Rep. Greg Landsman
Appearances
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Good to meet you. Thanks for having me.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But we all read Project 2025. We knew this was going to happen.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Although I would say like for him, for Trump, the point is making money. He wants to make as much money as he possibly can. That is his goal. That's his North Star. And in order to make as much money as he can, he has to have power. And that's why he cares about
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
power and winning this election and then using power to, you know, with the tariffs so that people have to come to him and get exemptions.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But to get exemptions, you got to pay him money, you know, power in terms of the dinner over the weekend where all these people showed up, you know, and gave, you know, I don't know how much money, but it's, you know, hundreds of millions, tens of millions he made. For him.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Almost a half a billion dollars for one dinner that goes to him.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Yeah.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Now, in order to get the money, he needs the power. In order to get the power, he needs attention. And that's what he does. And sometimes cruelty is what gets him attention. And I think the cruelty serves the need for attention, which helps him with power, which ultimately serves his most important goal, which is to make money. And he's been doing this his entire life.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
My hope is that at the end of this—
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
it'll all sort of fall apart the way every one of his businesses has where a bunch of people sue and you know usually was bankers for him uh now i think you just have everyday people who've been ripped off who are going to sue but i just i i think that you know understanding trump through that lens is really important he is uh he's he's a a true grifter and and willing to be as corrupt as humanly possible like i've no one's ever been more corrupt
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And he doesn't care because he's going to walk away with billions and billions and billions of dollars.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
She and I serve on energy and commerce together, and I think we're a decent crew, right? She's more progressive on many things than me, but she's got, obviously, an incredible amount of talent when it comes to communications. It's huge.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Yeah, I mean, this is, it's a really good question. The answer is you have to make sure that it's clear that it's coming at an expense to you. And, you know, ultimately people know that, right? The fact that he used the White House over the weekend to have some dinner where a bunch of people gave $300, $400 million to him, that's corrupt.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
You're not allowed to use the office for your own personal financial gain. Same with the plane, this bribe plane from Qatar and the Trump coin. I get why people would be like, yeah, but does that really affect me? It seems like it's another world and I don't really understand that world and maybe I give them the benefit of the doubt.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But they do also understand that what they're trying to do is further build on this broken economy where they are shifting wealth away from us, by cutting healthcare and food assistance and other investments in people in our communities in order to pay for another round of tax giveaways to billionaires and big corporate investors, that's outrageous. And that's where people do draw the line.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Fine, if some rich person wants to have dinner with Donald Trump, okay. I mean, obviously,
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But they are in this budget and with these cuts, the indiscriminate firing of people, over 100,000 federal employees being indiscriminately let go, what it's doing to services, what they're doing to the Social Security Administration, how that is screwing over seniors, how this budget, that is stabbing them in the front.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And her ability to make arguments and to, I think, break through, which is a huge part of what Democrats have to figure out, is how to get attention and to break through. And there's a lot to learn from her, though, you know, and I've said this to her, there's, I think, a lot to learn from her.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And that is a level of corruption that people have struggled to paint Trump or congressional Republicans with. But one of the reasons why I won in 2022 against an incumbent who had been there for 30 years, where I joked that he'd been in Congress for hundreds of years, it was that he was the quintessential swamp animal or creature, that he was swimming, I mean, drowning in corporate PAC money.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And I don't take corporate PAC money. And this guy, he takes all this corporate PAC money from gun manufacturers. And so he's not going to do anything that would make sense, even with police. Even when police say, well, could you at least do red flag laws or could you do this or could you do that? No, no, no. He gets all this money from the gun manufacturers who make billions of dollars.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Is he going to cap the cost of insulin for children, which is my first bill? First bill, my first term, first bill this term. We're going to keep at it until we cap the cost for insulin for everyone? No, because he is swimming in corporate PAC money from the pharmaceutical companies. That's what...
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
built this you know terrible ridiculous budget bill is corporate PAC money and they're the ones who are getting the benefits that is stabbing you in the front and the American people will hate this and they do they hate this bill it's a terrible bill right and you have some strange bedfellows on this I rarely say good things about Josh Hawley but he's being totally objective about the cuts
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
He's an actual economic populist. And the party said that they were going to go in that direction. Trump said they were going to go in that direction. This will be a betrayal. I mean, I think people will see the terrorists as a betrayal. I think people will see because that's the kind of corruption, right?
