Purnima Ramarao
Appearances
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
It looks like a homicide scene. The most strangest thing is that officer who comes, goes inside the crime scene, touches his gun box, everything with bare hands without any gloves. He's already contaminated the crime scene.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He was already there.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He's not replied to my email. We are trying to. We would really want to get in touch with him.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He left.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
I believe instead of blaming something, I would think he's busy with his own startup. He just started SSI, his own startup. He's probably very busy with it. If he knows, he might be open to talk. But one thing which I shared in Tucker's interview as well, December 15th or so, when he went to an AI summit or some conference, Ilya had security guards around him, armed gunmen around him. Why?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He's scared of his life. Why is that? Who is against him? Who would kill him? Why?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
I think it's one of his assignments, maybe a few months, a year or so. Suchir worked on different assignments. First assignment was web GPT research paper. That might be working closely with Ilya. And then he worked on feeding the training data. That is the most frustrating experience for him. And then he tuned up the chat GPT and made it work very efficiently and faster.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
That's a significant contribution by Suchir.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Everything he knows.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yeah, but Sushil knew the risk he was running into. He writes in his journal. I wish I could share it. He writes in his journal that I'm a credible threat because of New York Times.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
About himself. I'm a credible threat. Sorry, I changed the topic. I'm a credible threat because of New York Times.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yes, he writes.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He likes Ilya. He's a good person.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Absolutely. Complimenting Ilya.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He doesn't trust Sam Altman.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He is manipulative and full of lies. For that, one of his friends was trying to convince Suchir, look, they have to say that because being a CEO and all the VCs are interested, he has to blow up. But Suchir said there's no integrity for him. I'll give an example of that. I think March 2024, One of the OpenAI employees left OpenAI and he wanted to whistleblow.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
They put a condition for him that he cannot speak negative about the company. If he spoke, he would not get his stock options. That guy, he refused to take, he accepted the loss of stock options, but he whistleblowed what they did. Then Sam Altman said, I never knew anything about it. I'm so sorry, I'll change it, but it has a signature in it.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He was an O1 contributor. He was a very significant contributor. Even in the video of OpenAI employees, my son comes there. I mean, the introduction to OpenAI, there's a video for the incoming employees. My son is there.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yes, he was there. He was very shy to talk. He didn't speak anything. He's very shy as such.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
That I don't have in the journal. Some of the employees should share.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He met once. But Sam Altman sent a note for us after Suchir passed away. He knew that Suchir made a significant contribution.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He wanted to, but we didn't want to talk to him.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He did not reach out to us. We reached out to HR to know about his beneficiary and other information. Then he said, but they keep saying they'll support the family. What have they done? Now we have a request to them. Let's keep it confidential. We're going to go to them. Let's see if they accommodate our request.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
It's private request. It's about?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Let's see if they support. As such, they got back saying that there's no open AI. There's no email that originated from my son about copyright. Your son left open AI in very good terms. He didn't do anything until we saw in New York Times. We didn't know about his whistleblowing activity. That could not be true. You know why?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
There's something, right? We need to discover. And what we know is emails could have been deleted. Evidences could have been wiped out. There are a few other employees, formal employees of OpenAI who have a lawsuit against them. They say their emails were deleted. I don't want to make any conspiracy theory, but we would not rule out any of those.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
That's exactly why we are saying FBI should get involved and investigate.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
FBI.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
No, they're all scared for their life, obviously.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He spoke to me on the morning of his birthday. He knows mom will be very anxious. So he called himself at 9.45. He said, I'm with my friends in the evening. I won't have time. So he called me off. I wished him and I blessed him. That blessing did not protect him. I blessed him. I made wishes to him. He just wrapped up. Then next morning, I think there was an instinctive message for me.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
I saw four-year-old Suchir in my dream. And that four-year-old boy was very thoughtful. Very thoughtful. Because I'm going to get another news, right? That could be the thing. I even have the evidence of texting it to Swachir. And he just said, ha, ha, ha. That was at 8.30 in the morning. Again at 11, I checked with him. He said, we are taking off now. Is the weather good? Is your flight delayed?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He said, I'm taking off now. His flight was delayed, but he didn't say, I'm taking off now. And then at 4.45,
