Oleksii Arestovych
Appearances
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Even now, I have to be watching my words very carefully and select my words just to not to damage the country.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
2014, 2008, 2019.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Many smart people understand this, but you need to realize the atmosphere in Ukraine. The people, most of them, carry emotional trauma from the war. It's very severe, and it does not let them think freely. Moreover, they're under an onslaught of huge amounts of propaganda from different directions, from the Russia side, from the Ukrainian side, so they're not free in their judgment.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Other than that, there's another aspect. My way of speaking is very provoking, narcissistic. As they say, it triggers and provokes a lot of people. I predicted this in March 2022 at the height of my popularity when I was crazy popular with people who would not go to bed without hearing me. They would not wake up without me. Military people would listen to me from generals to housewives.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Everybody would listen to me. Everybody would listen to me before going to bed and so forth. So they asked me how. Is this all going to end? And I said that they will call me a traitor. This is on video. And how did I know? Because it always happens in therapy, and I was providing some sort of therapy for the nation.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Yes, yes, yes. I said this at the height of my popularity. It was the third day, third week, rather, after the beginning of the war. And I said that they will, in the end... call me a traitor because it always happens when people put their hopes on someone and then the life happens and their hopes don't come to pass and the person they place their hope upon becomes the worst person in the world.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
It's a known phenomenon in therapy and I was able to foresee it. Today people Their attitudes towards me are very harsh and emotional. Figuratively, many people defy me, carry me on their arms and consider me a messiah and savior. And there are people who hate me and consider that I'm the concentration of evil and everything, the worst things that could happen with Ukraine.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Well, in the past, you see, the politicians, they trade in audience always. That's the main currency that a politician handles. So any audience is carefully protected.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I would see Zelensky several times during the period from 2020 through 2022, including the times when I would stay in the office, along with him and Yermak, resolving a list of specific military issues, for example, appointing Zelushny as a commander-in-chief. I did that, it was my project to appoint Deluzhny as the commander-in-chief.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And since this was a complex process, a closed-door process, we were discussing this topic in detail several times. When the war began, I was in the immediate proximity. I'm just trying to be precise. I was in the immediate proximity with Zelensky.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
It would be weeks. Weeks, yes. Hundreds of hours. Okay, got it.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
It's two different people. Really? Yes, of course. On the screen, he plays the role of this unbreakable leader, like made of iron. In life, he carries himself in a much softer way, in personal conversations. He attentively listens to everyone's opinion, but nonetheless, he takes decisions himself later on behind closed doors when everyone leaves.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
It was a huge protest against the old political system that was in action since 1991 through 2012. And during the time he was elected, it was the third Maidan, but it was an electoral Maidan, voters' Maidan. People were not so much voting for him, even though... A good amount of people voted for him, as much as they were voting against Poroshenko and the old system.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
They wanted to elect a wildcard joker person who is not from the system, and they got one.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
No. There are two main legends around Zelensky's name. The first is that he's someone's puppet, that Kolomoisky, for example, one of Ukrainian oligarchs. And the second one is that really Yermak runs everything and Zelensky is his puppet. But it's not so. Zelensky is an extraordinarily harsh and authoritarian person. He controls everything.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And Yermak, when he says that he's just Zelensky's manager, it's true. He's not exaggerating their places and issues whatsoever. where they do not let Yermak in, where he decides single-handedly, and the list of all those topics is not so short. And Kolomoisky is currently in jail.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Everybody was portraying him as the owner of the puppet, but you see, they were pushing this legend, but you see how it all turned out to be.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
For me, Zelensky is a person that when life threw challenges at him, they were beyond his competency. Meaning, if perhaps he was a president during a peaceful time, perhaps he could manage. But when his life confronted him with war, huge challenges, first COVID, then the war, he could not handle it. He simply was not able to understand and resolve the problems posed before him.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Moreover, from my point of view, this is a person who de facto deceived his voters. He promised them one thing and practically did not fulfill not a single, not a single election promise. Especially those key issues in Ukraine. Ukraine has about 25% of desperate nationalists, who in their extreme nationalism roll down to chauvinism, especially with the war trauma.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
73% of voters voted for Zelensky, practically the entire remainder, we're talking 25 and 73, and to them he promised a wider multicultural project, where people who speak in Russian, for example, and Russian culture is an organic part of Ukrainian culture,
