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EP. 190: CALIFORNIA - Hollywood Celebrity Turned Ruthless Killer: The Tragic Tale of Johnny Lewis
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EP. 190: CALIFORNIA - Hollywood Celebrity Turned Ruthless Killer: The Tragic Tale of Johnny Lewis
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EP. 190: CALIFORNIA - Hollywood Celebrity Turned Ruthless Killer: The Tragic Tale of Johnny Lewis
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EP. 190: CALIFORNIA - Hollywood Celebrity Turned Ruthless Killer: The Tragic Tale of Johnny Lewis
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EP. 190: CALIFORNIA - Hollywood Celebrity Turned Ruthless Killer: The Tragic Tale of Johnny Lewis
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EP. 190: CALIFORNIA - Hollywood Celebrity Turned Ruthless Killer: The Tragic Tale of Johnny Lewis
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EP. 190: CALIFORNIA - Hollywood Celebrity Turned Ruthless Killer: The Tragic Tale of Johnny Lewis
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EP. 198: ARIZONA - The Murder of Emily Pike
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EP. 198: ARIZONA - The Murder of Emily Pike
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
And Vanessa's family weren't the only ones who noticed this change in her. Back at Fort Hood, Vanessa had this restaurant that she would frequent. And one of the employees said that anytime she came in, she would always smile, greet them, and ask how they were doing. But not on this day. On April 15th, the employee said that Vanessa came in and it was obvious something was on her mind.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
She was very despondent. She looked tired. And instead of engaging with them like she usually did, she simply paid for her food and left. The stress of Fort Hood was clearly taking a toll on her. Now, the next time she saw her family was April 17th, 2020. And luckily, Vanessa seemed to have been doing a little bit better.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
At the time, the entire world was shut down from COVID-19, so they were all able to spend some good quality time together. Her family said that she was happy, animated, and she talked about how excited she was to marry her fiancé Juan. That weekend, Vanessa even convinced Juan to get her on her shoulders while she did some squats, showing off the strength she had gained in the army.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
everyone was laughing and having a good time which was much needed the last few months had been really heavy but her family was happy to see her smiling again on the morning of april 20th 2020 vanessa woke up early kissed her fiance goodbye told her family she loved them and then she walked out the door to head back to fort hood but unbeknownst to everybody it was the last time they would ever see vanessa alive which brings us to april 22nd 2020.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
The supervisor then texted Vanessa's roommate to see if she knew where she was, but she hadn't seen her since Vanessa had left that morning. Now, there weren't huge alarm bells going off at this point. Sure, it was strange that Vanessa just left in the middle of the day, but everyone assumed she would show back up. However, by 4pm, Vanessa missed another check-in on the base.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
She had now been gone for almost six hours, and no one had heard from her. But still, no one was really looking. And it wasn't just the Army who had been trying to get in touch with her. She and her fiancé, Juan, spoke on the phone every single day at noon. But when he called her that day, she didn't answer. Her family had been texting Vanessa that afternoon as well, but got no response.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
And unlike the Army, they were very concerned. Vanessa was always good about texting her loved ones back. And even more concerning was that eventually, their messages weren't even going through, meaning that Vanessa's phone had been turned off.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Interestingly, around the time she stopped responding to people, Vanessa's dad said that he was at work when he started experiencing this horrible chest pain. It was so bad, he actually left work early. At the time, he didn't understand what was happening, but his family would soon find out that Vanessa was missing. Before even knowing it, her father must have sensed that something was wrong.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
And almost immediately, the Guillen family knew that there was a secretive wall that army officials were putting up. They wanted to know all the details, like who was Vanessa working with that day? What soldiers did she speak to that morning? But the investigators weren't very forthcoming with any of that information.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Her family also felt like they weren't as concerned about Vanessa's disappearance as they should have been. They didn't even really start looking for Vanessa until her family arrived and started demanding answers. And as we all know, the first 24 hours of someone's disappearance is, by far, the most important. So they were already running behind.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Now, the people in charge of this investigation were the CID, which is the United States Army's Criminal Investigation Division. And unfortunately, most of the people who worked for CID at the time did not have a lot of experience. They were also understaffed, with a lot on their plates.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