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
What happens next? What happens next is, let me tell one more context. 1.33 p.m., we have seen the CCTV video of Suchir coming back home with a huge suitcase from backpacking. He looks very fit, very healthy, very happy. Then 7.02, he goes out very quickly to get his dinner and comes back. Even in that picture, even in that video, he seems perfectly normal.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
We had seen activity on his browser history until 10, 8 p.m. One of the conversations he was searching for is, how do I leave a messenger conversation, iMessage group conversation of three? And then the Google search he was reading was being sabotaged or something.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Sabotaged.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
And another thing he was looking for was neuroscience. Neuroscience.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
10.18 p.m., yes.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He was researching. Obviously, he was researching till then.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
He was searching about that too, yes.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yeah, we had a conversation about a black cat.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Afterwards, we don't know anything else. We know that until 2018 he was browsing. I called him next morning at 12.15. His phone rang twice and it went to voicemail. I assumed he was talking to someone on the phone. I wasn't concerned about his well-being that day. And prior to this, he spent his vacation with his friends, right? He was upbeat.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Everybody who he went with have already given report to news agencies. There was a journalist who spoke to 10 of his friends. All of them said he was happy. He didn't show any signs of depression. He was not withdrawn. He was always in the company of people. Typically, people who are suicidal, they become isolated. They don't take part. I have journals.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
What I did was I took the Venmo receipts of how many times Suchir has met his friends over the period. Tons of times he's met with them. I checked his Google mail. And there are tons of strangers he's meeting as well. That was the last conversation I had with Suchir.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
are you meeting any strangers because we believe in astrology my sister pointed out until December 15th there is kind of like there are some signs that you know he should be careful I told him you know what it shows like in isolation or in hospital something grave like that are you meeting any strangers He said, yes, of course, I'm meeting strangers.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
I told him to keep low profile till December 15th. And he writes in his journal, my mom said, I'm going to do that.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Always. You know, if he's outdoor packing or biking or something, then he calls back in the evening when he gets back home. All day he didn't call me today. Then I wasn't really worried. Our usual call time is Saturday morning, 11 o'clock or 12 o'clock or Sunday. This has been going on since he started at Berkeley. So next morning, 12.15, I called him.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
next day he didn't answer i started that time i was really anxious because whole day i haven't heard from him there has been tons of emails and again i sent another message email message usually what happens is if he doesn't pick up the phone because he's busy my email always gets response and i sent him a email no response i left a voicemail no response by evening my anxiety grew very high
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Then Monday, what I did was I went and knocked on his door.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
November 25th.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
His door was locked. I didn't see any bad smell or anything coming.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
No, I did check with the leasing office. They said we cannot. If the police come, we can.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Not yet. They came later. They came at 4.30 p.m.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
I called at 3 o'clock. I called at 3 o'clock. I called a dispatch and told them to go check on my son. I haven't heard from him. I'm worried about his well-being. They seem to have seen in the CCTV footage at 4.30 p.m. two men from the firefighters group, two firefighters and two police. They went into his apartment. They knocked on the door. He did not open. They didn't even inform me.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
I was anxious. I called at 5.30 to follow up what happened. Then they said, ma'am, we cannot go inside the apartment without you. Here is my understanding. You know what? When they went, they knew he was probably dead. Usually there is no such protocol that unless I go, they should open the door, right?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Because in few other cases, police have opened the door when there is a question of welfare or concerns about someone's safety. Here they particularly said you come we will open the door because they wanted someone to take responsibility of the body and sign. So they knew on Monday at 4.30. It's very, and why would they do that? And cops, first two people came on 26th.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
I'm sure you're going to come to that. First two people came at 26th at 1.13 p.m. They went inside and they came back. and they were talking it since the leasing office manager corey veletti he after all these things in february we talked to him and he mentioned that they were talking among themselves that it's a homicide two of them and they said they did not listen lady is saying it's homicide
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
This is on 26th, 1.15 p.m. They were talking among themselves. This is a homicide case. How to deal with it, right?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
This is from BWC, body wound camera of the cop. Leasing manager told before that.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
No, leasing manager covered up. I'll come to that point. Two officers who came at 1.13 p.m. with two firefighters, they have gone inside. They have checked. They've seen the body and they were talking among themselves. This is a homicide scene. How do we handle this?
