Smallville Co-Star
Appearances
Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare
Not bad, huh? No. But, sorry, I'm going to talk with my mouth full.
Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare
Well, let's get into your first job.
Shawn Ryan Show
#170 Mike Benz - USAID Funding CIA-Backed Mercenaries, Media Superweapons and Samantha Powers
Yeah, I mean, I get it. The scene you did, this is the one that got me fired. Okay. What? Here we go. I love the excursions with me and Welling. It's everything that Superman stands for. It's Talkville. Talkville, we always talk about it. It's a great thing. The Smallville Rewatch Podcast.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And at the time, there was a lot of things going on in the world that I just thought were really fucked up. And I felt like I was the only voice out there that was fighting this shit. Mm-hmm. Stuff like, you know, just all kinds of stuff, man. China. Stuff going on in China, which I'm really spun up on China. And I started diving into the pedophilia networks and exposing that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
My best friend here in Franklin died the day before we went there, and the trans stuff with kids.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
No. Well, my best friend died from heroin.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I so basically I'm like talking to myself and I'm like, man, in my head, I told my wife because I had I had opened Instagram and saw something that like triggered me again. And I was like, so I smoked a joint and I was like, we got to head up to this fucking vortex. I was looking at crystals and all kinds of wazoo shit. Went up there, didn't feel a damn thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I was like, this energy stuff's bullshit. Walked down and walked through the security gate. We're staying at this resort called Enchantment. They got security, whatever. But because of my background and because of the show, people in the security business, law enforcement, military, it's just really big in those circles.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
So all those guys knew who I was, and I would stop and say hi and talk with them. And I'd been there for a week. This was the last night. I walked through in this old band blocks out of the guard shack who I'd never seen. The whole week I'd been there. We'd been in and out all week. And he fucking read my mind from front to back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And he starts talking to me as I'm walking through and I'm in a horrible place. I felt like I had just surrendered my soul to the devil. Cause I was like, well, you know, why do you care about all this shit, Sean? Really, it doesn't even affect you. You'd probably be able to shelter your kids from it. And I was like, just surrender. Maybe I'm the fucked up one.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Maybe we should be doing all these things. I don't know. Nobody else seems to give a shit. And so I'd had this experience where I felt like I had no shit. This is a conversation I'm having in my head where I'm just like, I shouldn't care about this. I should just surrender and give it up. Felt like I had surrendered my soul to the devil. Walk through this gate, this old man comes out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
He's trying to talk to me. I'm not in the mood. I'm like, hey, like I'm not being rude, but I look and give him body language. Like I'm looking to him, talking to him over my shoulder. Like I don't want to be bothered right now. So he engages my wife. Of course, my wife is like a social butterfly, turns around, starts talking to him. And I'm like, fuck. So I turn around and I look at him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And he looks at me, and he just started reading my mind from front to back. And I hadn't even told my wife this shit. And he goes, all the stuff that's going on with these kids, he's like, that's not your battle. And all the stuff that's going on in China right now, between U.S. and China relations, that's not your fight either. And I was just like looking at this guy. How do you know?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
He said a bunch more stuff, but my mind went blank because he scared the shit out of me. I was like, how is this guy in my head right now? I haven't vocalized any of this. It's impossible for him to know. And, you know, as weird as it sounds, I think that, like I said, I'd never seen him there before. We'd been there for a week.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I pay attention to security because my background and I was like, holy shit. I told Katie at the end of it when we were walking back to our bungalow, I was like, hey, um. I think that was God talking to me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And she goes, yeah, Sean. She goes, God's always talking to you. You just don't make any room for him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Oh, touche. And then we had gotten up to the bungalow, and my friend Gabe, when we first got there, there was this guy that looked identical to Gabe, and Gabe was always known as a protector. He was... He was a pro hockey player. He was an enforcer on the hockey team. Then he went pro, like semi-pro. Wasn't going to make it to the game. He was on the Tampa Bay Farm team. And then he became a SEAL.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
He was always the guy that took care of everybody else. Everybody knew they were fine if Gabe was around. Then moved into the agency, contracting for them, and that's where we met. And he was known for the same thing there. And then we had gotten out. And like I told you, he had died of a heroin overdose. And I saw this guy everywhere we were at.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
