Raheem Kassam
Appearances
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Thank you for having me, Andrew. It's not like we've talked enough over the last 24 hours, but it's great to see you again.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Yes. So, you know, a man from your neck of the woods once said trust, but verify. But I'm sort of more more the type that is just never trusting. So to answer that question very bluntly and in the same way that President Trump answered the question earlier on in the press conference about using economic or military force to secure Greenland or Panama. No, I cannot say that I trust this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
I cannot say that I trust Mark Zuckerberg. I cannot even say that I trust his new so-called Republican apparatus. But what I will say is that since 2020, we have been deconstructing what this fact-check regime actually looks like inside Facebook. who they use as fact checkers, you know, right down to who the individual people are who are doing the so-called fact checks.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And we had a great deal of, well, you know this, Andrew, you know, we at the National Pulse, we don't spend a lot of money on marketing and PR and, you know, going on Fox News or whatever pumping up our stories, but we do that quiet, diligent, hard work behind the scenes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And what it led to was one of these fact checkers by the name of Lead Stories actually having to remove some of their staff because we outed them as being Democrat donors, outright Democrat activists. And indeed, lead stories themselves had signed to work with the Chinese Communist Party's TikTok app a couple of years ago. So we've been chipping away and chipping away at this for quite some time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And so in counterbalance... to my skepticism, my cynicism, and perhaps my negativity over Mark Zuckerberg, I do think we are starting to make the right inroads. And this is a development that shows you that. The fact-checking regimen at Meta, at Facebook, and by the way, it's not just them, but it's a huge platform that lots of people still use, has been so opaque. It has lacked transparency.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And we've tried to shine a light on who these people are and what their so-called fact checks do. I'm delighted that we're moving to a more community-based, like a community note system like X or Twitter has. But let's see how it actually is implemented because the devil, once again, will be in the detail.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
It's a huge question. And in the very few hours that we've had since the Zuckerberg announcement this morning, these are the type of questions that we're mulling over that we're trying to figure out the answers to. Of course, European members of parliament, the European Commission, all of these bureaucrats and the entire vast operation that has worked for so long to try and tamp down
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
on people's free speech. They will absolutely be having a freak out right now. There's no doubt about it. I worked in Brussels. I worked in Strasbourg. I know all of these people very well. They will be in a full on meltdown over the fact that ordinary people might get to say what they think once again.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
you know, without being tamped down on, without their accounts being deleted, restricted, suspended, all of the things that have happened to me, by the way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
The irony is just last week, I got three strikes in a row on my Facebook page telling me that I'm about to lose it because, you know, some fact checker may have been lead stories, may have been another one that they use, disagreed with my framing of a story in some way, shape or form. So I look forward to the end of that regime, but the Brussels apparatus, the Davos apparatus certainly won't.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
As it pertains specifically to the United Kingdom, look, if I were in the UK today, I suspect I would already be behind bars for some of the things that I share on social media. It's not a joke. I am not putting my tongue in my cheek when I say that. I'm not exaggerating. I truly believe that to be the case. Whenever I talk to people back home, they tend to agree with me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
They say, Raheem, you are one of the most spicy people online. There's absolutely no way the authorities would let you get away with that stuff here. And this applies doubly, triply, quadruply to somebody like Tommy Robinson. Now, like you say, Tommy can and has been one of his own worst enemies. He would tell you that. He's been a friend of mine for a long time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
But what is at the heart of the things that he posts and the things that he shares is his love for his country. And his willing intent to try and shine a light on these, you know, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Muslim grooming and rape gangs, scandals which have been going on for two decades now plus. in the United Kingdom.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
But because a comma might be in the wrong place or an I isn't dotted or a T isn't crossed in some of his posts, the authorities use that as a cudgel by which to beat him with. He, as far as they are concerned, is one of those grubby, working class, deplorable garbage types who shouldn't actually be able to have their say. So while
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
There can be arguments about the things that he's done and the way he's gone about them. You have to bear in mind at its core what this is about. To answer your broader question, yeah, look, we have a newly elected Labour left wing of the Democrats government in the United Kingdom.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
