Shaun Walker

And illegals had all these same dilemmas, but they were just heightened 10 times over by this kind of extraordinary secret that they had a second life as Soviet citizens.

What I'd love to say, it was a phenomenal journalistic scoop that infuriated Vladimir Putin. But it was basically early on in the full-scale war, in the summer of 2022, I think the Brits must have put sanctions on a certain number of Russians. And as the Russians love to do, they put reciprocal sanctions on whoever's sanctioning them. If you sanction me, I'm going to sanction you back.

What I'd love to say, it was a phenomenal journalistic scoop that infuriated Vladimir Putin. But it was basically early on in the full-scale war, in the summer of 2022, I think the Brits must have put sanctions on a certain number of Russians. And as the Russians love to do, they put reciprocal sanctions on whoever's sanctioning them. If you sanction me, I'm going to sanction you back.

What I'd love to say, it was a phenomenal journalistic scoop that infuriated Vladimir Putin. But it was basically early on in the full-scale war, in the summer of 2022, I think the Brits must have put sanctions on a certain number of Russians. And as the Russians love to do, they put reciprocal sanctions on whoever's sanctioning them. If you sanction me, I'm going to sanction you back.

So they released a list of about 50... British journalists, politicians, analysts, all kinds of people. My claim to fame is I was number one on the list. But there was also every other journalist for The Guardian who'd reported from Ukraine pretty much was on this list.

So they released a list of about 50... British journalists, politicians, analysts, all kinds of people. My claim to fame is I was number one on the list. But there was also every other journalist for The Guardian who'd reported from Ukraine pretty much was on this list.

So they released a list of about 50... British journalists, politicians, analysts, all kinds of people. My claim to fame is I was number one on the list. But there was also every other journalist for The Guardian who'd reported from Ukraine pretty much was on this list.

And yeah, and actually most of the people, what was frustrating about it, most of the people on this list were not people who were ever going to Russia. So they get to sort of very proudly put on their biographies that, you know, I've been banned by the Kremlin. Whereas, yeah, I mean, I was I was last there a few months before the war started, the full scale war started.

And yeah, and actually most of the people, what was frustrating about it, most of the people on this list were not people who were ever going to Russia. So they get to sort of very proudly put on their biographies that, you know, I've been banned by the Kremlin. Whereas, yeah, I mean, I was I was last there a few months before the war started, the full scale war started.

And yeah, and actually most of the people, what was frustrating about it, most of the people on this list were not people who were ever going to Russia. So they get to sort of very proudly put on their biographies that, you know, I've been banned by the Kremlin. Whereas, yeah, I mean, I was I was last there a few months before the war started, the full scale war started.

I was continuing to go back. I'm obviously, you know, it's it's really quite sad and depressing to see what's happened to the country. But I would it doesn't feel a good feeling to not be able to go after I spent so many years reporting from there.

I was continuing to go back. I'm obviously, you know, it's it's really quite sad and depressing to see what's happened to the country. But I would it doesn't feel a good feeling to not be able to go after I spent so many years reporting from there.

I was continuing to go back. I'm obviously, you know, it's it's really quite sad and depressing to see what's happened to the country. But I would it doesn't feel a good feeling to not be able to go after I spent so many years reporting from there.

Thank you very much for having me.

Thank you very much for having me.

Thank you very much for having me.