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Unfortunately, Axios did feel the need to rain on our parade this week by reporting that the corruption message isn't yet breaking through with key voters, according to some focus groups conducted by Polar Coaster guest Molly Murphy, a Democratic pollster at Impact Research.
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The gist is that while generic politicians are vulnerable to corruption critiques, Trump still has some, quote, inoculation on the issue because of, quote, Doge and his longstanding anti-DC rhetoric. the voters in the group also view Democrats as weak. What was your takeaway from that piece and those findings?
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I totally agree with the need for a reform agenda. I think we gotta stop testing messages in complete isolation here and not as part of a larger story. I think if you showed people clips of Trump talking about why he deserves the plane Along with clips where he's like, you don't need that many dolls. You don't need that many pencils. And inflation's great. Everything's down. Gas prices down.
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Everything's wonderful. I think telling a story about Donald Trump as corrupt, which I agree most people know he's corrupt or assume he's corrupt because most people think most politicians are corrupt. But talking about his corruption in the context of how out of touch he is with the concerns of the people he said he was going to fight for, I think is much more damning.
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And I think you want to tell a story about a bunch of people who are running the government to enrich themselves while everyone else gets fucked over. And like people have to...
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As sad as it is, I think some people are willing to let it fly that some government officials are going to get rich based on their positions, so long as they're also doing work to help people, you know, afford their groceries. And if they don't see that. So I do agree with you.
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Like if it's just tariffs or it's just reform, like I don't think I don't think just spitting out a list of messages that test well is going to work. I think you have to tell a story about Donald Trump. And then, like you said, Democrats have to tell a story about like what they would do differently, not just on economic policy, but also on making sure that government's not corrupt.
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I think it's a challenge for some of these Democrats. But I like I don't know how hard it is to like go out and give us. You don't have to give a long speech. You can do like a two minute video on that. I just think that we are that it's people are so caught up in what is the corruption message and what's the right line that tests well. And yeah, talk about what's happening.
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Just talk about what's happening and how fucked up it is.
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Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau. I'm Dan Pfeiffer. We'll dive into how the justices reacted. And then later, you'll hear my conversation with our pal Beto O'Rourke, who stopped by the studio here in Los Angeles to talk about Texas politics, the Democratic Party, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and lots more. It's great to see Beto.
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I still think there's a place for speeches because I think there's a place for storytelling because I think storytelling works better than anything.
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Great. Yes. Perfect. All right. Well, I look forward to it. So, yeah, I do think Trump's orgy of corruption might look even worse to all the voters he's about to fuck over with his big, beautiful tax cut for the rich, which will cause millions of people to lose their health care while somehow still adding trillions of dollars to the deficit.
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Here's where things stand on the bill in the House right now. We are, of course, recording this Thursday afternoon.
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We got Medicaid cuts that will lead to at least 8 million people losing their coverage, millions of others who will pay a lot more for their health care, higher co-pays, work requirements for people who are either already working or people who have disabilities or caring for children or students so they can't work.
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They've also included a massive cut to food assistance that gives low-income Americans, mostly children, about six bucks a day so they don't go hungry. That's where they decided to get $300 million of savings from that. They want to defund Planned Parenthood and repeal most of the clean energy tax credits that Biden passed.
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And all of this is so that people making over $1 million can get an average tax cut of $90,000 so that business owners who make over $10 million a year can take a million dollar tax deduction on average. And so that wealthy couples worth over $30 million can pass on a tax-free inheritance.
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Because if you can't give your kids $40 million inheritance without some taxes on it, what are you even doing? Why are you giving them anything? Isn't this America? You should be able to 35 million, 40 million, 45 million. You should pass on that to your kids tax free, no taxes on it because those kids deserve as much money as they could possibly have. $40 million tax free. Un-fucking-real.
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And the size of these tax cuts and just how they're showering the just ultra mega rich with more money is partly why, even with all those cuts to people's health care, to food assistance, to everything else. the bill is still going to add a few trillion dollars to the deficit.
