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Radiolab

Everybody's Got One

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Hi, I'm Parisa, and I'm from Ottawa, Canada. And here are the staff credits. Radiolab was created by Jad Aboumarad and is edited by Soren Wheeler. Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are our co-hosts. Dylan Keefe is our director of sound design. Our staff includes Simon Adler, Jeremy Bloom, Becca Bressler, W. Harry Fortuna, David Blankenship,

Radiolab

Everybody's Got One

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Our fact trackers are Diane Kelly, Emily Krieger, and Natalie Middleton.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah, but I'm sorry. You and I got into it last time about this. We don't need to rehash it. But I'm like, I'm sorry. But it's like there's some iota of responsibility where it's like just because you don't traditionally think bringing a girl home and meeting your family and spending holidays and doing and wedding dates and all of that isn't a relationship status.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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To the majority of people, it is. So Wes being immature and not saying that to her face.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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That was kind of crazy. I'm just like, once he's in on. But anyways, also, the other defense I do have.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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With a conversation he'd never had with Sierra. What was the headline?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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It was like that being Sierra and being the newbie guy and that he just felt or like that he just wanted to break up with her. But it was like a bunch of headlines that they showed. But it's like, no, there's no reason why somebody from a first season on a show would is getting a New York Times expose on his relationship storyline. It made zero sense.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah. My whole thing is just the term milking. It claims that it's like we're trying to drag something out. I don't know how someone's milking it when they're not really talking about it.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Girl. Yes, Jesse Sullivan being so messy.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Teaser. Coming up, Sierra and Jesse are flirting and Lexi is pissed.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Well, that's why I'm like, they're just messy because I'm like, usually for me, a friend's ex hookup, whatever, would be off limits. But it's like, all right, West, you're done with her. Let me take a whack at it. They're messy in the summer house.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Is that a thing? I guess Connor, will you be mine? Yeah. Connor asked me like five days before Valentine's day over cookies.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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He's like, but do you want it for Valentine's Day? But anytime you stood in front of the luxury window, he was like, yeah, nope. Let's go. Keep it moving.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah. running around like i don't really know it's like maybe they'll figure it out maybe they won't like it's kind of a weird place when it's like sam is making the most sense out of everybody in a roundtable situation