They will resist what Mark Zuckerberg is doing, what Donald Trump is bringing back to Washington, D.C., and, of course, are already resisting what Elon Musk is doing to the point where yesterday they said they may even sever the United Kingdom's national security agreements with the United States if Donald Trump agrees with Elon Musk on this stuff. That is not small beer.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
That is a fundamental reorientation of the geopolitical order. If Labour want to reorient and tie themselves more up with Brussels and perhaps even more up with Beijing, yes, there may be, as you say, some transatlantic issues. I don't know, warfare might be a strong word, but some irreversible friction.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
That's why we started reporting on it back when I used to run Breitbart's London Bureau back in 2013 and 2014. You know, I am somebody who most people will realize doesn't actually care about the blowback and the reprisals, bring it on as far as I'm concerned. And when you're right, it's tens of thousands of people who have been targeted online.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
with this stuff, then to stay quiet, to not speak would be the great betrayal.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Yeah, you're asking a question that really goes back decades in political history in the UK now. And a lot of people, I'll disagree with you on one thing. The lid was blown off on this issue years and years ago In the United Kingdom that, you know, Rupert Murdoch's The Times newspaper had splashed it on the front pages. It's been in the Daily Mail, the Express.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
So it's not to say that the media has not covered this. I understand that a lot of Americans and people around the world are waking up to this story now. But credit where it's due, the story has been covered. Now, it's been euphemistically covered, not by us. We cover it in the most kind of literal and demonstrative ways possible. The gruesome stories that you mentioned before the break are
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
you know, are part of that wider narrative that has to be told. And so places like the BBC will try and hide it. They will allude to the background of these men. They will just say Asian, whereas what they really mean is Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Muslim men account for the vast, vast, vast, over 90% majority of the perpetrators of these heinous crimes against young girls. Um,
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
But what you're talking about here is this really odd dynamic on the political right in the UK where, you know, you've got kind of the street activist, extremely working class end of things in Tommy Robinson's group, formerly of the English Defence League.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
That organization has had lots of running street battles with Antifa, you know, physical fights, brawls, smashing things up, fights with police, you know, almost what the papers and the middle classes would call, you know, football hooliganism or yobbish behavior, right? I don't subscribe to those definitions. I'm just kind of trying to lay the land here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
On the flip side of the political right in the UK, you've got Nigel Farage, who is, A private school educated former metals trader in the city of London who has worked since the mid-90s to extricate Britain from its relationship with the European Union and has focused on mass immigration as a critical topic there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Over the last year, Nigel has taken this party, and it was originally the UK Independent Party, Party, then it became the Brexit Party, and now it's the Reform Party, from being a 5% party in the polls 10 years ago to beating the Labour Party and indeed the Conservative Party in national polls today. So Nigel's perspective on this is we did all of this without having to go there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Don't tell me I have to go there and allow us to be besmirched as yobs and hooligans and whatnot. you also have to understand that there is a significant chunk of the British upper, sorry, the British middle class voter who are looking for reasons to stop voting for Labour and the Conservative parties. And if you tell them that reform is necessarily linked over here, they just won't do it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
So it's a very fine line that has to be tread, a political fine line that has to be tread here to ensure that reform can actually take over from the two legacy establishment parties. And my perspective on it is this. I'm friends with both of those men. I have been for a long time. I talked to them both very frankly about it. I've fallen out with both of them about talking to the other ones.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And we're going to see eye to eye. But what I say is this. The people who have been critical of Nigel over the last couple of days because he doesn't want to be allied with Tommy Robinson, I will say this. This is not the time to be watching a party, the only political movement that could surge and replace the Tories and Labour and trying to drive a wedge through the political right.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
In fact, the people who are doing that, I regard as splitters, I regard as contrary to the greater cause. And I just think this is a fight that the establishment, the EU, Davos and the left absolutely love. And we just all need to pack it in.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Well, look, they've clearly hit the ground running. And that was one of the most important things that we were all concerned about on the run up to January 20th was how much can you get done? How quickly? How many roadblocks are there going to be from the deep state, the holdovers, so on and so forth?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
We lived that life in 2016 and saw the massive Sisyphean task fought by all of the people who went to, in good faith, work inside the White House, work inside the government departments. And after the election, after the victory, after that enormous victory,
