Sarah Spain

Nope. Right. And in the moment I said, I'm not on my period, I told him to stop behaving in a sexist way or whatever I said. And that's all I did. And it wasn't until years later that I was writing a story about harassment and how many people are that guy on that spreadsheet that it's like the worst kept secret kind of guy. And how nobody does anything.

Nope. Right. And in the moment I said, I'm not on my period, I told him to stop behaving in a sexist way or whatever I said. And that's all I did. And it wasn't until years later that I was writing a story about harassment and how many people are that guy on that spreadsheet that it's like the worst kept secret kind of guy. And how nobody does anything.

And so I called and I told ESPN, I think you should look into this person. Every time I worked with him, he said sexist things about women. I was not comfortable working with them. And I didn't want to be contributing to it by not saying anything because I'm sure he works with other women who are, it's even harder for them to deal with.

And so I called and I told ESPN, I think you should look into this person. Every time I worked with him, he said sexist things about women. I was not comfortable working with them. And I didn't want to be contributing to it by not saying anything because I'm sure he works with other women who are, it's even harder for them to deal with.

And so I called and I told ESPN, I think you should look into this person. Every time I worked with him, he said sexist things about women. I was not comfortable working with them. And I didn't want to be contributing to it by not saying anything because I'm sure he works with other women who are, it's even harder for them to deal with.

And ultimately what happened is they interviewed a whole bunch of people to see who else had worked with him. And he is not a freelancer anymore and is not able to work with our company anymore. But it took me years to be like, I can be that person. And also the empathy factor. I was like, oh, but you know, he has a job and I, that gets in the way of me.

And ultimately what happened is they interviewed a whole bunch of people to see who else had worked with him. And he is not a freelancer anymore and is not able to work with our company anymore. But it took me years to be like, I can be that person. And also the empathy factor. I was like, oh, but you know, he has a job and I, that gets in the way of me.

And ultimately what happened is they interviewed a whole bunch of people to see who else had worked with him. And he is not a freelancer anymore and is not able to work with our company anymore. But it took me years to be like, I can be that person. And also the empathy factor. I was like, oh, but you know, he has a job and I, that gets in the way of me.

Yeah. Well, I mean, there's the extreme ways which have worked, which is litigation and threats and things like what ultimately resulted from Me Too and Time's Up, right? Where there was a feeling of fear that if you didn't change your culture and behave differently.

Yeah. Well, I mean, there's the extreme ways which have worked, which is litigation and threats and things like what ultimately resulted from Me Too and Time's Up, right? Where there was a feeling of fear that if you didn't change your culture and behave differently.

Yeah. Well, I mean, there's the extreme ways which have worked, which is litigation and threats and things like what ultimately resulted from Me Too and Time's Up, right? Where there was a feeling of fear that if you didn't change your culture and behave differently.

But to your point, Abby, there is the power of ascension within a space by people who are allies, male or female, wherein they can try to change the culture one step at a time. to make it better for the people coming up. It doesn't feel as dramatic as being able to change that your boss sucks.

But to your point, Abby, there is the power of ascension within a space by people who are allies, male or female, wherein they can try to change the culture one step at a time. to make it better for the people coming up. It doesn't feel as dramatic as being able to change that your boss sucks.

But to your point, Abby, there is the power of ascension within a space by people who are allies, male or female, wherein they can try to change the culture one step at a time. to make it better for the people coming up. It doesn't feel as dramatic as being able to change that your boss sucks.

But for instance, at ESPN, when I hear or see something from across our networks, which we have many, or people employed by us, I'll send it behind the scenes to the higher ups and say, did you notice that this radio host asked a female coach who came on whether the girls on her team were cute or what their outfits look like?

But for instance, at ESPN, when I hear or see something from across our networks, which we have many, or people employed by us, I'll send it behind the scenes to the higher ups and say, did you notice that this radio host asked a female coach who came on whether the girls on her team were cute or what their outfits look like?

But for instance, at ESPN, when I hear or see something from across our networks, which we have many, or people employed by us, I'll send it behind the scenes to the higher ups and say, did you notice that this radio host asked a female coach who came on whether the girls on her team were cute or what their outfits look like?

did you notice that this person that was on SportsCenter was doing a soccer highlight for women? And when they got out of the way of a penalty kick, asked if they were not wanting to get their hair messed up, right? Like these little microaggressions, I will send them along.

did you notice that this person that was on SportsCenter was doing a soccer highlight for women? And when they got out of the way of a penalty kick, asked if they were not wanting to get their hair messed up, right? Like these little microaggressions, I will send them along.

did you notice that this person that was on SportsCenter was doing a soccer highlight for women? And when they got out of the way of a penalty kick, asked if they were not wanting to get their hair messed up, right? Like these little microaggressions, I will send them along.