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And perversely, that's why some Republicans in Congress are threatening to tank the bill because it is adding too much to the deficit because it's not cutting enough. So that's what's happening right now. It's disgusting. It's infuriating. It's also somehow not extreme enough for these Republicans. The last I checked,
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Mike Johnson had a big meeting today with the warring factions of the Republican Congress. You had the hardliners, who it's not going far enough. The moderates, who have already taken some votes that people in their districts might not be so happy about. You have the SALT caucus. I don't even know if we want to get into SALT. The SALTies? The SALTies, that's what they're called.
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These are the people very concerned about the state and local deduction for their taxes, which Trump put a cap on. And now they want to remove the cap because it hits people in blue states the hardest. But of course, the people in the salty caucus for Republicans are the Republican House members who do represent blue states. There may be another warring faction that I can't think of right now.
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But apparently people left the meeting and they were Members were texting Jake Sherman. We're fucked. I think they said we're cooked. We're cooked. And they might delay the vote now. But, you know, by the time you're hearing this Friday morning or Friday afternoon, it could all change. So I'm just telling you where we are right now.
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Dan, what do you think about the politics driving this negotiation right now?
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And I do think it was – I think what's happening just with polarization in general and the fact that no one can pass anything with the filibuster anymore and so everyone needs to pass these – basically, Democratic administrations get one reconciliation bill to jam all their priorities in. And with the Democrats, it had been built up over four years that we had a lot of different priorities.
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Yeah. He's giving a commencement at USC Law School tomorrow. So he stopped by here to say hi, which is great. But first... The president is still fluffing Arab dictators for cash and bribes. Just wrapping up a tour of the Gulf states that blended jaw-dropping corruption with the side of foreign policy.
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And I guess I would argue that having so many priorities is one of the reasons it was – It was such a long, drawn-out process on Build Back Better because it's like when Joe Manchin said, oh, you have to cut some spending. Do you want to cut it from the child care tax credit? Do you want to do climate? Do you want to do this?
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And they ended up with prioritizing climate and drug prices and infrastructure, I guess.
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So you mentioned the members, the Republican members who are concerned about their political careers and the races that they have to run in 2026. A lot of those Republicans have already taken votes to deeply cut Medicaid. And I think It would be good if people kept up the pressure on these members.
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These are people like Marionette Miller-Meeks from Iowa City, who won by less than 1,000 votes last year. Gabe Evans from the Denver suburbs, who won by just more than 2,000 votes. There's plenty of other members like that who are sitting in seats where they only won by a couple thousand votes, either there in districts where Kamala Harris won or districts that Trump won by not that much.
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And so, you know, if you want to call, if you're in these districts or you want to put pressure on these folks, you can head to votesaveamerica.com and they'll make it really easy for you. Anything else you think people can do, Dan?
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Trump not only declined to address the fact that his petro-fascist sugar daddies in Saudi Arabia and Qatar have funded terrorist groups, murdered journalists, and brutally repressed women and gays. He showered them with the kind of praise he rarely gives anyone but himself. Let's listen.
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One of the reasons that apparently Trump backed off a little bit on the tariffs is that Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, and Scott Besant, the treasury secretary, told him that it was going to really hit the Trump base hard. The working class, blue-collar Trump base is getting hurt by these tariffs.
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And then we saw the news today that even though Trump has backed off a little, maybe not enough because Walmart, the Walmart CEO got on an earnings call Thursday and said that they're probably going to raise prices because of what the tariffs have done already. What did you make of that post story?
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I also think there's a good chance that all the people around Donald Trump are telling him, oh, no, people aren't going to lose their health insurance because of what we're doing in Medicare. We're just doing some work requirements and making sure that there's no fraud and abuse. MAGA voters work.
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Yeah, this is crazy. The 47% are on the other side. This is just Democrats and the commie CBO, the radical Marxist CBO just lying about all this.
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Right. Woke Walmart. Right. Which is why I do think like, you know, then you've got some parts of some wing of the party now, the so-called populist wing of the party, you know, the Josh Hawleys and even the Steve Bannons and those kind of people who are like, no, no, no, we just shouldn't cut Medicaid. And this is cutting Medicaid.
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I think those lifting those voices up is important, just at least on this issue. And then just making a lot of noise that this is going to lead to a lot of people losing their health care so that it is loud enough that it gets through to Republicans and maybe to Trump. And, you know, they pair it back because.
