Rich
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Crook County
6 | Fire In The Sky
Kenny's twin brother, Rich, revealed an abusive childhood. I remember eating dog food because I was so damn hungry. You know, some of the torture stuff, I wouldn't, I'd never speak of it, ever. And remembers Ken as a troubled kid. You could see why he could be an enforcer, because he just had that mentality, very violent mentality.
Crook County
5 | Bully
I left high school, never even looked over my shoulder. It's like, fuck you, I'm out. It's his birthday.
Crook County
5 | Bully
My name's Rich. I'm the oldest twin, Ken's fraternal twin brother. By how long? Six minutes, I believe it is. And since I came out first, I've always said that the problems I have with my back and my neck and stuff are your dad's fault because he was stepping on me that whole time in the womb. They were the firstborns of the family, followed by younger brothers Stan and Matt.
Crook County
5 | Bully
Stan's five years younger than myself and your dad, and then 11 years for Matt.
Crook County
5 | Bully
Why is that? Explain that one. Because Ken and I are so different. We don't look the same. We don't act the same. I mean, there was nothing about us at that point that was even close to being twin material. So, yeah, it always pissed off Ma, though, when we would say that. But it's a family joke.
Crook County
5 | Bully
How did they know? That's kind of funny because, you know, there was some... kind of half-truth meaning behind our thought process, but eh, you know.
Crook County
5 | Bully
I was out, so when I came home, I walked through, because I would always come in the basement door, and when I walked into the basement door, I heard screaming and yelling from the kitchen. So as you walk up the stairs, you walk right into the kitchen. On one end of the kitchen was Mom with Dad's .45, just screaming bloody murder at him, pointing the gun, just shaking, you know.
Crook County
5 | Bully
And Ken was in the other corner of the kitchen, just in the back. I don't remember anything that was said, just a lot of noise and stuff. And I walked up to Mother. And she's like this. I just stepped right in front of her. So now I got a gun pointing right at my chest. I grabbed her hands and I lifted them up so her hands are now over her head. And I'm holding her hands on the gun.
Crook County
5 | Bully
I turned to Ken and said, you should leave. And he left. And that was it. And he never came back. Wow. Wow, wow, wow.
Crook County
5 | Bully
Did she ever tell you the stories about her brawling in Chicago and stuff, the street fights? No, tell me everything. Never heard about that, huh? No. Yeah, I remember Ma telling me that her and her friends, pals, whatever, would go out for the street fights and the girls would take towels and they would wrap up their boobs.
Crook County
5 | Bully
I mean, like, taped them down, you know, so that there was nothing hanging out there, nothing to grab onto, nothing to get hurt, basically, before they went to their street fights.
Crook County
5 | Bully
Oh, yeah. She was a badass. We're talking knives and clubs and all sorts of stuff.
Crook County
5 | Bully
You bet. Sweet old grandma Doe. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sweet my ass. You didn't grow up with her.
Crook County
5 | Bully
and i was gonna have him arrested for car theft you know and then showing up like nothing happened he gets out hey rich what's going on buddy everything's fine i'm like asshole you stole my car and stories of cruel violence he shot me once he stabbed me once that was fun you can't just stop there you have to tell me the story it was a bb gun but it was a bb gun that could go halfway through a two by four
Crook County
5 | Bully
I still have that BB gun, by the way. It's downstairs. You still have the BB in your flesh? No, that we dug out.
Crook County
5 | Bully
No, he stabbed me with a needle. A needle is probably about eight inches long. And he just, you know, in his blind rage wisdom, I was walking up the stairs and he just came up behind me and just stabbed me right in the ass.
Crook County
5 | Bully
You know, as he got older, I'm sure he learned how to control that and use it to his advantage. But, you know, as we were growing up, just totally out of control. There was a lot of pain and agony and, you know, there was a lot of violence.
Crook County
5 | Bully
And she picked up a kitchen chair and she was going to crack me over the head with it.
Crook County
5 | Bully
I remember eating dog food because I was so damn hungry. Or when I'd give the dog a treat, I would bite the ends off and I would eat it before I would give it to the dog. I was hungry.
Crook County
5 | Bully
You know, some of the torture stuff, I wouldn't... I'd never speak of it, ever. Yeah, because I don't really want... you know, mom and dad to be portrayed as, you know, animal child abusers, even though it was kind of like that. You know, we probably would have been taken away, you know, in today's day and age. You know, I'm sure we would have been taken away if somebody would have said something.
Crook County
5 | Bully
Yeah. Did he tell you about beating the guy up and left him on the hood of his car? Do you know about that one? This is when we were working at the bar up in Northbrook at the hotel. Ken and I were both working there. You know, they had cops that would come in and they would be the security, you know, part-time job stuff.
