Oz Pearlman
Appearances
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Parks, he didn't write anything. He didn't say anything. He didn't do anything. He didn't whisper.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Well, now at least I understand it. I like the way Ice came into this thinking we're going to get this guy.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'll leave that in the back. That's a hanging thread.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And the best trick is I made Flip disappear in the middle.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Best way to find out where I'm going to be is my
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
socials it looks like Oz so everybody blame my parents Israeli name but it looks like Oz so it's at O-Z the mentalist but it's O so it sounds like somebody owes you money at O's the mentalist it's you know Instagram Twitter TikTok Facebook everything but typically you're going to see me a lot on TV I have a lot of things coming up a lot of sports teams I do a lot of stuff with CNBC so finance Nabisco Nabisco yeah all the big corporate companies come on corporate money and then yeah you know what just working on a bunch of new fun things
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I got a book coming out at the end of the year. Yes, and the book is coming out at the end of the year. The book is going to be, the book is not, I'm not going to teach you to do this. Oh, damn it. That's what I was about to ask. 49th Law of Power? Yeah.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So honestly, it's a lens of, here's the key is, you can see what I do, how to read people more effectively, but it's for the sake of entertainment. But what if you could take some of these skills, right, these principles of mentalism, apply them to your everyday life, you know, in relationships, at work. Like knowing when's the right time to go to your boss and ask for that raise.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
What's your right moment? How do you remember things better? How can you get inside other people's heads? It's going to be better for negotiations. Know if people are lying to you. Just tips and tricks that are very useful.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I hope not. Publisher needs to go get big. Jesus. I'm buying that book.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Flip, look at me. Think you're Social Security? ATM? No, I'm telling you.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, with Kenny.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I like to run and run like marathons, ultra marathons. I was out running. Right before that was going on, I was in Pittsburgh because they were playing the Steelers. I was running 20 miles, and at mile 18, I figured out how I was going to finish that trick because I didn't know how to end it. I didn't know how it would end at the end. It came to me, and it was an hour later.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
We did that for Josh Allen. So sometimes, man, serendipitous.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I've heard varying counts on that one, but he didn't even blame the tiger. Because I guess if the tigers, again, I don't want to misspeak here, but those tigers have certain rules where you can't do certain things. Like chimpanzees. You know chimpanzees, if they see you feed another chimp and not them, they'll tear you to shreds. I did not know that. Yeah, they will.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
There's big things where food, you can't bring food in with chimps. And those chimps are so strong, they can rip you limb from limb.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You ever see that person who got their face ripped off? Horrific. So with the tigers, I think there's certain things where they don't think they're biting you. Cause think a tiger that big, if they even play bite you, like my dog bites me, he's 10 pounds, nothing. A tiger play bites you, you're dead.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So my understanding is something happened that I don't know what it was, but it was like some sort of thing that was a cardinal rule that you don't do. And he didn't know, like he knows how to deal with tigers, but something happened where he didn't blame him. Like he did something wrong where he had a smell on him or something weird. And that they found out afterwards. And that was pretty,
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
What a reference, though, Joe. Siegfried and Roy. Throwback.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yo, I believe that 100%. You know, crows remember faces. Yeah. They did a thing with crows where like if one of these people like- You throw something at them. Yeah, they remember you. They're going to shit right on your head.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yo, they have a language. They're very smart.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
We do trivia with my kids, and this is here. Make this podcast entertaining and educational. Do you know what a group of crows is called?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
A group of crows called a murder. Yeah.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Gotta play murder with the blacks. Yo, it's that bullshit. No, no, no.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I don't think... I mean, I think that on a deeper level, but not like the mentalism thing, because the mentalism thing is really... It's a set of skills. So it's really... It's kind of like...