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
um victory uh the entire attention span flipped to how do we actually make these first few days weeks and months as um as rewarding as they can be for the american public so it's great to see uh i think you know minute upon minute i seem to be getting notifications from the white house communications office which is great because we were banned from the white house communications list under the biden regime
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
So they've reinstated us over at the National Post. I know they're putting so many other, including your guys' reporters, in the press briefing room. And I think that is a sign of major amounts of transparency coming out of this administration too.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Yeah, it is. I mean, I think, again, eight years ago, people were really getting to grips with how do these processes operate? And I think within the last four or five years, really, there's become ingrained institutional knowledge in MAGA world that says the processes will work however we want them to work, actually. That's how the left approaches government.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And that is how MAGA needs to approach government, too. There has been predominantly, traditionally, too much appeasement on the Republican side of cutesy little processes and bureaucratic backstops. Well, those times are over.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And when you have the yoke, when you have the mantle, when you have the momentum and the wind at your back, a mandate from the public like Donald J. Trump got, then you have to use every single tool in your arsenal to carry out your campaign pledges. So I'm ecstatic, frankly, with the speed and the ferocity with which they're operating.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Have you looked at the mayoral's police and crime report from December the 12th? You look at that, almost every single measure out of 42, only four of them, in four categories, did crime go down. In every single other area, double-digit rises in crime across London. So you know what? To borrow a phrase from Donald Trump, London's turning into a shithole under Sadiq Khan.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Yeah, you look, you only had to pay attention to the what were public details about how London's left wing mayor, Sadiq Khan, was running the city into the ground. which I did, but the press didn't want to do it, which is what led to that kind of altercation on Sky News. Never been invited back since, obviously. But you now see today a London wildly unrecognisable from even 10 years ago.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And even 10 years ago, it was wildly unrecognisable from 10 years prior. The idea of public safety has gone out of the window. You're seeing mass stabbing events, shootings. Yes, that's right. We actually have guns and shootings in the United Kingdom, much to the chagrin of the Second Amendment haters out there who use that falsely as an example. And you've got no integration.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
You've got no assimilation. Multiculturalism has led to pockets of foreign cities, enclaves, inside our capital. It happens all across Europe. In 2017, I went across Europe and the United Kingdom. I wrote a book called No-Go Zones, which laid everything out. It was, here's what's going to happen in the next 10 years if we don't arrest this immediately.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And surely enough, as The Telegraph reported yesterday, the story you allude to, one in 12 people in London now, up to one in 12, are illegal migrants, illegal residents of the United Kingdom. And of course, that comes with a backstop, a plethora of issues with it, a higher level of criminality, higher levels of homelessness, higher levels of violence.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
sex trafficking, human trafficking, you name it. The illegal migrant population has all of those running rampant in their midst. And we have and we continue to have a mayor and a city government that refuses to do anything about it. That is what you have avoided by electing Donald Trump this time around.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Yeah, massively so. Look, I remember being probably the first mugger hat owner in the United Kingdom back in 2015. And even my closest friends, my most right-wing acquaintances, sort of looked at me side-eyed and said, well, you know, that's all a bit silly, right?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And as time has progressed and as people who have seen Donald Trump's track record, his commitment to all of this, how the movement has broadened, so much, especially in the last 18, 24 months. Much credit, Charlie, to you and your team who have done so much of that hard work that's led to that. They're now looking at it and going, you know what?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
You might have had a point with that bag of hat back in 2015. And I can't tell you now, I see Brits all the time. I saw them on the Tunnel to Towers charity run last year, some of the firemen from over there. I see them all the time now. They go, you know what? We wish we had somebody like Trump over in the UK. Now, look, it's possible. We know Nigel.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
We know he's got a big election in 2029, but it's a long way off.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Well, what really changed was the mandate, the public mandate for all of this stuff was And you've seen it popping up in places all across the country in smaller scales. You know, Governor DeSantis, for as much as we had to go entering the primary, has done a fantastic job tackling what he calls woke in Florida. And so you've seen the bubbling up, the grassroots reaction to so much of this stuff.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
