Ross Lynch
Appearances
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I don't even have a preferred temperature. I just want it to be as cold as possible. I'm a 62-er.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I like your slippers, by the way. Oh, you like them? Yeah, they're pretty cute. You can wear them if you want.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, you put on my loafers. Okay, wait, so it tracks your what? Oh my God, you have huge, huge feet. This is nice. What size are you? I think like 11. Oh my God. What are you? Nine?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, it tells you your, I have an aura ring. Oh, the same shit. Same shit. That's cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, that is cool though. I'm interested in this. Okay, okay, cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Have you ever tried that? Like when a friend is sleeping and sleep talking and you whisper to them and try to have a conversation through their subconscious?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh. It was, yeah. That's a little shady. It was shady, right? Yeah. I definitely would be sussed out. Do you gossip? No. Yes, you do. No, I got no shit to talk. Can we talk some shit, though, maybe? I would love to. What do you want to talk shit about? I don't know. I don't have any... You know what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Me and my girlfriend... I'm trying to keep it private, so I'm not trying to announce it to the whole world, but I just did. Oh, okay. No, we were just having a great conversation this morning about certain things, and the conclusion was like... You know, the reminder of the conversation was like, I'm pretty much down for people to be who they want to be.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And like, I don't have anything bad to say about people wanting to do what they think is right for them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Obviously, if you're my friend and you're smoking weed every day and I see it having a negative effect on you, I'm probably going to say something. But at the same time, I feel like it's your life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And I might be like, hey, as your friend, I think this might be having a negative impact on you. But it's your life. Men are so simple.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Can you give me an anonymous example of something that's actually happened recently?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
We talked about that for like 40 minutes. Moral differences. That's a big one. Yeah. I mean, it's always surprising to me how people aren't more flexible. In, like, listening and adjusting to what could be more morally... New word? More morally just, I suppose.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You know, if you propose a good idea and it makes sense to me, I can definitely...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
reason and and and learn um i tend to be attracted to people i deem intelligent so i you know i the only reason to be in a relationship to me would be to grow and to you know are you good are you a good listener yeah i think so uh-huh i'm a really bad listener you literally said uh-huh yeah like i'm definitely not that's so funny no you are a good listener i'm a bad listener
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
At least you know about yourself, though. Are you self-aware? I like awareness a lot. And I like that concept.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
The R5 happened during, right? Pretty much when we got to LA. Yeah, okay. That was like 2009. We were like, yo, let's be in a band. We were watching like Fall Out Boy and shit. And we were like, this is sick. Let's do this. Meanwhile, like me and my brothers and sister were like, we would like go around L.A. We'd play anywhere they'd let us play.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
We literally would like play bars sometimes and then they'd kick us out because we weren't old enough to be there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I was probably 11, 11 or 12, 12, probably 12, 13. Yeah. 12, 13, somewhere in there. Um, we play like fairs wherever. And then, you know, meanwhile, we're like booking commercials, little like guest starring spots on TV shows or what have you. And then all of a sudden the Disney thing happens. And I remember my dad being like, this is going to change your life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And I was like, I, I low key used to watch the Disney channel. Right. So I was like pretty stoked, but I didn't think I realized that. You know, I'm just a kid, so I didn't really realize what was really to happen. And shout out to Carol Goldwasser. I was just at her memorial the other day, and she pretty much changed my life. Was she casting director? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So that happened and it changed my life. And then being on the Disney Channel, Hollywood Records reached out and was like, hey, we want to sign you as an artist. And I was like, I'm in a band, bro. Signed the band. Oh, okay. You're loyal. And it happened. And it was great. And that was R5. We had been R5 my whole life. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So we did that, and that was a really exciting time in my life, honestly, because we would do a season of Austin Alley, and then I'd go on tour with my family band. And then I'd go to Puerto Rico for a few months and film a movie, a musical movie, a Teen Beach movie. Of course. It was like a rinse and repeat for those three or four years. And was it like, did you like the routine of it all?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, it was super exciting. I mean, not without its frustrations, because you know, There's always something. Right. You know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
All the time. All the time. Like, before I could drive, my brothers would, like, be driving me to set. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
yeah yeah they would like when i'd be from tbh movie like they were pretty much there with me um but yeah great times do you so you were with hollywood records for our five yeah did you ever feel like restricted by them there's there's definitely some some interesting stories of happenings that happened with hollywood records um as time goes on And, you know, I feel like I have a little bit more.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I've, like, forgiven the situations and, you know, business is business and, like, it's all fine and good. I have pretty good relationships with the majority of Hollywood Records people. But you're not with them anymore. No, no, no, no, no. There were definitely some things that, like, happened that were like, all right, like, we should probably leave. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But it was great while it lasted and I have some dear friends that work there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I mean, people forget what's so interesting about Hollywood Records is they had Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, they did. She didn't fulfill her... They had Selena Gomez. They had Demi Lovato. They had... Well, that was, like, the Disney recording company. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's interesting is, like, Sabrina Carpenter became Sabrina Carpenter post-Hollywood Records. Of course. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And same... I mean, Selena Gomez... Miley Cyrus had Party in the USA with Hollywood Records. No way! Yeah, that was, like, one of their biggest successes. But since then, you know... Right. Um, but it's just, it's, it's, yeah, I, you know, they're doing really, really well. One of, one of the bands that, um, my brother manages called almost Monday.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
