Paul (co-host)
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you know, I'm getting myself going.
I don't need you to be doing all of that.
Shut up.
Be quiet.
You used to get to talk and doing all that.
Shut up.
You messing up my concentration.
I got this.
What's your preferred toy of choice?
It depends on if it's hidden.
You walked in, he was in the middle of it, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Goddamn!
You walked in, he was just making sound effects.
What you doing?
Truth in the building.
I'm good.
What's up?
Really cooked?
I'm really cooked?
Damn, I don't think men get cooked until about like 70.
Yeah, my boy Al Pacino still having babies.
He's like 80-something.
Bill Belichick, popping.
Oh, man, what's going on?
Do you agree?
Ruthless.
Man, of course I agree with that.
Man, because women are way more ruthless at like,
Like, this is the thing.
Women be out here setting dudes up, getting them robbed, getting them killed, giving all type of traps out.
Men don't do that to females.
You know what I'm saying?
So when you say ruthless, it's an evil world.
And girls, sometimes, some women have just a one-track mind.
i'm gonna get this dude set up i'm gonna try to get him child support robbed things like we gotta look out for all type of like for real you really gotta be careful and really vet the person that you trying to hang out with you know everything can be all good and dandy the next thing you know you're getting robbed you know what i'm saying that happens a lot that that happens a lot and that's just
I mean, men don't do that.
Men don't do that to women.
You know, women are out here doing shit like that.
And it's just, man, I mean, I don't know if he meant it in that type of context or, you know, like I've seen it in divorces where the woman tries to take everything.
He gave her a life.
And women be trying to take it all, like, damn, you know, where did the love go at some point?
You know, it's just like, damn, I think things like that is kind of ruthless.
It's like when you try to, it's almost like trying to strip a man down to just naked, bare knuckles, like how they do you in jail.
I mean, I was just saying, I mean.
Bend over, cough, all that.
Bend over, cough, all that.
It's men.
I mean, no, no, no.
Hell no.
It's always women.
Turn off and go cold?
I think...
I don't know, because the get back is always because of the man, I feel like.
Initiating all the get backs.
I think we do all the get back.
I mean, it don't matter who do all the wrong.
Time heals all.
The man is doing the get back.
I think women cheat more than men.
No, I think because men don't look as hard as women, too.
Unless you just obvious signs, like, you know, not all answering your phone.
Like, just weird.
Just not just doing stuff like when you just out of the norm, out of character.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, just stuff that you do and you just be like, damn.
And so, well, you know, men don't really harp on it like women do.
Women know what to do to make a man forget.
Women know what to do to make a man forget.
I don't know.
Yeah, you know.
No, I don't know.
Women know what to do to make a man forget.
If you did something wrong to him, you know what to do.
You're going to be like, damn, I'm good, baby.
I'm good.
And when a man bring it up, you know what to do.
Every time.
He's going to be like, my bad.
I don't care.
Because you're cheating because you never really liked him.
You just like the situation he put you in.
You know what I'm saying?
So you're just going to roll along with it and still do you.
What is the dirtiest thing you ever heard a woman do to a man or like do to you?
Man, or a woman due to a man?
Well, for me, I think, like, if you take care of somebody and they steal from you.
I agree with that.
That's the bottom of the barrel for me.
That's the bottom of the barrel.
Like, if you my girl or something, and we've been together or something for a long time, or you steal...
Like, you know, I've been able to get over cheating.
I've been able to get over, like, maybe even being lied to.
But, like, stealing is the worst, I feel like.
Because it just, like, we talked about this before.
Because it covers everything.
Lying covers, I mean, stealing covers lying and cheating.
Like, cheating is just cheating.
Exactly.
Damn, that's crazy.
Foul is a strong word.
Which one?
I mean, I've done, I remember one case.
I was, I don't know.
I remember I went out with this girl.
We went to a spot.
This is before Uber.
It was like here, downtown L.A.
And then we got into some type of argument for some reason.
