you can't really marinate. You can't really...

In longer sets?

I'm always curious about that, too. And that's one thing about L.A. is like we all go around town and we see each other do short sets. Yeah. And nobody knows what's happening for other people on the road. Like we all go on the road every weekend.

And you have no idea what other people are doing. Yeah. I love watching my contemporaries' hours. Like whenever somebody's doing an hour in L.A., I love to go. Yeah. Because I'm so curious what everybody's hour looks like.

Ja. Es ist so schön.

Yeah, it takes a couple weeks of not doing stand-up to really feel like, I have no idea how this is going to go.

Yeah, yeah, because it takes a real comfortability on stage to do what you need to do, to try the new stuff, to give it a chance.

Oh, that was your first time back.

I opened for you at Largo.

But you record everything, obviously. No, me too.

Yeah.

Doing the six or seven sets in a night actually does... It does that. It does what we could do if we sat down and we listened to the setback. But you lose the momentum and the adrenaline and the excitement.

I like my act. I have some filler chunks that are... What do you got, like an hour? Yeah, I do over an hour, but it's... I have... Einige davon hasse ich wirklich, weil ich sie wirklich als Füllungsmaterial betrachten würde, das ich bevor ich etwas veröffentlichen würde. Oh ja?

Es fühlt sich einfach nicht gut an in meinem Mund an.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the only time I feel down about stand up is if I haven't done new stuff.

Yeah.

Oh, fun. And like, you know, well, you're a yapper as well.

You love to yap.

It's not derogatory.

You had a really good one that when I was opening for you at Largo, you had a joke about the cat on the expensive speaker.

Something like that, that was said at Punchline, that you were annoyed that you had a real one-liner, but it was great, I remember that one.

I feel the same way. So I feel like all my sex jokes are my kind of sprinkled in. Everybody likes them. Keep the mood good. Yeah. Ich habe das gleiche Gedanken wie du. Warum kann ich das nur machen? Weil alle so glücklich sind. Niemand fühlt sich mit seltsamen Gefühlen. Niemand fühlt sich über mich konfliktiert. Weil wir nicht auf etwas verabschiedet sind.

Aber ich wähle jedes Mal, es nicht zu tun. Ich wähle es, um Jokes zu machen, die manche Leute nicht so wie ich machen.

What is the mental illness associated with that? Is it that you don't really like me unless I've upset you? At some point and then gotten you back. Because it's like the get back is the good feeling. Is when you sort of, you could feel something wasn't well.

Ja, I don't care if they like me or not. I came and I said what I have to say. But I don't feel like that. I really want people to like me and I want people to connect with me. But I still want moments in my act where I'm like, these people don't like me right now.

Yeah, just to be seen.

I've changed for the worse.

No, it's an interesting attitude to have.

Of course, there's always a goal. It's not just to be upsetting.

Das ist verrückt. Das ist eine verrückte Prämisse. Das ist so lustig. Das ist verrückt, dass du das zu Leuten gesagt hast.

Well, even on a very small degree, it's like we are gathering to watch humans suffer. That's what reality television is. You're watching these people cry and get in fights with each other and lose their partners.

I guess that's sort of cops. Yeah, but it's true that we do fly. I mean, the movies that we like, they're always murdering women. We do gather to watch horrific things.

And it is a big part of human nature too, because I was learning that homo sapiens, the genre of human that we are, didn't win out over the other similar species because it was smarter. They won because they were more violent. And so we still have that in us. The reason that we are the prevailing species on earth is because we were the most violent and averaging out smart species. Right.

Yeah.

Good for us.

Yeah. We solved society.

Thank you. Bye.

I think I'm not very connected to my emotions. And so in moments of crisis, I don't feel that I'm really analyzing it at all. I think I'm, yeah, I'll get sad afterwards, but I don't really experience anxiety.

The most anxious truly I've been in my life has been this week, just surrounded by fires. But I would say that I don't have anxiety now.

West Hollywood.

We had to evacuate.

Yeah, the sunset fire was right next to my place.

I evacuated.