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I'm going to try to control the global trade situation so people have to come to me and pay me for exemptions. That's different than a dinner party. Now, all of a sudden, my prices are higher because you want to make money, you know, shaking countries and companies down. That I don't like. You know what I mean? And the corporate PAC staff, these folks are swimming in corporate PAC money.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I mean, this is where, you know, there's a crew of us, a growing number of us, you know, sort of newer members that don't take corporate PAC money.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
us too which is i represent part of the the country where you have an equal number of democrats independents and republicans and so it's it's a pretty pragmatic middle-of-the-road district and i i think i have a pretty good sense of where voters are on most issues in the language they use and you know i think people like us working together is a good thing
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
We don't take our corporate PAC money because we know at the end of the day this is what the American people hate the most is the idea that somehow we represent 750,000 people, yet we would go – they go to Washington and then take the money from these folks and start voting with them and not us. Yeah.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I travel a lot. I mean, I go around, you know, because I do living rooms and, you know, you find a way, but yeah, I mean, I, I think it was not only good for me, but it was key to, you know, beating this, this, you know, multi-term, you know, he'd been there again, 26 years, almost three decades. He, he, he had taken more corporate PAC money than just about anyone else in the house.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And I ran, if you go watch my ads, I don't take corporate PAC money. I said it, I said it in multiple ads. I say it over and over as, as a way of ensuring or making sure people know that I will always be with them. and no one else. And I think the party needs to head in that direction. That's where Obama was. I mean, that's where we were.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And so, yeah, the, the, I think that Trump is without a doubt, the most corrupt president in American history. Um, just the, you know, sheer volume of cash that the guy's depositing into his own bank account. But the big, issue in terms of corruption is the, is the kind that messes with people's lives.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And that is the, the role that money, big money plays and getting these politicians to vote for the big money guys as, as opposed to voting for, uh, the people that you represent. And I think Josh Hawley, I don't know if Josh Hawley takes corporate PAC money or not, but
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
You know, for him to say very clearly and emphatically, you know, taking away health care from, you know, 10 to 14 million people, anyone, to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy is terrible policy. And I think he said political suicide. And he's right.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Yeah, I mean, I'm for term limits. It's going to be hard to get done because Congress is never going to do it. You know, I'm one of... Not that many people that support term limits, but do so publicly. I just think that it's good. And, you know, if you want to take a break, term limits doesn't mean that you can't come back, right?
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Like, because I served... This is where I think age is maybe the wrong way to look at this. I mean, Nancy, in some ways, is one of the most still... She's incredible. ...compelling and, like, you know, like, she's just... She's more on her game than... You know, some of the more younger members.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I mean, I worked for Nancy. That was my first job. And I had a hard time at 22 years old keeping up with her. I mean, I genuinely, and I still, I'm still like, she buzzes around the floor the way I do. And I find myself sitting down and sort of taking a minute. sooner than she does.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But so I think I think it's time, you know, where you, you know, and I think term limits forces people to take a break. So, you know, the idea is 18 years for the Supreme Court. That seems to make a lot of sense to me. It doesn't preclude you from coming back. So anyways, the reason why I'm a little skeptical of age is that and this is a unique thing.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
So hopefully Scott will, you know, give me some grace here. But the when I got to City Hall, I think everyone needs good mentors. My mentor was a guy named David, or is a guy named David Mann. He was a former member of Congress, mayor, and then he wanted to come back. And he was at City Hall and he and I ran the budget together and I learned so much from him.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And I thought that was a hugely important thing that he came back. You know, he helped us get through some really complicated years and some really complicated budgets. So I think it's, I tend to believe that, yes, elections should be more competitive. I want to end partisan gerrymandering so that we have more competitive elections. I want to get money out of politics.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And I think that there should be term limits so that people take a break. And if they want to come back, then come back.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Yeah. I mean, I do think it's – It's ideas and energy and a worldview and trustworthiness that matters most, right, as opposed to age. That's all. And there are people who are younger who have lost their way, in my opinion.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