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
It looks like a homicide scene. And then they were not able to, how do we handle this? They were looking for guidance. And then they came out and said, they came out. I checked with them. What happened? Did you see my son? Is he there? The only thing I said is, please check and make sure he's traveling. If he's not there, his laptop will not be there. His toothbrush will not be there.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
That was the only thing I was expecting. I had no idea that this kind of thing can happen. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Thank you. Thank you.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Thank you for hosting us. We hope our son's tragedy and his sacrifice reaches everyone and his mission gets fulfilled.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
There's a lot of new findings. And we're still waiting for the conclusive report from specific experts. First and foremost is the toxicology report. We received the autopsy and toxicology report. Toxicology report shows 0.178 alcohol level. That's a big alarm for us because we know our son was not a regular drinker. He was only a social drinker. I still have the messages with his friends.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
So she was a social drinker. And if he's not used to drinking, that will make him impaired with that high level of alcohol. Even if we think there's an endogenous alcohol produced in the body because of the microbial activity, that will only be 10 to 15%.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
It's very, very high.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
And it also pointed GHB. Though the medical examiner is saying like it's endogenous, in their own autopsy report it says only the GHB that's more than 50,000 nanograms per liter is included. So this GHB is called out. That means it was more than 50,000 nanograms per second.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
And also, even though you can calculate for nanograms how many nanograms are produced, we're still waiting on this chief toxicologist from another state, his report on his conclusive findings. Verbally, he has told it's a possibility that he could be intoxicated. It's a sedative. Combination is a sedative.
PBD Podcast
"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
And when the police told me that my son shot himself, first question I asked, did you find any drugs? Did you find any alcohol? Because Suchit doesn't do anything. I want to make sure someone didn't harm him in any way. They said, no, we didn't find anything. And SFPD, do we need to teach them? Just because the main reason they're saying is no one went in, no one went out.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Who's against him? Who would kill him? Why?
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
His rooms and door was closed. Do we need to teach SFPD to tell someone can make a duplicate keys to enter his apartment? It's pretty easy, doable. Do we need to tell them? And do we need to tell SFPD that they can get friendly with the maintenance staff and get access to the building through them? And other suspicion we have on leasing offices, they have not released all the key FOB data.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
They've only released the ones for security. For other maintenance staff, we don't have. And we want to find out, you know, was there anyone who left the job after this? Right? We want to investigate, has anyone, do we see anyone getting a lot of money? Unusually, unnecessarily, you know.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
This was recorded January 4th.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yeah.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Nothing has been moved except they put that fan over there. And this fan, you know what? Another interesting observation from CCTV. Before even the body was removed, they had this fan come in. And what I was told is they rented this from another company. Within two hours, where can they get this fan delivered? We can show you the CCTV footage. Someone is bringing in. The body is still there.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Medical examiner hasn't come in. At that time, around 3 p.m., they're bringing this exhaust fan inside the complex. How did they know?
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
26th at 3 p.m.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
One hour later, they said it's a suicide.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Did leasing age, anyone in the leasing office knew he was no more? Possibly because the police said we cannot enter unless you come. That means they want someone to authorize the signature, right? Right.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Some medications. He was taking that ADHD medication. Most people take that to be alert.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
It's some sinus medicine or something like that.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
And that day also he had taken cold medicine. He had taken maybe allergy, anti-allergy medicine. They were on his desk.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yeah, that's the strange thing for us. We don't understand how that's possible. And he's not a regular drinker. Like, I just even question myself, someone who's so high in alcohol level. Let's take endogenous alcohol formation reduces 15%, right? Even then it's high for someone who's not used to. Can he even shoot himself?
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
That's a second one. A radiologist has confirmed there is a second bullet, but we're still waiting for more confirmation from it.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yes, food was spilled on the floor. That is probably to make an impression that he was drunk and kind of things.
