Sasha Stone
Appearances
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Oh my God, it's so great to see you, Megan. I mean, it's been the last time I think I talked to you, you had no, it was, there was no set. There was like, I don't even think you were on Sirius yet, right? That's probably right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You'll have to excuse me. I'm going to go pass out in the other room. I can't believe Megyn Kelly just said that to me. I am your huge fan. I listen every day. Today I was like, oh, now I'm not going to get to listen to Megyn's show. Oh, I am on Megyn's show. Well, I am delighted to share you with it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah. I think of myself really in a funny way as an Internet person first. Like I got online in 1999 and I became a early adopter building a Web site and, you know, talking to people. people from all over the world.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so I built this site, OscarWatch.com, and it was starting to get popular enough that Hollywood was paying attention to me and they were saying things like, who is this person and what's she saying about the Oscars that we aren't controlling because the media controlled it back then so much. But I liked being a rabble rouser.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I liked busting up that whole system and I liked having a voice where people didn't really...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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um see me as you i mean i'm not a video person i'm not like you megan i'm not you know i i i run from the camera i'm i'm horrified and terrified of it but so the internet gave me a chance to to kind of hide but as i stumbled into the oscars i just kept being guided by i have to tell the truth i have to tell what i think is true as opposed to what i know everybody else wants me to say but over time you know
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The more money they throw at you, the more you're expected to kind of go along with what they want you to say. It's just like politics. Right. It's just like lobbyists. And the Democratic Party is just like Hollywood, the way that it's run. And I look around the Oscar scene right now and I'm I'm embarrassed for how having contributed to it, you know.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I didn't start getting into politics until 2015. And I became a Hillary, a devout Hillary supporter. And I spent every second of every day online arguing with Bernie bros, arguing with Trump supporters and saying, we have to elect her. You know, the world will end if we don't. And and that got the attention of Neera Tanden and people in the in the Democratic Party.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And they singled me out as an influencer. And that's how I ended up being plucked from the Internet and put into this picnic with Joe Biden when he first announced he was running. And so it's really shocking to them that I turned the way that I did. It is because they didn't follow it from 2020 to now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And in fact, they will write directly and say, take that post down or, you know, and the more money you make, You know, seriously, the more money that you make, the harder it is you get in a trap.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I see all these other people that came up, these little bloggers that, you know, if you're if you're working like as a salesman and they're throwing all this money at you, what else are you going to do? You know, you're not going to be like, I'm going to say whatever I want to say. You can't. So it's just a little bit here, a little bit there. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Absolutely. Because the Trump parade was when I became a Trump voter and a Trump supporter. But before that, I was just I'm when I was on your show, even I'm not a Trump supporter, but I'm not a Trump voter. But and I had to say that because I knew the Trump line was one you cannot cross. You can be anti-cancel culture.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You can be critical of the studios, but you cannot say I support Donald Trump because he's considered, as you know, the world's greatest evil. Right. So So I have to be, I knew I had to do that. And if I ever did take that leap, it was going to be serious and it was going to hurt my business. I knew that. But at the same time, I knew that I'd been writing on my site for all these years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah, it was it was a conscious decision by me to kind of go public, meaning I didn't I have two Twitter accounts. I didn't want to keep pretending to be one thing in my lockdown Twitter account and hiding on my other. I felt like a hypocrite. And I also knew someone was going to break the story because we were heading into the election and I was very much pro Trump by then. And I had to say.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is what I think. And I also, to be totally honest, I wanted to join the fight. I wanted people to hear what I had to say. I wanted to refute tweets in public. I wanted to use my platform. But I had also had a conversation with the people who work for me saying, this is happening. We have to figure this out because it's going to happen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And they understood and they were going to build their own site. They just kept putting it off. And then came the joke about white dudes for Harris, which I can say is the thing that ended my career. It's hilarious to me. But I think what happened was Richard Hania or Hanania or whatever his name is. He's on subsect two. I think he tweeted something mocking them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I retweeted it and I said, white power. But I grew up in the 80s. You grew up. You know, we we used sarcasm. We were not cowed and fearful. We were you know, we love jokes. We love to be. And so to me, it's the funniest joke to say white power about these people. But. Boy, they didn't like that. That was blasphemy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah. And I didn't know that it was a problem until I heard from my friend who called me, my really good friend. And he said, what did you mean by that tweet? And I said, what are you talking about? I meant power to the white people. Yes. And then I was going to compound the problem by saying, what self-respecting white supremacist would claim white dudes for? It's like they just wouldn't.