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
psychology influencing people, there's this... It's really... If you think about a chef, you know how a chef has... Let's say you got chicken, you got fish, you got steak, you got all these ingredients, I got sauces. I can make all these recipes. So when I come up with my stuff, I have different ways to do certain things, and then it's kind of like jazz, kind of like that chop show.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You give me this, you give me that, I'm going to whip up a recipe. So right now, I don't always know what's going to happen when I walked in this room, but I kind of started leaning into things that would work, and things that didn't work, I moved away from. So it's kind of like... it's really true like playing jazz.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I didn't come in here, you saw me walk in, you're like, how's this guy gonna pull this off? We're in a living room, how could you do this? There's no setup, there's no staging. For my bigger show, it's a little more of a production. But I think the mentalism is something that's a series of steps that you can learn to do. That's kind of what the whole book's all about.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That's more like a spiritual question, but I think there's definitely some energy and something to do with the planet, and I don't know how to tap into that. I mean, what do you think of ayahuasca? Have you done that?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Oh, you mentioned it to me, so I've heard wild stories from people.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
The best, the way you see how good you get at this is that people don't know when you're wrong. So that's the real art is that, what if I told you that in this room, I had more than one thing wrong, but you didn't ever see it because I just pivoted around or moved around. It's kind of like, just like duck and wings, like Floyd Mayweather. Doesn't get hit, but does he make mistakes? Sure.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So in my show, there's things that didn't go right. Like yesterday I was on TV and I guarantee you something went very wrong, but I worked around it so quickly, you didn't notice. I noticed, you didn't.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Getting stuff like wrong, like just boom, like you just guess something totally wrong and then you're stuck is very difficult on live TV because if there's no more time to get out of it, then you're stuck in a corner and the worst thing is if the last thing is wrong. But it happens.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, but I didn't, I didn't just say, I'm going to guess the name. I figured out a letter and then I got, it came together.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
If you notice that it's not a, it's actually truly like some of you will just tell me right now what it is. I'm like, I don't know it yet. Like I got to figure it out. It's like a puzzle. It's a puzzle.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It's wheel of fortune. Only I can put together letters before Vanna White turns them around.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Hold on, hold on. Last name. Sounds the same. It's like a rhyming. Isn't it? Dovey? Dovey? Dove? Don't tell me that's it, son.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Ever, yes, please. Unless we need some information. The only other place you're going to see me is Flip in his nightmares. Leave me alone.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm going around the circle. High fives down the line.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Olds Perlman in the building. Thank you, Joe Budden. Thank you, gentlemen.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That is a good question. Magician. A liar. No. I mean, it's a mentalist on paper. You ask my wife, I'm just mental. But here's what everybody knows, what a magician is, right? Everybody knows in their mind, you think a magician, you think card tricks, you might think David Blaine, David Copperfield. You started with the card tricks. I love card tricks. I love card tricks.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Trust me, I love card tricks. That was a start. The evolution is now I can do the tricks, but I don't need any props. It's just in your mind. So it's magic of the mind. It's kind of like the next level. You've seen a lot of magicians. You haven't seen me. So it's kind of where I no longer need props. You could drop me off in front of 5,000 people. It's just me. The show is me.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I don't need bunnies. I don't need boxes. No sleight of hand and that type of stuff? I could still do it. Don't get me wrong. But it's not what I do anymore. Got it.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I have a few publicists. I guess so.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Nice. Jets fan? No. Giants, but I watched it. Everyone's like, why didn't you tell us we were having Aaron Rodgers if you're that good? Yeah.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
same thing happened to him yo you should see how much hate i got for the for the jets one oh no i mean when when rogers went down in the first play you know the first the first drive and everyone's like predict that oh it's the mentalist what the hell yeah you know but that looks real the reactions look real oh it's all real i feel like this gift has to come from a dark place
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, I got lucky on my timelines. 1600s. I wouldn't be here with you. I would have been first show and burned at the stake. So it's a gift, but I would describe it as, you know, you have a gift for music, right? And so certain people have that, certain people don't. They could train their whole life.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It's either in you, whether you said God gave it to you or came in you somehow, but you can get better at it. So I think anyone could do what I'm doing in a way. They could learn some of the mentalism stuff, but will they get good enough at it to do it at this level? I mean, that's probably a no. Otherwise, there'd be more people. But it's kind of a trained talent.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It's an innate talent that you could train. It's kind of like sports. You think everybody, Aaron Rodgers, you think that's all talent? No, that's hard work. That's like decades and decades of working your butt off, outworking the person next to you. I outwork my competition at what I do. That's a fact. At what age did you first realize, hey, I got something?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I see the belt shake a little. I'm like, that belt's about to come off. And that's one with a buckle, too. That's no good. No good. If my dad hears this, you are not beating me. Not beating me. A couple of good slaps. I think back in the day, a couple of good slaps set you straight. Put the fear of God in me. Things have changed now. Oh, my Lord.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So from when you were, let's just say, 10, 12 years old. So I have really good intuition. I'll tell you a really unusual story that I can't explain. But my mom, I have twin sisters that are older than me, fraternal. And then when I was a kid, this is a real weird story. I always kept having to make believe like an imaginary friend. I said, I have a twin.