If we were on a hike, this guy that was identical to Gabe was coming back. If we were out in town eating dinner, that guy was out there. If we were at the pool, he was at the pool. And it was just like, Katie, the whole trip, she's like, Gabe's watching over you. Because she knew as I was in a vulnerable spot,
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
We walk from the guard shack to the bungalow, and there's Gabe, the guy that had been everywhere we were at the whole fucking week, winds up. These were like duplexes. He's staying across. He's on the other side of the bungalow. And I saw that. This was like maybe a five-minute walk, and I'm like, holy shit. Like, did you see that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
This dude that looks identical to Gabe has been here the whole fucking time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And then, so then I have a breakdown. We go in, and I told you my best friend in Franklin, who was also a SEAL, just died on a hunt trip with his son. He had a heart attack. And his daughter, who I'd never met, texts me. So she must have went through her dad's phone. This is all within 10 minutes. And I'm breaking down, and I'm talking to my wife, and I'm like, I can't believe this is happening.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And she's like, Don't say you can't believe like she's like, it's here and he's slapping you in the face right now. We have this discussion and my phone, my, I got a text. I got the ding, but I didn't look at it after the conversation. When I kind of cleaned myself up, I look at the phone and it's his daughter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And she says, Hey, I just want you to know, I walked into my dad's gun room for the first time since he'd passed. He had this amazing gun room.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And she goes, he spoke to me, and I can't remember her exact words, but she said that I had recently become his best friend and that he just wants you to know that he loves you for who you are and that I should contact you because you had a relationship with him that nobody else had.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Three things in 10 minutes, and that's what brought me to. But it was, anyways, circling way back. No, that's a good story. It was the psychedelics that kind of put me on the journey to figure out what this is all about. And that's where I landed, and I've really leaned into it since. Yeah. But anyways, I can't remember how we got off on that tangent.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Yeah, yeah. Have you ever done any psychedelics?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Was that a tough decision for you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
You've never done them in a therapeutic setting with a specific intention?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
The aura? It's still there? It's still there. What do you think that is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Not that I know of. I just got a cancer screening.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
We read every review that comes through, and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Dave, we're back from the break. That was a good conversation we just had.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
You know, I've heard a lot about satanic stuff going on in Hollywood and music. And a lot of kids are aspiring to be a rock star. And actually, we have a mutual friend whose daughter is really into it. And I know he is. very concerned about the satanic stuff, the frequencies and all that kind of stuff. Can you talk a little bit about what that is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I think what I'm getting at is more like satanic cults and kind of like the band that you were just talking about in Israel that you had, well, were going to have an encounter with. And some of the stuff that you used to be into. Is that pretty, is that running rampant in those circles?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Do you think there's anything that kids that want to get into this type of industry need to watch out for?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Why did you move to Frank? Why did you move to Middle Tennessee?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
You can't. Yeah, yeah. Well, what's new? What's coming new with you guys? With the winery, with the beer, with the music?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Thank you for coming. Been a pleasure. It was an honor to have you. It's good to meet you too, sir.
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I know we're going to dive into this in a little bit, but how did your sister get involved in witchcraft?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
But I thought he was cool. So your sister's husbands would discipline you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Wow. And your sisters were okay with her? Were they husbands? They were husbands? Yeah. They were my brother-in-laws.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I'll be eating these during the show, man. Just candy. Yeah. Just candy. Shh. And then my pleasure. And then lastly, we have a Patreon account. It's a community and a subscription service. It's actually turned into a community and they've been with me since the very beginning when I started this in my attic. And then we moved here and now we're moving to a new studio and they've just supported me.