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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They're going to split three ways. And they're like, actually, no. Yeah.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I mean, them fighting every turret meeting where it's just like, y'all might as well just rock, paper, scissors, murder one of you.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Well, the thing is, like, Danielle's playing an emotional game right now where it's, like, it would actually make the most sense to have Brittany in, not because she's your best friend, but because people are already looking at her as a traitor.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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That I'm, like, if they do vote her out in the next roundtable and she became a traitor, then it looks like you guys are actually onto something or we got one of the two women that we're thinking are traitors out. But Danielle wants Brittany on as a traitor, as, like, as a teammate, and that's not going to work if you're trying to protect her.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Say what you want, but I'm like, it's making him more endearing in my eyes. I'm not going to lie. The fact that like, A, they would not have gotten through that challenge without him.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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But also the game players are so used to like competing for like a final prize and having like an incentive where you have the housewives and whatnot that are just like paid for drama. But like they don't know how to get to like the final round. For some of them, this is their first game they've ever played.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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So it's like to your point, the gamers are like know how to be strategic to get to the end. But like a lot of the housewives and people are like, well, I don't.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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But then you had Tom Sandoval being like... No, he was wearing.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah, if Rob didn't call him out, he wasn't going home. Yeah, no way. That's true. That's true. I was like, it was literally Dylan on an island alone.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I just love of like all the steakhouses and restaurants in New York City that you just keep going back to this one being like, we will rewrite this memory and you will love this place.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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We have... Carolyn, Sam, Dolores, Dylan, Gabby, Sandoval, Ivor, Danielle.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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That's what I'm saying. He's the smartest one in the group right now.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah. If they get rid of Sam, then I'm like, wouldn't it just instantly put a target on Caroline's back? Because his whole gameplay was to try to see if she knew what Alan's outfit was.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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That would have been really cool. That would have been really cool.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I wish we got to see more of Derek's gameplay, to be honest. I think he was the smartest one, knowing what he was watching in people call out.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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He's really big on that. And that's pretty much his style. So it's like... Seeing how his style works for the challenge, but doesn't work in traitors where it's like you can threaten, do whatever, but I dare you guys to give me up. But if you don't, traitors, they're like, no, we're not going to take time.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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It used to be, like, a bunch of, like, MTV people from the real world and Road Rules Challenge, and then it's evolved since. But they're, like, dropped down in, like, Bali or whatever, and they do physically strenuous games where people get down in the bottom and then people get voted out. But it's a lot of, like... negotiating and trying to, in allyship and whatnot.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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So it's like a lot of manipulation, but it's also a lot of like physical strength that's exerted.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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He was on Real World, either Houston or Dallas. It was a Texas version back in like 2000, I don't know, eight, seven. I watched it in high school.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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A Big Brother I never watched an episode of. I just know it's a bunch of people living in a house and that you can get voted out that way. And it's like you're being watched 24-7.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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But your name is Nick. Why do you have to think about the N? Yeah, you're not like, hey, everyone, I'm Mick.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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You're completely in the right. Thank you. You're economizing the heat.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I've definitely snuck into a hotel lobby to pee before in a city. Yeah, that's okay.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I wonder if maybe we just haven't gotten there yet. You said in the pods that your sister wasn't thrilled about you coming on the show. What was her take on this last drop and like an end of you being on the show?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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And it's kind of a good way to tell someone sensitive or not. They're not going to get your sense of humor. Yeah.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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He also made a joke right after saying he was on OnlyFans. So I'm like, I think this is just his icebreaker of showing his personality.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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That's kind of why this show is great because then they make them live together. So it's like how their relationship would take the next step. But have they always done that?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Well, that's where things go off the rails, too, because it's like it is that like it's like, oh, I come home from work and I like to have a drink. And then this is when the fight starts. And it's like, and now I'm stressed and I'm back in my normal life.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Right. But then when people are like normal and good and cool, nobody cares about them. And then everybody cares about the drama that does ensue. But there are healthy relationships.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Or like, what is it like genuine pony? Like, that's where I'm just like, what is on a sex jams list?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I want to make you feel special and kick your ass out. Yeah. I liked her. I was bummed. She was one of my favorites. Yeah, after the Chubby Bunny thing. Chubby Bunny was really cute. And a girl who loves her cat, I can always relate to.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Well, what's the worst thing to have on a sex playlist? Everything. I think Genuine Pony.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah, literally. No, but she made a point. It has to be playing when I walk in, and it has to be a casual thing.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I had to skip a Pitbull song one time because music was playing, and I was like, this can't happen.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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It was like hotel rooms. I was like, I can't. Oh, we have the hotel motel holiday. And I was like, I can't. This is not. It ruined the vibe. All right.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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It was in last week's episode where she was going off about, like, I wish I never even went on that date. Like, I don't feel secure about this. I need more time. Or I don't even know if this is the person for me. Like, she went on a whole thing after coming back from Vegas where these girls were like, I haven't even gotten one-on-one time with him at a group date.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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And I also think that this is providing a little bit of context of why Rose said what she said is because I think Carolina is going around.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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complaining saying all these thoughts and they're just like comparing stories and whatnot and then whenever Carolina gets upset that's when she's running to Grant or crying and whatnot but like you think a whole bunch of women dating the same men want to hear you complain about how your time was spent or you not getting enough time when you've had the most time you do seem ungrateful and Juliana was being an adult pulled her aside and was like hey

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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In the context of which you're talking about, Grant, it doesn't seem like you want to be here. And if I was saying things the way that you were, I would hope someone would say to me, why are you still here?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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But that's the thing. If she would have done that in front of all of the women who also felt that same way, then Carolina would start crying and being like, everyone's attacking me and ganging up on me, which she still ended up doing anyways without that happening. So I'm just like, no, she's playing the victim.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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But then also when Grant's not around, she's talking shit or at least being like, no, somebody should feel bad for me for what I'm going through. And I just don't. You've had the best dates experience. He's pretty much made it very clear in front of women kissing you and whatnot that you have his attention and it's still not good enough for you.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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All of a sudden she was like, I can't even let you get through a sentence with that.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah, I think that she was overwhelmed in that moment. I think she's on the wrong show if these are the things she's worried about. You know what I mean?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Well, she is on the right show. But for her to be like, oh, I'm not sure about Grant. It's like, girl, you're on The Bachelor. So the house is like, it's kind of a cult mentality, it seems to me. And so she's not buying into it. And it's like, to be on the show, you kind of have to buy into it, right?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Carolina, yeah. No, Carolina is making a point that it's like something is happening to her and everybody's time now is being completely monopolized by Carolina having tears and a problem. Either deal with it head on or discuss it with Grant in your one-on-one time and then sit down and let other people have their moment.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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But it's like the entire night, every Rose ceremony is everybody consoling or Grant needing to console Carolina. And it's just retired.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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No, I mean, even then I saw like when she went outside, I was like, the sun is coming up. They've probably been drinking. And I'm just like, I think it just got to her. She's like, yeah, I've been here all night. We're not getting time together. The last time we talked, we are disconnected. She confronts the situation.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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And it's like, yeah, he's not saying I was going to pick you tonight or like I don't want you to go home. He said, OK, let me walk you to your car.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Because even then, I've changed my tune completely on Zoe. Now, knowing what I know about her background, I'm like, OK, I understand why you're defensive and that you're not trying to open up with these women right now. And you're coming here for a goal.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I still stand by the fact that if you're coming on The Bachelor saying you're not here for making friends, you don't get to cry when the women do not like you. But even seeing them all come together, I was like, okay, this is just like easing into things. It's a weird situation having 20 women dating one man or 10 women at this point dating one man. But like,