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I have a twin because I was so obsessed with them having twins. And then when I was 12, my mom told me, you did have a twin who died at birth. And it's a true story. She never told me. They know how to tell me that I was a twin also. And I was born in Israel. It was during a war in Lebanon. And it was kind of all the doctors were in a different location. It was, you know, at birth, the twin died.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And it was this weird thing where I'm like, I always knew that. And it freaked me out. And until she told me, it never clicked. And so I always had very good intuition. I'm not psychic. I don't believe that I'm psychic. It's not supernatural. But there's intuitive things that I don't care... where you are spiritually, you've had experiences where you're like, how did I know that?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Everyone knows that, but we always say, nah, that wasn't real. But if you can tap into that, there's instinct. So a lot of the time when I'm on TV and you see things and people go, it's fake, I love when haters go, it's fake in comments. That's the best compliment you can give me. Like, have you seen the Joe Burrow clip? Yes. Joe Burrow clip's probably the most popular. Have you seen that one?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I haven't. Here, should I tell you real quick? Sure. Yeah, yeah, tell them. I'm at the Bengals facility. I go in there with ESPN. Shout out to my man, Adam Schefter. And we go in there. They tell us right off the bat, Joe Burrow's not going to be involved. He's shy. He's a good dude, but he's shy. It's not his fault. And he goes, he doesn't really want to be involved.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And they go, don't even call on him. Nothing. I go in there. Let me do what I do. I get in there and I warm them up. I start freaking out. I'm in the team. He's a team leader. So I get them fired up. Should we get Joe in here? They go, yeah, yeah. And Joe stands up. I have not spoken a word to Joe on the lives of my kids and my wife. And Adam Schefter went on air and told everybody.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Pat McAfee's like, did you ever talk to him before? Dude, he didn't talk. They didn't even say he could use him in the show. I've never talked to this man a word in my life before I tell him to stand up. And I say, look around this room. All my eligible receivers stand up.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Everyone stand up. You know, full depth chart. I say, look at the room, look at me. I write down, I'm huge, and I show the camera, throw the ball anywhere you want. Bam, first person he throws to, nailed it. Everyone's like, you know, did he get lucky? I go, double or nothing. Same thing, look at it, throws it to another guy, nailed it. Third time, he fakes to Jamar.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So Jamar, and then he throws to another guy. Boom, exactly the play I call. He goes nuts, and you see like Joe Burrow who doesn't react, like, watch the video later. Yeah.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So when you ask me, that is something that I waited two years to do, that I was figuring out how I would do it, what he would do, what would happen, how do you, you know when you walk in a maze, what makes you turn left, what makes you turn right? I know if you're gonna turn right, I know if you were about to turn left, we're gonna turn right and then decide to go left at the end.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I was in his head more than he was.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It sounds like it would be a hindrance, really. Not enough, let me tell you. Married 12 years, my powers are only for good now. So yeah, unfortunately, these skills are wasted. You know what I was? In college, it didn't help me. It helped all my friends because I was the ultimate wingman. They're like, let's get you over here. Yeah, yeah, girls, come on over. I line them up.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Then I move out of the way. My boys are like, yo, that's my guy right there. And then they go in for the kill. It's better than your thumb.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Back in my day. At first, they would be nice about it. They're like, I'll buy you a beer. Then they're like, dude, just come do tricks for these girls. I'm like, what is this?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Sure. But it's really one of those games where there's not much competition in this because there's so few of us and there's so much demand. And the more people do this, like it's bringing awareness. If you were to talk to people two, three years ago, I think a lot of people in this country would be like, what's a mentalist?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And now because of all the sports clips and all these things, it's hit like that level of you're hearing about it more, you know it, and it's kind of defined a genre, right?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Rising tides lift all ships. I got a lot of buddies who were kind of me five, ten years ago, and they're getting a lot of these things because people hear about them. They call me. They can't afford me. They're like, let's take that. I can only be one place at a time. Something fell. I did that with my mind. Sorry. Yo, yo, yo.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Don't start shaking up Corey, man. Flip might need a change of underwear right now. Flip's the one who said it was devil magic and he just shit his pants. I didn't say nothing, man.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
He's got a bottle of holy water in his pants ready.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I don't know. That's a great question. Listen, I'm just trying to always innovate. So I keep getting opportunities and I keep trying to do new things. You're kicking ass. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. And just kind of do new things that excite me because it's kind of one of those things where, again, great parallel to music. I love comedians. I love musicians. Just things that excite me.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And I love watching people. who they try and do something where it's not necessarily for other people. You do something that makes you excited. The best songs are always ones you didn't try to make a hit. You just did something that was real and authentic and then people connect with it.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That's what I keep doing where I like to do things where if I'm excited about what I'm doing in the room, other people love it. Like the football, what's the number one thing I would want to do? Bam, you're... With the quarterback, tell me who he's going to throw the ball to, right? That's a billion-dollar question. So that's what I did. I said, how could I pull that off?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That's what I'm doing now still.