One argument I'd make— I think I'm going to make it here and we'll see how it plays out is that maybe we need some nineties kids. Now I say that obviously as a nineties kid, but in the nineties, if you grew up in the nineties, like me, you didn't have the internet. So you appreciate a world without the internet. Uh, I didn't, I, you know, like, I think I got my first email address.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
That's what it was an email address.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
When I got to college in 1996, and you didn't really use it. It wasn't like something – when we were in college, there was no cell phones, so we still had to memorize everybody's four-digit number for their room. Their room, essentially. Yeah. But we also, that was the last time we balanced the budget. This is the last time we fixed the tax code.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
So we saw, we grew up, we saw a group of leaders work in a very bipartisan way to fix stuff. They didn't always get it right. Don't get me wrong. But they did work together to do all kinds of really important things. It was the last time we got close to a peace agreement. I mean, you know, Clinton was there in the Rose Garden with, with Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and the PLO leader Arafat.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And they got as close to a peace deal as anyone. But again, on the budget stuff, it was the last time we balanced the budget. We fixed the tax code. We ran a surplus. We ran a surplus for years. It was the largest economic expansion in American history. And we passed meaningful gun reform. paired with hiring police officers.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
So I do think there's a, is this a moment for a 90s kid, at least to be sort of, you know, helping us get to a place where we've fixed the economy you know, government is running way more efficient. I mean, if you grew up in the 90s, you were all about making it work better, you know, finding the fraud and the inefficiencies. You know, we were serious about immigration reform.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
You know, like all of these issues that are coming up, we did make some meaningful progress in the 90s. And there's, I think, some lessons to be learned. But those of us who were raised in that time period I think I have a moment, this is a moment for us to step up and say, here's the path forward.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, you know, ultimately you want to. build and you have to build the broadest possible coalition. And that takes a lot of intentionality and work and, uh, it's, it's organizing and it's the way in which you communicate and it's, it's how you build teams, but you know, it's a big part of what has to happen moving forward, in my opinion.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Correct. Yes, it was like – I mean, one of the things I did before I left City Hall was establish an office of good government because this is – you've got to be constantly improving. You have to make it better every day.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Every day, you've got to make it better and easier for people to use because you want people to use it and to get the help they need so they can be successful, so they can participate in an economy and they're contributing in a way where our economy is growing. That's what you want. And that's, yeah, that's what we did. And we can get back to it.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And I think there is something to the fact that, like, for those of us who grew up in the 90s and, I mean, we literally, you know, our parents kicked us out of the house during the summer. My kids started their summer break Thursday. And it's rainy today, and they're like, what are we going to do?
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And they're just, you know, when I was leaving, they were trying to come up with a plan, but they don't really have many options and blah, blah, blah. I said to Sarah, my wife, on the way out, I mean, you could do what we do. my parents did or your parent, which is like locked, just kicking, we got locked out.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And I remember coming back to the house and being like, I wonder if she's kept the door locked, my mom. And I would, I would, and it was locked. And I was like, well, I guess I got to go play. I literally said to my son today, I was like, go in the creek. It's been raining. We used to make these little boats out of stuff we found and have races. And he was like, what are you talking about?
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I was like, eh, never mind.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
The tax code. It's so frustrating to me. I mean, you got all these people working their tails off and right now the tax code favors wealth, not hard work. And so what needs to happen moving forward to fix what's fundamentally broken about the economy and the world in which we're living or the country is you got to fix the tax code so that it rewards hard work, not wealth.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And then what do I need to calm down about? I don't know.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Wait, hold on.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
What do I get too worked up about?
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I mean, I do... Yeah, since it's sports-related, I get way too worked up about the Bengals. Yeah. I'm getting nods here. Like, I...