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Period. We love that. One thing I have to say about Grant's season and tell me if you agree or disagree. But I kind of feel like watching this season, this is the first time where I'm like not really sure where he's going to go. Like I feel like he has so many genuine connections with these women. Like even his date with Serafina today where I was like wasn't thinking of hers and yesterday's show.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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But like how much chemistry and how great their date went. And they just were on that three on one last week. And it's just like I never know. I just feel like there's always a new woman that's like pulling forward from like the back ranks. And usually when you're watching Bachelor, you kind of have like your top four throughout.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Well, he sent Natalie home and like one of them like he was like one of her tops, one of his tops last week. Then it's like he brought the rocks and stuff for Paris after having the cute chubby bunny date and gave her the date rose and then she went home. So it's just like it's kind of hard to like navigate which which way he's going with things.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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runners and then it was like even last week with the the conference or this week with the confrontation with carolina i was like oh no up until they sat and talked and then i was like okay here's the chemistry again but i her not getting a one-on-one i was kind of shocked by that i was like what is happening i thought she was your front runner it's only week four your real front runner usually gets their one-on-one week five usually i think juliana gets a one-on-one next week we have parisa to uh give us a little bit of insider baseball let's bring her up well welcome to the show

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Yeah. No, I'm doing great. It was, not going to lie, kind of unexpected in the moment. But, you know, after getting home and reflecting on everything, like, you know, like...

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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you know, throughout my journey. And, um, this mindset was don't get involved in drama. You know, you're not here for that. Just stay separated and just keep like, just stay focused on this journey of like, you know, being in the moment, you're growing a relationship with Grant and exploring, you know, seeing where this is going and you don't need any distractions. And so, um,

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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After doing some reflection on everything, I feel like I dropped the ball this last week in Madrid with getting involved in drama.

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E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I regret getting involved and just kind of allowing it to get into my mind space.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I think... Throughout the whole time, as you've seen, I'm always in the back with biting my lips, not speaking up, the drama that was happening throughout the season. This last week in Madrid, I kind of couldn't take it anymore with just the negativity and the constant back and forth. I interjected myself in more conversation regarding... you know, the drama that was happening.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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And I kind of allowed it to get into my headspace. And so I was kind of just focused on that that week and not as focused on, you know, what I'll be bringing to my conversations with Grant, what I want to talk about with him, what I want him to know about me. And so I just kind of allowed it to get into just like my headspace. And it just was very, it just distracted me.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Oh, no, of course I have those rocks. it was still like, it was such an amazing journey and it was so fun. And especially too, like in Madrid, like our group date and my time with him, um, they're all like wonderful memories that I'll have forever. Especially the rock, especially the rocks.

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E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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You know, you know, um, I wasn't there, you know, when the notes were being shared between them. So I'm not entirely sure specifically what was said between them. Um, but I feel like we all just kind of need to read in between the lines and understand too, that not everything is shown. It's kind of the tip of the iceberg of what is being shown. Could you elaborate?