They just had a number one record at alternative radio, which was sick with the boys. Yeah. Oh, okay. So they're still, they're still at it. Oh yeah. Yeah. They're still cooking. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. And your brother manages bands now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's pretty much managing with our other music manager, The Driver Era. Okay. And then Almost Monday and some other things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Where is The Driver Era signed? We're independent. You're independent? Yeah, we've been independent the entire time, which is interesting because I feel like It's really great for us. Yeah. Um, cause we own the masters. We like business wise, it works for us. It's cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But upon having these like random viral moments, it's kind of interesting how some people are like, cause you know, I'll see a random post here and there and they're like, has anyone heard of this guy's music yet? All I see is videos of him dancing shirtless. And, um, I'm sometimes I'm, I'm urged to be like, yeah, it's because we're like an independent band and I'm just like more famous than,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
the band is really. Right. So like that, I guess that just happens on social media. But, um, there's definitely been a thought in the back of my head where it's like, well, maybe it is time to like get back into like the big machine, uh,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, there are one and only. You know, everyone's a one and only version, I feel like. Ross Lynch is here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
thing what do you mean to really give it a shot what do you mean the big machine thing well dude any oh like like signed to a label yeah yeah yeah like any of these like there are definitely a few outliers like jungle for instance had those those big moments with their music videos right and they had a big album they're independent so that was definitely inspiring there's definitely a lot of cool examples of indie acts that are doing really really well
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But at the end of the day, if you see an artist that's really, really popping still today, they're probably signed. A lot of people talk about the music industry. There's a lot of interesting things going on right now. There's a lot of excitement happening. And a lot of people talk about how record labels are a dying breed, but they're still... In charge.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Everybody has a bad day. Yeah. I'm definitely susceptible to frustrations about certain things. Ultimately, I feel pretty good about where we're at. Literally, we're gearing up for our biggest tour we've ever done. R5... Wow. Congratulations. So that's pretty sick. Like, we're doing well. Yeah. And we don't have to pay anybody. Right. Like, we own our shit. That's great. So it's cool. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, we do have to pay for the production and stuff. That's the difference. Yeah. You know, if other artists go on tour, they get tour support from their label and all that stuff. Which, I mean, the live music industry is interesting right now. What do you mean? There's just a really interesting business right now. In general. Yeah. There's a lot of ways we can go into that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, what's up? I don't know. What's up with you? Nothing much. It's a beautiful day. Southern California. Wait, I think I have that same exact watch. It's like the only nice watch I have. Is that retro? It's like 60s. Never mind. I just got it recently, actually. I was in London. No, yeah. Mine's not cool like that. You were in London? What were you in London for? I was touring. How was that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But to answer your question, you know, sometimes, yeah, like sometimes you do think, what's the next best move? Right. You know? But I'm happy with where we're at. How did the Driver era start? Essentially, we were getting out of our deal with Hollywood Records, and it was time for an adjustment. And Rocky and I, and Ellington actually, had been really just focused on...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
like we just loved being in the studio. We were like in there every day, just like making tunes. Um, and passions like my brother, oldest brother, Riker's passion was kind of going more towards cinema and directing and that kind of world. And my sister wanted to be a vlogger like straight up. And so we were just like, this feels right. Like, like it was me and Rocky do this thing. Um,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Ellington has actually come more back into the picture recently. Um, but it just felt like a natural progression. Yeah. And do you guys write all your own music? We do. Yeah. I mean, now we're getting more open to like collaborations. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Um, because I feel like that's really, honestly, that's one of the more fun things with music is like working with people and fresh perspectives and stuff like that. Um, The majority of our work is like either is like me and Rocky. Like sometimes I'll just be like at the computer just like making a song. Right. And then I'll be like, hey, check out the song I made.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And then everyone will be like, oh, that's really cool. And then they'll kind of like put their two cents in or like put a synth line in or whatever. Yeah. They'll elaborate on it. But a lot of the times the song will just start with like. You're just like playing around. How do you play around, Donna? Just like asking for a friend. Open a DAW, which is like a digital audio workplace. A DAW?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's what it stands for. Okay. In this case, I use Logic or Ableton and then I grab a guitar or a bass, put on a drum loop or something and just start playing. Riffing? To start going. Wow. But it's fun for me. It sounds fun. It's like recently at the end of the night, instead of turning on the TV, I've been painting. And it's just fun, bro. Painting? Yeah. It's just great.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's like the same thing. It's similar to that, though, when you're talking about making music. It's like you just have this canvas and you just see what sticks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I kind of feel like everybody can be artsy, honestly. No, see, you say... I definitely think more people have an aptitude for... Being basic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It was great, honestly. We just did like a European run, which is so fun. Yeah. It just feels a little more exotic. You're in European cities. Do you prefer European shows to American shows? Not necessarily. I think that touring is just a little bit more exciting because you're in new cultures every day and different languages, different people.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Is that from a productivity standpoint or is that more from a consumption standpoint?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But you do touch grass. You lay in the grass. Oh, for sure. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You got to go reintroduce yourself. You had a nice backyard out there. You had some rosemary growing. Oh, I do? I don't know if you ever do that. You can just put your hand in it. It smells great. I do? Yeah, it's a rosemary bush. Where? Right there. It's big. How do you know it's a rosemary bush? I saw it. Did you smell it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