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"There’s A Second Bullet" – OpenAI Whistleblower's Parents REVEAL New Evidence & Autopsy BOMBSHELL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 567
Yeah, we removed his computer by then. His desktop was removed. And recently we picked up all his handwritten notes, his design notes, everything, so we can give it for analysis. Why is the dust like vacuum lying down there? Who vacuumed that time? He just came back from a trip. He hasn't had any time. Did the assassins, did they clean up? That's our question.
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Sure. Suchir was a prodigy. He showed the strong signs of how genius he is. From the age of 13 months, he picked up all the alphabets in one month. No, one week, actually. His dad was going to, my husband was going to school. He was studying master's. So we were doing the technical discussions, coding discussions. I was already in that line. So we both used to talk technical stuff.
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And the bloodshot is very, very disturbing for us to see.
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No, it's okay. We've even seen the autopsy pictures. We've seen the crime scene pictures. But for the viewers, I'm concerned. The living room is very clean. His bedroom is ransacked completely.
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Bedroom is ransacked. And the drawers in the bathroom are left open.
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That's the gun box, and that's the receipt of the gun. He owned a gun a year ago.
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He bought it 20, 24 January.
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Yeah.
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A pen drive, probably. I don't know.
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you know why why they would have ransacked so she knew a lot of secrets they knew he's going to he's very smart he'll hide somewhere even now i have the hope as a mother i know my son will not leave go without any evidence even now i believe but we haven't found anything his pen drive we found that we were talking about we found a pen drive but it's corrupt completely
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That's the gun bag.
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That we don't know, right? Okay.
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This was by a crime scene investigator. He took this video, not us.
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And the blood here, if you notice the blood near the back, it looks like spitting or coughing blood. And it's outside the main area. If I show the picture of the body, the body was inside. Head was towards this door corner, the hinge of the door and the door frame. And if you see like there's no sign of Suchir walking around after he was shot finally. The final shot for him is fatal.
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He lost his life immediately. Where is all the blood spatter from? The spitting of the blood, we have something to corroborate.
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Our CSI mentioned that this could be from the head injury. Potentially, when he was in the bathroom, he might have been attacked from behind because there's a head injury here. He believes that smaller spatters are from the head injury. And we've also seen a knee injury.
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Absolutely. We have seen everything. You know what? Every time I see a pregnant woman, And so my stomach starts flattering because I kept the son, my son in my womb. I gave birth to him and nurtured him, loved him. And I see him lying down in a pool of blood, covered, whole mouth covered with blood, eyes covered with blood. I don't want any mother to go through that.
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This kid used to bring his alphabet book. I also want to study. And then one and a half year old knew to tell the directions. I still remember my mother-in-law used to be in the backseat. And then she used to really enjoy how he guides the direction. This is the way to library. This is the way to McDonald's. He loved McDonald's apple pie.
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They never mentioned it. They never mentioned a head injury.
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They just recovered only one metal piece, bullet. In the CT scan, there were two metal pieces. Medical examiner failed to notice and failed to remove it. It's a serious accountability. They did not even look at their own CT scan. We sent the CT scan to a couple of radiologists, and they think it could be another bullet.
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Corresponding to that, we have seen the wounds in this mouth and the hole in the tongue. I've shared that with you.
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Yeah, this is the radiologist we hired. He's from a different state, but from USA.
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And again, this could be the bullet concept. Different doctors could have different opinions on this. We would not criticize anyone saying this is not a bullet. We are open for all opinions. This is some people's opinion that this is a bullet, and also they confirm the size is 9mm.
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Even our private autopsy did not detect this because he didn't do the CT scan. He's also messed up. He didn't do x-ray. He didn't do CT scan.
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Yeah, we got the official CT scan images. We requested them release the CT scan images. Then we have an overseas consultant doctor. We shared with him. And he exposed all these things. Then what we wanted to do is we wanted to confirm from two other doctors in US. We have the information from two other radiologists. And these people haven't seen any of the autopsy pictures.
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They don't know anything. We just gave the autopsy. We just gave the CT scan and asked them to give an opinion.
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They came up with, radiologists said there are two potentially. I would not say, they say, but I still want to take my words. Be very cautious because credibility of what we say will be lost. This is not something we are saying, but corresponding to what the radiologists say, I've shared a picture of tongue. A tongue has abrasions all along the side and the tongue has a hole in the center.