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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We all, especially in the beginning of this journey, we're all sharing notes with each other. We're all talking about our time with them. People I've maybe viewers don't know, but like, we don't have any communication outside with our friends and family. So we're

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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It's the same like, you know, when you go on a date and, you know, like at home, when you go on a date, you come home, you tell your best friends everything. And we don't have that. So we are confiding in each other. We're talking about our moments with him. And I feel like we all know and expect that. everyone's going to be having their little individual moments with him.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Like this is what we signed up for. So I don't know. I feel like none of this needed to happen.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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Oh yeah. And I feel like it's known to when we all talk to each other, we're all like inviting in each other. And I feel like it, just known like if I'm doing that, like I can trust or I mean, I hope to trust that they're not going to turn around and go talk about it with him. Definitely. Yeah. It brought a lot of negativity to the house and it was tough.

The Viall Files

E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I personally like looking back at everything. I, I don't, believe it was intentional and like it was just it was a domino effect.

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E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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These actions did have an effect on how much time we had with Grant following, you know, her confronting him because it did, you know, it took up other girls time that they would have had with him.

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E886 - Traitors & SNL50 w/ Cazzie David, Love Is Blind w/ Dave, Summer House Premiere & Valentine's Day

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I feel like you just you need You need to be respectful. And I kept saying, too, I started to notice it's truly if you focus on the quality of your time with Grant rather than the quantity, like how many times you take them, how long you're with them, then I feel like you do set yourself up for success.

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I just sat back for the most part, watched everything. And, you know, I could see with some people again, like there's no point in confronting them. There's no point to say anything because it's not going to, it's just going to be a back and forth game and it's not going to fix any problems.

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And so I never was like motivated really to just confront, you know, some people throughout this journey because of that reason.

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Yeah. I feel like I had a moment, I think it was last week's episode when she got back from her date, my approach was to ask questions, to have her answer them. And there just wasn't really a great exchange there. Like it, she, it just seemed like she, you know, she just wasn't really looking for help or a solution in that moment, which is totally okay. Sometimes people just need to vent.

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This was, yeah, during that conversation. It was just more just like asking, like, you know, like, how do you feel? And when she would say certain things, like, well, how did that make you feel in that moment? Did you say this to Grant? Does he know? So just like questions like that, just to kind of like talk her through it. And I wasn't really just, I wasn't getting responses.

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But that was enough for me to be like, you know, We're going to let her work this out again. Like I don't want to get sucked in. When I was there, I used this analogy. I related everything to like playing Mario cart when you play like multiplayer Mario cart. And so, you know, you have like four, like your screen split up into like four different screens and everyone's in this race.

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If you take your eyes off your race for one second and you look at to see where someone else is in the race, You might crash, you might hit the wall, you might like run over a banana and like that throws you off then the race you're on. And, you know, and it's it takes one second to just glimpse over to see where someone else is at to lose your place in the race.

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And I just kept relating it to that. I'm like, OK, like put my blinders up, just focus on my screen. Like this is not going to help me, obviously, in my connection with Grant. This isn't going to help me at all. So like, let's just get back into my lane.

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I mean, the women of Summer House very much band together and it's nice. I don't know.

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During your journey, what was your favorite moment with Grant?

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I have a couple. So one of them wasn't shown, but it was a really good moment. It was after the basketball date. I kept goofing around on the court. I was like, teach me like a free throw. Teach me how to make a basket because I've never played basketball before. And I would kept joking.

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I'm like, oh, like I'll teach you how to play soccer because like soccer has always been a sport I played my whole life. And I was going to look for him to steal him for my time. And he was like, come with me. And then we walked out to the front and he set up these two soccer nets. And he had a soccer ball waiting there. And it was just the cutest thing. We played like 1v1. And it was so funny.

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I'm in heels. And I'm like, no, no, no. These heels are coming off. Like you were playing a real game. I loved that. And then the rocks too. When he gave me the rocks after our group date, that was very meaningful.

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If I get asked, I really am looking for a husband. I'm not having any luck. And I heard the success rate is very high. Very good there.

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I guess it's higher than... It could definitely happen. It definitely is higher. Yeah. And, like, you see some of those success stories, too. I mean, currently, I mean, for me right now, it's Hannah and Dylan. Like, that is very... That's inspiring. Yeah. Caitlin and Dean. Yeah.

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Bye. Bye. Well, she seemed lovely and I wish her well. Maybe we'll see her in paradise.

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Jesse's face was everything. No, I do love it because it's kind of like when Jersey Shore did that with Snooki, I think was pregnant during and you're just kind of like, so how is this going to go?

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Well, my argument to that was even when West and Jesse were talking about, like, sharing a bedroom and... Sierra.