After this, we'll go grab a little rosemary and just go like that in your hands and you just smell it. And what does that do for you? I'm sure there's I don't know. You ever put, like, lavender oil on?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. I mean, you kind of can't avoid them nowadays.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It was great. Troye was actually just texting me the other day. I think he's meaning to send me something. Hopefully it's a cool shirt because he sent me a shirt one time and I wear it all the time. What does the shirt say? I think it's from his album. It's a great album. Yeah, it's incredible. I'm really happy to have collaborated with Troye and I hope to honestly...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
uh, be able to like, you know, have a, have a, have a, a friendly relationship with him moving forward. Cause he, I think he's a great person. Then I love his family. Um, when we were in London, I was like, it was wonderful. Me and his mom and his dad and my brother got like a private show. Cause we were just at his soundcheck and, um, you know, they're doing the whole thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And it was just fantastic. Like me and his parents, we were just like dancing, like front row. It was like super cool. Just a great moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I would say I think I was surprised. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Whenever I'm making music, I tend to be listening to that music a lot. Got it, got it. To try and make it as good as it can be. Yeah. You know, like you're listening to mixes, you're listening to like, you know, structural difference, like whatever. Right. I put in a new guitar part or whatever. Right. So I listened to the I've been listening to our new album Obsession a lot. It's my obsession.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And just the rich history of Europe is always fun to be in. And honestly, people are stylish over there. So stylish. You're pretty stylish. It was because I was just in Europe. I'm like, dude, I want to... Checks out. But yeah, I don't know if... The shows are any different, to be honest with you. Our crowds are pretty great across the board.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like literally, that's like that's I literally had it in my notes before it was ever going to be called Obsession. And it's just like the note folder was called Obsession. Because of stuff you were obsessed with it. Yeah, I just thought it was like a cool... I don't know. I was just like, this is cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I guess that's hard to pick. It's super hard to pick, especially because of the way that we go about it. It's like all the songs are very personal. But, you know, there's a song... The next song that we're putting out is a song... There's two songs. One of them is called I Can't Believe She Got Away. The other one is called Don't Take the Night. And I think those are pretty cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
We're actually asking people... which one they want. Okay. So how did, I'm going to figure out, I'm going to figure out a way to like put up a poll or something and just be like, you guys decide. It's just based on title. No, no, no. There's like little snippets online. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. So that's kind of fun. That might be kind of a cool way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
She got away, right? I can't believe she got away. And then don't take the night. I really liked, I can't believe she got away off the album. It's just title.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, you did? Yes, I listened to the album. Oh, cool. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Hell yeah. It's a great album. There's more of where that came from, so I'm just going to keep doing my thing, you know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, I've been hanging out with this Chica, and she's honestly has like a lot of, she's been introducing me to a lot of music. I like that experience of, you know, listening to new stuff or stuff that you maybe weren't exposed to. She was playing me some stuff from this band called The Street. Oh, I've never heard of them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
the streets sorry but there's this amazing line in one of these songs that it's off this album called Everything is Borrowed and there's this song I wish he could just come in here and do that little line for us but he says something along the lines of I literally need to look it up because it's really a wonderful hey what's that song called Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
For billions of years since the onset of time, every single one of your ancestors has survived. Every single person on your mom and dad's side has successfully looked after and passed on to you life. What are the chances of that like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You know what I mean? Like, that ends with me. Just stuff like that. She introduced me to that song, and I just think that's such a great message. I mean, it's a beautiful message. It's one I clearly haven't heard. But it's just nice. That's beautiful. It's just such a great thing to remember that you are the byproduct of billions of years of
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Do you have somewhere that's been your favorite place to play so far? Honestly, Paris is up there. Paris is up there? Yeah. What do you love about Paris? It was partially the venue. It's partially some of the experiences that I've had in Paris. It's just kind of like... That's probably the city I've spent the most time in in Europe. So I just have a lot of great memories there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