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Let's go back to me being a 90s kid. In 1989, the Bengals went to the Super Bowl, and it became my identity. There's a picture of me in the local paper, because I grew up in Butler County, and we had a little teeny local paper. That's also where J.D. Vance grew up, by the way. But very different experiences, or at least after. We probably have very similar experiences. Doesn't matter.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Not the point of the story. Point of the story is... In 1989, Bengals go to the Super Bowl, becomes my entire identity. I'm on the front page of our paper with a bunch of other kids from sixth grade, right? Because I was in sixth grade at the time and we're all in Bengals gear. And that, I like cut it out and I framed it and I was so excited.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
We, you know, as Democrats, we have to sort of come clean with voters in terms of where things weren't what we said or others in our party said and rebuild some trust because there's an issue there, right? Like even though Trump is underwater, so are Democrats. And so there's some work to do there. Ultimately, there's got to be this national effort to organize the broadest possible coalition.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But then they go to the world, they go to the Super Bowl and they lose in the last minute. And it is the most unhealthy relationship I have. And no matter what I do to try to manage my emotions and to try to stay calm, Everything about it makes me worked up and to the point where I can't go to the stadium anymore.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I had to watch the last Super Bowl in 2023 because my son wouldn't watch with me because usually I watch with him and I fold laundry or I make beds. I have to be doing something other than watch the game. Otherwise, I'm too emotionally, I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack. I went to go watch at a friend's house. They put me in a room with a sound machine and a dog.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
So that I could sit there and pet the dog to get through the game. And the door stayed shut. And it was still very difficult.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I have healthy relationships in my life. That is the most unhealthy thing that I have. And I can't. It's not fixable. And it is what it is.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
You too. Thanks.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And, you know, you can wait for a candidate to emerge that really has that ability to build that coalition, or you can start to lay the groundwork. Now, I'm a let's lay the groundwork now and build that huge coalition and do it by laying out, in part, a really compelling strategy.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
you know, set of fixes or policies similar to what the Republicans did in 1994 with the Contract for America, just do one You know, and I've taken a stab at this and laid it out and shared it with folks, including AOC, to say, like, look, this is, you know, where I think we build the broadest possible coalition.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And, you know, ultimately, I think that's what you're going to see over the course of the next couple of months is a more unified national effort where we're not just fighting the chaos and corruption and cruelty of Trump, but there's also a larger, really compelling vision.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
So for me, there are three. One is fixing the economy, and that's one where Democrats have to, you know, come clean. This is where, you know, AOC and I are close in that, you know, are aligned. I know that the economy has been fundamentally broken for decades, and that's something that she and Bernie and others have been talking about.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
It's what I've been talking about in my very purple district, and it's what Pat talks about. I mean, Pat, Ryan, and I, you know, This is where we sync up and all agree that the economy's been structurally broken and the idea that there were Democrats telling people it was okay and look at GDP and look at unemployment and all this other stuff. It's like, no, look at people's bank accounts.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I mean, it's grim. People are struggling to pay all their bills. the concentration of wealth is just, you know, is so egregious and so harmful. And so you got to fix the tax code. You got to fix the economy. You got to get rid of price gouging. You got to take on corporate consolidation, all that stuff. Number two is, you know, reforms to government and politics.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And, you know, just like fixing the economy, we have to be the anti-establishment reformer crew again and say, look, you know, We had, you know, power in 2021 and 2020. The presidency, the House and the Senate, and the Senate didn't pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
We didn't, you know, the House passed a bill to end partisan gerrymandering and to end voter suppression and dark money and get money out of politics, but the Senate didn't. And, you know, Democrats have to own that. And then the last piece, and this is where there's going to be some disagreement within the party, and that's okay. I just, you know, hopefully I went out.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
is that it's public safety, national security. And part of public safety is border security and immigration reform, which we were the leaders on for so long. And then way too many in our party were like, oh, it's not that important. It's like, it's hugely important. The last time we had meaningful gun reform where we tackled gun violence is we paired it with hiring more cops.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
That's how the crime bill got done. Now, I'm not suggesting you do the crime bill again, but you do say, like, we're going to hire more police officers because communities all over the country need cops. And we need, you know, the kind of common sense gun reform that's going to lead to, you know, safer communities. And from a national security standpoint, we need a strong defense, you know.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And so there are many of us in our party that are pretty hawkish. Yeah. And it's not because we want war. It's the exact opposite. It's an old Roman saying, if you want peace, prepare for war. That's all. And, you know, so in any event, those to me are the three big things. Fix the economy, fix politics and government, and keep everyone safe.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Yeah, I mean, I will.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I'm nodding my head because I understand where it comes from. I think people want toughness. You know, things are broken. And when things are broken, you want somebody who can come in and fix it. That's where we are. And if there is a bumper sticker, you know, that I'd be okay with, we're going to be the ones that fix it. We'll fix this.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And you need to have a toughness to you and to your team and to the people you pull together because it is complex and it is messy and it's going to require a, I would say a toughness and a level of strength and determination and action that says, you know, that gives people the confidence that you're going to break through and get it fixed. And that to me is where