Crook County
5 | Bully
And he was telling me about this call that he had that there was a guy passed out on the hood of his car in the middle of an intersection. And, oh, okay, fine. Well, the next day, I'm talking to Ken, and he's telling me about this guy who he dragged out of the window of his car, beat the shit out of him, and left him on the hood of his car in the intersection. I'm like, oh, that was you. laughter
Crook County
5 | Bully
I knew that he was definitely dealing drugs. I knew that he was... Working quote-unquote in a whorehouse, but I never got into any of those details. I really didn't want to know You know, it's just it wasn't my lifestyle, you know, it was nothing I really cared about You know, that's what you want to do.
Crook County
5 | Bully
That's what you do You could see why he could be an enforcer because he just had that mentality very violent mentality and
Crook County
5 | Bully
When we were growing up, Dad was the coolest guy in the whole town. Everybody wanted Dad as their dad, but they didn't know what was going on at home. The games that they played for me and Ken was really bad. There was a lot of violence.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
I'm wearing a hoodie. I'm going goblin. We should have makeup. And pre-record everything. I'm gremlin corn today. This is Rich's name. This is Rich's name.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Infinite monkeys and typewriters and all that.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Yes, the Emperor meant a lot to everyone. No, I mean... Not just me. I think the cheeseburger's fine.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
The ceiling is like a hundred feet in the air.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
I try and jump as high as I can. Make an athletic jump.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
The silver dragon crescent blade.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
I've got fucking, like, Batman Returns penguin flippers.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Three to the left is one to the right. Oh, one, two, three.
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Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
Was this yours, Andy? No. That's fine. I just gave mine to Rich. Okay, all right.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
No, we're good. Three to left, one, two, three. I just made it more generic so anybody could RP. You should have mine. If it's three to left, one, two, three. You just gave me yours, didn't you? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, dear Jesus. Okay. Is that mine? Green card. Green card.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
I'm going to stick my... That's taking some getting used to. I lean back and I start, I'm going to stick my tongue out.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
You just like being contrary. No, I just... Gel pens, they smudge. They do smudge. Well, I'll leave you... Give him a second to draw. Oh, no, I can't. No, this is the... I can imagine if you're left-handed, you wouldn't like them, but. No, they just, they smudge.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
We're rolling for our names. No, Andy and I are far-fighting right now. Okay, yeah, that's right, we're right. Roll a d20. Okay, done. No, no, we said Rich.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
387 years. No, a few weeks. I was going to say eight hours and see how I felt. Then maybe take a little break.
Legends of Avantris
Icebound | Side Story 2 | A Story For Another Time
And then the word strikes. Yeah, strike!
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Isn't it amazing how, sorry, isn't it just amazing how it feels like only liberals are able to even utter that sentence that you just uttered? Like, the completely horrific lack of self-awareness on the right, especially among right men, where not only can you not say, like, I was wrong or I'm an idiot, but you can't even let yourself think in that direction.
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It's created this world where it's like they're on top of the mountain and they're so fragile and have all the power and still view threats and see themselves as a victim everywhere. Like, they've just put themselves in this little bubble of delusion and parent party.
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No, I want to go back to something that Luke said, because I was hoping it would it would come back up organically. But I think it's so incredibly important. See, Luke is where I know that Zach and I were both maybe 10, 15 years ago where he mentioned talking to his circle about politics and how quickly they get burned out.
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Because when you are, especially if you're in a red state or a red area or a red family, you've got your three, four people who are like the willing listeners to your political rants. And that was me on Facebook, you know, through 2005 or six to about maybe 2015, 2016, really up to about where Trump was elected the first time. 8,000 character, you know, 30,000 character rants.
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And sometimes they'd have 150, 200 comments below because it was one or two right-wing trolls, engaging with my like seven liberal friends. And then I'm losing friends and losing friends and, you know, people in my family, my immediate family or my, not my immediate family, but extended family members are unfollowing me because like, well, I don't want to talk about politics.
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And it gets you looking at like, who is my audience and who is my community? And so many of us, when we're in a Republican area, our community is whoever we went to high school and college with and whoever we were raised around. And, we lose that. Like I lost that over 10 years. I posted almost no political content for the past, you know, up until I started doing this.
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And I know that the rest of you guys had a similar experience in different ways where unless you're doing it professionally, there's just not a lot of juice there. There's no return. And so when you get around to thinking, well, maybe there's a different way to build a community and you immediately hit an artery, And you tap into this vein and I've got over 500,000 followers in seven months.