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, listen. I'm talking about when you were trying to guess lotto numbers. Oh, I was hustling since I was 13 years old. So I started doing this when I was 13. At 14, I walked half a mile from my house in Farmington Hills, Michigan, got a restaurant job where I was this little four foot nothing guy doing card tricks to people that were like, what do you want from me right now?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And that was the school of hard knocks for me. That's literally how I learned to approach people, win people over and start kind of getting inside their head. Do you play the lottery? So I can't win the lottery, true story, because what I do has nothing to do with random odds. Does that make sense? No, but it's not. Got it. A psychic could tell you they could know the future. Uh-huh.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So, like, for example, I'm trying to predict the final four. Yesterday I was on CBS. If you didn't see with Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, great clip. I don't know if this is going to air. And we sealed right there. It's not my bracket. I told them straight up, I'm not going to get a bracket right. That's impossible. Yeah.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
But to get the final four is not actually as hard as you think. To get the final four is about one in, I think it's 12,000. Because you're probably going to get a sleeper. There's going to be a Cinderella. No, but think about it. It's four out of 64. It's not that tough, right? And most years, most years, it's one or two one seeds, right? So like statistically, I'm telling you, it's not crazy.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
But to get the Elite Eight.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
guess who wins and get the final four is one out of 25 million at least wow so i don't know that i'm gonna get it right i'll tell you right here right now everyone's like are you gonna bet on it hell yeah i'm betting on it i guess kenny smith's pin code i said i'm betting on with your money kenny so uh that's something where it's not a trick that's where i'm hoping i get it right and i might get one or two wrong but like it's kind of like i've guessed superbowls i've gotten four out of five last five years but i don't i didn't get every year i can't it's not psychic
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I don't know the lottery. That's still pretty good numbers. But if you guys were picking the lottery numbers, if you were picking lottery numbers instead of a machine, I bet I could get it.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I mean, there's a couple people in the biz that are... There's so few of us that are a little more, how would I describe it, competitive in that sense.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
But quite frankly, like, I have people... It's probably the same way as... If you think of comedians who kind of run jokes by each other to punch it up, you know how they do that? Like, give me another tag, do this. Features on songs, anything like that. I have other people that are really smart thinkers where we bounce ideas off each other and I just go, what do you think of this? How we do this?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And we just kind of, I don't ideate. Like when I'm doing a lot of stuff for TV, I got to come up with new things and I have people that I think about it with. I like to run a lot. I go running and I come up with stuff.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Aren't all the best things in life? Yeah, I mean, it looks... That's kind of like the... You know when you see those divers do eight flips and land perfectly, no splash? It looks so easy. You go do that, belly flop. So it looked easy. It looked easy. It looked like it was spur of the moment. It is spur of the moment as far as they're concerned, but for me...
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
There were hundreds of hours put into the preparation into how that would play out. Every possible situation in that room I kind of accounted for.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You know what? If you go in there, you cheat, they kick you out, and then you're blacklisted, so I've heard from other people. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I need you for Baccarat. He's like, let's go right now. You know what? Let's try something fun. We'll do a little performance later, but this is what I want Flip to do, because he's freaked out at me, is...
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I could go get a deck of cards. I'm not going to do that. I'm not doing that again. But picture this in your hands. Pretend you're holding a deck of cards. Right? And do some fancy moves. For the listeners, pretend to do fancy moves. Pretend you're shuffling them. See some acting flip.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, he's got the artificial intelligence hands. This is what would make it interesting. Imagine that, you know what? You just drop a few on the ground. A few just dropped. And you make a little mess. It doesn't matter. Don't mess up the mic. And you dropped a few more. And then we look down at the deck, all these cards, and we count them. And I count the deck.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
52, yes. But when I count... Cheater. He's only got 51. Because Flip put one in his pocket, right? You know what I'm saying? He's got one spot. Hold up, hold up. I want you, watch. Don't tell me that card that's in your pocket. You're imagining it right now. Think in your mind, red, black. Don't say anything. Red, black. Think hearts, diamonds, club, spades. Hearts, diamonds, club, spades.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm telling you. You're making me jump in here. Chill out. You'll be honest, right? If I guess this right. Look this way. Ace, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, jack, queen, king. Ace, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, jack, queen, king. You imagined one card. You took it out. You put it in your pocket.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You didn't really put it in your pocket, but you pretended to. That's what I told you to do. Black card, spades. It was a king of spades, wasn't it? You can't hear him right now, but he's freaking out. It was a king of spades.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It was a king of spades. Yes, it was a king of spades. Don't hold the reaction in right now.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I didn't give it to you.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That was a card he picked? From earlier? It was a King of Spades. King of Spades? Where he put it in his pocket? Oh, my God.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Let's say he's imagining a card. Okay. We got an empty chair right there. You see it? The listener can't see, but we got Park right here, right? But right there's an empty chair. Mm-hmm. and you get to fill in that chair, okay? You're going to do it in your mind. I was going to take your phone out and get a photo, but no, no, I don't even want it. I want it in your head.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Somebody's sitting right there, and you know what you're doing? You're on the edge of your seat. You've got questions lined up, and I make this exciting, because normally I would think of somebody alive, but dead or alive, man, woman, whatever, somebody that you have not, hold on, if you look over there, I don't want to put you on the spot.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Do you know what question you would ask this person or you're not even sure yet? I'm not even sure of the question yet. Okay, you're not even sure of the person. All right, hold on.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You've got to be under pressure. You think you know? His person? Yeah.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Here's what I do. I've got a pad of paper and a marker. Don't say the name that you think it is because you know him. We just met, what, when I walked in the door?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
