Scott Lucas
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Global News Podcast
Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
The bottom line here is that this is going to be the Kremlin's attempt to flip Donald Trump by giving him something shiny. This long-awaited call with Vladimir Putin to overtake the narrative of the Ukraine-U.S. ceasefire deal, which is there on the table and which, of course, Moscow is rejecting. We've known that for almost a decade that this is what Putin does to Donald Trump.
Global News Podcast
Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
He pulls him aside like he did in 2017 at a G20 meeting in Germany. He gets him at a summit like he did in 2018 at Finland. And through a combination of both flattering Trump and then putting Trump down, he actually advances Moscow's goals. And we need to be very clear what those goals are here. Putin and the foreign minister Sergei Lavrov are still pushing the maximalist Russian position here.
Global News Podcast
Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
They want recognition of Russia's occupation, seizure of almost 25% of Ukraine. They want a lifting of the U.S. sanctions on Moscow. And they want Ukraine to be weak and demilitarized with not only – with no path into NATO, but with really no security guarantees from the West.
Global News Podcast
Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
And – The Kremlin thinks they can get Trump to move towards those conditions with this call.
Global News Podcast
Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
Well, I mean, the reason why the team allows him to be in this position is Donald Trump gets what he wants when it comes to photo opportunities and invitations. We saw that with North Korea in the first term. We've seen it with other leaders. In terms of why I say flip, remember that only two and a half weeks ago, we were talking about Donald Trump pushing
Global News Podcast
Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
the Kremlin's lines that Vladimir Zelensky was a dictator, that he had no public support. And then we had that catastrophic meeting in the White House where J.D. Vance almost ambushed Zelensky. But then there are others in the Trump administration who still favor backing Ukraine. They don't want to side with Putin.
Global News Podcast
Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
So they worked with the Ukrainians and with Europeans, including Keir Starmer here in the UK, to get this Ukraine-U.S. ceasefire proposal on the table. That put the Kremlin on the defensive. Now they couldn't advance their goals. They had to look like the bad guys by rejecting the ceasefire or by trying to shift the narrative.
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Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
And that brings us to this call, which is if they get Trump to sort of support on social media, which will be his first reaction, their lines, then they've overtaken that ceasefire proposal and they've given the initiative back to those in the Trump administration, including J.D. Vance.
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Canadian PM Mark Carney says he wants to reduce security reliance on the US
Yeah, but what they owe Trump, what they give Trump is the shiny object of the call itself and playing to Trump's ego that he is, as he likes to frame himself, the peacemaker.