Ryan Dahl

a bunch of money to, to be, uh, spent, like you can go in all sorts of directions and like, that's all very conceivable, but I think the, there is, there is a real need to kind of focus all of that effort in one direction, like get on, add up all those factors and, and kind of make progress in one direction. So, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's a learning experience.

a bunch of money to, to be, uh, spent, like you can go in all sorts of directions and like, that's all very conceivable, but I think the, there is, there is a real need to kind of focus all of that effort in one direction, like get on, add up all those factors and, and kind of make progress in one direction. So, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's a learning experience.

Yeah, it's hard to answer in general, but ideally with data, ideally we look at some data and we say, OK, obviously this is the way to go. This method is faster than that method, thus obviously we do this. Or we took a survey and people prefer this to this. But very, very often you don't have clear signals like that or you just have some dirty signals or some intuition. Yeah.

Yeah, it's hard to answer in general, but ideally with data, ideally we look at some data and we say, OK, obviously this is the way to go. This method is faster than that method, thus obviously we do this. Or we took a survey and people prefer this to this. But very, very often you don't have clear signals like that or you just have some dirty signals or some intuition. Yeah.

You talk, talk to the people you trust, you, you take their opinions. Um, I don't, you know, not back in no days, nor currently do I believe that a project should be run as a democracy. You know, I, I'm, I'm just took a poll, uh, today about something. And, uh, uh, you know, I, I, I, I value people's feedback, but, um, you know, people's opinions on stuff, but, uh, ultimately, uh,

You talk, talk to the people you trust, you, you take their opinions. Um, I don't, you know, not back in no days, nor currently do I believe that a project should be run as a democracy. You know, I, I'm, I'm just took a poll, uh, today about something. And, uh, uh, you know, I, I, I, I value people's feedback, but, um, you know, people's opinions on stuff, but, uh, ultimately, uh,

You just got to think about it and weigh in all the evidence that you have and decide what is going to level up JavaScript, what is going to further the company, and try to decide that as best you can.

You just got to think about it and weigh in all the evidence that you have and decide what is going to level up JavaScript, what is going to further the company, and try to decide that as best you can.

It definitely is not a person.

It definitely is not a person.

Yeah, this is my idea. I actually wrote a previous open letter to Oracle, I think two years ago, on my personal blog, which obviously did not get a response. You know, when we were talking about, is Java, is Oracle... person or not. It made me think of a quote from Brian Cantrell, my former boss at Joyent, now CTO of Oxide. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower.

Yeah, this is my idea. I actually wrote a previous open letter to Oracle, I think two years ago, on my personal blog, which obviously did not get a response. You know, when we were talking about, is Java, is Oracle... person or not. It made me think of a quote from Brian Cantrell, my former boss at Joyent, now CTO of Oxide. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower.

The lawnmower is going to just spin its blade and cut grass. And he was referring to Oracle in that way. Oracle should not be anthropomorphized. Yeah, you know, it might surprise people to know that JavaScript is a trademark. It came through a partnership that Netscape did with Sun back in the day for this newfangled scripting thing in their web browser, and they called it JavaScript.

The lawnmower is going to just spin its blade and cut grass. And he was referring to Oracle in that way. Oracle should not be anthropomorphized. Yeah, you know, it might surprise people to know that JavaScript is a trademark. It came through a partnership that Netscape did with Sun back in the day for this newfangled scripting thing in their web browser, and they called it JavaScript.

And the partnership with Sun was somewhat dubious because JavaScript has nothing to do with Java, but they ended up calling it JavaScript and Sun. owned the trademark as a result. And Oracle acquired Sun, I think 2007 or so. And as a result, Oracle owns the JavaScript trademark and they, like dutiful lawyers do, renew it every year.

And the partnership with Sun was somewhat dubious because JavaScript has nothing to do with Java, but they ended up calling it JavaScript and Sun. owned the trademark as a result. And Oracle acquired Sun, I think 2007 or so. And as a result, Oracle owns the JavaScript trademark and they, like dutiful lawyers do, renew it every year.

Yet Oracle really has no, you know, they do have a product called JavaScript. You know, they have several products that use JavaScript like everybody does, but they are not a major player in JavaScript development, right? The major players being JavaScript. Google with V8 and Apple with JSC, Mozilla, of course, but nevertheless own this trademark.

Yet Oracle really has no, you know, they do have a product called JavaScript. You know, they have several products that use JavaScript like everybody does, but they are not a major player in JavaScript development, right? The major players being JavaScript. Google with V8 and Apple with JSC, Mozilla, of course, but nevertheless own this trademark.

And because of this, the standard for JavaScript, the spec for JavaScript is called ECMAScript. because they have to avoid this name. And there is not actually a JavaScript conference. You cannot have a JavaScript conference because Oracle will sue you. You have to have like JSConf.

And because of this, the standard for JavaScript, the spec for JavaScript is called ECMAScript. because they have to avoid this name. And there is not actually a JavaScript conference. You cannot have a JavaScript conference because Oracle will sue you. You have to have like JSConf.