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And I know everyone here has had a similar trajectory where the second we started doing anything, we didn't even think we were good at it. Our talking points were all over the place. Our videos are six minutes long. We're trying to figure it out. And people are still just going zhunk and just latching on.
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And clearly there's this massive unmet need in the market that makes me think of Ronald Reagan's old like the silent majority thing. I'm like, I think we might be the silent majority, but we just gave up on our red communities and stopped talking. And so we lost, you know, half of the country because all of us, we just put our keyboards down and
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We didn't want to keep bombarding the same people with the same repetitive talking points.
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I think there's something really important to call out in that exchange, which is if you guys recall 2007, 2008. Barack Obama's coming in, you know, it's obvious what's happening in this. Like, there was no stopping anything that happened then.
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And yet, coming off of, what, $2 trillion in spending on the war on terror, the war in Iraq, something along those lines, coming off of or going into the Great Recession, which was evident was going to be catastrophic by the end of 2008, George W. Bush's approval rating was about 25%, which means no matter what happens in this country, one out of four people cannot be spoken to.
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You cannot connect with them. And so whether it's the Magas or the Sarah Palins or the Michelle Bachmans or the Tea Party, it doesn't make a difference. You can't. You can't fix them. You can call them an idiot. You can talk to them with empathy. You can share news links with them. It's all fake news. They didn't call it fake news 10 years ago, but that's what they were calling it.
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You can't trust anybody. Everything's a lie. But once you set those in, so if you focus exclusively on those people, that's where you get this like doom spiraling on the left where like, well, we'll never fix these people. He's going to run for a third term. There are 25% of people who will absolutely say Trump should run for a third term. He should be a dictator.
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This is the best future for America. They were the same people who thought George W. Bush was just doing a bang up job in November of 2008. And so we have to, like to Zach's point, let that part go. We can't fix them. And if they want to take it upon themselves to fix themselves, then that's great.
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But if we focus on that middle 50, you know, the 25 percent one way or the other, there's a lot of room there that we don't understand because we're in the weeds. We understand the issues. But those individuals, they're kind of at arm's length. And that's where we connect with them, make them laugh. They think, well, maybe these people aren't so terrible. There's something there.
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I sent litter boxes to school just to try to be inclusive. Nobody used them. Nobody used them. It was the, the, the, the, the kitty crash. Like it was, it was like lavender. I was,
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That's super scoopable. Right. Yeah. With a little with a little slotted spoon. And nobody used any of it.
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Well, that was my take on on the whole continuing resolution issue. I mean, we and I wrote about this. So it's top of mind. We are terrified to sacrifice anything or take any risks. And And when I look back at, like, Obama's debacle with guns and Bibles or guns and religion, right, was what he said in Pennsylvania. He was caught on a hot mic saying they turned to their guns and religion.
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Everybody lost their mind. And he apologized. He, like, went on an apology tour across the country, you know, saying, like, I should never characterize. You weren't wrong. And it doesn't have to be bad, right? Like, Just lean into it and say, hey, we've given you reasons to turn to your guns and religion. Like, you could just say that. But instead, it was like, oh, that was really insensitive.
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Does Trump go around apologizing? Like, he wins because he just doesn't care. He will sacrifice every possible thing that is required, even things that he never wanted to sacrifice or never intended to sacrifice. If there's an opportunity to throw that under the bus to win, he'll be like, oh, here, you know, take my kids. Yeah.
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Yeah, well, I think like almost everybody here, I got a message from you, if I recall correctly. And, you know, I think what has been really remarkable is I started making these videos seven months ago, and it was just like, hey, I'm just going to try making a TikTok about things I believe in.
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Zach, you mentioned earlier, like, you know, who's going to get the blame? Quinnipiac did a poll this week and said, who's going to get the blame if the government shuts down? 32 percent said congressional Democrats, 22 percent said Trump and 31 percent said Republicans in Congress. So almost two to one.
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the blame would have fallen on Trump, but that is of course before he goes and then gets the microphone and then gets to reframe it to the country. So, sorry. I don't spend a lot of time in debates like this with the circular firing squad for this exact reason. Trump, he signed an executive order after they voted to keep the government open to gut seven more governmental agencies.
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including a broadcast organization with 2000 employees and 360 million listeners around the world who listened to America first news so that they can get unbiased news from us because they probably don't have local broadcast stations. So we were going to lose or the people were going to lose. There's no way out of this where we either,
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We either don't take the loss as the party, which is what we did, or the people don't take the loss. Somebody is going to lose here because, Zach, to your point, everybody loses. Ninety five percent of people lose when Republican policies and Republican leaders are in place.