of like life do you practice gratitude a lot I like to it's hard it's you know these things like you have to like regularly like that's why it's a practice because you have to practice it all the time and honestly sometimes I fall out of practice for sure yeah I'm definitely out of shape Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. It's tough. How do you practice gratitude when you do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I try to take things that I'm thinking about that are causing me subpar emotional reactions and I try to just flip the perspective on them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So if something's bothering me, I'm going to, instead of being like, I hate that this situation is this way, I'll just be like, how wonderful is it that I get to do this? You know what I mean? Oh, I love that. You just have to like, and it's work for sure. It's hard, yeah. But specifically deciding how you want to see things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Every single morning? Every single morning. You're going to throw up? Like, I feel like I am, yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, you should go touch some grass. I should go, like, be the grass. Yeah, for sure. Have you ever just, like, gone to a national park for a few days? A what? Like Yosemite? Dude, Yosemite is one of the most beautiful places in America and it's like five hours from here. What would I do there? You literally should leave your phone somewhere else. I'm just letting you know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Dude, no, literally, you're going to come back and you're going to be like, oh my God, life is like chill. I think you're overestimated. It might take a few days for you, but if you're waking up nauseous, though, don't you want to solve those symptoms? Yeah. Definitely not. Maybe I should go to Yosemite. No, I'm telling you, it'll take your breath away. Would you come with me?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I've been dying to go to Yosemite. That's why I bring it up. Should we go to Yosemite? I'm so down. Are you serious? Yeah. We get a little sprinter van, and we'll go up there for five days. Okay. And have a fire every night. Have you ever just sat by a fire in the woods with some close friends? It's literally therapy. No, no, I'm sure. That's just like not what my close friends and I do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's like where we come from. It's like where the Homo sapien, like where we originally congregated around a fire. No, I'm like in awe. It's like part of our DNA.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I honestly have been looking for an excuse to go to Yosemite. Here's my only problem. Okay. I got to go on tour in March. Me too. Yeah. You're also going on tour in March. So we're both going to be on tour. But April, Yosemite. April, Yosemite. Well, I got to do some more touring then.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But they're like weekend college shows, so maybe I can make it work. I want to go to Yosemite with you. Are you on tour in June too? Yeah. That's wild. We have the same touring schedule. I know. I think we should meet up. I wonder if we – I bet you we do overlap. There has to be at least – are you in the States the whole time? The whole time. There's got to be at least one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is. It's called Don't Walk Away. Right. Yeah, it actually opens with that, yeah. What inspired Don't Walk Away? It's just a little relationship I was experiencing for a moment. In Paris? Yeah. And it was great. Didn't end up working out, but it's a really good time, and it's a dear memory.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'd love to. That's gotta be so scary doing standup. I think that's gotta be one of the most.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Um... I literally just threw on an episode of this show called The Empress last night. What's that about? It's like this German show. It's like one of those, like, my mom and my sister were like, you guys got to watch this. So I was like, all right, I'll turn it on. But it's like one of those, like, renaissance, like, dramas. Oh, time period? Time period. I can't do it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, I actually kind of like those. Really? Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know why, but like for some reason I, I do kind of like those like romantic drama. What, where is it takes place in like what ancient Germany? I think it's Austria.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, I don't know if I am best about anything. I mean, you know... It can be small. There's a concept on – I'm really not trying to, like, promote what I'm – I mean, I put a lot of work into this stuff, and it is a reflection of my life. So it just makes sense for me to talk about it. But there's a song on this record called Better. And that is a concept, you know, is on my brain a lot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
relax a bit about but you know there's this concept of like self betterment often times I can't say that I get pissed about it but that's just the first thing I think of like you get pissed that you're not better at something than you want to be no I just I like I just get kind of like competitive with myself I guess about yeah ways in which I could be better I guess but most but honestly I'm a pretty cool cucumber like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, I mean, me and my brother have known each other our whole lives. Right, right. So there's that. But we've been doing this for like...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Things are going well, and I really try to put my focus on things that I deem to be important, which I think are relationships and getting out in nature. Right. You know what I mean? I really try to. I try to, at least. And I try to be an example of that for other people in my family, too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Because I feel like, especially living in America, living in this capitalist society, a lot of people are hell-bent on achievement and working, which is good. And I also feel that, too. That's part of the better conversation. It's just like, where's the balance in there? Yeah. I can't say that I'm pissed about anything, though. That might be annoying.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, I just feel like at a certain point, you just got to do your best and people are going to do what people are going to do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I do know what you're talking about, though. I've read a little bit about this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Sure. There's always a layer of— wanting things. There's always desire. It's just a human thing, I think. Yeah, things are going well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, really? You can't, like, drink. Is that why there's a ladder in your living room? What? Oh, I guess you can't walk under that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe that's symbolic, though, because you can't walk under the ladder that's in your living room. Love that. You know what I'm saying?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
What are you superstitious about? Like you can't like put on like chapstick and counterclockwise or something? Well, you know, I didn't think of that until now. Oh, shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And then like, that's a little reminiscent of smile.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I think I liked two. I preferred two as well because I just liked the, I liked how they made the whole like fame experience with fit. Like, I don't know. Like that was just such an interesting, um,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Mm-hmm. Oh, my gosh. The sequence with the dancers. Yeah, yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, my gosh, yeah. Honestly, I was a big fan of that. And by the way, I was, like, hooting and hollering the whole movie. Yeah, it's funny because it's, like— No, I mean, like, scared. Like, I was like, ah! Oh, really? Oh, for sure, dude. Do you get scared easily? Yeah. I mean, in real life, like, if we go to, like, horror nights, I'm, like, I'm pretty unfazed now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