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And they're the reason that I get to sit here and do this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And yeah, so one of the things that I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this is from Steven Casey. I heard Dave practiced, excuse me. I heard Dave practiced Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. How did you get into that? Also, how does your worldview affect your music theme and focus?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And it worked again. Wow. Yeah. So what is—I mean, I don't know much about witchcraft. You don't want to. What is the—in a snapshot, what is it? Well, there is a—
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
You know, earlier you had mentioned, we were talking about your sister passing, you had mentioned that you don't understand the concept of heaven. Do you still not understand the concept of heaven?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Rewind in just a little bit. If you don't mind, I'd like to dig a little bit more into childhood. You can do whatever you want. It sounds like you've had a rough go as a kid, and I find that a lot more common than I'd like to, especially during these interviews. It blows my mind how many kids grow up in a dangerous, abusive... shit environment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And so, I mean, growing up with an alcoholic father, I mean, and you'd mentioned that he would find where you guys live and you would have to move again. I mean, what kind of stuff... what kind of stuff where you're dealing with? And, and the reason I'm asking is because there's, I know there's a lot of kids that watch this that are going through that.
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And, and I know a lot of them feel trapped in where they are and they're looking, they're looking for, for hope. And so I just want to, you know, kind of talk about your experience with, with an abusive father and the stuff that happened with you, with your, with your sister's husband.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
But yeah, so we're going to do a life story on you, starting in childhood all the way to today. So it could be a long day. You in for it? I remember I was there, so it should be pretty easy. Cool.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I think that's where he's going. I think he's talking more about your music. How does your worldview affect your music theme and focus?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
How much time had passed since between the last time you saw your, your father and when he, when he died?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Did the relationship with your dad develop more, or was that the only time you saw him before he died?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
How did the – so your mom left at 15. Did you continue a relationship with her?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Did you deal with any other types of abuse, any sexual abuse, anything like that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I get it. I get it. Well, I want to ask you, we'll take a break here in a minute, but before we do, like I had mentioned earlier, there's a lot of kids that are in broken homes right now and facing the unthinkable. And so what advice would you have for a kid that's in that kind of a situation?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Do you, do you, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that, you know, some of your family downstairs, your wife and your son, it seems like you've broken the generational curse. Yes, we have. Did your siblings, did your siblings, were they able to break that?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Let's get into how you got into heavy metal.
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
everybody starts with an introduction so here we go dave mustaine co-founder of metallica where he helped lay the groundwork for thrash metal before parting ways in 1983 mastermind behind mega death a band that sold over 50 million records earned six platinum albums and even a grammy in 2017 for dystopia working on your 17th Megadeth album to be released later this year.
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
So you learned how to write before you learned how to play.
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
So you picked that up. It sounds like you picked it up relatively quick.
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
It's just, excuse me. It's just funny that, you know, what are the odds of becoming a professional baseball player? I don't know. What are the odds of becoming a rock star?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
You made up your mind that you were going to become who you are today all the way back then, or it just happened?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
How old were you when you started?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Damn. And so when was panic born?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
18 years old? Yeah. Had you done any live performances before then?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And how did you guys come up with the name Panic?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
So let's just talk about your first time doing something live. How many people showed up? Was that a rush to you to see?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
How did it, I mean... Just like five minutes ago, you were talking about how alone you felt as a kid, and that kind of got you into music and stuff. And so what's it like to go... I mean, how did it feel for you to go from completely alone to an entire block party wanting to see you play?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I mean, I'm talking about the very beginning of Panic. How old were you when that started?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And you mentioned this other scene. What else was going on in the other scene that you did not like? It sounded like panic was kind of a dark, not kind of, a dark period in your life. I know you lost some friends.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I'm sorry. No, that's, I mean. What got you interested in it at the beginning? Getting beaten up. Getting beaten up?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And so for Panic, you move into Metallica, correct?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
What was the experience like joining that band and becoming the spokesman and the lead guitarist? I mean, was that surreal for you at all?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Wow. Four, soon to be four black belts. Yeah, soon. Holy shit, man. That's a lot of training. What's your training regimen like? Do you train often?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And so if everybody was drinking that much, were there drugs involved too? I liked to smoke pot, but there were no drugs. Why do you think they singled you out of the bunch?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Dave Mustaine, welcome to the show. You're welcome. Thank you for having me. I've been super excited about this. Huge Megadeth fan, grew up listening to that stuff. And just to have you here is like unreal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Pretty similar. How long was it before you got back in the saddle?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Well, Dave, let's get into the life story. Where did you grow up?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Killed him over a bologna sandwich?