How many letters are in this person's first name that you think he picked? That I think? That you think he picked. Just tell me the number of letters. Oh, don't say it. See, I just watched his face. No, no. I don't want you to say. I could tell just by looking right there at Ice's face that he was wrong. It's not six letters, is it? No, it's not six letters.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You got it wrong. Good try, though.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Stick to your day job. No.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
The listener who, you know, the person in the comments going to be like, stayed, scripted, did, before I walked in this room, had we ever spoken a word in our life? No. Is there any, did I tell you who you would have to pick? Did I some way say, you got to go, come on, do this. I'll slip you a hundred. Nothing, right?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
He could have thought of anybody.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
All right. He going to get it wrong. We got this. Look how he's got his arms locked around.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
No, the body language is clear. You got hands crossed and legs crossed. That's a hundred percent a dude vibe. It's a guy. I know you picked a guy. If it was a woman, you got to spread them out a little more. You know what I'm saying? You can't be that tight. You can't be that tight. You got to give them room to breathe.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That's a guy with the pelvis.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
When you said six to him, you know what I saw? It's too much. Name's shorter. Ice, close your eyes. Mm-hmm.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I don't want to show you. Are your eyes closed?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
My eyes are closed. Folks, don't say this out loud. Don't say this out loud. Everyone in the room get a peek. If you guys saw it, say yeah.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So everybody knows. Has everyone, all of you say yeah if you just saw what I wrote down?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Ice, ice, open your eyes. Someone sitting right in that chair. It's only in your brain. You're seeing him right there in that chair. Anyone, anyone has said, who's sitting in that chair? Tell us. I don't want to say it, though.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
No, no, you sitting there thinking about me.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Look, Park's all nervous over there now. Look at this guy's ass. I'm not nervous.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Almost 20 years, right? Yeah. Not quite. So, you know, you lose your bank card. They call you up and they go, Parks, how do we know you're really you and not the guy who stole the card? Right? So they say, what's your mom's maiden name? But hear me out. Mom's maiden name, they don't say that anymore because my mom's on Facebook. You want to know who my mom is? She likes every photo.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
She comments that. She's my number one fan. So. That's not a good question. What I like to ask people is ask me a question that nobody would know. Even your boy from 17 years, he's not going to know this. True. Okay? So when I walked in this room, full transparency, I walked up to Parks, I said, come up with a question. Don't say it to anybody. Don't write this question down. Don't nothing.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Think of a question that none of us would know. Yeah. There is no way in the world I could know what that question is, could I?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, that's a big part. I'm talking about even what question you're going to ask. It's not Mother's Maid name, is it? No. Of course not. If you ask the question out loud, you put it out in the universe, could any of us know the answer? No. Okay, what's the question?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
No more. Don't say anything more. Imagine you're in front of a keyboard. But with computer, different than thumbs is texting. Put your hands like on a keyboard right now in front of you. You got uncrossed your legs.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I want you to imagine that you type the answer. You don't have to actually move your fingers. You just got to think about it. Okay. All right, look what he did. I saw it. See, why did I position him like that? I like how Flip is still shook up from before. You see this? He's like, how did you know he was the king of spades? All right. You tapped your thumb once. Uh-huh. What's on a keyboard?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Everyone take a moment.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Space bar. Space bar-ish. Boom. You did that? In between two words. It's two words, isn't it? The answer is two words.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
What are you going, yeah, two words. How would I have known that? He acted like that was normal. All right, hold on.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Of course it's two words.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
All right. Don't handle your brethren. Which word is more interesting to you? The first one or the second one or you don't care?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
All right. Think of either word. You do it. Okay. You thought of the second word?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
No? Yeah, Parks. Oh, good. I like his movement around. See, he's the opposite. He does the opposite. He looks this way when he looks that way. He's kind of, watch, now we'll figure him out. You're thinking of the first word then. Pick any letter in the first word. Don't tell him which one. All the letters in front of you, boom.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You grab one out and you take that letter like it's a Scrabble tile and you can hold it in your hand. Can you see that letter?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So what he did is he looked at the first letter because his eyes went to the left. That's the first letter. We read left to right. But he does the opposite. You didn't think of the first letter, did you? No. See, he did that to look to throw me off. Come on. Who are you talking to right now?
