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Richard Lindzen

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

It turns out very poorly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

Because most climate change, by that definition, is regional.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

So, for instance, in this area, let's say the states like Louisiana, Alabama, Gulf states, they had a period of cooling when the rest of the country was warming.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

Nobody paid much attention to it because that's normal.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

Different areas do different things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

You have reasons why it's local.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

I mean, if you're near a coast, near a body of water, the circulations in the ocean are bringing heat to the surface and away from the surface all the time on time scales ranging from a few years for El Nino and so to a thousand years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

And so this has nothing to do with the global average.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

The whole business that the global average is at issue was something that was created for people studying different planets.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

And so you'd look at the average for each planet, and that varied quite a lot, so it was useful.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

But for looking at the Earth's climate, I'm not sure a global mean is a particularly useful device.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

You know, that's something there's argument about.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

I think, you know, for instance, a man called Milankovitch around 1940 made a convincing argument.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

And I think now it's correct.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

that orbital variations created a change in insulation, incoming sunlight, in the Arctic in summer.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

And that controlled the ice ages.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

And the thinking was pretty simple.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

He was saying that every winter is cold.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

Every winter has snow.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer

But what the temperature or the insulation or the sunlight in the summer is determines whether that snow melts or not before the next cycle.