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But but that wouldn't go over have gone over very well either. And then another friend who works with me wrote me and said, you know. This is happening. It has millions of views. What's going on? And I said it was a joke. And he said, well, people aren't seeing it that way. I'm getting all these DMs. There's trouble.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I didn't take it down at first until I heard from her, the journalist Rebecca Keegan, who DMed me and said, hi, Sasha, I just want to write, do a story with you. Would you like to talk to me? I was like, what? In 25 years, these people have never asked me. to do a profile on me, a single mother with a little baby who built a website, who launched an industry, who was a woman-owned business.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Never once did they do that profile that I always thought would be coming, like, look at what she built, look at what she did. But now, Rebecca Keegan at The Hollywood Reporter wanted to talk to me, so I knew what it was. Obviously, it was going to be a hit piece, and so I felt absolute terror. And and I said, are you going to write it anyway? And she said, yes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I said, OK, well, I'll talk to you. And I did. I talked to her for like two hours. Stupidly, Megan, stupidly. I need to learn how to not, you know, like not be so forthcoming because I said things I really wish I had said.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah, but I'm just killing myself. Like, why did you say that? Why? Just give her what she needs to know. But I thought, I'm going to tell her my story, and she's going to understand it, and she's going to get it. But what I forgot was that if you're someone who wakes up with NPR, goes to sleep with NBC News and CNN and Rachel Maddow, there's no getting it. There's no way.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's like trying to explain witchcraft, and that there's no witchcraft in Salem. Like, they are so... And so anyway, yes, it... And then I was terrified and horrified and I told my staff and they quit the site that day because they had to. They have to make a living. Oh, no. So they all immediately set up another site. That got into the story, too, because they told her.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And it sounded like they were all jumping ship and that they were abandoning me. And she made it sound like all of this was happening because of the tweet. But it was actually her story that was causing the fear. And so that's where things really got bad for me in ways that I could have never guessed. These are people that I knew. They were my friends, I thought.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Um, I have never felt, and I know you felt it, I know, but, um, I've never felt that way. It was like a punch in the stomach. It was, it made me sick and I was horrified. I felt like I was in the twilight zone. I kept thinking, this isn't really happening, is it? But it was, um,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So Apple pulled their ads that day, and usually when Oscar season is revving up, all the studios write me and they say, you know, could we buy inventory? And I sell out my inventory every year, which I couldn't believe anyway, by the way. Never. I could never believe that I made money doing this crazy thing. But that was it. Only one studio decided somehow... To advertise.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so I'll always be grateful to them for that, that there was at least one that had the courage to say, you know, we value her voice. We're not afraid of the mob and we're going to advertise, you know?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'm not a very good. No, I know. I'm just not a very good business person that way. Like I, I, you know, my site is still for free. I don't even have a premium part of it, but no,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Oh, thank you. And there is, I was listening, watching you tweet with the Tiger mom, Amy Chua. And you were saying to her that it was great that she stood up to Yale and she didn't walk out. And there's a part of me that thinks... that I want to stay in just for that reason. But the other part of me is like, I don't know how interested I am in it anymore. You know, the movies that good.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's it's a corrupt. It's like the Democratic Party. It's corrupt. I mean, I like a lot of people in it. I like a lot of the movies. But I don't know. But a part of me, the fighter in me wants to, you know, continue to say things they don't want me to say.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I love your movie references. I know you are a movie fan. The other day, the movie you were talking about was Hannah and Her Sisters, the Woody Allen movie that had the death where he goes to different religions.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And his health. He's always been really weird about that. He always walks after dinner. He's very strict about his diet. Speaking of encyclopedic dogs, how do I know this about people? But I just do. But I love your movie references. And you bring them up all the time. Broadcast news, all the movies. And I always think she's a movie fan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And there's so many movie fans that just don't watch movies anymore because the movies are so bad. I call it getting woked, like you did with Conclave. Now, Conclave is my one advertiser, so I'm Oh, then I'll support them insofar as that. But like I call it getting woke. Like with Twisters, I felt like I got woke because Twisters was supposed to be they were selling Glenn Powell as the hero.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I was like, great, great. Finally, a movie that kind of seems like Top Gun Maverick, baby. But then I get there and it's like, no, it's not, because the smartest girl in the room also has to save the town from the tornado. And they put Glenn Powell in the barn and then they don't even let him kiss at the end. You know, it's like. A waste.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Have you been following that on your show only? And on TikTok, they're obsessed with it on TikTok, by the way. That would be a great entry point for you. I, you know, I listened to your side of it and I had taken the other side of it at first. I thought I'm going to defend Blake Lively. Of course, that's that's the only information that was being given. But it's getting weirder, the story.