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
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Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
How did you come up with the name Megadeth?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Yeah. Yeah. And how fast was it? How fast did the Megadeth develop into what it is?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I mean, what is the life of a rock star like? I mean, now you're in it. You've got a record deal. You're doing concerts. Tons of people are showing up. What does a day in the life look like?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
In June, you'll celebrate the 40th anniversary of Megadeth's debut album, Killing Is My Business and Business Is Good. Thrash metal pioneer whose guitar prowess has landed you among the top guitarists of all time, influencing generations of headbangers. Cancer survivor, having beaten throat cancer in 2019 while still crafting one of Megadeth's fiercest album,
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
22 years old? When Megadeth started, yeah. Were you ever into the... We'll save that for later. I want to get into some addiction stuff, but we'll save that for later. But I mean, when's the first concert when you show up and there's just thousands and thousands and thousands of people out there?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Well, kind of what I'm getting at is the adrenaline that I'm, and I've never done anything like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I think I'm past my time, even if that was on the cards for me. But, I mean, you know, but I'm no stranger to adrenaline. I mean, going out on operations and and hitting targets and stuff like that, there's a major adrenaline rush, and you get addicted to it. And so I'm kind of, in a weird way, maybe trying to relate to you a little bit with the rush that maybe you felt.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Was it like a light switch? Did it go from a couple hundred people to Tens of thousands?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I mean, what was the first album that went platinum?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
sorry i keep asking age but how old are you mid-20s when first one goes platinum yes i mean how are you intaking at that young age all the fame and all the notoriety and albums going platinum and i mean was that was that how do you navigate that i didn't understand the question i'm sorry how do you navigate
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
the rise to fame and all the exposure that you're getting and, and, and the fans and all of that. I mean, that's a lot to take in for somebody that age.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
There's a lot to unpack there. Sure. So four years old, your parents separate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
What's the secret to a successful marriage?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. How long after you guys got married was Justice born?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
How did you manage being a husband, being a father to your two kids, touring, all the exposure? I'm sure women are throwing themselves at you left and right. I mean, how do you manage all that? No, they walked.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And you got sober before you guys met?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Yeah, yeah. How bad did your addictions get?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I mean... I'm three years, three years up is a little over three years. And I mean, I can, Totally relate with addictions. I mean, I was addicted to pain pills, benzos, Valium, Xanax, hydrocodone, tramadol, oxy, Ambien, putting down damn near two-fifths a day of vodka.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
You've done all those? Yeah. Was it a regular...
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
What is it that got you sober? I mean, why did you?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
So were you... I mean, my editor and good friend grew up as a Jehovah's Witness, and then I don't know if you would call it escaped it, but that's what I call it, escaped it, because it sounds very, extremely cultish. Yeah. And they have destroyed his relationship with his son and the rest of his family. Did you get sucked into the religion?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Your arm injury. Yeah. Is this about the same time that you stopped doing, I mean, I read that you stopped doing witchcraft around 30. Sounds like it went on for about 15 years.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
It sounds like you were in some, I think you described it as a satanic depression.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
So do you think you were possessed?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Have you ever seen anything supernatural?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Oh, I've had several occurrences where I've experienced things, not necessarily seen, but heard or... Feel.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
It's wild. I've had a bunch of these experiences. One of them, I was interviewing a friend of mine, priest, his father, Dan Rehill. He's an exorcist. And I remember when he came in here, he was like, look, he's like, weird shit happens when I start talking about this stuff. He's like, the cameras might go out, who knows what. And he was talking about exorcisms.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And then he brought up Christ and the AC unit right there just went on full blast, like immediately just started whooshing. I mean, I've had a bunch of these experiences, but that's awesome. It's made me realize how real the.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
