Sean Carroll

That's perfectly okay. Not everyone needs to be. There's things that I'm not into. That's okay. But I did do this episode specifically for two reasons. Number one, Even if you're not into cocktails, I think the lessons are broader.

That's perfectly okay. Not everyone needs to be. There's things that I'm not into. That's okay. But I did do this episode specifically for two reasons. Number one, Even if you're not into cocktails, I think the lessons are broader.

I think that the idea of balance and harmony and the idea of trying different things out and testing them in certain ways, understanding the errors and so forth, extends far beyond the idea of cocktails. I mean, not only obviously would it extend to things like perfume or cooking, but to art and beauty more generally. I think that this is just an example of a much broader phenomenon.

I think that the idea of balance and harmony and the idea of trying different things out and testing them in certain ways, understanding the errors and so forth, extends far beyond the idea of cocktails. I mean, not only obviously would it extend to things like perfume or cooking, but to art and beauty more generally. I think that this is just an example of a much broader phenomenon.

And the other reason is, you know, it's my podcast. I've been doing it for a long time. I think this stuff is cool. Sometimes you got to mix it up. You have to have something very different. You have to throw a curveball in there in the diet of pitches that you're getting.

And the other reason is, you know, it's my podcast. I've been doing it for a long time. I think this stuff is cool. Sometimes you got to mix it up. You have to have something very different. You have to throw a curveball in there in the diet of pitches that you're getting.

This is not our usual topic, but I think that the spirit of it you'll find is very much in keeping with what Mindscape tries to do. And at the end of the episode, we even come up with a Mindscape cocktail that you can try at home. So if that's not enough to make you want to listen, I don't know what would be. Let's go. Kevin Peterson, welcome to the Mindscape podcast.

This is not our usual topic, but I think that the spirit of it you'll find is very much in keeping with what Mindscape tries to do. And at the end of the episode, we even come up with a Mindscape cocktail that you can try at home. So if that's not enough to make you want to listen, I don't know what would be. Let's go. Kevin Peterson, welcome to the Mindscape podcast.

You know, it reminds me of a time when I talked to a mixologist who was actually in Vegas, and she explained to us, to Jennifer, my wife and I, that she had been a graduate student in chemistry, and she dropped out to go to tequila college. And her parents were not approving of that, but she turned out okay. So I don't know what your journey was like.

You know, it reminds me of a time when I talked to a mixologist who was actually in Vegas, and she explained to us, to Jennifer, my wife and I, that she had been a graduate student in chemistry, and she dropped out to go to tequila college. And her parents were not approving of that, but she turned out okay. So I don't know what your journey was like.

How did you get to go, you know, from getting a PhD in engineering, et cetera, to... being a mixologist?

How did you get to go, you know, from getting a PhD in engineering, et cetera, to... being a mixologist?

Okay. I mean, that's a pretty big leap. Did you, so had you worked in a bar before?

Okay. I mean, that's a pretty big leap. Did you, so had you worked in a bar before?

I mean, it's clear from your book. Actually, tell us your book. Do you have a book out?

I mean, it's clear from your book. Actually, tell us your book. Do you have a book out?

And it's very clear, not just that you have an engineering background, but you have an academic background, right? You're thinking about this, like you're theorizing, you're testing your theories. It's not a gimmick, I think. I mean, you're putting the scientific method to work here.

And it's very clear, not just that you have an engineering background, but you have an academic background, right? You're thinking about this, like you're theorizing, you're testing your theories. It's not a gimmick, I think. I mean, you're putting the scientific method to work here.

Yeah, I know it well. And I like the four categories that you have in the book, the physicist, the engineer, the perfumer, the bar owner. I think that's a great way to just to organize what we're talking about here. So let's start with the physicist. But when you say the physicist, the physics point of view on cocktails, you don't mean we're talking about

Yeah, I know it well. And I like the four categories that you have in the book, the physicist, the engineer, the perfumer, the bar owner. I think that's a great way to just to organize what we're talking about here. So let's start with the physicist. But when you say the physicist, the physics point of view on cocktails, you don't mean we're talking about