When I was younger, I used to be pretty phased. Uh-huh. But when I'm in the situation and I'm looking at this random dude in a pig mask, I'm like, I'm not really scared of you. Right. But when you can really get into the imagination, then that can affect me, I think.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
We moved out here a few years prior to that in hopes of, like, being in the entertainment industry. Right. And we, like, started a band, and we were, like, doing, like, auditions. I was in, like, Kidz Bop commercials and shit. Were you really? Oh, yeah. I did, like, all this random stuff prior to Disney Channel. Uh-huh. I, like, had my first kiss in a short film with this girl named Posey.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Are you sure? Mm-hmm. Kiernan Shipka's in a movie about at least burlesque.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I've watched the two seasons before it. So I do want to check in. You know, I've never seen season two. Really? I thought season two was fantastic. Everyone says it's better than season one. I think maybe. Yeah. Like season one definitely had more of like a shock value because I feel like it was the introduction to the show. So everyone's like, what is this? Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
How do you even pick what to watch nowadays, though? Honestly. I'll tell you. Oh, no. Yeah, you know, for sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, my gosh. Thank you, because now I can think straight. How amazing does peeing feel? I don't know. Do you have that where, like, if you really have to pee, it's just a big old distraction? You can't think about it? I wish you told me sooner. I know. Same. But it's okay. It wasn't that bad. I'm present. We're present? Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. I see you. We see each other.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I like how they say that in the Avatar movies. Oh, they do? Like, I see you. You know, talk about... It's such a nice...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I actually really like Dune. I heard Dune's amazing. I really like Dune 2. Dune 1, I was like a little bit like, I don't know if I get it. And then I saw Dune 2 and I was like, oh, this is sick. Uh-huh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, just, like, I don't know. We literally, like, kind of wild. Like, I come from a big family dynamic, and we would just, like, do that long road trip from Colorado to L.A. in, like, a 15-passenger van. And we'd, like, flip the seats around so we could, like, we, like, made makeshift beds in the car. And we did that road trip probably, like, 10 times just in, like, hopes of, like...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I also think I got some clarity about the therapist thing, about the whole better conversation. It's like I'm sick of learning. Okay, if we want to talk about being pissed about something. Please. I'm sick of learning the same thing over and over and over again and not implementing it. The thing that I know that I should know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Just saying no to certain things or like... Right. Are you a yes man? You say yes to everything? I'm reasonable. Okay. But, but I need, but, but, you know, I know I just, uh, or like trusting yourself a little bit more, trusting your intuition a little bit more, if you will. Um, just little things like that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But I think for every single time I've gone against, that's a big one. Every single time I've gone against my intuition, I'm just like, oh, I knew this. I know. I knew. But sometimes. Now I'm here and I'm annoyed. Sorry, I just interrupted you and I'm feeling super bad about it. You're all good. Okay. I feel like that's a big part of conversation. It is. You know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I can do that same thing where I'm like, oh, what the heck? You interrupted me or whatever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, that would be – that would be concerning. It is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, okay. That's what I was going to say. It probably would make that confusing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's, that's definitely tough. Yeah. Like letting something go in the artist realm. Like that's, I, yeah, I feel like every, the artists that I know at least always have this weird love, hate thing about putting something out into the world. Right. Cause they're like, I do love this thing and I put all this energy and concentration and time into this project. Are people going to get it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
What's the reaction going to be? It's like this vulnerable exchange. You know, it's tough.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
For the most part, but I sometimes highlight it. Okay, cool. Yeah. If I'm like surfing and like in the water. You surf? I can. I can't say I'm like an avid surfer. But if my lifestyle is like beach oriented, then my hair will just kind of bleach itself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, yeah. But you have to, like— No, I'll leave my phone. Okay. And, like, go on hikes and stuff. What? And we're building a fire. Okay. And we're going to cook on the fire, probably. Cook what? What do you like to eat? We could roast some veggies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Are you a vegetarian? No. Are you? No, but I sometimes will eat vegetarian meals. Okay, do we bring our own food or do we need to catch it in the wild? We'll pull up to a Whole Foods before we go. Oh! Okay, we're good. We'll do bougie version.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, what's not bougie version? Not bougie version would be like we're going to water fast the whole time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Do you miss doing the road trip? Do you ever do it still? My mom just did it actually with my sister and her kids. My sister has four kids. Oh, no way. And the oldest isn't four yet. Isn't four? Isn't four yet. So she's had four kids in four years. Yeah. Isn't that wild? That's crazy. They're the cutest kids too. They're honestly like some of my favorite people alive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's like a cleansing experience. It's just like full-blown cleanse vibes. Okay. So I can't – no phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, you can bring your phone, but I'm saying like. No, no, no. If I'm doing this. When we go, when we're sitting by the fire or something, just leave it in the car. No, no, no, no. The phone can't come. I'm telling you right now. If the phone's in the car, the phone's with me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. I mean, you probably would go through like a withdrawal. I do. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and you go through withdrawal with anything. You go through withdrawal with sugar. What? Like anything that you're used to in your life, you will go through some sort of withdrawal probably. Like even the gym, honestly. Oh, I don't know if I have that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