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Like, there's layers of it now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's right. And I feel like hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Like, I feel like there's something more there. I don't know that this would all be happening if there wasn't some sort of deeper layer of feelings happening. I don't want to say that because I don't want to. Yes. But I mean, it's a little personal, you know. Yeah, it's my yes. It feels a little personal to me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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There's something a little more than just a career spat. I think there's there's a rejection of passion there that makes me wonder about what's happening behind the scenes in conversation with her husband and.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah. And I hear a lot of conservatives, too, like Jonathan Turley just tweeted something out. And I understand that. I've learned more about the law listening to your show than I've ever known about it. So I understand that there's a legal process that could have perhaps been taken seriously. to fix the problems and the cases.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And maybe we go through the, maybe it's five more years down the road, they finally get released and all that. And I get the part where he says that it's not, it's not a good thing to just blanket pardon these people. What I don't understand is them saying that Um, it's his militia army and that, you know, he, he incited an, um, an armed mom to attack the Capitol. It's just not true.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Um, and I, I was, I, I had a personal way into that because in 2020, part of my research to getting to know the world of the right was that I was listening to Steve Bannon's war room podcast. Um, And I listened to it a lot. And then so after the election, I felt as a Democrat that it had been rigged and that it was such a big rigging that we'd never have a fair election in this country again.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so I'd left the Democratic Party, but I went back. over to MAGA because I had heard that they were gonna protest the election and that Trump was not accepting the results. And I thought, wow, really? That's wild. Of course, come to find later, we found out that the cabal that got together to try to rig the election had planned on him not accepting the results.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And in fact, I think they even planned on a mob attacking the Capitol. But if you followed the Stop the Steal, you knew what that was about. And if you didn't, you would never know because of the way the media has covered it. But with these guys, these patriots, they don't see themselves as violent, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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When they show up at a state house or whatever, when they're armed, they're not trying to threaten violence. They're saying, if you attack me, I will defend myself because they think the left is the violent side. And they are. They are. I come from the left. This is a by any means necessary party. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so the MAGA, the same way that, you know, MAGA, they're not the breaking windows attacking government property party. They're just not. And and if you know that about them, you know, even Alex Jones was out there on the in D.C. saying no violence, peaceful, peaceful only. And so. For me, I thought when I heard about the riot, I thought, what is that? You know, what are they doing?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Like, that's not the MAGA I know, you know. And and so as I watched this whole thing play out and I saw how the media portrayed them and I saw how people talked about them and described them as terrorists, I. You know, I began to feel not just defensive of them, but but worried about the truth of what actually happened. You know, we know about the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We know about what they did with with the Muslim men, the FBI entrapment case. So why wouldn't they if they knew something was coming to D.C. on January 6th? Why wouldn't they do that? Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'm not saying that the FBI set it up, but I am saying that it's possible that the FBI informants looking for a payout could have been working with a separate group, not Trump's group, to get this whole thing going, you know, so that they had this proof, this thing that they had with the Gretchen Whitmer case, the same thing. You know, it was like, these are violent people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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They're a threat to our democracy. They're a threat to our country. And here's proof. Oh, yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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never get tired of seeing that. It's just it is the greatest thing that's ever happened, I think, in American politics. And not just because, you know, I voted for him and I like I'm I'm happy with the way things are going now, but also because they deserved it. They deserved it. You know, you don't do that in America. You
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So with the pardons, I thought that Trump was saying, you know, we're just going to let this go. These cases were corrupt. They had you know, they were they thought that they were fighting for me and that they were, you know, defending the democracy or whatever in their minds, even though he had nothing to do with it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Because obviously Trump spent, if you read Ted Cruz's book, he spent an extensive amount of time trying to convince Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley to argue in the Senate. And they were doing that finally. So why would he have wanted a violent riot when all that did was hand power to the Democrats? Not just power, but absolute power. They could get anything they wanted after that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Look, it's done all the time in politics, you know?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But let me ask you this as a lawyer. The fact that she came out and said this is like Pearl Harbor and 9-11, doesn't that convict them in the court of public opinion and in D.C. so that they can't even get fair trials? No. That was the goal, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Oh, my God. I don't understand. I look at that and I just feel sadness because I feel like they don't have a chance. You know, we don't have a chance. If this is our media, we don't have a chance. It's the same thing it's been for the last, what has it been, eight years of this by now?