Patricia Heaton
Appearances
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
Thanks. Thanks for having me, Ben.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
Yeah, that's correct. It's called October 7th Coalition, or as we call it, 07C. And it was born out of my dismay at seeing a lack of response on the part of Christians to what happened on October 7th. We saw a huge response from all the pro-Hamas people in major cities and on campuses across the country, which were incredibly well-financed, well-organized groups.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
It's interesting that on October 8th, suddenly everyone had printed signs. Everyone had a keffiyeh. I mean, it clearly was planned prior to October 7th. So that's something interesting to look into. But at any rate, I was outraged and I just thought I would see our whole country up in arms as to what had happened. And it was crickets.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
I live in Nashville, and I know many, many people here have been to Israel a number of times. I know they support Israel, so I was confused as to why there wasn't any more of an outpouring. I think as far as churches go, I think pastors are afraid it's too political. They don't want to be seen as anti-Muslim. But I don't think that's a strong enough excuse.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
There's something going on here that's not about Muslims, it's about radical Islam. And I think you should be able to speak up against it, just like a few pastors did during World War II, who spoke up against the Nazis. And again, there were only a few that also did that. So I guess it's not a surprise.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
But we put the October 7th Coalition together to try to activate Christians to be visibly and vocally supportive of the Jewish people, of Israel's right to exist, and to fight antisemitism. And we started right here in Nashville, reaching out to the Jewish Federation and to all the rabbis and Jewish leaders sent a letter of support.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
We did a unity dinner with 250 Christian pastors and leaders to just say we're here and to just get to know each other. That's part of the thing. A lot of people will go to Israel, say, I love Israel. They'll come back. They don't know any Jewish people in their hometown. So I think it's really important now that we see that this
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
radical Islamist plan for the world is unfolding, that we all need to be vigilant and get to know each other, work with each other. And we also have to really get on social media. I know you don't go on TikTok, but that's where a lot of this war is being waged for the minds of people. So that's a big part of it.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
Yes, it's interesting. And I think, and we're seeing that on the right now more in people that you and I know who are asking questions, as they like to put it, about Jewish people. They've suddenly discovered the word Ashkenazi, and suddenly Ashkenazi means that you're not really Jewish or that you're actually in charge of everything or that you're...
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
It's this newfound way of being able to be anti-Semitic, you know, without saying you don't like Jewish people or you hate Jews. So it's this really nefarious kind of thing that's creeping in. You know, Ben, when you look at the history of the church, there are some early church fathers that are revered. for their theology, St. John Chrysostom, St. Augustine, all these people.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
There was elements of mild and then really extreme anti-Semitism in those early church fathers, but it was really theological. It was all about the theology. What we're seeing today is a whole different thing about race and And it's such bigotry. It's such uninformed bigotry. It's such uneducated, ignorant bigotry. And it's very, very frustrating when you see people that you
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
you thought were smart and you thought were intelligent and thought were educated, spewing this just ignorant garbage.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
I don't know it was Trump as much as the instigator of this move was really about the extremism of the left. The Democrats allowed very extremist people to take over the party. And when you're forced to say things you don't believe, when you're forced to say things that are not true or you'll lose your job, like men can get pregnant. That's crazy. And people started recognizing the crazy.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
I think, and then you have, you know, Trump comes back in as the candidate, which I was so shocked by. I never thought that would happen. And seems to be just talking common sense. And it's like the scales are falling from people's eyes.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
And when I see what's going on now, I know none of this is being done in an elegant way, but I think you had to bulldoze a lot of what was going on in our federal government because it was just sclerotic. It was just frozen, calcified. Nobody could make a dent in anything. And as RFK Jr., who like, I don't know about that. I'm still not sure.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2206 - Is There A Debt Bomb About To Drop?!
But I think what he's doing right now, he said, I got rid of those dyes in 100 days. You had this department for 40 years. You never got rid of those dyes. Give me some credit. I think that's what is even if the tariffs make prices go up. I don't think people are going to care because stuff is being taken care of. It should have been done 40, 50 years ago.