If you are regularly going to the gym and say you get injured. Yeah. For sure. You're going to be like, oh man, I just want to, I want those endorphins that my muscles excrete when I lift heavy things. You know what I'm saying?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, you did? I did, kind of. How many sports do you play? Hockey's like my main sport.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You kind of grew up here. I kind of grew up here. So when were you playing hockey? I started when I was three. What? Yeah. Is that legal? It's just like pond hockey. Like you're just like out on the lake in the mountains of Colorado and we're just like playing hockey. Like on skates? Yeah, yeah. Do you ski? I ski and snowboard a little bit, yeah. Oh, okay. I'm pretty good at skiing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I just learned how to ski for the first time. Oh, really?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Can't check your phone when you're skiing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
We were best friends by the end of it. I love skiing for that though. You're just like on the mountain. It's beautiful. And you're out in nature. It's just like, it's vibes. But hockey's your favorite? Yeah, hockey gives me, yeah, hockey is therapeutic. Do you go to therapy? I have.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But I don't currently. Well, why? But Loki's like, she's so expensive. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know if I necessarily, here's the thing. I see that it would be beneficial for sure. I don't think I necessarily need it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Is she, is she done having children now? Or is she like, I think she, I think she wants six. No way. Yeah. Well, like I said, like we come from a big family dynamic. Like it's like, it's like, um, how many siblings do you have? There's five. Right. In my family. Yeah. Um, but it's like, it's like a, what's the word I'm looking for? You know what I'm saying? A little. No, no, no.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
it either honestly you're really in touch with nature yourself yeah and i and i think i think too like a lot of my core relationships can help me with what i need at this time in my life so i can rely on them for that which is a blessing for sure are you scared to turn 30 you know what i i can feel that there's a there's a real transition happening in my life
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
There's definitely something to it, but I don't think I'm scared, no. I think recently especially, I've been more consistently joyful. Yeah, I just know more. I'm pretty, I feel physically, I feel really good and strong. Well, you are. That would make sense. You know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And, like, yeah, I feel like I have a better idea of, like, what matters and, like, just, yeah, I just feel like I got a good grasp of things right now. So I think it's a good thing. Yeah. I think, you know, it's like you're approaching prime. So it's like, I don't think I'm there yet, I guess what I'm saying. Okay, well. Like, you know. I know. Kind of.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You're 25, so you got five years till you're 30. Don't remind me. I'm telling you, it's not that scary.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Dang. Because normally when I... I'm going to go the opposite route. I wouldn't just put yourself through unnecessarily pain and emotional turmoil on an assumption. I don't think that's a wise decision to make. For sure. So if I were you, I think for yourself, you're probably best off thinking... Whatever your situation is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I love this person and I trust this person and I'm going to do my best to have faith in the situationship until I'm proven wrong. That seems to be the more comfortable...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
though but then don't wouldn't you rather find it sooner rather than later well i mean but also it's like it's like they could just be innocently hanging out platonically they're probably not you don't think so no i don't i think after i've seen wild child one too many times oh it's so tough because there's not a lot of context in the question right i wish i would i wish i knew how long you guys have been dating right so that i wish i would have known why your best friend and your boyfriend are hanging out
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's part of the culture of our, but it's, there's another word for it. Like, what is the vibe of the word you're looking for?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's the worst. That's such an awkward situation to be in. So you do gossip. Well, after hockey, I might be like, dude, this one player is not a smart player. I'll be like, what is with his breakup? Whatever. And then he might be in the locker room next door, and I'll go to shower, and I'm like, oh, he heard everything I said. So that definitely doesn't feel great.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I thought it was the other way around. He didn't like her hideous yellow jacket. No, no.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Also, maybe just buy him a jacket. No. But you don't like him. You just like him. Tell your sister to buy him a jacket. Yeah. Sometimes girls do have to be like, wear this, honey. Has that ever happened to you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
The vibe is, like, it's a, it happens off, it's like, it's part of, like. Tradition? Tradition, thank you. Oh! It's like tradition. Okay, a tradition to have a lot of children. Do you want a lot of kids? I might. Yeah, I think so. I mean, we'll see. It's so hard. I feel like every time you talk to a parent, they're like, you're never going to be ready. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I like style. I like fashion. But I'll... I also like to play around. I'm down to experiment. If someone's like, oh, try this on. I'll be like, okay, I'll see if it's cool. Right. Okay, cool. Because also my life, think about my life. Since I was 10 years old, I was in situations where people were telling me what to wear. Interesting. You know what I'm saying?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I couldn't tell you. I don't really know. It was probably not an overnight thing. It was probably a gradual, like, oh, this is actually fun and I enjoy this process.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I wouldn't say that. There's probably a layer of that, sure. But mostly, honestly, if I'm going out, sometimes I have to negotiate whether I want to look stylish and pop out or if I want to be incognito and be kind of hidden so I don't have to worry about being approached by people. Sometimes. Sometimes. That's just the vibe. Do you like being approached by people?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I have a strange relationship with fame, to be honest with you. Tell me about it. I definitely like ideas of normalcy, but I also really like making people feel good. And I like what I do. So it's a dichotomy for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Not really, no. I didn't really have a... Well, I do. Yeah, I do. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, that's what's interesting about my life is it is surrounded by normalcy to a large extent. Having a big family. Right, right, right. Going to hockey. It is a relatively normal experience. I'm not out here hanging out with a bunch of famous people. like doing like these, I have, there's moments where I do really extraordinary things or I get to go to really extraordinary events and such.