The Guillen family was not happy with how the investigation was going, so after filing a missing persons report with local law enforcement, They took matters into their own hands. They posted flyers with Vanessa's picture all over Colleen. Her sister Myra even posted the picture to social media with a caption that read, I promise I'm going to find you, even if it's the last thing I do.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
I ask you guys for prayers for my sister. If anyone has seen her, please let me know. Please Twitter do your thing. Sadly, because this was in the middle of the pandemic, her posts didn't get a lot of attention.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
On Friday, April 24th, the Belton Police Department, Texas Department of Public Safety, Belton Fire Department, and military investigators with the CID searched the surrounding areas of Fort Hood for any evidence of Vanessa Guillen. They also posted a news release asking the public for their help in the search for Vanessa. The news release stated that Vanessa was last seen on April 22nd at 1 p.m.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
in the parking lot of her regimental engineer squadron headquarters. They also issued a be on the lookout or BOLO alert and description of Vanessa that stated, five feet, two inches tall, 126 pounds, black hair and brown eyes. That day, thousands of people searched the barracks, training areas, buildings, and the trails and lakes that surrounded Fort Hood, but their search came up empty.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Eventually, a whole week had passed and there was still no sign of her. By then, her loved ones were doing everything in their power to help bring attention to Vanessa's case. A Facebook page was made titled, Find Vanessa Guillen. Hundreds of her friends and family members stood on the sides of the roads in Killeen holding up posters chanting, Where is Vanessa? They even put up a $15,000 reward.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
And slowly but surely, the media started picking up on her story. Hey, everybody. If you're listening and you're loving what we're doing here, share us on your Instagram story, shout us out on X, post one of our shows on your Facebook, and let the world, your friends, your family know that you're listening to Murder in America. It seriously helps us so much, helps us grow the show.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Vanessa Guillen was born on September 30, 1999, at the Bentob Hospital in Houston, Texas. Her parents, Rogelio and Gloria, had moved here from Zacatecas State in Mexico, shortly after they got married. They wanted a better life, more opportunities. so they settled down in Houston and started their family.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Vanessa's family wanted Fort Hood to know that they weren't going to back down until Vanessa was found, but they couldn't do it on their own. They were up against the U.S. Army, a very powerful force. And for weeks, there hadn't been great communication between Vanessa's loved ones and investigators.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
The Guillens felt like they had been left in the dark, so they needed people on their side, with power as well. Eventually, the Guillens started working with a military attorney, Natalie Kawam. Natalie was skilled when it came to military lingo and how they operated. and she agreed to work the case pro bono.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
The Guillens also got connected with Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia, and she promised to get them a meeting with the CID so that they could try and get some answers about the investigation.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Soon enough, the hashtag FindVanessaGeehan started trending on social media. Vanessa's case was gaining national attention. Celebrity Salma Hayek even used her platform to post a photograph of Vanessa and wrote, Vanessa and Gloria, I believe you and I pledge to put Vanessa's photo on my stories every day until she is found. Houston rapper Baby Bash also raised awareness on his social media pages.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Rogelio had been working since his childhood in Mexico, quickly found a job as a machine operator, and Gloria was a stay-at-home mom to their six children, Mayra, Yovana, Guadalupe, Manuel de Jesus, Roger, and Vanessa. The Guillen family were Catholics, so they grew up going to church, and they were all baptized as children. Throughout their whole life, they always turned to God in their struggles.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
and they also turned to each other. The Giants were a tight-knit bunch. Vanessa's childhood was spent running around having fun with her siblings, and according to everyone that knew her, Vanessa loved to run. There was just something about being outside, feeling your heart rate rise as you jogged for miles and miles. Vanessa loved it, which eventually led her to another passion,