spiritual realm is it's real and you know just to move on a little further I mean after at some point after you found Christ again you quit singing you quit performing certain songs what songs were those it was only because I didn't didn't really know what I mean I knew what I was singing about but from a spiritual point of view I didn't really know
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
No, I went down to a facility in Mexico called Ambio Life Sciences. Now the guy that runs it is a good friend of mine. His name is Trevor. I actually went down there when this show started.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
really getting big because i i could not be in the moment with my kid and then my son was just born and so i was trying to manage it all be a good husband try to figure out how to be a good new father and i just i couldn't be in the moment and i was still addicted to pills and i was still addicted to still an alcoholic and uh although i toned it down quite a bit
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
but really what I went down there for was anxiety of the rise of the show and being in the moment. And I went down there and I did this stuff called, have you ever heard of Ibogaine? Ibogaine. Ibogaine comes from a root in Africa. I think the only place you can find it is Gabon. And I'd had former colleague after former colleague come on the show and talk to me about Ibogaine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
about psychedelic therapy for PTSD, traumatic brain injury, curing addiction, especially opiates. Because that's just something that the veteran community really struggles with. You go... You go to the VA, you get a doctor, they put you on pills, or any doctor, and then rather than weaning you off the pills, they just feed you more and more and more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And then if they do cut you off, a lot of guys wind up on the streets looking for heroin. We were talking about my best friend earlier. That's how he died. And I went down there, like I said, just to be in the moment with my new family. And I came out of that experience, like a 12-hour experience to take a capsule.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And it was like everything that was poison that I was putting into my body disappeared. Um, I had like this intuitive sense and it, it took away all my cravings to get back on pills or to keep drinking. And I kicked it that day. That was, uh, Valentine's day, whatever three, 2022. And, um, and so I've done a bunch of interviews on psychedelics and, and what I found was the science behind it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
It replenishes all the receptors in your brain that have been beat to shit from opiates, from Adderall, from cocaine, from all of the stuff, booze. And when it replenishes the receptors, it takes the cravings away. And so it's literally like a light switch. It was just like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
i had no cravings i had i didn't want it i haven't had a drop quit smoking weed for for a long time and then that kind of came back but i'll smoke pot every once in a while too Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Yeah. But all that shit went away. Even sugar and caffeine went away for a long time. I still haven't drank coffee.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
But it really, like, it helped me. And it's helped, I have no idea how many people it's helped, but it's just about everybody that I served with with the exception of a few have, cause it's like the same story, man. Everybody's story is different, but it all is very similar going down the addictions. And, and, and, and, and on top of that, it, it, it, man, it's just like, it cures the mind.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And so another thing that it does is like with, with post-traumatic stress and, and TBI and post-traumatic stress, which is, it puts a blocker, there's like the neurons in your brain move through a thing called the default mode network. And that's basically from the front of your brain to the back or yeah. And that's how they do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
But when we were born and you're younger, the neurons communicate through these neural pathways in your brain. And as we get older and you start seeing people get set in their ways and addictions and all that kind of shit, it's because the neurons get lazy and they use the default mode, default mode network. which is like a highway.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
The Sick, The Dying, and The Dead, which is the topic of a book you're working on called In My Darkest Hour. Now a vintner with House of Mustaine, blending your passion for music with fine winemaking, relaunching Megadeth beer in the UK and Europe with a Pilsner, IPA, and Zero beer called Rattlehead, a family man married to Pamela since 1991 with two children,
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And so what these psychedelics will do is they'll basically put a damn roadblock into the default mode network, and it forces the neurons to reopen all these neural pathways that have not been used in decades. And you're able to look at a lot of things that have happened in your life from a different perspective.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
kind of like an unemotional perspective and it makes certain events how do i say this it makes it makes certain traumatic experiences in your life it's it spins it from another perspective and kind of makes it puts you at peace with whatever happened to you right and um and then after it was like a week-long
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
thing where they they like get you ready for it and teach you breathing techniques and all these other things and then you do it on a wednesday you do the ibogaine on a wednesday it's like a 12-hour experience then you have what they call gray day which is like the worst fucking hangover you could ever imagine And then on the Friday, you smoke, have you heard of 5-MeO-DMT?