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's really exciting and fun. Or like, for instance, I get to go on tour for some months, but when I'm home, it's like, it feels relatively normal. And I feel like that juxtaposition sometimes is like kind of interesting to navigate because I low key forget. And then all of a sudden I'm in like some random airport or something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And then there's like all these people wanting to take a picture of me. And I'm like, oh yeah. And that's how you remember. Sometimes. Because I'm not over here thinking about it. I'm not one of those people that really gets high on the idea. I feel like some people do. I don't know. That's not me. I honestly was recently looking into the psychology of attention seeking recently.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Please tell me what you found. Just that it's natural. Love to hear it. And, you know, I honestly could do more on that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Really? So I'm a Capricorn and I don't know if I live off attention. I don't think you do. Yeah. It might be because I already, like I've gotten a lot of it in strange ways. And you get it on stage too. I get it on, yeah. I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So I definitely don't feel like I'm ready by any means, but I guess that's, you're never going to be ready? I guess. I feel like I'm never.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's definitely something that I think about though, because in order to do what I do, like, especially nowadays with social media, a lot of it's like, look at me, look at me. And like, I don't really get off on that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's not from attention though. I don't get like, oh, I need attention. It's like I need to grow and move forward.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Was it like your habits are getting – like I can't connect with you because you're high or something? No, no. Oh, you were working together. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, interesting. Yeah, no. In my experience, it's like if we're not vibing, then we just won't hang out. That's it for you? I just feel like there's just a natural separation. Like it doesn't – I don't know. I've never felt the need to be like, I'm going to stop hanging out with you. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I'll go to Yosemite. I'll just be like, we just don't hit each other up anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's impressive that you know that even, honestly. Really? I feel like, yeah. Thank you. You're like a marathon watcher.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, really? Yeah. Rocky's a Scorpio, my brother. Really? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So wait, if a SWAT team pulls up and they raid an establishment, why wouldn't they also be like, stop filming? Because from my experience or my understanding, when the raid is happening, they want everyone cooperating. The devil works hard, but Bravo works harder. You're kidding.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I feel like I get along with most everyone, honestly. Is that a bad sign? No, no, that's a pretty- Is that a red flag?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And she's talking shit. You want to hear it? You got to be kidding me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Best friend. That doesn't seem very friendly at all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I definitely hope. You're my friend, and I probably wouldn't want to be your friend either. I get it. Oh, I thought you were saying I'm your friend. No, I'm saying if someone says that about you, they're not your friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It pains you to say that you've been in a committed relationship? Yeah, they got it. That sucks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say break up, but you can't expect people to change. I mean, I definitely think people grow. I definitely think people learn. And I think that's through experience. And I think, unfortunately, people will be better lovers after heartbreak. Really? As sad as that is. Did you find that true for yourself? I learned a lot. I definitely learned a lot, for sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But you haven't been heartbroken. No, never. Have you ever been in love? No, never.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, maybe not yet, but maybe at some point though.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Is that like broken TVs? Oh, no, but you're also suspicious or superstitious. Superstitious, that's the word I meant to say. Yeah. So you, yeah, you wouldn't break anything probably.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Do you think that has something to do with you not being in a relationship?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I don't know. Honestly, I love like a dive bar. I would love to go to a dive bar with you. Yeah, like you play some pool. You listen to Taylor Swift? I know some Taylor Swift songs, but I can't say I'm an avid listener. Okay, well, you know what I was thinking of.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Did you listen to Brat at all this summer? No, not really. But Charli XCX was at the Troye Sivan show, and obviously Troye did a whole tour with her. Right. So I kind of was like... I probably should have said hi. We crossed each other in a hall, and we were like, what's up? She's so cool. I probably could have introduced myself. Yeah, I think she seems like a really cool person, though.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like, Brat, and then Short and Sweet, and then Midwest Princess. Like, that was, like, a really great year, honestly. It was a great, great year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Okay. I've definitely peeked at it. I've definitely listened to it. But when you say, did you listen? I'm thinking, was it on repeat? Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, it was a cultural... It had cultural significance.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I do. He's just released, or he's announced an album, yeah. I've been listening to a lot of Bon Iver lately. I just feel like you would listen to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there's definitely some good stuff in that catalog for sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. A hundred percent. Also, I feel like this is another context situation where it's like, how did he react when he found out he forgot or like, did he make up for it? You know, I feel like there's other factors. Like, I guess, what is she asking? She's not asking. She's asking if that's okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Ooh. I think, uh... I think, I think ultimately some self-respect is attractive. And if you just keep giving into his whims, then he's going to keep doing the same thing. So ultimately you're probably going to have to be like, you know what? This doesn't work for me. If it doesn't work for you, if it works for you, it works for you. Right. But if you're already like, you know what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I want a relationship. You probably got to go somewhere else.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Okay. I have such a victim mentality and I want to be better. What's your advice for overcoming this mindset and taking control of this toxic behavior? Wow. First of all, good on you for noticing that. A victim mentality is definitely difficult to navigate.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, that's what makes it so challenging is when is that the accurate...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