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Yeah. Why would there be a hole in the tongue? Why there are perforations and abrasions on the edge of the tongue?
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He knew to go to Barnes and Noble to play with the train there. He would give all these directions. He knew to recognize words at 20 months.
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This looks like a hole in the center, right? The blue circle is made and the edges are abrasions or the wound injuries. How can, if a gun is shot here, right? This is the bullet. How can the tongue have a hole? How can there be abrasions? We're looking for answers. We're not coming to any conclusions yet. We want FBI to investigate and we're looking for answers. Why there is wound?
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Why the cheekbone is broken? You can imagine like what we have gone through. Why the cheekbone is broken? They haven't mentioned that in their autopsy report. What level of cover-up is this? Is this incompetence? Is it negligence? Is it on purpose? We don't know.
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Yeah.
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So if this is the case, that's a fatal shot. Even Dr. Cohen has written, even the coroner has written, it touched his brain cell, the fatal bullet. If it touches his brain cell, it's instantaneous death. Then where are all those wounds coming from? Where are the additional blood spatters coming from? Where is the spitting coming from?
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Yeah. And at 13, he built his own computer. He didn't even struggle for a second. He just told me to take him to the store. And when I took him there, he knew what exactly to buy. Seamlessly, he built it. At 14, he wrote a Google Science Fair paper on quantum computing. at 14. at 14 and then it talks about vlsi like the chip design advanced stages of chip design how to optimize the cpu performance
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Corresponding to spitting blood spatter, we see a hole in the tongue. We see... It's such a brutal cold-blooded...
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You can see some extent even here in his body. I'm glad you covered the face. His face was very difficult to watch.
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As a parent, I've seen it.
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If SFPD and OCME medical examiner, if they had done their job, did we have to do all this? Where are they? What are they doing? What is their responsibility? Weren't they supposed to protect the rights of the citizens? Suchir was born in Florida. He's not an immigrant. He's born here in Florida. November 1998. He's an American citizen by birth.
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One of them who spoke about losing the stock options. And then recently another one said about the AI safety. But Suchir's point of view is more significant because he writes about the copyright. And he writes in his journal, copyright is very confusing. So he wrote a scientific research paper. The difference between Suchir and others is Suchir
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proved the copyright violation, and he was going to testify. And Suchir knew what exactly goes into training data. To be more precise, on November 21, New York Times released that OpenAI deleted the copyright data that was given in the training that was fed to the AI engine. They deleted the evidence. And who would say, no, that was fed? My son. because he was the one who's feeding the data.
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So if they silence him, there's no evidence of copyright violation.
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Yeah, one of the things is the gun. Mazerlin did not have any blood mark on it. When somebody shoots them, right? It is a contact wound. In case of contact wound, there should be blood mark on the gun. It's not there. And also the casing, the spent casing, spent cartridge was in the chamber. Was in the chamber. It never fall down.
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One of the hypothesis that could happen when someone is holding his hand. Again, it's not a theory. One of the possibilities is someone was holding his hand. They shot, they released it. So it didn't eject. They didn't release. They didn't pull it completely. When they didn't pull it completely, it didn't eject. That's a possibility since the GSR was found on both the hands.
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The only person in his life ever Suchir was not happy about was Sam Altman. So Suchir knew something.
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And why not the muzzle end of the gun doesn't have any blood on it? It should be there, right? If you find it disturbing as parents, like imagine what we went through and every day we are living this reality.
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Obviously it's an assault, right?
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They haven't even acknowledged it.
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it's at that moment i knew he was not an ordinary person and his contributions to this world would have been very very credible and i was always hoping that i will talk to people about my son's accomplishments i would be on tv because he becomes someone like sundar pichai or something but unfortunately he did become famous through a tragic death
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Rokhana was very sad and devastated to hear this. He said, you know, like I understand, it's very, we need to know the truth. And he said he will help me with the federal investigation. I can't help you with the state. And as per his staff guidance, we did put in a request, we did put in a complaint. We didn't hear back.