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Now, McQueen was sentenced to two years in prison for this, but there are many soldiers who served at Fort Hood whose sexual assault was completely swept under the rug.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Just recently, in 2022, 21-year-old Private Ana Basaldua made two sexual harassment complaints against two soldiers at Fort Hood, but instead of taking action, they simply transferred her to another platoon, and one of the men who sexually assaulted her was promoted in rank. There were absolutely no consequences. Sadly, the following year, Private Ana Basildua was found dead in a supposed suicide.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
This week on our Patreon, the bonus episode is diving deep into all of the deaths, all of the suicides, all of the mysterious, you know, murders and events that have occurred on Fort Hood's campus over the years. And you're going to be absolutely shocked at what you hear. Fort Hood has the most suicides of any American base. There have been so many mysterious deaths at Fort Hood.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
So many things that have happened that people don't talk about enough. And some of these deaths are just outright bizarre. Soldiers that supposedly committed suicide that were found with 32 stab wounds and no knife near their body. I mean, it's really, really bizarre. But interestingly, after all of the protests, Fort Hood officials stayed quiet. The entire world was looking at them to respond.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
And finally, on June 22nd, they would. Scott Eflant, the commander at the base, spoke publicly for the first time.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
At this press conference, reporters confront officials about Vanessa's sexual harassment claims, asking if they had taken any action against the superiors who followed her into the shower. And surprisingly, Army officials claimed there wasn't even evidence those sexual harassment claims were true.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Soccer Vanessa started playing soccer when she was just 11 years old. And from the start, she proved herself to be a talented athlete. But not just on the field. As Vanessa grew older, she loved any and all physical activity. And she was strong. Her brothers would later say that they would sometimes wrestle her, and even though they were much bigger, she knew how to defend herself.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Vanessa's mother Gloria also spoke with the media, and in a heartfelt plea she stated that she wanted the base shut down and she wanted a full investigation into the disappearance of her daughter. She stated that she wanted every room, every barrack, every office of Fort Hood searched.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
She compared the Fort Hood news conference to a show that they were putting on to appease the people, but that no one had respected her or Vanessa to conduct a fair and thorough investigation. Vanessa, she continued, joined the army to defend her country and protect United States citizens. It had been her dream since she was 10 years old, despite the wishes of her family.
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She demanded justice for Vanessa and wanted the people involved to be caught and punished, including all the higher-ups. She continued by saying that Vanessa went to the armory that morning alive. and if she wasn't found alive, then she believed that the entire base should be shut down because of its corruption.
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Fort Hood was known as the Great Place, and Gloria asked, what, a great place to be kidnapped, raped, or killed?
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Once she started high school, at Cesar E. Chavez High, Vanessa also began lifting weights. She ran track and cross country, and she joined their soccer team, proudly wearing the number 20 on the field.
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There isn't a ton of information out there about him. Courtney and I have found in our line of work that looking up the background of soldiers in the military is a lot harder than finding information about everyday civilians. But what we do know about Robinson is that he was born and raised in Calumet City, Illinois.
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went to thornton fractional north high school where he played football and after graduation he decided to join the army in october of 2017. robinson was actually deployed to iraq for seven months and he trained as a 12b combat engineer now at the time of our story he was 20 years old and he was back in the united states working at fort hood as an e4 specialist he and vanessa worked in the same field as military engineers but he was one rank higher than her and like we mentioned he
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
One of her best friends, Frida Hernandez Lopez, said that Vanessa always tested herself physically to see how far she could go, and even after intense soccer practices, she would go lift weights in the school gym. Now, outside of athletics, Vanessa was also very sociable and well-liked by her peers.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
He had that girlfriend named Cecily Aguilar, but their love story was pretty controversial.