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I think you jumped and then you grabbed one. And I thought it was like right near the middle. It wasn't in the middle. It's not the last letter, is it either? No. N. Are you thinking of an N? I am. You are. Holy shit, Parker. See that? That's real talk right there. He just thought of a letter. I knew it was an N. It sounded like an M in my mind.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Is there, on a scale of one to ten, you've seen all the stuff I've done, but this is for you. You called me out. Ten is impossible. Impossible. Where does this fall for you? Eight. How do we make it a ten? Hold on, I got it. I got the second word. Yo, Parks, if you let him make it to 10 right now.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, you had Nate for the first word. But when I go right there and I wrote this. You better not. You want me to show you or you want me to just say it to you? Say it. Yeah? Yeah. Your boy's here. You see him. You're nine years old. You're high five. Bing chow. How the fuck did you get that?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Joe, you got me good. Joe, have you written down a thing? Have you written down anything? Have you whispered something to somebody? Have you said anything to anyone in this room?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So... When I walked in here, again, we had like one minute before I came on air, and we mentioned something interesting, which is the fact that yesterday I had somebody think of someone that had passed away, and I shared that with you. It was like it was a weird thing at a show, and they said, this person, are they alive and dead?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm like, I think they're dead because it's just their body language. And you told me you had thought of someone a few days ago where you were going through your phone, and they popped up, and it was someone who passed away. Is that right? Yeah. I'm not guessing that person. Nothing to do. You shared that information with me.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So I don't want people to think later, oh, he told them, so he's using it. But that's something weird which just popped in your head. Something just popped in your head that you weren't expecting. And I said to you, think of someone in your phone that you have not talked to in a while. Literally, you have not talked to this person in a while. Hasn't been the last day or two. Otherwise, too recent.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You might have just said their name on the podcast. Guy or girl. And I want you to think of that person. And then what if we called them right now? What if we called them right now, put them on air, everyone heard it, and you said to them,
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
a word two words three words like something a phrase something that they would understand and none of us would get like bing chow can you close your eyes close your eyes and think of what you would say to them a man tell you close your eyes your first thought is to pucker up was it tell me it was two words right oh yeah two words open your eyes Notice your body language earlier. Ice was tight.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You went open. I think it's a female. You were thinking of a female. Am I right?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm going to train her. She's like, look at him. Joe, you think of another girl?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Do you call her by her name or a nickname?
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Perfect. That's good.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Sorry, dog. That was solid. Solid. Pick a letter. You know what? Same thing I did Parks. Pick a letter. Here's her name or her nickname, God-given name, maybe her... Pick a letter already, bro.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
See that? Yeah. Felt like more than one. Probably more than one. Bitch. The letter. The letter you just thought of. There's more than one of it in the name, isn't there? There's more than one. There's more than one. It's like Michelle with two L's. I saw it. I looked at two of them. Okay, probability. You're doing a probability. I'm not doing probability.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And you're thinking of me. My name's a weird one. O's. O-Z. Z. You thought of a Z, didn't you? I did think of a Z. And it sounds like the word jazzma. Jazzma. Is that her name? Fuck.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
He was going to call her on the phone. He was going to call her on the phone. And he said he was going to tell her two words. Oh, shit. Yeah, two words. Two words.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Was he going to say a place? That was my first instinct was he was going to tell her a place. Why was it a place? But now he's looking away. No, it's not a place. I'm view. Oh, shit. Do they know Jasmine? Y'all know Jasmine?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I think he knows her through someone. I think it's not a place. He knows it's through someone. Somebody connected. Somebody. You don't talk to her. You know her. You're someone else. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. Two words.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
You go in another room. In another room. You know what? You said it's my pen. This is a pen. I don't care what. I don't want to write it because people can't hear it when we're on there. What if you write this down somewhere or you don't want to write it? I wrote it. No, you're not writing anything. There's nothing here. How could I reveal this? I don't want to show anything visual.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I don't want to just say it. Think of the first word. It's a guy. Somebody who knows the two of you. Two words. Is it a first and last name? Common ones. Yo, Michael Paul.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
God damn. I've never heard Joe Budden this quiet in my whole life.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
My book's coming out this year. My book's coming out later this year.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