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So now that we have all these evidences, we want to follow through that again and try to see if we are heard this time.
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Around 1,000, maybe more than 1,000. They move to a newer space. Startups keep expanding every month. We don't have the count. And another thing is researchers, every researcher at OpenAI, they make statement that they're taking one year break and they're doing their own independent project.
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My suspicion is they're making them sign some kind of NDA to not work for anyone for a year to protect their own... That's illegal, right?
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But the problem in Silicon Valley is these tech companies, they do a lot of donations to politicians, their campaigns and their elections and all of them. So indirectly, they have a very good hold over the government. Even the news media hasn't picked it up. It's the same by us. Someone said Mark Zuckerberg, whatever he does, it comes out. And such a brutal death. Why is not out?
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Why no one is relaying?
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That would be Kash Patel, the director of FBI. That is the one who we want to talk to. He's bringing a lot of change. And we would also want to hear from Pam Bondi, Miss Pam Bondi. We would also want to hear from her.
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No, not yet.
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We don't have his email address. We don't have his phone number. But I've been tagging him in every tweet he does. I'm subscribing to it. Every tweet within one of the 60 messages I put, just this to switch here, Balaji.
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We know the truth already. We know what happened. We just want accountability. We want to know who did this and bring them to court. So since we're seeing the FBI director bringing radical changes in FBI, maybe we are seeking help from him and U.S. Attorney General, Ms. Ambondi.
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We don't want to talk anything about them. We just know the circumstantial corroboration and who could benefit from it kind of things. Other than that, we are not pointing fingers at anyone at this moment. And I also want to make very clear that we've seen a metal object. But there are some more facts to be verified about it. If it were a bullet, there should be additional spent casing.
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Did they remove it? What happened? How many bullets were fired from that gun? Unfortunately, police have already done ballistic testing. We lost that evidence. The only thing now we know is there was a metal piece. It's the same size as the thing. And we've seen the wounds in the mouth. What is this?
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It's hard to say, but whatever he was saying was against the entire AI industry's copyright issue, right? Whom do we point to?
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Retaliation for whistleblowing.
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The only person in his life ever Suchir was not happy about was Sam Altman. Since his childhood, he doesn't complain about teachers, friends, colleagues, no one. The only person in his life he writes negative. So Suchir knew something. As a mother, I can say he knew something more. He worked at 17, and his work relationship with colleagues was so good. How do we reach Kash Patel?
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He knew he was a threat. But if he were worried, he would take protection to prevent his life, right? I do see that on October 30th, I saw he was very scared.
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October 30th. 29th, he met a copyright attorney called Matthew Batary. We spoke to him on November 29th. And Matthew told us that Suchi said what OpenAI did to him. That's why we are holding on to them. And then... I'll meet with you and I'll share what I learned from your son. But he never met with us. That was next day Suchir came and talked to us. And when he came home, he was so scared.
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He hadn't slept all night. I watched him again. I did the FaceTime meeting. And November 7th, he came again. He was normal. So that particular day, did he receive any threat? I wanted to go back to drop Suchir. He didn't accept it. I said, I'll come meet you. No, I'll come home.
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Yeah, we first told, like, both of us first told, you should try Google. It's a very good company. But he always had his ways. Before he went to UC Berkeley, he worked in as a software engineer at 17. So he made his choices and he said he likes OpenAI and he enjoyed the people there. Next year, he took up internship in Scale.ai and then one more AI company.
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Yeah, he was worried on 30th. It was obviously seen. What did he learn from conversation with Matthew? That's where my mind goes. What did he learn from Matthew that made him worry? What truth did he learn?
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They won't talk to me. They didn't even talk to my attorney. Matthew didn't even talk to my attorney. He didn't talk to the PI. So he knows something.
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Honestly, we don't even have time to sit and grieve or cry. It's numbed. Emotions are numbed.
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Which is fighting.
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Thank you. And I also can write a complaint to the FBI director. Send it over to Tony. Can we send it out to one of his staff?
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Okay. We need to sign and send that, right?
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We'll do it today.
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Hopefully it will reach them.