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It's going to be, I mean, the CBO, I think, when they tried to, when Trump in 2017 tried to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I think they said like 17 million people would lose their health insurance.
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This is like, you know, you have the 9 million for Medicaid, 8.6 million for Medicaid, and then you have another 4 or 5 million because they don't want to renew the subsidies that people get to help buy insurance on the exchanges for the Affordable Care Act.
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You also have a bunch of other people who are on Medicare and Medicaid and might lose Medicaid, even though Medicaid fills in gaps in Medicare insurance for low-income seniors. And those people won't be counted as losing their health care, but they may lose their health care because it's really important that they have Medicaid fill in those gaps.
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So it's just it's a ton of pain that could follow from this. And the bill probably will get worse if they if they end up passing it, because they're already saying like the work requirements wouldn't kick in until 2029 or something. And I think Steve Scalise was like, oh, no, no, we're going to rewrite the bill so that they're earlier to try to get some of the hardliners on board.
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So as they try to get these hardliners to vote, yes, the bill is only going to get worse and hurt more people.
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Last thing on the agenda here, big case before the Supreme Court on Thursday. The justices heard oral arguments on two really big intertwined questions. The first is whether Donald Trump's day one executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship is constitutional.
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And the second stemming from the circumstances around that is whether federal judges below the Supreme Court can issue nationwide injunctions. That is whether a single federal judge can freeze a given policy from the administration across the country, which is what happened after the birthright citizenship EO was signed.
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It would be pretty surprising if the court didn't uphold birthright citizenship in the end since it's spelled out clearly in the 14th Amendment. And it didn't seem like any justices at least were openly entertaining ending birthright citizenship based on that EO. But of course, we don't know. Some could just be quiet.
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They didn't really talk about the case on the merits, the birthright citizenship on the merits all that much. During the oral arguments, they spent most of the time on the argument over nationwide injunctions. That said, it did seem clear that Solicitor General John Sauer didn't have great answers on some of the big questions about birthright citizenship and injunctions. Let's listen.
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So that was Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, two justices nominated by Donald J. Trump. What did you make of the arguments and how the justices responded?
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What they call perfecto. He likes MBS, the guy who ordered a journalist murdered with a bone saw, Jamal Khashoggi. He likes him too much, Dan. Too much. It's kind of getting steamy in there. A little awkward. A little awkward. How inspired are you by Trump's loyalty to American values, liberal values around the world?
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Yeah, I think the most simplistic way to think about it is you're trying to balance out the threat of a rogue president with the threat of a rogue judge. And you always want to put the shoe on the other foot, right?
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And imagine if it's a Democratic president and like you said, you know, conservative activists go forum shopping, find some crazy right wing Trumpy judge, blocks a Democratic president's policy. And now it's blocked across the country. And now we have to wait for the Supreme Court. And then but then there's a problem that, you know.
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If you have an out-of-control president like Donald Trump who wants to just smash the Constitution and break laws and a judge is trying to stop them, then you're going to have to wait and say, no, no, you can't have a nationwide injunction. This crazy policy is going to go through while we wait for this issue to go through all the courts, right? So it is a tough challenge, I think.
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All right. When we come back, you'll hear my interview with Beto O'Rourke about the long game in Texas and whether he's jumping back into politics there. Before we do that, I just interviewed Hassan Piker this week about getting detained and questioned by Trump's CPB agents in Chicago and Trump's general crackdown on free speech. It's a great interview. Horrifying, but also great.
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I know that personally, you just love being around people. It gives you energy. It inspires you. What was the genesis of the idea to get back out there again? And what are you hoping that these town halls can do for people and just do for this moment?
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What are the issues that come up in these town halls from people? What are like the most common issues? And what issues come up that are missing from the national debate that we're not talking about enough?
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How are you feeling about this constitutional crisis that we seem to find ourselves in right now?
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Especially wealthy autocrats who can shower him with not just praise, but planes, money, business deals for his family. I mean, you know, maybe Brussels should have given Donald Trump a new jet. And we'd have better relations with the European Union. Maybe the Canadians should have thrown in some Trump towers and Trump golf courses, and he wouldn't be threatening to annex them as the 51st state.