A hundred percent. I have moments of this as well. Yeah. I definitely think it's just something you got to chip away at. Right. Like you just got to like try to change your thoughts into a more gratitude approach.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And how you start your mornings. How do you start your morning? Well, I'm not perfect, you know, but it's nice to be in the sun. You start every morning in the sun? I mean, I'd like to. It's probably not. I mean, I live in L.A., though, so it's like the sun's there. Do you get affected by the seasons easy? I think everyone does. Yeah, I definitely do. For sure. Like your body has a response to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Right. I love summer. Well, yeah, because there's a lot of sun. There's a lot of energy. You know, it just makes sense.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, absolutely. I can't wait. What are you excited for?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'm probably going to go to Europe after my tour, too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'll probably be around the western side of Europe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I want to go to Italy, too. I love Italy. Italy's amazing. There's so many great spots, honestly. Yeah. So many great spots.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, that's usually the response. I think we learned a lot of good things. We learned that Prada slippers are comfortable.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
They're not bad. Yeah, they're very comfortable. They probably could use a little cleaning.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, and the importance of being in the real world. And touching grass. Yeah, for sure. Also, we learned about some great shows to watch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I learned about some great shows to watch and how important real housewives are. Is culturally. You will love it. I'm sure I will.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I know. And I'm probably going to be like, these people are crazy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But it's also hard because these aren't the biggest postcards in the world and we don't need a whole monologue. I don't mind it sometimes. I mean, if it's like a really good juicy story, I'm down.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Do you want to say goodbye to the pussies? Bye, pussies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I did have an iPod. What iPod did you have? I don't even remember. It was probably like one of those early ones with the swirling thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Mine was like rectangular. That was mine too. I did not fuck with the shuffles. Yeah, the shuffles because they didn't have a screen. It's also like what am I listening to? Totally. Totally. Well, it's kind of exciting nowadays, actually, to maybe not be influenced by, like, album art and stuff. And just being able to, like, appreciate the song for the song.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, totally. But then oftentimes, like, you're out and about in life. True. And you just hear a song, you're like, this is amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. She opened up for us, though, on our last LA show. Oh, she did? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
There was a song, we were on tour somewhere in some random city, and I was like, I had been sober for the whole tour, and then finally I was like, all right, tonight's the night. I'm going to break the sobriety thing that I was trying. I always feel like it's good to do that every now and again. For sure. Yeah. But we were just at this random bar and this song came on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I can't even... I don't even... Oh, it's called Like a Hunger. And that hit me pretty hard. I was like, dude, this song is sick. Do you usually go sober on tour? I feel like even culturally on a larger level, I feel like more people are talking about sobriety, the negative effects of alcohol.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like a lot of people... I don't know if you know this, but I think the origin of the word alcohol, I think it's Arabic. And it means... Like soul-eating energy or something around those. And I just thought that was kind of interesting. Soul-eating energy? Soul-sucking energy. Something like that. I don't know. You might have to fact check this. What? Body-eating spirit. Body-eating spirit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So that's kind of interesting. Like that's like the origin of the word. But listen, I love having a good time at the same time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, you definitely see people, you know, acting up a little bit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, I'm pretty heavy. Okay. Like, I can drink a lot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like a count? Yeah. I mean, I'm not really the type that will count. Okay. But I also don't like being obliterated. Neither do I. Everyone needs to find their sweet spot for a little boogie and then call it quits. It took me a really long time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I mean, if you drink on an empty stomach, you're just— Have you ever drank on an empty stomach? Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. And you still haven't blacked out? No, no, no.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Again, there's a lot of science coming out about it, you know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That is affecting your brain in a serious way. Like what? I'm pretty sure you're talking about memory and all sorts of stuff. What sorts of stuff? If you want to talk about sleep, apparently it can block your REM cycle of your sleep, which is like rapid eye movement, which is where your dreams occur. Oh yeah, I didn't dream for the longest time. Totally. Alcohol does the same thing, apparently.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
arguably the most important thing we do right how many hours do you get a night eight or not eight or nine wow good for you it depends it depends because like i don't know it depends i like to get eight hours but life happens do you sleep are you a hot sleeper or cold sleeper cold me too me too wait i feel like you were just about to say something though you were talking about you just stopped smoking weed yeah because someone told me i was gonna be schizophrenic
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I get it. I've been, I've been, I've smoked weed, you know, it makes me more creative. I think that's a, I think that's a, I don't think, I don't think that's real. Tell me more.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. I think for a moment, it gives you a dopamine release, and it definitely excites your brain, you know, for a moment. Right. But then, honestly, after that initial high, you're kind of just... And hungry. And hungry, yeah. And you're distracted easily. And, like, probably you are more susceptible to, like, paranoia or anxiety.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's really, like, I think these claims that, like, oh, I'm more creative. Because a lot of people talk about it. They all talk about how it's not addictive.