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But, like, isn't this, like, the problem with people in general? Like, how somebody chooses to, like, be a mother if they go away for a weekend? That doesn't mean that they're negligent to their child. A weekend? It's every weekend. That's what I'm saying. She might not be there every weekend.

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I was going to say, all the girls are in bed by 1030 that are her age. So I'm also kind of like, it's not like Paige and everyone are like, get in the car and let's go to Hamptons.

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Someone whose mom is a Spice Girl and whose dad is one of the best soccer players in the entire world.

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I mean, right now, yeah, I'm more focused on Jesse being obsessed with Lexi than I am about Lexi at the moment.

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From the show, it seemed like Sierra was more mad about West's press tour, is what it seemed like to me on the show. Yeah, doing the whole New York Times.

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I didn't see a makeup, but I'm just like, Jessie, it pays her all of the compliments, tells her how hot she is, like whatnot. That's just part of Jessie's personality. And I also feel like Lexi probably thinks that Jessie's fully committed to something that he's not, but he's also just like a playful person.

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He does think she may be ditzy, potentially. He does think she may be ditzy.

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I do feel like whatever's going to happen is going to be based off of Jesse's actions and not clarifying things, and somehow it's going to end up Lexi and Sierra are fighting because of Jesse's actions never having to take responsibility for being in the middle of it. And that's exactly kind of Wes's shit. Wes takes zero accountability for what he did leading Sierra on.

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Because Lexi is going to be upset with Sierra based off of Jesse's actions. And Sierra is going to take the brunt of it because that's what fucking happens. It's going to be the two women pit against each other when Jesse, all Jesse has to say is, oh, I'm not that serious about you. Or I'm just messing around with my friend.

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But it's going to be two girls fighting over the miscommunication based off of one man.

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I think she was mad that he said that publicly. And it seemed like he said it publicly, but he didn't say it to her.

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What did Paige say about it? She was just like, Lindsay, I love her.

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And was it Paige that was like, you can go up there and ask her. Amanda goes, I dare you to go ask her right now. And then he does.

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They're all great. I'm just meeting these people and I like all of them very much. Yeah, they're all great.

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Yes. I don't think anything will affect Jesse. I think Lexi will have a complex.

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yeah, stop thinking about yourself and take a step back and look at what your wife needs.

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Stamina. Even then, my favorite is that he only came home like 10 minutes before the next taxi. That was really- You all should have coordinated.

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They're not there for her. Literally, that's what I said. You can't win. Exactly. But that's how you win the game.

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No, I think he's trying to just like... I don't know. I think he feels like the love of his life he let go with Taylor. And I think he's trying to like overcompensate with this new relationship, acting like he has his shit together. And I did ayahuasca. Now I'm a healed person. And now I know what love is.

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Really did. And then I'm like, yeah, the fact that like going to another country to go see your partner and them not being at the airport for you. Like, that tells you everything you need to know.

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Yeah, I know. So I'm going to see you downstairs? Woof. That was crazy.

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I also think him being forced to cut back on his drinking based off of BravoCon and his friends not talking to him anymore... I think that he can no longer mask his bad behavior with his drinking or going out or blaming it on that. So it's also kind of like, yeah, you're now being forced to like look at yourself. What do you prioritize?

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Unfortunately, now you're prioritizing the relationship Taylor wanted with you with a girl who literally wants nothing to do with you.

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You know? Had I known then what I know now, and it's just like, unfortunately, Sienna's not the one. But also, it kind of seemed like Taylor was a lot more interested about Shep's and Sienna's relationship than I would be. I definitely wouldn't be calling my grandmother discussing it.

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And we are in Bahamas. So if you need a shoulder to cry on in a bikini, it could be Molly. And Molly's really cool.

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I don't know, but I was just saying. Molly just wants to play. She wants to listen to music. She wants to play her horn.

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I feel like this is kind of like the final shove the dagger in. It's like, bro, you can't even.

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He's a mailbox money kid though so that's where I'm also kind of like he can like start a bar tomorrow and if it fails no worries but if he does great just more money coming into his mailbox from his family.

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There's an entire town that they were just in earlier for the derby that's named after his like great great grandfather or some shit.

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And she's claimed that her grandmother was the biggest fan of Southern Charm, and somehow she ends up matching with Whitney and Shep, but she went on Instagram claiming that she didn't know who either of these people were.

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Sure, that's what it is. Yeah, it's like, was it- Serafina. Was it Serafina in The Bachelor was like, when she was like, I'm not not interested in you. My mom just like is watching this show and I feel weird kissing in front of her.