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Now, like Erin Robinson, there isn't a ton of information out there about Cecily. We do know that she grew up in Jackson, Michigan, and that she had a pretty tough life. At just 12 years old, Cecily was put into foster care, and by 16, she had run away and was living on her own. Eventually, she would move to Texas, meet Keon Aguilar, and get married.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
But like we mentioned, they separated and she started dating her husband's friend, Erin Robinson.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
She had a really great group of friends who all said that she was friendly, confident, fun, and easy to get along with. but she never let her social life get in the way of her success. Vanessa was very smart and studious. During lunch, instead of hanging out with her friends, she would often sit alone, with her headphones in, catching up on schoolwork.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Soon enough, word was spreading quickly around Colleen that a set of human remains had been found. But before the news could get to Vanessa's family, investigators called them to let them know that it likely wasn't Vanessa. And they were right. After taking the body to the medical examiner, they learned that the remains belonged to 23-year-old private Gregory Weddle Morales.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Now, Gregory was originally from Oklahoma. He was described as carefree, fun, and loving. Here's his mother talking about him.
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Now, right after Greg graduated from high school, he enlisted. At 21 years old, Greg got married to a woman named Penny Morales, and he actually took her last name. He also took on the role of becoming a father. Penny already had two children of her own when the two got married, and Gregory treated her kids as if they were his own.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
But at that time, he was stationed in Fort Hood working as a motor transport operator with the 1st Cavalry Division Sustainment Brigade. However, he was working towards leaving the army. In fact, Gregory was just days away from being discharged when he suddenly vanished.
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He was last seen driving his 2018 black Kia Rio around Killeen, and the last person he spoke to was his wife on August 20th, 2019. But after that, no one heard from him again.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
And surprisingly, Gregory and Vanessa's cases weren't the only ones that the CID had been dealing with at the time. In fact, the day after Vanessa was reported missing, 21-year-old Private Gavin Chambers passed away on base. A few days later, on April 29th, 19-year-old Private Joshua Barnwell also passed away.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
Then, on May 16th, 37-year-old Sergeant Brad Reynolds died by suicide, and on May 18th, Private First Class Brandon Rosecrann was found shot to death nearly three miles away from his burning Jeep in a suburb of Fort Hood. There were four deaths at Fort Hood in a matter of weeks, and in the months that followed, there would be two more suicides.
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Then they found Gregory's body, who had also been murdered. So, as you can see, Fort Hood was an extremely dark place at the time. A place filled with death, assaults, suicides, and mysteries. And as you're going to hear in the bonus episode if you're with us on Patreon, this pattern of darkness. Fort Hood already had a legacy of darkness.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
There are so many things wrong with the history of Fort Hood that we're going to explore. There just seemed to be a dark energy about the place.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
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Interestingly, about 300 feet away, a canine alerted to the scent of human remains near the water, but once again, they didn't find anything. By this point, the reward for information in Vanessa's disappearance had reached $50,000. It was offered up by the League of United Latin American Citizens, who had heard the Guillen family's pleas and wanted to help.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
But surprisingly, despite their searches around the Leon River, they still hadn't found her. However, Tim Miller with the Texas EquiSearch was certain that she was out there. And he was right.
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EP. 189: TEXAS - The Murder of Vanessa Guillén: A Complete Failure At Ft. Hood
As word spread around Colleen that human remains had been discovered, reporters rushed to the scene. And this time, everyone knew deep down that it was her. Vanessa's family had no idea what was going on at the time, but her sister Myra said that she suddenly received a call from her aunt asking if she had seen the news. Seconds later, she said she received a call from Tim Miller.
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Now, although forensic testing had not been conducted, Tim was positive the body belonged to Vanessa. He told her, We found her. From there, the phone went silent. Myra would later say that she wanted to scream, but she didn't. She didn't want her mother to see her react that way. So, she kept her composure, thanked Tim for his phone call, and hung up.
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From there, she had the grueling task of telling her parents that their worst fears had come true. Her mother, Gloria, would later say, I went crazy at that moment. I went crazy because of the pain. She did not want to believe that her daughter's murdered body had been found. Throughout the entire time, they had always held on to hope that she would be found alive.
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And although there was a sort of peace knowing that she was no longer missing, the idea that someone had hurt her, had dismembered her, was unbearable.
