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on a weekday. So like deal, and then we shake hands. And then there are times where he tries to go back on the deal, and he makes deals with his sister too. And like, he'll try to go back on it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. If you make a deal, you have to stick to it. So making sure that he understands that if you say, if you give your word on something, you have to back that up.
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Um, so, so teaching them that I guess is another part of the, the money story. And I like them to just, it's so funny. My husband and I will go for walks or whatever, and we'll be talking about business is my husband's a CFO. Um, and so we're having business conversations and my daughter's hanging out with us listening in.
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And my husband's like, yep, you stay right there and listen to all of this, you know, soak it in. Um, so teaching her just about like the different strategies that we, we try and, you know, marketing moves are making or whatever different investments that we're making and why we're doing it. Um, and explaining that to her, willing to have that conversation, you know, like we bought a beach house.
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Let's talk about how, you know, we're only going to use it for the summer, but we're going to rent it out during the other parts of the year. And that's going to cover the cost of what we're paying for the summer. or like what we're paying for it all year long. So this is the strategy and explaining it to her so she can start to see. And it's like, it's repetition, right?
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It's us having those conversations over and over again over time. And there's something about the eldest daughter. I don't know what it is, but she's gonna be running this whole empire. You can already tell.
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yeah well i think it's just about seeing opportunity and feeling expansive and seeing abundance versus seeing everything as small and not possible and like does it cut off your opportunities or does it create opportunity for you you know So I think that's the difference, right? And just making decisions that are going to create more abundance in your life.
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And sometimes it's the opposite of what personal finance people say, right? Like personal finance people are always like, budget, budget, budget, budget is king, budget is ruler, right? Like you are beholden to the budget, nothing else rules. Never go outside the budget, blah, blah, blah, right? And it's, I think it's more than that.
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Collect evidence to prove what you want to believe, right? And see if you can find out that it's true. Maybe it won't be, but you probably will find that it is. Because a lot of our thinking, it's just like, it's just something, it's a thought that was planted there in childhood or from whatever interactions we had that are memorable moment that are kind of stuck, right?
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I don't think it's just about, money is about, yes, you have a balance sheet, you do math, Money is math as well, but it's also feeling, right? So like the advice that's always given to women about like, don't stop buying lattes, stop buying shoes, cut coupons. It's like, that doesn't make me feel rich. That doesn't make me feel abundant or feel wealthy.
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It makes me feel broke if I can't afford to buy a coffee when I have a good job and I work hard every day, you know?
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Um, so what does make me, if I, but if I buy a latte every day and that makes me feel fabulous as I sit and drink my latte and think about whatever it is that I'm thinking about, when I have that feeling, I'm, I'm more likely to create things that will add value to the world and get me paid.
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Yes, and I'm not saying like, oh, go buy a Lamborghini, you know, if you don't have Lamborghini money, right? I'm not saying do that, but like, how can you find ways to feel abundant every day? And it's not just that, it's like, you know, I was staying at a place, it was not an expensive place in Laguna a couple of weeks ago. I'm sorry, a couple of days ago.
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And you know, it's like not a fancy room at all, but it had this gorgeous ocean view. And I listened to the ocean as I fell asleep, like that is abundance.
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right and i went for a run like along the beach that was amazing it cost me nothing to go for that run you know what i mean so it's like sometimes it's just sitting outside and petting your cat and being in the sun and taking a few minutes for yourself makes you feel abundant so it's not always dollars but finding that way to just sort of attract that and to feel like spaciousness like i have time i have you know the ability right i i have creativity you have a wealth of things
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And the reality is, if you live in the US, you have a lot more than a lot of other people around the world, right? So you are rich, right? Whether you think you are or not living in this country for most people. And so if that's the case, right? How can we start to think that way?
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Yes. I think it's, you know, all of the things that we're inundated with every day, like the different media might be the shows that we watch, you know, like people joke about like watching a sitcom and like somebody, you know, she's a waitress, but she has this fabulous apartment in Manhattan. It's like, really?
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So I think it's sometimes the things that we expose ourselves to and we can just choose to expose ourselves to other things, right? We can be exposed to a lot of things that tell you like, oh, you're not good enough or you're not smart enough or you're overweight or you're whatever, all kinds of messages that we get every day.