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Can I say something? Recently, OpenAI tried to promote a bill. That bill says, because of NSA data, they want to make copyright doable. They don't want to oppose copyright, because OpenAI is using NSA data. So copyright is agreeable. Suchir protested copyright. Now they want to make copyright legal.
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There's one more in which they say they want to promote a bill. They're suggesting a bill. In that bill, they say we have NSA data and we want it to be copyright enabled because of that.
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We don't know how far this can go because who's behind it? We have no idea how deep this goes.
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Once he graduated, almost six months before graduation, he started working full time.
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Twitter is easiest.
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You know, we can allow what we can disallow depending on who reaches. I usually look for two, three messages and try to understand the psychology. We had some good experiences. We had some bad experiences.
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Yeah, an intern, he was with OpenAI. One of the internship in 2018 was with OpenAI.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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George Coleman, that was the boss. He wrote a very good tribute on Suchir. He attended his memorial service. And we've read Suchir's journals as well. In his journal, he writes he likes Ilya Sestako. He was the chief scientist. And he writes, if Ilya calls me, I would love to work with him.
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People who are suicidal, they become isolated. Everybody who he went with said he was happy. He didn't show any signs of depression. He was not withdrawn. I was always hoping that I will talk to people about my son's accomplishments. But unfortunately, he did become famous through a tragic death.
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Oh yeah, he writes he would work for Elon Musk. He writes he would really look forward to working with Elon or Ilya.
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Yeah.
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He was very humble. He never spoke anything big about himself. In fact, he won $100,000 award at the age of 18. We never knew about it. He was always very quiet. And when I probe, what are you working on? He said, like, it's coal, it's coal, and that's all. And then, I mean, I knew he was writing a science paper. I mean, research paper at OpenAI. I wanted him to share that with me. He said,
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He won't understand anything. He said that to you? He said that to me. But when I saw the WebGPT research paper, I knew it's going to be a big, big discovery. Because WebGPT is the basis of ChatGPT. When he wrote this, he was six months into his work. And he led the project, being a fresh graduate. Very soon, he became the welcoming mentor or onboarding mentor for the other colleagues.
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he was the go-to person for everyone people say like he had so much patience so much kindness and his ideas were so good he started working directly with the chief scientist at openai at openai okay so he he has a good relationship with the chief scientist with everyone he never had any uh argument within everyone liked him
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Yeah, he had his own startup plans before he quit OpenAI. In July, he had a plan to start a startup with respect to neuroscience and machine learning. He did check with his friend from UC Berkeley who studied together, will you join me?
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so he already knew he was not going to be depending on anyone's job he's going to create his own job and his company and telling the ethics will demonstrate his integrity that would only help him secure funds he said
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But the fact is, they have ignored there is one more door in the back and that doesn't have the camera. Anyone could come in easily.
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In July itself, while he was there. We don't know the activities in the company. But what we know is he reached out to New York Times. So my assumption here is if he resorted to reach out to New York Times, maybe his voice was not heard in the company. So he wanted to go out. And he didn't speak to them. but he did reach out in the end of July.
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His interview was sometime in the end of August, published October 2023.
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October 23rd.
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Yeah, he explains extremely well what exactly is a copyright violation and why it's a concern and about how these LLM models, like large models, AI models, why they are not really good. One of the major factors is the copyright law. That's what all these Hollywood actors, 400 of them, have signed against it. What they do is they have the AI engine. They feed the training data.
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To that engine, they put all the data for it to understand and learn. And that data comes from everywhere. It could be journal. It could be YouTube video. It could be any journals, any artist's work. When Google puts that in the page, they don't remove the copyright stuff. But what OpenAI does is it doesn't respect the copyright law.
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And also the most important declaration he makes is it changes the output. In his research paper, he also publishes mathematically why he believes it's a change of output. That means in a way, they're changing the work of the artist. And that's against the copyright law. And if anyone reads this article, he explains very clearly why it's a violation.
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Yes, we have the access, but OpenAI did not share that information. They say like there's no such email. And the fact here is New York Times labeled custodian witness, 10 of them on November 18th. And OpenAI denied every one of them. On 25th November, they said only Suchir Balaji can be the custodian witness because he was not there at that moment.
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That's very strange.