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Oh, man. Man, you got some good. It's a toad venom. It comes from a toad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Yeah, and you smoke it, and you have a full-on death experience. Oh, that sounds fun. Well, it's not. But the death experience lasts maybe 30 seconds, 30, 45 seconds.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
No. It's in your mind. So you smoke it, and then you do a count backwards from 10. And it's like the most anxiety, most fear I've ever felt of all my time in combat, everything that I did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
This was like in your brain. So what happens is... is apparently, and I might be a little off on this, but when you die, your penile gland in your brain empties. And whatever's in there, I can't remember the chemical. Penile? Maybe it's serotonin or something. I don't know what it is. But it dumps, and it gives you this euphoric experience. But before that, in your mind...
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And that's what happens with 5-MeO is you get a penile gland dump. But before you kind of cross over, in your mind, you are 100% certain that you are going to die. And all the, like, you start, you start, separating from everything that you're attached to. And it kind of starts with like all the bullshit, maybe like, I don't know, fucking possessions or money or whatever it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And, and, and like things just start offloading. Like you're like, okay, I can let go of that. I can let go of that. But it's a very, it's a very, Like I said, it's the most fear, most anxiety I've ever felt. And the last thing for me that I could not let go of that I was hanging on to is my wife and my son.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And I remember thinking, I cannot depart this fucked up world and leave my wife and my son behind. I have to be here for them. And then I let them go. And once I let them go, it felt like there was this tar. It was like I didn't see anything. It was like a...
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
It was like an intuitive experience and I felt like all this tar was like wrapped around my heart like covering my heart and I could I could couldn't see it but I could It was like it was coming off my heart and then my heart was pure again and then you And then once you die and you let everything go, you cross over into this other realm.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And then in the other realm that you cross over into is like pure bliss, very euphoric. And I swear, I think it's like a,
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
spiritual realm that we don't have access to or maybe we had asked access to it like way early on for language and electronics and all that these kind of distractions and shit but but you you i i think you tap into the spiritual realm and like i'd always heard about energy and you know shit like that tesla stuff yeah well not that kind of stuff like you know like hippies talk about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Well, good energy, bad energy. Yeah. And I never bought into that. And I always despised hippies being a seal and a CA contractor. And, but after that, like I opened my eyes, And we were at this little beach house down in Mexico and I could see, I swear, man, I could see energy flowing from the islands into the water, up the beach, into the trees.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And I could, it was like the first time I had realized that the hippies say this shit too. Everything is one, everything's connected. And I was like, I could just intuitively like see it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
I wouldn't say I've seen that, but can you? Yeah. Who do you see energy fields around? I see it on you right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Well, when I crossed over... I could feel the presence of people that I love. Gabe. Gabe was there. I didn't talk to him. I didn't see him. I could just... This Gabe? Yeah. I could just feel him. And, man, it was... It was amazing. And that lasts for about 15 minutes and then you come out of it. And that's actually, I guess, what maybe sparked my journey back to Christ.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
Because I never really thought about it when I left home and joined the SEAL teams. It just... I wouldn't say it doesn't have a place in the SEAL teams, but it's just not really discussed, at least in my experience. And it's all mission-oriented. And women and bar fights and booze and drugs and all of that shit, at least when I was in. And... It all went away, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
It made me realize, okay, there's definitely something bigger than us in this universe. And that sent me down like, I don't know, man. I started looking into energy and I started looking at, I still watch them, but. More documentaries than I can count on the universe and shit like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#203 Dave Mustaine - Megadeth Co-Founder & Frontman
And then I had an experience in Sedona that brought me to Christ where we were kind of talking about this earlier, like weird coincidences and shit like that that happens. The Vortexa. Yeah. Well, that's why I went to Sedona, because I was like, oh, man, I want to feel this energy fields, because there's all these exposed energy fields out there. I went up there. I didn't feel shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Like, what happened?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Do you remember when I had to shave my head?
Shawn Ryan Show
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Yeah, I mean, I get it. The scene you did, this is the one that got me fired. Okay. What? Here we go. I love the excursions with me and Welling. It's everything that Superman stands for. It's Talkville. Talkville, we always talk about it. It's a great thing. The Smallville Rewatch Podcast.