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If you love Murder in America, you love mysteries, you love true crime, you love murder stories and the unknown, then I have a new show for you. It's called The Conspiracy Files, and it's hosted by me, Colin Brown, from Murder in America and The Paranormal Files. On The Conspiracy Files, we explore everything from bizarre deaths to freak paranormal events
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pedophile rings, government corruption, ritual sacrifice. No topic is untouched on this show. Everything that we talk about on The Conspiracy Files is backed up with fact. I release reference sheets with every single episode that we do so you guys know everything we're talking about is confirmed to have happened and be real.
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It's a completely different type of show than anything else you've ever seen about conspiracy theories. Instead of a bunch of conjecture and theories, we're presenting you people with facts, telling you the story, walking you through the story just as detailed as we do with Murder in America, and then letting the listener decide what they think. Anyways, you should definitely give it a listen.
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It's called The Conspiracy Files. The links are in the description of this show, and you can find it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And now let's get back to our story. Interestingly, Cecily also tried to claim that she had to help get rid of Vanessa's body.
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She even said that on the way over to the Leon River, Robinson held a gun to her head and threatened her, if she didn't help him. Which again, is a story that no one believes. Cecily also told investigators that Robinson was never once violent with her before this.
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but he was prone to bad moods now clearly detectives do not believe this story that she was forced to help dismember vanessa's body in reality she loved robinson and she likely didn't want him to get in trouble but now that vanessa's body was found cecily is in trouble and detectives actually convinced her to help them get a confession out of aaron robinson so while she was at the police station they asked her to call him
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Now, Robinson had no idea that Cecily was being questioned by the police at the time, so when he saw her phone call, he answered and immediately said, Baby, they found pieces. Over the next few minutes, Cecily tried to talk about the crime, thinking that maybe Robinson would say something incriminating, but unfortunately, he didn't. He also didn't deny anything she was saying.
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However, it was very obvious that he was very worried that they had found Vanessa's body. During the phone call, he even sends her links to the new footage of the body being found.
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As you can imagine, when word got out that Robinson had killed himself, the Guillen family was devastated. His death meant that they couldn't have their day in court with their daughter's killer. They couldn't learn the truth as to why he killed Vanessa that day. Now, all they could rely on was Cecily's confession, which clearly wasn't 100% truthful. The day after Aaron Robinson ended his life,
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Cecily Aguilar was placed under arrest and charged with 11 counts, including one count of conspiracy to tamper with documents or proceedings, two counts of tampering with documents or proceedings, three counts of accessory after the fact, one count of destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in a federal investigation, and four counts of false statement or representation.
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Her arrest was huge news in Killeen, Texas, and soon enough, more information about her started to come to light.
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especially from her social media accounts on cecily's instagram she often posted about selling feet pictures for money and how she was desperate for a sugar daddy on march 11th about a month before vanessa's disappearance she wrote looking for a real hashtag sugar daddy one who doesn't expect me to spend my money on him in any way I use hashtag cash app, only DM me if interested.
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Hashtag sugar daddy needed. Hashtag sugar daddy wanted. Cecily also posted an odd quote on Instagram one month after Vanessa's disappearance that said, People who fight fire with fire end up with the ashes of their own integrity. Which is eerie considering she helped burn Vanessa's body. In other posts she wrote, He showed her the darkest part of him.
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Now, her mother, Gloria, would later admit that she wasn't thrilled about her daughter's decision to enlist, but she also knew that it wasn't her decision to make. Vanessa was grown up. This was her life, so she had to respect it. But the army wasn't the only plan Vanessa had for her life. Her parents said she was a big dreamer.
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She said black is my favorite color and I loved her. the dark side of her. Any girl can play innocent, but her demons are what drove me wild. Her secrets, her pain she masked by laughter, her darkness she tries so hard to hide. That's what made me fall for her."
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Now, Cecily tried to convince investigators that she was the innocent victim who was forced to help dispose of Vanessa's body, but no one was believing that.
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The Guillen family, as well as the entire nation, was appalled, especially when they found out that it took the CID 72 days to even search the arms room where Vanessa had been murdered. Now, we knew from the very beginning that the room was where she was last seen alive, so why on earth wouldn't they have treated it like a crime scene?