What happens when my daughters become teenagers? They're going to be in a lot of trouble. That's true. Yeah, that's a good point.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Mine's always racing. You know, I'm always thinking. But I think that's like anybody. It's kind of ADHD. I'm always thinking stuff. I'm always watching stuff. But it's a switch. It's not like it's with me all the time. I've got to focus to do it. You see what I'm saying? It's kind of, you've got to turn it on.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm fine with it.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It would go down that path a little bit, but no, I still enjoy it.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I try to turn off the mentalist stuff when I'm in day-to-day for the sake of your mind not racing. It's kind of like revving an engine. It takes a lot of focus to do it. Do you ignore it at times?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, it's good when you're interviewing people or negotiating. Negotiating, yeah. They don't stand a chance. No chance.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I've never done ayahuasca, but I mean, I'm all for it. I've got a bunch of buddies that have done it, and I think psychedelics are a... Have you ever done mushrooms or any psychedelic at all? I've done psychedelics, yeah, for sure. Okay. I've had some of my best ideas on it. I was about to say, does it heighten your existing gift? You want to hear a funny story?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I mean, it's a great story, so... This was in Amsterdam before weed was legal. I'm not a big cannabis guy, but like, I don't know, just not back in the day, high school, different story. I'm in Amsterdam and there's tricks that I would do that were magic tricks, not like this, even though this stuff will freak you out too, but I would do tricks that were designed specifically for stoners.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
back then and I had a car trip easy work easy work but there's ones that really mess with you so in Amsterdam there's a guy I meet them and this is before weed was legal here you know you go to Amsterdam I was on a layover it's a big deal to go to like Bulldog Cafe and smoke and I meet this group where one dude's on mushrooms and he's really tripping hard
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And I walk up to him and we're doing, I do some card tricks. Everyone's kind of cool. And then I have one for him. That's like the trick. And it's one where I tell somebody, pick a card and they hold it in their hand face up. So you hold it in your hand. Like imagine King of Spades for you right there, Flip. And he's holding the card. And I take the other card and I just wave them. I go slow.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I go, don't blink. And he's holding the card and I wave the cards over. And when I move the card slow, the card shrinks. to one quarter the size, like a mini card, just in his hand. He looked at the card, he looked at me, he looked at the card, he looked at me, he dropped the card, and he ran, he ran out.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
And yo, I left two and a half hours later to go to the airport, they still didn't know where he was. He was black, right?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I wonder if that guy remembers that. Like, I just want to know. I'm hoping he's safe. I'm hoping he's OK. I hope he's seen my success and been like, yo, that guy really messed me up in Amsterdam. But I'll never forget that guy with pupils that were the size of his eyes, looked at me, thought he just saw God, like not even in me. He thought, yeah, I mean, he was he did not even know what hit him.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I think the whole universe deconstructed in front of him.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I still do, but I don't do it anymore. It's like kind of a little sleight of hand thing. I still do though.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, no, but I think when you're with your family, there's so much input. I have four kids, and so none of them are on the way. God bless. And it's a very busy house.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Don't congratulate me. Congratulate my wife. She does all the hard work.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
There you go. But I think with kids, I try to be present. I'm gone a lot, so when I'm home, I try to really be present and enjoy them. And you can't be thinking when there's kids running around doing this, it's chaos. It's my favorite kind of chaos. And you say you have to focus so much that... And they don't like it. So I'm on TV. They're like, I was on right before the Super Bowl.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Biggest appearance in my life. My kids, I go do magic shows at their school, but I'm not that good at these magic shows. I haven't done them in like 20 years. And these kids eat you alive. They're like, what's in your hand? Let me see your thumb. Oh my God, open your pocket. There's definitely something in your pocket. I'm like, yo, can't get your hand out of my pocket.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm like rethinking my career choice after this one show. I came home and one of our friends in the building saw me. He thought somebody died. My face was like, Ashley, what just happened? I go, I think I got to quit my job. My second grader was just like, they just destroyed me. And so when I did the Super Bowl, they called me on FaceTime right afterwards. Biggest appearance ever.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Randy Moss freaking out. Adam Schefter was on ESPN right before Super Bowl. And they go, just, you talk too much. Do the trick with the candy. Because I have a trick where I just make candy appear. They're like, just do that one. Yeah, do that one. Do that one. Like, great directorial notes. Like, stop doing all the tricks with the mind stuff. Just make more candy.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That's the one. That's the kids. Brought me right back down.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I travel a lot. I'm traveling like crazy. If you see my schedule next week, I have six shows in four days. I cross the country twice. I got two red eyes where I'm sleeping on planes, waking up 8 a.m. I'm already on stage for 3,000 people.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Probably about 115. Oh, wow. Damn, gosh.