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And so you gotta curate that, you know, curate your Instagram feed, right? Curate who's in your ear. If you have somebody who, you know, if your mom or your friend from childhood is always making you feel like you're broke, stop talking to them. Like talk to them. I mean, I'm not saying cut them off, but like maybe don't be on group chat with them every day, you know?
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And it's creating this like, This neural pathway that we just keep walking every day. We just keep saying that to ourselves. And so the way we create a new pathway is we got to start digging that path, right? To go a different direction. And the way you dig that path is start collecting evidence of the opposite. So look for examples of wealthy people who aren't, you know, trash humans, right?
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But be on group chat with people who have that abundant thinking, right? Who are thinking expansively. And also, you know what makes me feel rich? Saying no makes me feel rich. Like we just talked about, right? Like having boundaries and somebody asking me, do I want to do that thing? Whether it's a money thing or not. And just saying, no, I don't want to go to that party.
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Or no, I don't want to do that thing. And just feeling like comfortable doing that. That feels abundant.
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Yes. OK, so like we just hit eight figures. And here's something that I just caught with myself doing is being like, well, I know how to run a seven figure business. I don't know how to run an eight figure business. I don't know how to run a $10 million business. Yes. And it's like, that's not true actually.
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Like maybe there are some things that I don't know about this next phase, but that doesn't mean I can't figure it out. Or, and there doesn't mean that there aren't things that I do know. So I've had to like, this is an ongoing journey, right? Where you're having to constantly correct yourself and say like, stop talking like that. Cause that's actually not helping anything. So what do you know?
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What evidence do you have that you are the right leader for this organization during this next phase? Because I think being a founder and an entrepreneur creating something is different than continuing something and continuing to scale it. And I've seen this happen with some of my peers too, like your company gets to a certain size and you're like, should I even be CEO anymore?
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Maybe you shouldn't, I mean, or maybe you should, right? Maybe it's just imposter syndrome. So I think that's one of the things that I'm kind of dealing with. And I also think something that I recently went through that I feel like I'm coming out of is trusting myself with this amount of money. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. And I've had like, you know, you have different financial advisors that you go to or you're supposed to get advice. And they tell me to do things or they don't. Here's the interesting thing. They tell me to do things that I don't want to do. And then the things that I do want to do and I do get excited about investing in, they tell me not to do it.
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And I'm like, well, but that's the thing I want to do. Right. Right. And to me, it makes financial sense. And they tell me why they think I shouldn't. And I'm like, still want to do it though.
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Like, okay, like buying this beach house this year, right? That is something. And I bought that beach house for my family so that I was just imagining being on the beach with my kids like all summer long. And we live in a landlocked area. I love water. I like being near water. And so it was like, this will be absolutely amazing. Right.
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And we usually go like one or two weeks, you rent, and it's so expensive. And so I'm like, why do that? We could buy something, we could rent it, and then we could use it during the summer. And it was the best summer ever.
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All summer long, my family came down, my friends came to visit. Beach houses attract people.
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This is in North Carolina. Okay, cool. And the beaches in North Carolina are amazing. So, you know, we've had an amazing time at this like expensive piece of property that my financial advisor told me absolutely do not buy.
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I hope that I'm an example, right? And that there are plenty of others out there. So, you know, try to challenge those, you know, just... And I think it's just societal views. It's things that we tell ourselves. I don't know why. Maybe to make ourselves feel better for not trying to go after what we want. I don't know why we do it, but we do it. And... I think we can change it.
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Exactly. And it doesn't have to make money, right? Like I have other ways to make money. I can, if I can, and I can break even on it. So I'm like, I could have all of this amazing time with my family and it allows me to be generous. Like one of the, I just invested in a startup, which is another thing that I was like, it's
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feeling uncomfortable about you know and so um the founder was like just on this like big work sprint and doing so much to get this company up and running and she was like gonna go on a vacation she asked me where to go in north carolina and i was like oh come stay at my beach house. And just like that, you know what I mean? Like being able to do things like that is, it's awesome.
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And I've done that for a couple of friends now and it just feels so good. So I think it was worth it. It may break even, it may make me a little bit of money, but like, that's okay. And I had it, I could afford it. I had the money to do it. So it's just like, I've had to learn to listen to my own voice. Here's the other thing that happens to me a lot with
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financial advisors and like accountants and like all the financial people not all of them but most of them in my life they all are like well you know in order to do xyz we need to make another million dollars or we need to do this or that or whatever and it's like that's not possible we can look at that for next year or the year after and i'm like oh no i'm gonna go make that million right now let's go
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And they're like, we shouldn't be doing that. That's not possible. You're gonna break the business.