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And so- And Lyndon Johnson adopts We Shall Overcome and says it for the first time, which came up from the civil rights movement.
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Yeah. And I think what makes it so much more difficult in 2025 is, well, there's a lot of factors, but I do think that the media environment and the information environment, just beyond the media environment, is so much different. I think a lot about the civil rights movement. and even that moment.
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And, you know, when John Lewis was on that bridge and was beaten within an inch of his life, that led the news on the three major channels that millions and millions and millions of Americans watched. We all watched the same thing. We had to pick between three channels, and it went to most of the country. And I don't know of anything now
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That breaks through good news or bad news, politics or not, to the entire country of moments like the Super Bowl. Like we just don't have these these moments anymore. And so, you know, public opinion, while it's turned against Trump, you know, I keep thinking about 2024 and everyone who paid attention to the news. voted for Kamala Harris.
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And people who got their news from social media, Donald Trump won them by a bit. And then people who didn't get any news at all, who don't pay attention much to the news, he won them by a lot.
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And I wonder how we break through to people in the same way, who might feel the same way we do if they learn about what's happening, but either because they're exhausted or because everything seems too bleak or or just because they're living busy lives, are not closely paying attention to what's happening.
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You know, this is how he operates. You give him praise, you give him money, you give him gifts, and he's going to treat you and your country well. He's going to make sure that the policy of the United States is favorable to your government so long as... You take care of Trump.
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Oftentimes it is a false choice on the ideological spectrum, just partly because voters have, as you know, very complicated views and they can hold a view on one issue that's quite liberal and quite progressive and a view on another issue that's conservative. Obviously, we can't.
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take power especially in the senate without winning states like texas i mean i think to win the senate in 26 maine north carolina ohio texas like we need to win a lot of really tough states yeah and you know part of it is showing up part of it is and people in the party will make this argument especially people who look at the data who've run these races who've talked to these voters that
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Democrats have positions as a national party that don't always line up with voters in some of these redder states. And the question is, do you moderate your views? Do you say, no, these are my views and you don't have to agree with me on everything, but maybe we agree on this.
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Like, how do you navigate the fact that there just really are right of center voters on a whole host of issues in some of these states that we absolutely have to win to take back power?
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Yes, that's why Kim Jong-un he praises, Duterte in the Philippines, Bolsonaro, Putin, like just name your autocrat. So hanging over all this, of course, is the issue of the jet, which is such an obvious grift that more MAGA types are breaking with Trump on it. We talked about Laura Loomer on Tuesday's pod. She is now the conscience of MAGA.
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What could elected Democrats be doing better right now, either in Congress or in the states?
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A lot of reading the stage directions from Democrats.
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I don't know if you've come across any of the excerpts from Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson's new book, Original Sin, which is about Biden, his decision to run again, sort of decline and age-related issues. I'm thinking about it because you were just mentioning, you know, Democrats have to listen to people.
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And clearly, the Biden folks were not listening to a whole bunch of voters, not just Democratic voters, but voters all across the country for a long time who didn't want him to run. And then, you know, post debate, trying to tell people that what they were seeing with their eyes wasn't real.
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To what extent do you think Democratic politicians and party officials have a credibility issue to fix with voters due in part to everything that went on in 24? Yeah.
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But there has also been criticism from your Ben Shapiro's, your Mark Levin's, your Eric Erickson's. There's also a growing number of Republicans in Congress who are saying they want to look into the details before letting this deal happen. Unclear what that entails.
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You know, you're like, oh, this person's on the Armed Services Committee. I'm like, okay, so what is it? Is it legislation that's going to come up before them? Are they going to block a funding bill because of the jet? We'll see. But none of that criticism is stopping the most committed cult members from doing their thing. Let's listen.
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Yeah, and you know, whenever we talk about it now, people are like, Oh, wait, are you still picking on Joe Biden? And let's just move forward. And you see a lot of Democratic politicians are like, let's move forward. It's not only about Biden. I do think our party, you know, we just talked about how reading polls too closely is bad. You get poll tested messages and all that shit.
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But knowing where the public is. And trying to at least meet them where they are on issues I do think is important. I think is an issue that our party has had over the last several years. And it's not just with Biden's age. It was like, hey, the economy is great and look at all the statistics and people are feeling the price increases.