And I was like, what are we arguing?
It got to the point I was just like, get out in the middle of downtown.
Yeah, okay.
I was like, you got to get out.
Kicked her out right there.
And, like, it was a dark place, too.
It was, like, in the parking lot at a spot at a parking lot, though.
And there was, like, no Uber there.
Because I don't deal with disrespect either.
It was something that happened that was disrespectful.
Yeah, it was disrespectful.
And that's one thing I won't tolerate ever.
So I was like, you got to get out right now.
And then the crazy thing about it, I didn't see the girl for like some years.
And then I ran back and I ran into her.
But I told her about it.
You know, I was like, damn, you can't, you know.
And we became cool again.
But it wasn't like...
I don't know, like, trying to get with her no more.
It was just, like, just cool.
Like, I'll see her or something.
It would just be cool.
Damn, that's cold.
I can't.
I didn't do that.
I didn't walk out on the middle of a dinner.
I'm like, I'm good.
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm not feeling this.
No, I was just like, boom, boom, boom, here, I'm out.
What makes someone do that?
One day,
I went out.
She came in some sweat.
This was our first date.
She came in a sweat suit.
And I was just like, it was me and my boy.
I was having my boy come sit at the table over there.
You know, he's just watching me, making sure I'm straight.
And I was just like, she came in a sweat suit.
And I was just like, damn, this how you coming?
And so I was like, you know what, I'm good.
And I got up and was like, hey, man, you know, get her, you know, you stay here, eat with her, have a drink, and I'm out.
Yeah, this is the first day.
You don't come in no goddamn sweatsuit.
Like, this is our first date.
This is what you think of me?
I'll take you to this nice restaurant and you came in a sweatsuit.
This is how you felt?
Like, I'm good.
You're not my type.
Off the jump.
Because you didn't know to, like, put the heels on and get nice for the date.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
That's like...
I'm like, no, I'm good.
I got up and was like, all right, you know, my boy going to stay.
there wasn't no more dates after that.
Yeah, I'm cool on that.
If you on a first date, don't come in the sweat.
The first date, that's like after you get to know them and stuff.
Exactly.
We cool and we done had a vibe going and you just wanted to relax.
But like the first one,
Like, I'm coming with my bomb cologne, my, like, shirt.
I'm trying to look proper.
Like, I feel like the girl should do that, too.
Yeah, I was good.
I was just like, no, I'm good.
That's not any little thing, though.
No, it's not.
Because if it happens early, it's going to happen.
Once you get into it, it's going to get worse.
Yeah, that's true.
So I'm cool at the beginning.
Like when it's right there, that's the red flag.
I mean, I don't know if it's considered a red flag, but I ain't feeling that.
I'm just not feeling that.
So if we doing it early, then imagine when you get comfortable with somebody.
That's standard.
Like we gonna start with just heels and then we'll figure out the rest.
It depends on where we going.
Like if I'm taking you to the fair or the carnival.
I feel like this.
If you out with me, you are a representation of me.
You're an extension of me.
So when you're seen with me, people are going to be like, oh, okay, I get it.
You better be looking goddamn good in that outfit.
That outfit better be outfitting.
That outfit better be outfitting.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, it just looks better.
It looks better.
I feel like that's a grown woman.
It's classy, I feel like.
I mean, I don't want you coming in no Reeboks and no Air Force Ones or some Jordans.
That's a no-no for me.
That's wild.
Don't pull up on no Jordans.
I'm good.
Jordan is out of pocket.
I can wear some Jordans on any of the dates.
You can't wear Jordans on none of the dates.
And that's my favorite pair.
Like, it depends where we going, though.
We going to like.
This Friday, we going out.
I ain't telling you where we going.
That's going to be the test.
I'm going to see what she doing.
Right.
So, I mean, yeah, that means something because you setting a standard, you know, because I'm going to set a standard like, man, you know, I'm like, think about this.