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And so this is why they voted for him, because he said that he will not allow to split Ukrainians based on the language they speak and what church they go to. But he did not do any of that. He did everything to the opposite. Poroshenko at his time announced his famous concept stating army, language, Ukrainian language and faith.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And he consolidated around 25% of voters around himself, and the rest voted against that. In the result, Zelensky's administration, it turned out that he supported that very same project. And today, Ukraine is facing a serious violation of the Constitution, and he himself is supposed to be the guarantor of the Constitution.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Human rights violations, brutal violations, persecution of the Church, etc. And I began criticizing that when I was still his advisor to his office. Because for me, my... personal motivation is very close toward a religious one. For me, the issue of conscience, honor, precision are key issues, the issue of truth.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And I'm not able to stay silent, and even now I'm not silent, because Him, with all of this, negative attitudes with what he does, he's the head. He's the president and the head of our country that's at war, that's at war with a superior opponent. So in my rhetoric, in my critic, and I'm being officially in political opposition to him, I must at all time carefully choose my words
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
to make a distinction between the office of the president of Ukraine and Volodymyr Zelensky as a person. I'm trying not to damage the president of Ukraine, rather to hit particularly Zelensky himself. And this may have a negative appearance as if I'm waging a personal war with him. That's not true. It's not the case.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
The level of corruption is off the charts. Catastrophical. Zelensky is an extremely authoritarian and strict person. Everybody played him like the owner of this puppet, but it's all the opposite.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I'm criticizing him as a political leader that is making mistakes, in my opinion, including strategical mistakes on the inside and the outside, refraining from waging war as a matter of principle. But oftentimes, Such reputation may get created, and at all times, even now, I have to carefully select my words as a matter of principle so as not to damage the country.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Putin, he single-handedly took several decisions, single-handed decisions that are directed against my country. And not only. The first is that when he took away Crimea in 2014, then the whole activity in Donbass, and full-scale war that began in 2022. He is the leader of a country who single-handedly took a decision to go with military aggression against Ukraine.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And I qualify him as such, no less, no more. That's officially. Unofficially, I have my particular opinion about him as a person and political figure. and how he came to that life, better said, to those decisions. I openly state that, which does not add to my popularity among many Ukrainians, because I have my own view of things.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And if you wish, I can share this with you, but it will take three to five minutes. It's a long text.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
From my point of view, Putin, upon completing the Leningrad University and working in the West, and he comes from a political intelligence background, he... is the most pro-Western Russian politician until now. His mindset. In his mindset, he is the most pro-Western politician. Let's recall his coming to power. His first proposition to the West was to accept Russia into NATO.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Then he offered to make Russian missile defense system as part of the Western missile defense system. He is the first leader who called George Bush after 9-11 and offered his help. He organized a stopover base for the US and NATO in Volga. It is the same person who today is saying no to NATO bases in Ukraine.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And Americans during their campaign in Afghanistan were using Russian territory in their stopover bases in Russia. It took a long time. before he switched to anti-Western courts. I can even name you the stages of that process. In the beginning, he started fighting with those whom he considered Russia's internal enemies. Those are the oligarchs like Berezovsky, Kuczynski, TV channels, etc.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So he began taking action as a KGB officer who's used to oppress internal opposition. He got in trouble with the West, particularly with the soft power side NGO structures that were bringing Western influence, especially the influence that Democrat, globalist, We're introducing through the means like USAID and Soros Fund, etc.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
He understood that this is the soft power that is directed against him, but he purposefully set up Russia as a non-ideological state. He said economy. From my point of view, Putin is a leader who is a right-wing liberal, conservative type, something like Cecil Ross or Stalipin in Russia in the end of the 19th century, a statesman and a right-wing liberal, free economy, and so forth, so forth.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
But he has a KGB officer inside him, and he has some traumatizing experience back from St. Petersburg times when he was Sobchak's assistant, who was St. Petersburg mayor at that time. And as they say, he was intensely interacting with criminal structures, and it left a definite mark on him. So these are the three sources that formed his personality.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