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And you've lived this being on the border, which is like, oh, immigration is just an issue that Trump uses to win elections and that people couldn't possibly be upset by, you know, more migrants coming over the border than any time before. Right.
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Look, you can imagine that people are still want to be generous and want to have more immigration in this country, but are worried that when you have, you know, so many migrants coming across the border in a community and it's stretching the public services in that community, that people are going to be upset by that.
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And I just think that we have to do a better job like really finding out where people are and even if we disagree with their policy solutions or we disagree with their positions, like figuring out a way to make sure that they feel seen and heard.
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In Texas, you mentioned your 2018 race. You came so close from 2018 to 2024. The state seemed like it moved to the right. It seemed like it was moving to the left and then it moved back to the right. Where do you think the situation stands right now? And how big of a reach do you think the Senate race is in 2026 for Democrats?
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What are the chances that the nominee against Ken Paxton or John Cornyn is you?
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What's the most important lesson you've learned from running all those races in Texas that maybe surprised you that you didn't think about before?
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I mean, maybe the most honest answer there from our pal, Jesse Waters. Your pal, Jesse Waters.
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Beto, as always, your energy and optimism is infectious. I am so grateful that you're out there doing the hard work of registering voters and going to all those town halls. Wish there were more Bettos and more states. Thanks for stopping by. It's great talking to you. Thank you. That's our show for today. Thanks to Beto for coming in.
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My good friend, Jesse Waters. Before that, that was Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen making the apt comparison to the gift we received from France of the Statue of Liberty, which of course, after receiving the gift and after leaving office, Grover Cleveland just flew it all around the world. Yes, yes, a personal gift.
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That's how you see the Statue of Liberty. People don't know this about the Statue of Liberty, but it actually belongs to the Grover Cleveland Presidential Foundation.
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There are Donald Trump scandals and crises that Republicans are just willing to defend from the jump. There's a small sliver of Donald Trump scandals like this one that they're not willing to defend from the jump. But all of them are willing to just wait it out knowing that our memories are almost – that every day is memento for the American people.
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We just wake up forgetting anything that happened, never mind the last year, two years, basically in the last news cycle. And if you just wait long enough, it's going to sound ridiculous to bring up the jet three months from now when there's so much other business to go on. We're just looking forward. We're just doing other stuff now.
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How about, I guess, 50 First Dates is also in that category.
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Wow. See, I don't even remember that. I love the movie. Anyway, yeah, you had other comments.
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I mean, they are, you know, look, between Jesse Watters and Mike Johnson there, they're coalescing around an argument that corruption is a virtue. for this president and for America. This is a new America now, right? You can storm the Capitol. You can try to steal an election. You can lock people up without due process.
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And you can slap a bunch of tariffs on people because you want to run world trade, because you want everyone to come to you and make some deals. You can accept planes. And as long as it's out in the open, what are you going to do about it, Democrats? Oh, you're going to impeach them? Then what's going to happen?
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I mean, this is like they are making the argument for a system that is very much not democracy. They're not just saying, oh, no, no, no, this is a democracy. They're just like, no, no, no, this whole system where there's laws and due process and ethics for people in power. No, forget that. This is much better.
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Yeah, the Supreme Court and the Republican Congress has given him immunity, and that just leaves the voters to vote out Republicans and MAGA Republicans particularly from now until, I don't know when, 26, 28 and beyond, until we get them all out of office.
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We're still doing it. Yeah, right. Did you see that Kristi Noem wants a new jet too, by the way? Washington Post says the DHS is going to use $50 million from the Coast Guard budget to get her a brand spanking new Gulfstream 5 to help her fly between those photo ops in Seacott and wherever else we're sending people in style.
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She's got fatigues. She's got to do hair and makeup on the way.
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She's got to get a machine gun. There's a lot going on. You can't take that through TSA.
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Then there's the fact that Elon and Doge have cut about 400 jobs from the Federal Aviation Administration, only to have Elon tweet on Thursday, quote, there is a shortage of top-notch air traffic controllers. If you have retired but are open to returning to work, please consider doing so. Is that where we're recruiting now, air traffic controllers? On Twitter. On Twitter?
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Yeah, that's where we are.