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Exactly. And they don't believe me. And I'm like, I want you to look at the P&Ls for the last three years of this business and then come at me again and tell me that I can't do it. Like, what are you talking about? Of course I could do it. And I'm like, here's the problem. It's happening inevitably, right? Like we are naturally growing. It's just ramping up. Exactly. There's an audience there.
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There's more and more people interested in what we're selling. Like it's happening anyway. And that's the other thing. We create these projections and they're like, we're not going to hit those projections. And I'm like, your projections are too low. Like you need to go with mine and inevitably. we always exceed it every year.
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And then I'm like, it becomes a problem because you actually can't plan, right? If you're like really undershooting. So then you grow too much, you don't have enough team to cover it, right? Like all of those things. So learning to trust my own instincts over all of these quote unquote experts, and they are experts and they definitely advise me on different things.
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But when it comes to like my own skillset and what I know I'm capable of doing, I'm just like, mm-mm. And there was actually somebody I fired because they just kept saying, that's not possible. You know, really, you know, you should be more conservative, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, goodbye, get out of my ear. You're not, you're not helping me. You're not putting me in the space of abundance.
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Yes. I think it's all of that. But I think a big part of it is learning how to not do and learning how to lead. That is what takes you from seven to eight. is learning how to have a team, delegate to them, remove yourself from the day to day, and recognizing that the more you remove yourself from the business, the more it's going to grow.
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And I also think there's a different pathway, right? Like, I think there are issues that we experience as people of color, as queer people, as people living with a disability or chronic illness that other people don't have to deal with. And so we might get advice that's like, oh, just do these steps. It's so easy, right?
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Because usually, if there's something dependent on me, I am absolutely holding it up. What I do, it's like you have to keep redefining your role in a company, right? If you're the CEO, then it's like, how does your CEO role change over time when you've hired a COO or you've hired other leaders on your team and you've got this team of copywriters and all kinds of people, coaches on my team, right?
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Like let them do their thing.
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right learn how to get out of the way if you've hired smart people let them do it so really removing yourself and and learning how to lead and have a vision and say hey y'all here's where we're going yes here's where we're trying to go in the next three years um let's talk about how we're gonna get there we'll figure out the how together um and these are the goals we're gonna hit this year and then just let them go and be there to coach them and support them right
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and help them step into their own leadership, help them solve the problems you've solved, like learning how to delegate or learning how to protect your time. Now you've got to teach them how to do that. So that's what that phase was. And what the next phase holds, I have no idea. Probably even more of that. More of that, yeah.
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When it's like, oh, but we're dealing with I got to take care of my mother as well. Like I when I make it, I also have to take care of all the family members who didn't make it right, who need help now that they're approaching retirement. Right. Like there's There's issues that we have that typically straight white guys don't have, right? And so that's why I focus on this audience.
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And it's also just who is attracted to my work as well.
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exactly and that's what i was getting at is the worthiness and the confidence i think sometimes when you know when like there's probably not a black woman in america that hasn't worked in a workplace where she felt undervalued and when you do that for a couple of years you start to believe that your value is less. And so I think that it's important that we have confidence.
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It's important that we ask for the money, right? When we put ourselves out there, when we create work, that we charge for it, right? And demand that people recognize our value.
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So goodbye to that person and move on to the next. Exactly. Find who your audience is. And I think, you know, you got to put it out there to get those no's to be like, oh, these are my people. Let me actually write my copy or present my offer in a way that makes them go away. Exactly. And only attracts the people that are really my people. Right.
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Yes. Well, you have to recognize that you are inherently worthy. I was just as valuable as I am today, you know, 15 years ago.
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Yes. Well, I think, again, it's environment. Starting to spend time with people who had confidence and believed in themselves and what they saw in me. right, like realizing what other people see in me that I don't see in myself. And you need that reflection back. And that's why you got to surround yourself. I mean, I have to tell you, like, I've been spending time in L.A.
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this week with, you know, black women entrepreneurs that I talk to on Twitter all the time. And like, listen, the way that they will hype you up, you know, you've got this girl. Exactly. We hype each other up. And that's so important. You need that. And I've had that since I was a kid. Like, I had friends who would hype me up, you know.