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Are they ever going to give us a break and say, we're going to stop all this hysteria and we're going to kind of get back to America the way that... We all remember it as a normal country. Do you think anybody in L.A.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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No, no, I don't because they don't have a chance. It's so hard to explain to people. And when I tried, when I said, look, I was in a bubble and you're in a bubble too, like I just sound insane to them. They don't understand that your whole worldview is shaped by those around you, by your social media algorithms, by the media that you consume. And so to you, that's normal, right?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So imagine being one of these people that thought that Trump was Hitler. The idea that he was ever Hitler is absurd, but how does a country survive? How does a culture survive? How does Hollywood survive? How did the Democrats survive? being that disconnected from reality?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And how do we get back to a place where, you know, that's the thing about the right is they have their problems, but there's not a delusion. There's not as much delusional thinking because there are so many people who are allowed to dissent. You know, you're one of them. You won't hold back if you're bad about something.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You know, you don't just say, oh, I'm going to stay loyal to Trump or loyal to whatever. And that's that exists on the right. It doesn't exist on the left. Not anymore. True.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Right. Well, what they have is a collapsed empire. And so it's it's it reminds me a little bit and people are going to be horrified by this. And I apologize in advance. Please don't splash it all over social media, I guess, too late. But it reminds me of the South after the Civil War, because it was kind of like they refused to accept defeat. They held on to the past.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But it didn't matter because the world moved on without them. And that's what's happening now. The world is just moving on without the left. And I think that a lot of people, especially black men, are really into Trump. You know, he's cool now. And so I feel like they... They want to be in the cool side. You know, they want to be on the masculine side.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's why all the athletes were doing the Trump dance. And on TikTok, it's a whole different vibe because Trump is cool on TikTok, right? You have his granddaughter, Kai Trump. She's huge. She's an influencer now. Her little video on Trump got like a million views in like 15 minutes or something like that. She's hugely popular. Wow. He's popular with the young. He's cool.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Like they wear MAGA hats, as you pointed out, but to be cool. Right. I'm going to walk around town in my MAGA hat because I feel rebellious and edgy. Yeah. So and I feel sad for the left. I feel sad that they're still stuck. I feel sad that the people in Hollywood feel like they have to fear me the way that they do. Like, get over yourself.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
They're still getting together for their white dudes for Harris meetings.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
It is one, especially on TikTok. If you're a hot female, you want to be MAGA, right? That's where the boys are, right? You're not, and they're hot dudes. Hot dudes. Hot dudes for Trump. It's true. Instead of hot dudes for Harris. But so just to circle it back, which is that You know, I get it about January 6th. I understand. But I also see the bigger picture. I see what they've all been through.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
I see that they've been treated like second class citizens for so long. And somehow we forgave all the people who lost their minds in the summer of 2020. But we can't forgive them. And that's because it's race related for them. They see the Trump people as white and the protesters as black.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
And they see it all defined with their reversed hierarchy, which, you know, is what woke is woke ism or whatever you want to call it. But that's how the courts saw it, too. And to me, that's wrong. I don't know anything about the law, but it seems to me that that's intent. And they can't know intent.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
And just really quickly, I wanted to tell you this story that I started driving across country in like 2020. And I got pulled over by a cop in like, I don't know, Illinois or something. And it was right during the protests and stuff. And he pulled me over and I looked at him and I said, how are you doing? How's it going? And he said, not good. And he started to tear up.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
And I just thought the pain we've caused. over our madness and our hysteria. And now people would say, well, at least he has his life and he's not George Floyd and he's not killed or whatever. But This was a man who was working as a law enforcement officer who said that all of his friends were retiring, leaving the force. They all felt terrible because all of America thought they were racists.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
And we all went along with this and we're expected to go along with it for months and months. And then the Democrats turn around and say, oh, you know, we're the side that cares about cops. No, you're not. You know, you never were. You're the side that said cops were systemically racist. Defund the police. That's who you are.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
It's amazing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
No, that's so I don't understand what her play is here. She's actually going to make a run for it. Please make a run for it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
I don't even think she can make governor because if she does run, someone will run against her and they will beat her. She's just not. I'm sorry. She could be a prosecutor, whatever. She can't be politician.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Trump Ends DEI, 1/6 Pardons Media Meltdown, and Bombshell New Blake Lively Video, with Nicole Shanahan and Sasha Stone | Ep. 988
And they score again.