Women do stuff for men just like men do stuff for women.
Like we get the cars we get.
We get the clothes we get for the woman.
We get the jewelry.
We get the look how we want for the woman.
I feel like the women should do the same thing for other men.
Yeah, you know, you're getting your lips right and your hair done and you wear these heels just because you want to look good for the man that you mess with, right?
Yeah, for sure.
100%.
Let's do it.
Yeah, but there's some women out there that might wear a hoodie.
I'm good.
I'm good.
Don't wear a hoodie.
If we go out to eat, no, don't wear a hoodie to go out to eat at night because this is our night.
I'm taking you out because I want to see you looking good.
I'm looking at all of that.
Okay, you're clocking all of that.
You're clocking all of that.
Let me come back to that.
I'm going to see how consistent you are.
Yeah, you're clocking that.
Yeah, I'm going to look.
You know, it ain't going to be on.
Some little stuff I can deal with, like the outfit ride heels, the nails ain't done, but it can't be all chipped.
You can just have low nails.
Yeah, just have no nails.
I can't do the chipped.
You know, then you have a chipped nail.
Yeah, we're not going out like that.
We like once every two, twice a month, four times a month.
And don't you feel as if, like... Well, you better get that hair that lasts a couple weeks.
That's... Get that one that's gone.
Get that wig.
Get that lace front that's gone.
That shit look good for a couple weeks.
Okay.
Shit.
Come on, don't be doing me like that.
I can't just every weekend you need to get your hair done?
300, 300, that's 1,200.
Man, you're going to just go get that big shaver.
Shave that day you pull up.
But you should know how to wax your cooter, too.
Oh, I don't know.
I don't know that situation.
Yeah, I saw that.
I got to see them on.
They probably look sexy.
I don't know.
Yeah, I know it's just fake, though.
They probably look like sexy on the end of some panties.
And then they come off, you're like, ooh, okay, that's that wax.
It's really that.
People like different.
You know, that's like nothing we, nobody ain't made that.
So it's like, damn, that could look sexy just when she walking around with those on and it just, you know, it look like it's a hairy thing.
And it's just like, damn.
This is crazy.
What?
But you know, but when you know in your mind that it ain't, it's just like, you know, it's just like when you wear clothes, it's just like wearing clothes.
It's just coochie clothes.
Don't fool me.
You fooling me now.
If you're wearing it and then it come off and they ain't that, they don't.
They're not giving that.
You're like, damn, dog.
I saw them through the shirt.
I thought they was that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, damn.
You fooled me.
I mean, women need to stop fooling men.
Y'all fool us too much anyway.
Yeah, I agree.
There's too much foolery going on.
Y'all get the fake hair, nails, eyes.
Now it's the fake nipple.
Like, damn, come on.
Y'all killing us.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm about to date me an AI.
I'm going to just get me an AI robotic something.
Since everything fake, might as well go AI when them robots coming out.
It depends on if it's hidden.
It's hidden.
It's a vibe.
If they make it to where stuff is hidden.
I can turn you off.
That's alive.
That's talking.
Yeah.
What do you need today?
Your wish is my command.
Make daddy a sandwich.
Anytime.
Man, think about it.
They had that after a hard breakup and you get that right in the crib.
That's not depressing.
Yeah, it is.
But the robot look cracking.
Man, it's going to have a feel.
It has a feel to it?
It has a feel to it.
Man, it's going to do on command.
Like, hey, you know, go over there and, you know.
Yeah, of course you value that.
But in times of, like, depression, you might want that.
Joy, you know what?
I love Joy.
Hey, Joy, you know what else he got?
He got extra panties.
He got extra lingerie for you in case you forget.
He got extra heels for you, too.
I love Joy down, but you know what?
She want a dude that's a whole player.
Exactly.
You know what, Joy?
You know what I think of Joy?
I think Joy like that because I think Joy a player, too.
She a little player.
She's a player?
I don't know.
I don't know, and this is just me guessing.