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So I think we need that in our lives and we gotta put ourselves out there, be a friend first, right? And then you'll find that squad and you'll start to create that community around yourself. And then there's no way you can't believe it when you're surrounded by people who are constantly reflecting it back to you.
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Well, I think it's a process, right? It doesn't happen overnight. I think sometimes we think like, just think better thoughts. And it's like, that's lovely, but that's not working for me. You know, I think, first of all, challenge that belief when it comes into your head.
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When you have that thought, oh, I'm going into this room and I'm excited about it, but I'm intimidated because I don't know that I belong there. And really, just check the receipts. Are you sure you don't belong there? Think about who you are as a person. What do you have to offer the world? What is the value that you bring? What do people ask you to do that is valuable?
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What do they ask you advice on? really just start to check your own receipts to see like, really, is that true? Because usually the people who have imposter syndrome are people who have a very long and impressive resume, right?
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And I wrote about it in my book, how Maya Angelou and Michelle Obama, like these are people who have imposter syndrome, like way far into their career, they felt like they didn't belong in certain rooms, right? Exactly. It's like, what? That makes no sense. And it's true for us as well. Like we'll think that, we're not valuable or we'll have that same imposter syndrome.
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And other people are like, are you crazy? Like, you're amazing. You know, like you're bugging.
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I would say like, they should ask themselves, what do I love about myself? Like I'm funny, I'm smart, I'm strategic, I have great fashion sense. Whatever it is, what is something that you love about yourself and think about how you're bringing that energy to that room. And just recognize that that is a lie and it is a practice. I used to be such a mean girl to myself in my head every single day.
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I said that I was not smart, stupid. You know, I said that like, I can't figure this out. I'm bad at business. I'm not good at making money. I'm not good at practicing law, which is what I did before, you know, my current business. Like I would, I would, I'm a bad mother. Like, I mean, I said every cruel thing that I could possibly say.
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I mean, it made me feel bad, right? Like it made me feel bad and it made me wanna go get under the covers for three days. And sometimes I did, right? And then I would get my back up and go back to work because I had to, because I had kids to support, but I would do that too. And what helped is meeting women who believe in themselves and just being around that energy.
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It's just like that energy is gonna bring you along. Because I think sometimes we think like, oh, I have to do all of this in my head. And once I fix it in my head, then I can go be around people. No, no, no. You need to go be around people because that's what's going to fix it. You know, being in that environment, our community, our environment, it affects us so much. It does.
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So it's so crucially important to be surrounded by positive people who believe in possibility. Yes.
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so that's what i would say and when i'm going to enter rooms like i go into intimidating rooms all the time and i think now i just think like i'm just gonna be myself and if myself isn't good enough in this room then i don't want to be in this room right next you know next room next room do you think money buys us happiness No, I think.
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But I think it buys a roof over your head, which is happiness. Right. Like so, you know, sometimes people when people talk about like money doesn't matter or whatever, I'm not beholden to money or they think it's a moral high ground to act like I don't care about money. Right.
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So like you feel better about yourself because you don't care about money and your nose is in there because you don't care about money. I'm just like this is a person who has never been poor. You know, like this is a person who is not aware of the real reality. economic situation for so many people.
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And I think if you are aware of that, then you recognize that money is a powerful tool that enables you to take care of and feed your children, that enables you to house yourself, right? Like just like the baseline, I have been in a place for many years, my family was, and then I was as a young adult where like, you know, my like electric went out, right?
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And we didn't have lights for a week until my mom got paid again. or where we didn't have food or we were on food stamps and I'd be embarrassed to use it and there's only certain things we could buy with it. I've had that real financial insecurity and I think anybody who has had that understands that money is very important. The idea that it's not important is complete nonsense.
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And it's like, that's a reason you're telling yourself that I would love to coach that person and dig into why are you telling yourself? Why do you have that story? What is it doing for you? Right. Because the reality is, is that money is an important tool in the way that our society is organized today. And so we need it and, you know, we need to learn how to get it.
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And that's exactly why I do what I do to teach people how to get it and show them that it is possible for you to create it on your own, you know? But yes, this idea that like, you know, money's not important or whatever. Money is for bad people. I'm like, look, money pays the bills. Okay. Like, let's get back to basics here. All right. I think y'all are forgetting something.