He was asking to join the West with all his might. But then the revolution takes place, let's say, in 2002, when Ukraine officially under President Kuchma is taking the decision to join NATO. With the background of Chechenian campaign and Russia blaming the West for meddling and supporting Chechenian Magi heads, he took it extremely painfully.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Then the revolution in Georgia happens in Caucasus, which is a key area for him. He takes it as a Western, particularly American expansion right in Russia's underbelly. To put it that way, then, the first Maidan in Ukraine, the Orange Maidan, 2004, he takes it as a Western intelligence agency, in particular American agencies, directed against Russian influence. Then, some time passes.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And in 2007, it's his famous Munich speech where he says, declares that he's now enemies with the West. It took him seven years to get to that point. And they begin planning a definite large scale special operation against Ukraine. It comprised an entire spectrum of attacks, economic, political, cultural, et cetera, et cetera. But they were still not talking about a military decision.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Then comes the events in Georgia, 2008. Then on that background, Ukraine is emphatically brings the question before NATO and the collective West about accepting Ukraine into NATO. Bucharest summit in 2010, and the American president at the time says that we accept Ukraine into NATO. But Merkel and the leaders of Germany and France categorically refuse.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And Putin understands that this is an issue that he can never be at peace with, that from Ukrainian territory and with Ukraine's help, there will be a systemic threat to Russia's security, at least how he sees it. argue how reasonable this is, but I'm just describing the way he sees that. Then the key event was an attempt of Maidan in Russia.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
It was the Bolotnaya Square, spearheaded by Navalny and other leaders of opposition in 2012, and that scared Putin to death. He understood that this colorful revolution as the West's method of action, as they took it, is already inside Russia. Then he turned Russia into an ideological state in order to create an ideology of Russian peace as a software for Russia's expansion.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And back then, the decision was taken to take away Crimea and it went on further. From Putin's point of view, he's carrying out a defense war. I think
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
if we talk psychologically he holds a deadly grudge against the west because he always wanted to them to like him always wanted to be part of them he was accepted into g8 and kicked out of g8 from that big eight and he's still angry and he's trying to prove it to the west with this whole war that they need to consider him and that russia has real interest that he's honestly defending
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
This is his mindset and this is his logic from what I understand. People blame him for supposedly wanting to rebuild the Soviet Union. I don't think so. Rather, he wants to revenge for the Soviet Union's defeat. It's the motivation. And from his point, the West broke the agreement.
PBD Podcast
"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
They're based on the fact that when Gorbachev brought the troops out from Germany, he was promised that the West will not expand. NATO will not expand eastward. But there were five waves of expansion and he was bearing with that still. But when they touched the former SSR countries, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine, he took it as an intrusion into his area of responsibility.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
It's the logic of a person who's like in St. Petersburg in the 90s, who took over a marketplace, as we say, so we agree that this is going to be your territory of influence, this is going to be mine, then you intrude into my territory of influence and there must be some response. So, from his point of view, he's waging a defense warfare.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
From his point of view, he has the moral superiority in what he's doing and he sincerely believes and what he's doing, and at the same time, he finds himself in a very difficult position. And it's been three and a half years that I'm in big politics, and I continue learning every day. I'm trying to understand what's happening, and new things open up to me every day.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
My experience has convinced me that the average person thinks that politicians lie when they come to the microphone. But all the experience convinces me that politicians tell pure truth 99% of the time.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And when he says that we're not fighting with Ukraine, nor with Ukrainian people, but rather with the Nazi government that took over Ukraine, and Ukrainians are brothers and sisters, as he confirmed today at the conference, he's telling the pure truth. He's truly thinking that way.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So, it's a complex character with regards to Ukraine and the world, with complex motivation, and I tried to express it with maximum precision and the way I understand it, laying down his foundational motives and the way he's looking at the world.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I think he tells the truth 99% of the time. When he speaks about key issues, what he mentioned today about 80 kilograms of meat per person per year in Russia, there's a big question where he got those numbers from. But as to his positions, for example, in his interview with Tucker, when he does this long historical, he says what he thinks.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
For him, the main point of orientation is the United States of America and any of their leaders. Why? Because he's measuring the real weight and he sincerely believes that he's stronger than any Western state except the United States. He's stronger than France, Britain, Germany. not to mention Italy and the Baltic countries.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And the strategy consists of to create a situation when he can have a two-sided relationship with any Western country, bypassing overnational structures like NATO and US, because together all the countries of the West are stronger than Putin, but he's stronger than any country separate except the United States. So he's orienting only against the US.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