Don't do her.
She might not be.
That's my sis, and I love her.
But, like, when you say stuff like that, I be like, damn, you know, I'm not even tripping if he got the eyelashes because, all right, I ain't tripping.
She said it was her first day over there.
Now, don't get mad at me if I got something.
I'm crying.
He might got extra lashes in case yours fall off.
No, I'm just saying.
But my point is.
If he got the extra two.
You mad if he got the extra.
What if he got all the size.
I had a boy.
He had extra heels in his house.
He had like all the sizes.
But what if it's got the tag on it and it's still brand new?
We got to just closet that.
So my boy, he had the, so he had all these clothes for women in all the different sizes.
Not only heels, he had tennis shoes, he had clothes, and what he called the closet.
You making this up.
No, I'm not.
I can't make this up.
I got friends that got a lot of money that do stuff with a lot of different girls.
I seen it.
So he got this closet.
He called it the walk of shame closet because he lived in the high rise.
So, you know, they call it the walk of shame when the girl walk out and she missing one eyelash and the makeup all messed up and she in her club outfit.
So he got the fits for her to not look like she's going through the walk of shame.
He got, like, the hoodie for her, the sweatsuit for him.
Like, so when you walk out, you don't feel like you're walking through the walk of shame.
And I was like, damn.
Yeah.
I think it's the energy.
It's not every time.
Like, you know, like I said, I did that to a woman I was with for years.
And then, you know, it's just like, damn, it ain't like something I'm looking to do.
Yeah, you do this all the time.
I'm the fool.
Yeah, I'm the idiot.
Did he, you know, play with that on the first?
Did he?
You ain't never had somebody like play with that?
Maybe.
Don't say maybe, that's a yeah.
Yes, you said maybe.
He was kissing on him and then he was like rubbing on that inner thigh.
High upper inner thigh.
Whatever.
I don't.
You've come close on the first night.
You've come close to any type of sexual activity on the first night?
Have you had any kind of sexual activity on the first night?
Oh, well, there's no difference.
Now you don't want to talk about it.
You said you've had a sexual something encounter.
But it wasn't sex.
What did you do?
There's only two things that can happen.
You said, you just said the first night you had a sexual encounter that wasn't sex, but you said it was something else.
What was it?
No, not this one.
Yeah, once.
No, I'm just saying, you're an older lady now.
You're an older lady.
That's a good number.
That's not old.
That's a good number, though.
Yeah.
That's a great number.
Yeah.
I think it's more the thing that the women like men that are...
that that's theirs, that they like, all right, I know a lot of girls like him, but he mine now.
Well, you know what, though?
I don't know.
Maybe it's that he's mine now.
She said that she don't get a lot of attention.
Well, this is the thing.
how does she know what type of attention he gets from women?
Well, maybe he don't see it.
Like, where is he at?
Paul!
No, no, no, listen.
And listen carefully.
Like, let's say Steph gets attention from women.
Okay.
Like, where is he getting attention from?
Are girls actually coming up to him while he's with his wife?
are girls DMing him and she's looking at it.
It's like, it's like he's getting letters in the mail.
I mean, I don't know.
Where does she see the attention from the women?
And because I'm sure like,
Men are definitely in her DMs too.
No, she says they're not.
And she's complained about it multiple times.
It's tough to be in a position.
Well, the thing is about being married to a high-level celebrity, you know, class A, it's like you got to understand what comes with that.
Yeah.
You know, and it's not easy to deal with because as a woman, y'all love attention more than men.
You know, especially a famous man.
Famous men get to the point they hate the attention because it's too much to where we don't even like to go places.
Whereas girls want to get cute and at least be like, dang, girl, you fine and it's good.
And maybe you're not messing with them, but you like to hear it.
You know, you like to hear, you know, the comments on Instagram.
Damn, that outfit is busting.
Damn, you know, girls like to read that and hear that.
Whereas men, we don't really care.
Like, when you at that level, you don't really care.