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And then once you have that baseline level of security, you can decide, do I want more? And if I do, how much more? And here's what I say all the time, you know, when people are like, well, how much is enough, right? You're a millionaire or your business is making X amount of money. Like, isn't that enough? Why do you still strive for more? And I tell them because I am black.
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because there is a huge wealth chasm in this country. And as long as my people need money, and I'm good at earning it, I'm gonna keep earning it and then put it where I think it belongs, right? So there's a certain amount of security I want for myself and my children. And frankly, I feel like I have that at this stage. So I've done that part. So it's like check.
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Yeah. Well, challenge that belief, right? The way that we change our thinking is to challenge those beliefs. So like literally write down the thing that you believe and then, you know, write down all the evidence that you can collect. That tells you the opposite. Like, that's how we change our mindset. Right. You know, so if I'm telling myself I'm not smart, I can collect all the evidence.
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And so now the next thing to do is how can I spread it around? You know, like how can I have it be making change for people and change people's lives? Because I recognize money changes lives. And so I think it's important to just recognize money is neutral. It's not positive or negative. It's a tool.
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And it's how we use that tool that determines whether something bad happens or something evil happens or if you have a positive goal with it.
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I've met millionaires who are unhappy and I know plenty of happy ones. I think there's both. And I think it's like, I mean, here's the benefit, right? If you're a millionaire and you're unhappy, you could probably go purchase some therapy. You can maybe go to a retreat, right? Like you can spend some time off, right? You can spend some money on figuring out how to solve that problem.
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I don't think it's money in itself that's making them miserable.
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You know, maybe it could be, but maybe it's just because they're choosing to make it their master instead of really leading their own lives and directing their own lives. Like you were saying, right? Like living in L.A., right? Everybody's got a Ferrari or a Lamborghini or something and you got a scooter.
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Yes, but see, that's where we get into trouble is if we're like, oh, because somebody else has it, I have to have it. It's like, do you want it? Is that something that you even care about?
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Well, I like to teach them about consistency, which I think is about money.
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Yeah. Like you got to show up and you got to do this every day. And it's like, you did it for five days and they're like, well, I did it for five days. Why can't I get credit for that? And it's like, that's great. But this is the kind of thing where you got to show up. So teaching them really about habits and about like having a work ethic.
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If you want something, are you willing to put some sweat equity into it so you can have it? And so teaching them that I think is a core money principle. And then I also teach them about business. I teach them about entrepreneurship, that you can create a business and sell anything and make money from your own creative ideas. So I want them to learn that.
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So my daughter is always like making books or she's making like little gifts for people for their birthdays. And she's an artist and I want to teach her to value her art. This beautiful thing that you created, we can hang it on the wall and that adds value to people's lives. So you can charge for that.
The School of Greatness
How To Break Free From Financial Anxiety & Create Wealth
So just having those conversations and showing them even things that they're creating now have value.
The School of Greatness
How To Break Free From Financial Anxiety & Create Wealth
or things that they're willing to do. Like my son is like very techie. So I'm like, oh, the remote's not working. My eight year old, and he's been doing this since he was six. He's like, mom, just give it to me. He like fixes it all. So, you know, he has that natural skill. Like it's obviously a natural skill. Who taught him? I didn't teach him nothing. I don't even know how to do it.
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How To Break Free From Financial Anxiety & Create Wealth
Maybe he learned by watching my husband. I don't know. But, you know, I want him to see that like, oh, your ability to come in and fix that for somebody who doesn't know how that that adds value. That's that's something you could charge for if you wanted to in the future. So like teaching them that and asking them to do things and telling them like, you know,
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How To Break Free From Financial Anxiety & Create Wealth
Well, I graduated from law school. I graduated from undergrad summa cum laude. Right. Like, actually, there's evidence that I am smart. You know, let me point that out.
The School of Greatness
How To Break Free From Financial Anxiety & Create Wealth
if you do xyz i will pay you so i negotiate a lot with them so you know it's like we did this family photo shoot um recently and my son absolutely hates taking photos he hates getting dressed up he hates the whole production of it and so i'm like okay so you do this for mommy and you make sure you smile in all of the pictures and you have to like not like untuck your shirt and do all those things and if you do all of that then i'm going to allow you to play video games tonight for two hours