How much money is being spent on it? How many diversity and inclusion offices are there operating? Not just within government, by the way, but within government-sponsored NGOs across the board, state department, embassies all around the world. And the mandate changed. So Donald Trump was actually given express orders by the voting public to end this stuff.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And they just were not there five, 10 years ago. It wasn't, it was a pre... Bud Light, Dylan Mulvaney kind of world. And there has just been so many people who have brought this to Elon Musk and Libs of TikTok and all these guys kind of unveiling this, you know, for the public to actually, you know, really have this election was like a referendum on that stuff.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And en masse, the American public said, get rid of it now. Government should have certain statutory functions. That is not one of them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
Yeah, it's a really important story, really fascinating sequence of events, because, of course, you know, whether or not people really still think about it, the United Kingdom is America's largest military ally. It is one of America's largest economic trading partners.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
And so the embassy, the ambassador and the interoperationality, when you look at Five Eyes, when you look at NATO, when you look at the bilateral information sharing, intelligence sharing that goes on, That's a pretty big deal.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
There's a reason that the British embassy is one of the largest in Washington, D.C., and it speaks to the fecklessness and arrogance of the British government that for so long they have appointed ambassadors who are nasty about Donald Trump, who have said horrendous things, who have terrible things in their own past. And the latest to be floated for this plenipotentiary position is
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
is Lord Mandelson. Now, I don't necessarily expect everyone to remember or know who Lord Mandelson is, but in brief, he was one of the top advisors, known as the Dark Lord, to the left-wing Prime Minister Tony Blair in 97 onwards to about 2007. He was deeply responsible for Britain's social and economic decline. He was deeply responsible for drawing the UK closer into the
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
that Keir Starmer, the current prime minister, would shove somebody like Lord Mandelson to the embassy in DC and expect him to be taken seriously is a great affront to President Trump. It's a great affront to the American public and what they voted for. It shows a deep disconnect of Britain with America right now. And I'm frankly...
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
embarrassed about that and apologetic, actually, to all of you about that. Lord Mandelson, with his longstanding, long reported, by the way, in case you're worried about any libel laws, links to Jeffrey Epstein. Lord Mandelson, who has said some of the most skullduggerous things about Donald Trump.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
He simply would not be able, and by the way, still pulls, I believe, a pension from the European Union. So where do his loyalties lie? I don't think he would be an effective ambassador. And now we're hearing that actually in a relatively unprecedented move, I did some research into this,
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
It may be the case that Donald Trump actually refuses his credentials, which is in the gift of the receiving country of an ambassador to do, but it's deeply unheard of. I think the last time you guys did it was some corruption scandal in Korea yesterday. in early 2000s. And before that, it was Iran, Cuba, and before that, it was Nazi Germany.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
So for that to be considered at that extent actually is a major, major diplomatic move that we need to pay close attention to. It tells you something. It tells you that it's not business as usual for this incoming Trump administration and that they're just simply not going to put up with it anymore. They did that the first four years. They had terrible ambassadors.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
They had terrible situations diplomatically. We don't need another of those situations here. And Lord Mandelson represents that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
It's a great question. I don't know that I've put together a list yet, but I sure would like to resurrect Stephen K. Bannon's old whiteboard from his West Wing office that I believe ended up getting buried in the White House storage in the basement after he left in 2017. There are so many things left on that which remain unticked. I think we have to get our heads around this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
the legal immigration issue into the United States because there is such a scam going on with all of that as well. I think it should be relatively prioritized. I also think, look, there are plenty of opportunities here. And I know that people like Elon Musk and Donald Trump are not going to miss out on these.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
There are plenty of cultural opportunities as America reaches its 250th anniversary, as you know, you're hosting the World Cup. There are all these huge cultural events that are going to be taking place over that, you know, thousand plus days that you mentioned, that I think you have to embrace.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
I think you have to inculcate Trumpism, MAGAism into the American psyche over these next four years, too. Let's have a McDonald Trump day, a national cheat day, a national Baja cheat day for America. Changing the culture is as important as changing the politics. And there's lots of things that can happen between now and then. But listen, you say there's four years. There's not.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
There's like two years. You've got to get these things done this side of the midterms. That's right.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Biden Pardons His Family of Criminals
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.