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And that's where we need to keep this debate framed, because if it's AOC versus Chuck Schumer, we're talking about trying to think of a metaphor, but we're talking about two children in a class arguing when the principal and the teacher and the entire support system are all domestic terrorists, essentially. They're all monsters.
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How could it possibly fall to those kids who have no power left in this scenario To go and fix, you know, to keep the metaphor going, the school system or to fix the problems with the country. So we could have played this better and won a political fight. Absolutely. If we had shut it down and we had just held this up and said, listen, you guys have the White House. You guys have the House.
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And it was remarkable how fast they got traction with the whole country, all sorts of people who look and sound and believe differently from me. And yet we found this shared thread. And so then when the group of us started
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You guys have the Senate. You guys have the Supreme Court. You're doing everything that you want to do. How can you not write a bill that can get 10 little Democrats to just be excited to vote for it? And if you can't do that, what are you even doing in power? And then walk away from the mic. Go home like the Republicans did.
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They voted and they went home so that it would just be forced on the Democrats. We could have returned that exact same favor, played that exact same game, said no, and go home. And then go home to these town halls where the Republicans are getting eviscerated. I mean, it is a bloodbath out there.
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And the Democrats then go and hold town halls in Republican areas, as many have called for, like Bernie Sanders, I believe, is doing right now with AOC. I think Tim Walz is doing it as well. Go to red areas and say, listen, we're trying to do everything, but elections have consequences. And you guys gave us, you took away all of our levers of control. And now this is what happens. And it sucks.
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But that's the point of what I was making earlier, the point I was making earlier. Democrats won't risk or sacrifice anything, even though the country already risked and sacrificed all of these things already in November. So allowing those natural consequences to play out. Yes, it's painful. Yes, it sucks. But. This was a horrible, horrible lose lose.
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And we picked one losing path instead of the other. And now we've got, you know, seven more agencies being gutted. And Trump is just looking like a right wing hero because he got the Democrats to capitulate. And now he's just going to keep going with with what we feared he would do if we let the government shut down. So I'm not going to scream at AOC. I'm not going to scream at Schumer.
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I have, you know, we had two bad options and we picked one bad option. And we have to reframe that and push both bad options on the consequences of the election.
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I think both would have kept getting worse. I mean, if we shut down, I've read a good amount of the analysis both ways. And yeah, I mean, if we had shut down government and then Trump is the last guy standing, just saying, you know, fine, this is what I wanted in the first place. Like,
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we don't have a lot of options so but that's my point is they both sucked like we're like 90 losers with either choice yeah and you can frame them either way we picked the path of minimizing damage hoping that there's enough left to save in 2026 which i believe there will be in 2028 um But it wasn't going to be a stone cold winner either way.
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And so spending too much time arguing with ourselves implies that there was a clear cut option to win. When in reality, we need to just say, this is Trump. This is, who's the majority? John Thune, I haven't even heard his name since he was elected. But this is Trump. This is your Republican Senate. This is your Republican House. Like this is what they're doing, you guys.
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This is their machine and being operated right now.
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connecting and chatting, what was amazing was how quickly we realized we're across the whole country, but we're all having the exact same shared experience with our peers, people we went to high school with, people we went to college with, all of our friends that might be progressive, our male friends that might be progressive, their relatives, their cousins, their siblings.
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Also, as you call it, a girl dad, and it's the best thing in the whole world. It is. Zach, you are too, right? I am too.
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There's just this world one click outside of our bubble. And it's the same story everywhere. And that's that
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if you don't if you weren't raised like with progressive values or if you don't live in a progressive area you have this caricature of progressivism or liberalism or leftism or whatever you want to call it um in your head and i just saw a video the other day actually one of our favorite um right wing i'm trying to think of the best possible way to not get in trouble but one of our favorite right-wing individuals who's trying to save america she said that sorry she made a video about how
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When you think of a liberal, it's just a blue haired weirdo from Seattle. And it's like, no, where is this coming from? But when you then get out in these rural areas and you talk to people, you realize where it's coming from. And it's coming from right wing content creators, whether that's Rush Limbaugh on AM radio, rest in peace, or any of his proteges that have come afterward.
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there is an entire machine of people, you know, mostly white men telling other white men that all liberals are blue haired weirdos from Seattle and San Francisco and New York.
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And so, you know, getting together and, um, getting, getting behind white dudes for Harris was like, okay, as long as Harris is in this name, um, it doesn't sound bad, but when you take Harris out and then it's just a bunch of white dudes, um, it's, it's actually like quite funny and pretty ironic, um, because we realized, Hey,
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we actually have a role to play here and we like nobody else is doing it and so you know let's give it a shot and let's try to do something real because the the need is the need is evident and our viewers and our followers have have made that much clear