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If they would have, they likely would have seen blood spatter or something that indicated Vanessa had been killed in there. But they didn't. Here's her sister Lupe speaking to the media.
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After serving her country, she wanted to go study chemical engineering at Texas A&M. She wanted to get married, start a family. Vanessa had actually been dating a boy named Juan Cruz for several years now, and things were getting pretty serious. They even talked about getting engaged soon.
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On Friday, July 3rd, Vanessa's family was informed that the human remains found did indeed belong to Vanessa. Family attorney Natalie Kawam said, We are at a loss for words. Our country has lost a beautiful young soldier because the system is broken. On August 14th, the Guillen family held a day-long public memorial for Vanessa in Houston.
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But first, Vanessa wanted to graduate from high school and start her career as a soldier in the army, all of which was right around the corner.
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Her casket, adorned with white roses and the image of the Virgin Mary, was taken by a horse-drawn carriage to the Cesar Chavez High School.
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where she graduated only a few years prior while everyone arrived spanish gospel music was played as well as selena's dreaming of you on august 15th vanessa guillen was laid to rest at a private funeral service at the holy name catholic church veterans from texas saluted her along the street that was lined with the american flag as vanessa's casket arrived her family shared heartfelt tributes to her life and afterwards she was taken to the forest park lawndale cemetery
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the murder investigation how were their failures on so many levels over the next few months the guyan family would continue to pray for justice they also wanted to make sure that no other soldier would have to go through what vanessa went through now military law works very differently than civilian law so they knew that if they wanted to make real change they would have to go all the way to the top
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And luckily for them, in August of 2020, the Guillens got the opportunity to go to the White House and speak with President Donald Trump. During the meeting, they shared their disappointment with how Fort Hood handled the case and how they wanted to make a change going forward.
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Specifically, they wanted to pass the I am Vanessa Guillen Act, a powerful piece of legislation that would change how the United States military handles sexual assault and sexual harassment cases.
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Her family said that during her boot camp graduation, Vanessa was glowing with happiness. Surprisingly, she was kind of sad it was over, but she was also so excited to start her career. She was even more excited when she found out that she was going to be stationed at Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas.
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One person who sponsored the I Am Vanessa Guillen Act was California Congresswoman Jackie Speier. Jackie had been advocating for change in the military since 2010. She has stated that these sexual assaults and harassments have been happening in the military from as early as the 1950s. And for decades after, these cases continued to be swept under the rug.
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In 2011, Jackie introduced the first piece of legislation that would hold the military accountable for these cases. But of course, there was pushback. So in 2020, when she heard of the I Am Vanessa Guillen Act, she was more than happy to help bring it to light. Jackie, along with one of the House members, introduced the I Am Vanessa Guillen Act to Congress.
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It stated, This bill is in honor of the late SPC Vanessa Guillen and the many survivors of military sexual violence who have bravely come forward in the wake of her disappearance and brutal murder.
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now the army could have sent her anywhere but luckily she would be just three hours away from her family in houston it was the perfect situation for vanessa but little did she know the fort hood military base would ultimately be the place where she would lose her life
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The legislation responds to these resounding calls for change by offering provisions that would revolutionize the military's response to missing service members and reports of sexual harassment and sexual assault by making sexual harassment a crime. within the Uniform Code of Military Justice, moving prosecution decisions of sexual assault and sexual harassment cases out of the chain of command.
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Specifically, the I am Vanessa Guillen Act would move prosecution decisions on sexual assault and sexual harassment cases outside of the chain of command to an office of the chief prosecutor within each military service. Create a standalone military offense for sexual harassment.
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Establish trained sexual harassment investigators who are outside of the chain of command of the complainant and the accused. Create a confidential reporting process for sexual harassment that is integrated with DOD's Catch a Serial Offender database.
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Require the Government Accountability Office to investigate the military's procedures for finding missing service members and compare with procedures used by civilian law enforcement and best practices.