You get so much attention, you're like, well, I ain't even rich.
So this goes back to our first segment where we talked about when LeBron said there are a lot of ruthless ass bitches.
Because that's the ruthlessness in a girl.
Because they be looking like, oh, damn.
You know, it was like that for me.
It was like certain girls that I probably liked or I wanted to holler at.
Then when I got married and they didn't talk to me before, they was like, damn, okay, I'm pressing him now.
I'm like, damn, for real?
Like, nah, because girls like the challenge to be like, they want to one-up a girl and they want to one-up that marriage to where this is where the ruthless come in.
Like, okay, I'll break this shit up.
You know what I'm saying?
It's ruthless girls out there.
It's an ego shit too.
That will like try to get him and put him in a situation to where they get a flick with him or something in a text or something to where, especially in a social media age, go ahead and say something.
Run them pockets, homie.
This picture is going to go everywhere.
This is after you was... Or before...
No, I'm just saying, was it after or during or when?
So this was before that?
No, I'm just saying.
So let's call your 280-ness, let's just call that COVID.
You had a COVID period.
It was during COVID.
Oh, that was during COVID.
So you just had a hiccup.
It was like you had a pre-COVID and then a COVID, and now you're back.
So COVID was a blip in the matrix.
That's all.
It was a blip in the matrix, and now you're good.
I can't even talk about it.
You don't need no mask no more.
You're good.
Because you need to erase that.
COVID is like, I feel like COVID was like, you need to erase that part of my life or a part of history.
It was just like so much, nothing you could do.
And then it was just like, damn, people went into depression, lost jobs, people died.
Just blip that out.
What's the difference you was making?
Like, this is crazy.
You was messing up the food crisis?
You was taking food out of people's mouths.
That's what you was doing.
I'm just messing with you.
I had to go back to that.
Hey, we got to remind people you're an inspiration.
You know, you're in the gym three, four times a week now.
You had your blip in the Matrix, and now you're cracking.
You know, share the story.
It's fine to talk about it.
No, I didn't say delete it, but you could just, you know, chalk it up to the COVID and say that was, you know, you know.
That was like an NBA would have considered that the lockout.
It was a down year or two.
I'm so sick of this man.
The lockout.
That was during the lockout.
My bad.
Sometimes we got to get back to that.
Okay.
What's popping though?
What do you mean?
What does ejaculate mean?
Oh, damn.
20 times a month?
I don't understand how Harvard didn't come up with these numbers.
Do they just sit in a room and they'll do, you know, he's just like, you got to do this for 21 days, my boy, and then we'll see.
They've got to do this for years now.
Now you have to do it for years and we're going to sit here and monitor this.
Come on now.
What does that mean again?
To come.
So that means, okay, to play with yourself or have a sexual encounter where you can.
Is that realistic?
Yeah.
I'm sure it's a lot of people that do that.
I'm sure it's guys that play with they self every day.
I mean, that's, you know, you got to keep, you got to stay, keep the stamina up.
I'm sure it's dudes that do that every day, you know?
Ain't nothing wrong with that to me.
That's a good question.
Um, yeah.
Well, maybe a man be like, why don't you just save that for me?
You know what I'm saying?
And then on the flip side, it could be the woman just like, damn, you turn me on so much that I want to do this and I think of you.
I don't know.
It's a fine line between that.
What is your thing?
I don't have no real problem with that.
I think that if you're in a relationship and that's what you do, I would like to be present some days you do it.
I would like to be present.
Like, if your girl do that 21 days, like, the study say they need to do it, I want to be present some of them days, and I'll just be, like, watching a movie, like... Watching a movie?
I'm relaxed.
I'm over here looking.
That feels so crazy.
No, it's awkward.
I want you to do what you do when I'm not around so I can see what you do.
You can still use your eyes and interact.
If I'm not there, how are you getting off?
Why you don't need me to do that now?