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I would use different language, but I'm from Ohio. Yeah, you don't have to talk like me. I'm in New York. I'm not in New York, but I get it. I feel it. I want somebody... who I know is going to go into a room and say, hey, guys, we have to fucking fix this. And so I don't care, you know, exactly how we do it, but no one's leaving this fucking room until we fix it.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
That's, to me, the energy the country needs.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know, like, I was at City Hall for five years, and I was known as somebody who just got shit done. Like, I can put people in a room... and hold them in that room until they, you know, people who don't agree on something. So like we did a ton of eviction prevention work, a ton of it. And it has kept tens of thousands of children and families in their homes. We got,
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
The landlords and the tenant advocates in a room. And for months we were like, you know, look, we're going to keep meeting until we can iron out fixes. And, you know, I think, you know, people find that compelling. It made a big difference. And, you know, more and more children and families are still in their homes because of it. And our eviction numbers are better than most places.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
We did it with preschool. We had a vision to say, like, every kid in this city needs quality preschool, two years of quality preschool. We wanted to be the first city in the country to do it. So we brought everyone together, the teachers union and other folks in labor with the business community and the schools. And we passed a ballot. It took us years.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But we passed a ballot measure, and Cincinnati is the only city in the country that provides two years of quality preschool. The list goes on for me in terms of accomplishments based on being a person who cares deeply and who's willing to go in and throw punches until something gets done.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
So, yeah, let me start at the end. I do think that there were people on the other side of the aisle that are more conflicted than they were. And I don't know how this is going to end. We don't know because it's now in the Senate and it may come back differently. In fact, it will likely come back differently. And I do think the 26 hours straight of hammering in a very compelling way
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
didn't change their votes in that first instance. But over time, I still think it's a question. Now, what we did was we started organizing meeting early.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And, you know, Frank Pallone chairs that committee, and he and his staff have been incredible about getting us in a room, working through what we expected to be the policy, and then what we knew would be or talk through what we thought would be the most compelling arguments to make. And that was something we worked on for weeks, if not months, together as a committee.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And then, you know, we get an opportunity, we're in the minority, to use the power that we do have, which is to procedurally hold them in a room for 26 straight hours, offering amendment after amendment after amendment after amendment. And they weren't joke amendments. They weren't messaging amendments. They were real amendments.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
For example, one of my amendments was to get rid of this new fee that they're going to charge low-income families to get certain procedures, most procedures. And there's no argument for it other than they're trying to generate more money for – tax cuts, and they need the numbers of people who are using Medicaid to go down.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And so they're finding all of these ways to kick people off, or as one member on the other side said, clean up the rolls. So in any event, it was – they were all very compelling amendments and they voted against every single one of them.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
But the people who sat in the room, I mean they came up to me afterwards and they would say like that was really compelling or you made a really good argument or one who – who I do believe is struggling with this. I think a lot of them are struggling with this. This is not, as I said in my sort of closing arguments, this is not the assignment they wanted.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
If they had been told, hey, guys, we want to do tax cuts and provide tax relief for working people, the middle class, farmers, and small businesses, that's it. We don't. You know, we want to clean up fraud, waste and abuse. So work with the Democrats and follow the GAO reports, which lay out all the fraud, waste and abuse. But we don't want to add any more to the deficit.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And, you know, we're not going to take anyone's health care food. They would have passed that easily with us. I mean, easily. It's a teeny set of changes to the tax code that would only affect the wealthiest people in America. That's it. They wouldn't even notice it. And there would be no deficit spending. No one loses their health care. No one loses their food assistance.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
And you get rid of all this waste, fraud, and abuse, saving a ton of money. But it's based on what the GAO and the professionals say, as opposed to a bunch of you know, fake claims about abuse in order to pay for tax cuts. So in any event, it was a lot of prep. It was a lot of us knowing what they were going to do. This is the part of this fight, this big fight that we were prepared for.
Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
What’s Buried in the Bill (feat. Rep. Greg Landsman)
I mean, I don't, we weren't prepared for, you know, you know, Trump saying he's going to invade Greenland or that, you know, that was a possibility. How could you have known? How could we have known? There are other things. I don't think we were prepared for this level of corruption. It's insane how much he's doing to line his own pockets. I mean, he's raking in billions or the cruelty.