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require both DOD and GAO to conduct separate evaluations of the military service's sexual harassment, assault response, and prevention programs, and establish a process by which service members can make claims for negligence and seek compensatory damages against DOD in the case of sexual assault or sexual harassment.
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On March 25th, 2021, Cecily Aguilar actually tried to have her confession thrown out. At this point, she had pleaded not guilty to all the charges, and if her confession was thrown out, it would really affect the trial. Her defense attorney filed a motion that stated Cecily was never read her Miranda rights on the evening of June 30th, 2020, until three hours into her interrogation.
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Her attorney stated, instead, they encouraged her to tell them about the alleged crime in order to help herself. without ever informing her that what she said could be used against her in court now cecily's confession was a huge part of getting justice so at this hearing vanessa's family along with protesters stood outside of the courthouse in the cold and chanted lock her up
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Now, on recording on the day of her confession, Cecily admitted that she was willingly giving that confession, and that she thought it would help her in the end. But clearly, she was wrong. And luckily, the judge decided to not throw out her confession, which was a huge win for the Guillen family.
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And while they waited for Cecily's federal trial to come around, they continued in their fight towards reform.
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SPC Guillen was sexually harassed by a supervisor. This supervisor created an intimidating, hostile environment. One of her supervisors made an inappropriate sexual comment in Spanish, in which SPC Guillen translated as a solicitation for her to participate in a threesome.
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This same supervisor encountered SPC Guillen while she performed personal hygiene in the wood line, and SPC Guillen reported that this made her uncomfortable. SPC Guillen's leadership failed to hold SPC Guillen's supervisor accountable.
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This report proved that Fort Hood clearly had corruption and toxic leadership. In fact, on July 10th, 2020, Secretary of the Army Ryan D. McCarthy ordered an investigation into the chain of command at Fort Hood due to the numerous deaths, suicides, and complaints of sexual assault and harassment.
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On December 8th, it was reported that the investigation found major flaws and that the climate was permissive of sexual harassment and sexual assault. The findings were alarming, not to mention the Defense Department conducted a survey that found in 2018 there were 2,500 instances of unwanted sexual contact of females, a number that had increased by 38% from 2016.
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Higher-ups at Fort Hood failed to intervene or investigate reports of sexual assault or sexual harassment.
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Ultimately, after the Guillen Report was released, 14 officials at Fort Hood were relieved of their duties or suspended, including Major General Scott Effland and the senior commander at Fort Hood in charge of the Third Corps, and Major General Jeffrey Broadwater, the commander of the 1st Cavalry Division.
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But for Vanessa's mother, the punishment was not brutal enough for the 14 relieved of their duties at Fort Hood. In an article in the New York Times, Gloria stated, Today I told the secretary of the army. Yes, it's fine. They relieved them. They took a few out. But no, I want prison and to discover the truth of what really happened. What really happened to my daughter? Why that horrible murder?
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She was not a cockroach. She was an innocent human being.
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In June of 2021, they actually changed the name to the Vanessa Guillen Military Justice Improvement Act to reflect a broader focus on both justice and prevention measures within the military. Like the original I Am Vanessa Guillen Act, the new bill would remove authority of sexual assault and sexual harassment cases outside the chain of command and give them to independent military prosecutors.
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On the one-year anniversary of Vanessa's death, Fort Hood dedicated a gate in Vanessa's memory. The gate led up to the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, the same regiment where Vanessa worked.
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Lupe said, "...that's the regiment Vanessa used to work, and everyone that passes through that gate will see my sister's name, my sister's picture, and remind themselves about how sexual harassment and assault has to be taken seriously, and about the way she was murdered, because no one deserves that." But Vanessa's memory was not only honored in the place where she lost her life.
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Throughout Houston, Austin, College Station, and other military installations around the globe, murals of Vanessa were made to honor her legacy. Vanessa Guillen was not only a member of the military, but she was also a sister, a daughter, a friend, and a hero who will always be remembered as the girl who helped give a voice to soldiers who were silenced by fear, shame, and retaliation.