No, I'm not saying he's watching a movie, but he's going to be like, okay, yeah, okay, yeah.
All right, so I'm going to reverse it now.
So like, because if I'm in my mode to where I'm going.
you know, I'm getting myself going.
Yeah.
I don't need you to be doing all of that.
Shut up.
Be quiet.
You used to get to talk and doing all that.
Ah, shut up.
You messing up my concentration.
I don't care what you're doing.
Just don't say nothing.
Let me, because I'm going to.
I got this.
What?
I got this.
So what you going to be doing if he's sitting there doing that?
What you going to be like?
Oh yeah.
If he's in there, you and your man laying in the bed.
I just feel like stroking myself right now.
Like, damn.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't do nothing, baby.
Just, you know, just lay there.
I'm going to just, you know, rub on you with this hand and the other hand.
I'm going to get myself going.
You don't have to say nothing.
Most men is like going to be just like, I don't know, maybe closing their eyes and just picturing him and his girl just like if they're doing that.
What's your preferred toy of choice?
Okay, so the question is, what's your toy of choice?
That's what it's called.
So if I go into the store, I'll say, give me the clit toy.
Most girls like the massage thing with the ball at the top.
No, most girls don't like that.
So now it's the rose that just came out a few years ago.
What is it then?
Explain it.
What does it look like?
How big is the clit?
God damn, that's a D at that point if you could put it in the... If you got...
The clit gets... Yeah, it does.
That's crazy.
How big is the clit?
You put it over... That's wild.
I wonder how that one toy feel, that one that for the men, that got... Yeah, yeah, I always wondered that, a little bulb with the flesh in there.
You wondered how that feel too?
Oh, no, I ain't never, I ain't never.
He walked in, he was in the middle of it, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, damn!
Goddamn!
He walked in, he was just making sound effects.
What you doing?
What if you walk in and he got the sex dog?
That's cheating?
But I'm just saying, if you walk in, what's going to happen?
It's not cheating.
Y'all going to be arguing?
Y'all going to break up?
You're just weird.
So what?
I don't know.
Baby, you've been out of town.
Damn, wait.
Can sex save a relationship?
Well, if the relationship, that don't make sense.
But what are they falling apart... It depends on what you're falling apart from.
Well, it shouldn't get to that point.
You should have been doing that to keep them from the breakup moment.
Like financial problems.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kids or something like that.
I think sex makes it last longer than it needs to because the issue still didn't go away.
You know, maybe it just extended the stay.
But it's not ultimately going to solve the problem if there's an issue outside of sex.
Yeah.
You know, so.
And then you got some guys and some girls that's just like, damn, I really hate this dude or I really won't ever be with him, but I will have sex with him.
You know, or her.
Like, and, but he like, it be dudes and girls so sprung on the sex, and that's it.
You know, the values go out.
You know, they have a whole nother man, but they like having sex with their ex.
Yeah.
I'm blocking you.
But you never had a situation to where you got somebody you got to deal with
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I would be very clean.
Yeah, you got to be cut and dry.
Everything's got to just be about... The children.
Nothing else.
Let me ask you something.
Yeah.
Like, is it...
What's the limit?
All right, so say like an ex.
Yeah.
Let's say baby kid, baby daddy or baby mama.
Do you get presents for their birthday and Christmas and Valentine's and stuff like that?
Okay, so what about Christmas?
If you're with another girl.
Okay, yes.
That's weird to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, like, say you're single.
Well, there's no line if you're single.
Well, I can speak on this because I did this for a lot of years.
You know, I like got gifts for the mama so the kids can see that me just being nice.
You know what I'm saying?
But I don't fuck with that.
You don't want to dog them, because the kids see it.
But it ain't got to be nothing major.
It ain't got to be a major gift.
I think you get them a gift.
It could be something like, for example, it could be like,
Some sandals or some shit.
So flowers is cool for Christmas?
Like my ex.
How about a text?
No, I'm saying, what if he like, happy birthday?
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