For him, Ukraine is a proxy power of the US, and so he's trying to speak over the head and come and negotiate because, again, he repeated today, he's not going to talk to Zelensky. For him, the U.S. is the focus of his grudge, attraction, recognition. It's a very Russian way of thinking. I don't know if you can understand it. But why, though?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Putin lived through four U.S. presidents, and during this whole time he has been the president, and today we know. For example, the administration, I always underscore that you cannot say United States, collectively the West. That's exactly what I'm saying.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Because the administration of Trump's administration and Biden's administration are two different types of West and two different worldviews and systems of motivation. And he understands this. Moreover, he's trying to play with it, but he's working with the given. He's a professional intelligence officer. He has been taught to work with the given. If it's Biden, he works with Biden.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
If it's Trump, he works with Trump. But he sincerely believes that a country has objective interests. independently from the last name of their leader, the size and the geographical location and real geopolitical interests. And he's always trying to appeal to that. So notice, his style is real politics.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
He's always talking about real politics, real interests, and he's offering to act within those parameters and framework on the television. What did he achieve in this war? He achieved a great success. You remember the debates of Kamala Harris and Trump? There was a very curious moment in there. President Trump says to Kamala that you failed in your negotiations, your talks with Russia.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
If it had been me, the war would not have started. It's a very free paraphrasing of what took place. So she's losing it for a second. And then she says, in a very free paraphrasing as well, she responds, why do we even have to speak to people like Putin and the rest of them? And that's the thing that Putin always feels, and it touches him very painfully.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And he demands, he wants for others to speak to him on the same level, like equals. So his interview with Tucker is his attempt to prove why they need to talk to him as an equal. And he's talking about a multipolarized world, not just the United States who had usurped the power and were telling everybody else how to live. So in this war, he's posing as the representative of the Global South.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
He tried to put China India and BRICS and the Arab world on his side. So he's showing them like I'm the person who is capable to stand against the West, this new colonialism that they're promoting. So he's discussing those terms. For you, I'm the defense against that. And the summit in Kazan, when his political isolation was torn apart and tens of world leaders joined him.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So that's the culmination of this war of 2022. He It's showing that I managed to be this ram from the global south and to force the West to face this new political reality where the world is not single polar anymore. And that it doesn't matter who the president of the U.S. is, even though things change after Trump.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
From his point of view, the West looks like people that promise for the period, leaders who promise for the period of time while they're in power. So if it's four years, to put it this way, roughly, he's in power, he can promise for four years.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And then every time you need to deal with new people, many times imposing positions because the opposition comes to power and he needs to renegotiate from zero every time, every time having those problems. And I think he tried to resolve the problem on a key level. He showed that In order to defend Russian interests, he's ready to use military force, and you can't not consider that.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Other than that, in his eyes, Potsdam's system was destroyed, which had been created after the Second World War, and now we need to build a new collective security system in Europe or the whole world. This is one of the key things. He mentions one of the key things that I myself talk about, but in his opinion, the West does not want to pose the question this way.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So he said today that the West is playing one-sidedly. to oppress. I'm offering a collective system of security, but you are oppressing us. You don't want to consider us. This is not equal relationships. We're not par.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I don't think that he poses the question that way. I think he only trusts, believes in himself and Russia themselves. Look, by the sheer fact of their size and the border with China and the nuclear power, even though they're allies, they're containing and restraining China.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
In a certain measure, when the USSR lost the Cold War and Kissinger traveled to Canada, Nixon in 1975, and this triangle of USSR-USA-China had been resolved not in the USSR's favor, China and the US ended up being allies. Today, the question is posed the same way in this battle of the United States and China, which is a key thing for Americans. And China, where is going to be Russia?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