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In August 2022, The Guillen family sued the United States government for negligence and wrongful death in the amount of $35 million. They argued that the army failed to protect Vanessa from sexual harassment and that they created a hostile environment that contributed to her being harassed and murdered.
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The lawsuit stated, Vanessa Guillen suffered mental anguish, fear, emotional distress, physical injury, and death as a result of sexual harassment, rape, sodomy, and physical assault.
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Ms. Aguilar's actions were indefensible, and she will now face the maximum penalty for the choices she made. I'm grateful for our law enforcement partners who worked tirelessly on this case, as their dedication was essential in bringing this defendant to justice.
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Vanessa's sister, Ira Guillen, also said, I'm happy to say that we can, in a sense, close this chapter and keep moving forward with, whether it's legislation or whatever it is of Vanessa's legacy. What's next is that we keep pushing forward. And they would. In the years after Vanessa's death, our country has kept her memory alive. In more ways than one.
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Near Vanessa's high school, at 5302 Galveston Road in Houston, a post office was renamed in her honor as the Vanessa Guillen Post Office Building. On the four-year anniversary of her death, Texas lawmakers also passed a bill that September 30th, Vanessa's birthday, would become Vanessa Guillen Day.
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We will also be making a donation to the I Am Vanessa Guillen Foundation, a nonprofit for survivors of military sexual assault, harassment, and violence. And don't forget to subscribe to our Patreon because we'll be doing an entire full-length episode investigating all the deaths, suicides, sexual assaults, murder, and corruption that's taken place at the Fort Hood military base.
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Hey everybody, thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of Murder in America. This is the end of our kind of Fort Hood mini-series and Fort Hood is just such a perplexing place. It's like a magnet that has drawn in the past couple decades so many negative events. So many of these suicides and murders are just so horrible and it's very bizarre.
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There seems to be an institutional problem there and actually they renamed Fort Hood to a new name a few years ago because Fort Hood was linked to some unsavory history of the name itself, but I think that secretly they wanted to rename Fort Hood just to escape the stigma that the place had attracted over the years with all these deaths.
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Obviously, living in Houston, this story has hit close to home, and yeah, this one is just... Just crazy to go through the details. If you want to join us on Patreon, you can get access to all of our episodes early and ad free. There are also bonus episodes available on Patreon. So if you love the show and you want to help support what we're doing here, please consider signing up for our Patreon.
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Sadly, sexual assault within the military is pretty common. According to California Democratic Representative Jackie Speier, the military has around 20,000 sexual assault cases a year, but only around 7,000 of those people report it. Then, out of those 7,000 reports, only about 250 people will get convicted. So the majority of the time, reporting this doesn't get you anywhere.
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But Fort Hood specifically has more sexual assaults than any other military base in the country. In 2014 alone, a study revealed that Fort Hood had 885 sexual assault victims.
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The New York Times would later report that women at Fort Hood had a higher risk of sexual assault than women stationed at other bases in the United States, saying, "...using gender and workplace data, researchers found that the total sexual assault risk to Army women at Fort Hood during 2018 was 8.4%, compared with a 5.8% risk for all women in the Army."
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So Fort Hood was a hotspot for these sexual assaults. Army veteran Lucy C. DelGaudio even said, Fort Hood just seems to cultivate the worst of the worst when it comes to command culture to that good old boys type of club. And before I move on, I just want you guys who are listening to this to think about that statistic.
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According to the representatives and the data, out of 20,000 sexual assaults that occur every year on military bases, only 250 of the people who carry out those assaults are convicted. That should deeply alarm you. And that should also deeply enrage you. 250 people convicted out of 20,000 on average. Those statistics are what we need to work on in America.
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I know this is just a little tangent, but this is something that Courtney and I really care about raising awareness about. And yeah, that's just absolutely unacceptable. And the more awareness we bring around this issue and the more we talk about it and bring it up and voice our concerns, hopefully the more change we'll see. But anyways, let's get back to the story.