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Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
So I don't tour as much, it's interesting enough. I do some, a little bit of that, but I do corporate events. So I kind of went, I cut out where you would think yourself normally. So it's always better when somebody spends not their own money. When I'm buying tickets for a show, I'm like, how much is this show? Nabisco, you say? Biscuit money, Joe. So no, I just do all different corporate events.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I do some other things, but the TV stuff, but again, I don't even see this competition because we turn down much more shows than we take in, which is really a great problem to have, but it's from all the exposure from TV and then really focused in the last few years on social media and saw that in ways where I think some people really didn't understand the power of viral clips and consistency.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It's dopamine. If you're on TikTok, hundreds of millions of views, people see the right clips, like a Joe Burrow. I literally carpool with a couple other dads and moms in this thing. They don't know what I do. I look like an accountant. Gil Grissom right there. This one guy thought I was a lawyer. He goes, and he shows me his phone. Three people sent him to Joe Burrow in the same week.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
He goes, Joe, that dude looks just like you. I'm like, that is me. He's like, how do you do this? He's like, this is what you do for a job? He's like, I thought you were a lawyer. I'm like, yeah, I never said anything. Wow. But it's kind of a niche.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Now when he says to me, I can't take the kids from Subway Pool, I'm like, I know what you're really doing. I know what's going on.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
No, I'm kidding. Don't lie and say you're sick.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm still waiting for mine. Oh, yeah. His broken foot's throwing me off. I can't get in his head. You know what? We'll try one thing.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Well, we can't repeat. I can't have you do like what he did. I can't even do. It's got to be something new. Something new. So, but you know what? Your phone, grab your phone. You thought of somebody, and you thought of Jasmine. There was a reason you picked that person. For some reason, she popped in your head. No, you're not in trouble. I'm not doing this. That you think. Yes, he is.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Go to your contacts. But hold the phone where I can't see it. Hold the phone where I can't see it. Oh, God.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Start looking through. Is that Galaxy? What do you got? I don't know how to. I don't know. And Galaxy, does it tell you how many contacts you have or no? This is... He's setting you up.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
He's got too many to know. This guy's popular.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Extremely popular.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
All right. You're looking through. Can you see he's got a privacy screen? He's got privacy. You can't see anything. All right. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to move the mic over, and you're not mobile. The foot, the Achilles. You're going to tip your phone so Ice can't see it, and you can't see it. Now, if you just hold somebody by accident, it's a butt dial. I don't want you to butt dial.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
That's important. Here, can you bring the phone closer? I don't want to see, but I want you to do it.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
is it scrolling yes so you're gonna do this i don't know if you can see can you see a little bit you're gonna scroll but go up and down and whenever you want can you see is it moving you're gonna stop somewhere and i want you to stop but it's very important don't accidentally butt dial or call somebody you're just gonna keep scrolling like i was doing hold it like this lower like flip your hand start scrolling look when you're done give it a couple scrolls now is he going down is he going up is he gonna go to a is he gonna go to z whenever you want say i'm done
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Come on, man. I'm done. Bring it close to your body. Hold us down. Now hold on. Before he looks, it's not one name. Does everybody understand? If it's one name, he did it wrong. He should be on a list. If you take and go through, you just end up on a list. And I don't know where you started. Did you start at the top, so probably in the A's, or you probably didn't start at the bottom?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
In the middle is good. All right. Give him too much information.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, he's not your friend, yo. And don't look, guys. He's tricking you. I'm looking away. Now, you're going to see a bunch of names. And I'm gonna have you do this. Look at a name somewhere in the middle. So you get to choose and try to... You see one? Put it back to your chest. How many names were on that whole screen? Probably 15, 20. So it's impossible, right?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Even if I gave you the phone and said, look at all the names, you couldn't know who you'd just pick. I had debate. I was trying to see the body language. It wasn't a shift. It wasn't noticeable. Did you pick a guy? No. Oh, I see.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Look at that name, wherever it is in the middle. And I want you, I'm going to see if I can see the difference when he changes. Watch. Keep looking. Don't change where you're on the screen, but with your eyes, just keep going up until you run out of names to look at, until you get to the top of the list. Mm-hmm. It's like three girls, then one guy, then two, then you ended on another girl.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Person at the top, is it a female? It is. See, because you did the same thing. I'm always watching for tells. The tells are when people do something different. Don't talk to me. Do you know her?
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Yeah, whoever you looked at last. The last person you did, you registered different. You looked like you had a very different expression. Do you know her well? We cool. Look this way at me. We cool. put the phone down, something there. I shouldn't, you know, I'm going for it. Think about this. He picked anywhere in his phone. He picked any name he wanted.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
He changed the name, what, six, seven times. It's not a family member. I said, we cool. Never that. No, no.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
It's a first and last name. Think of her first name.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
No, he thought of somebody famous. I want you to do something fresh. It was a trick. Come on. I'm not doubling down. I wonder who this is.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I'm on the edge of my seat.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
I want to know. I mean, Parks, you had theories. Parks the whole time had theories. He goes, oh, man, maybe he knew what he was going to pick. Or maybe... Like he's going to leave you and he's going to try to deconstruct this, but how could this be? Yeah. He changed his mind five or six times.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)
Think of the first letter. Do you speak Spanish? No. He was about to say poquito. Do you see that? Yeah. Oh, he was. Okay. I think so. He rolled his tongue. Rolled. What's the first letter of her name? First letter. On my phone? R. R. I knew it was an R. I knew it. I knew it. And now, what names with an R? Damn.