This is something I always say inside Ukraine. When you want the Russia to be what are the national extreme nationalists are demanding that the Russia needs to fall down, that the West needs to destroy, take away their nuclear warheads. And I always ask, do you think the West needs a broken Russia or do they need Russia as a factor that restrains China?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And Putin clearly understands what he's trading with. He's trading with his position in relation to China. He is letting them understand that if things go really bad with the West, I'm going to go and join China. You're going to have to deal with the joint potential of China and Russia. And if not, I'm ready to stay neutral and play this role of containing China.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So this is one of the key arguments in the negotiations.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Let me quote the Bible here. There's a good phrase in the Bible. My enemy, why did you betray me? Why did you leave me? And it's clearly saying that the enemy, it's this character, subject that is most honest towards you. more honest than your friends, especially in the politics.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Because the enemy is the best teacher. Putin is my opponent. And it's an honest battle. But internal politics is always dirty. And usually your best friends are the ones who betray you.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
No, never spoke with him. We have incompatible ranks.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
No. Okay.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I think that the real numbers, according to my evaluation of killed and missing in action in our condition, what that means, killed and missing, it's around 150,000 more or less, and about 400,000-500,000 of injured. And Russian losses are three times as large, I think, of killed and injured. But we need to understand the next issue. Our relation ratio of killed and injured is better.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Ukraine has very good military medicine. So for one killed, we have five, six injured. In Russia, it's one to two, one to three. They have a very poor relationship. field medicine. And since they are attacking for them, they have a larger problem evacuating than us. And so they're losing in that ratio between injured and dead. So many people die right there in the field.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So they could have 350 people killed and only about 600, 700 people injured and not the way it was supposed to be 1.5 million if the ratio would be as in developed armies in the world, like in the Ukrainian army.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I think it depends how you count their very specific place in this whole thing is losing the people who were drafted from the occupied territories. Yes. So there's a specific place. This is the loss of people that were drafted from our occupied territories, Donbas, Crimea. And now it's even Zaporozhye and Kherson regions and people who died being Ukrainian citizens died.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
being part of the russian army attacking us so what did putin do he forced ukrainian citizens to fight against other ukrainian citizens drafting them from those dnr and lnr from there about 70 80 000 people died how do we count those is this a loss on the russian side ukrainian side or a separate category it's a big question it's not a small amount it could be up to 100 000 people so this is why the general correlation uh it's one two three and kellogg one of the representatives from trump
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
typical ratio on the battlefield between the attacking and retreating, or better said, attacking and defending sides. We are defending. Everybody who is attacking usually carries more losses. For them to not carry more losses, they need to have a radical technical advantage, but they don't have that. Moreover, in some... Yes, you look. There are battles when it's 1 to 10, 1 to 15.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
That's on average only comes to 1 to 3, 1 to 5, I would say, more or less.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Yes. He demonstrates a consistent position since March 2022, since Istanbul negotiations. And you notice today he said that the basis for us is the Istanbul talks and the real position on the ground. And we are ready for compromises. Putin is a very complex person, but he has two remarkable qualities, real or figurative.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
In parentheses, he perfectly, impeccably maintains the same line that he announced, and in the eyes of everyone in Europe, everybody he deals with, he stated clear goals, and he showed that he can achieve them by force, but he has not changed the goals. He consistently says the same thing. Istanbul talks, we're ready to talk, and etc.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
It's more Ukraine, more likely here, that looks like an unpredictable partner that... from one side is showing itself as a victim, as a suffering side. From the other side, Putin, it's making us to look like we are constantly refusing to negotiate. This is what happened today. So he's building a perfect trap. See, the first step, he says we're ready to talk.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I think I will win.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Step number two, he says, I'm ready to compete with the West over Kiev and try Oreshnik, which is the mass destruction weapon, and let the Western air defense try to protect them from that. And number three, he says, I'm not going to talk to Zelensky. Oh, he's not a legitimate leader. If he will be reelected, then I'll talk to him. So this is a slap in the face to Zelensky. It's like a red rag.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So when Putin says he's not legitimate, how is the West... Zelensky is a horse who's not even going to participate in the race. Why would we even bet on it? So he receives this emotional trauma, plus this areshnik, this threat to Kyiv, and they react very sharply.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And it's just street cussing and swearing, him and Irmak publishing this, posting this, outside of any political relations, even between countries in war, just cursing, swearing. And now Putin says and shows this to this world and says, I'm for peace. I'm ready to go for a compromise. But these people, you can't even talk to them. You can't be negotiating with them.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And this is how we look in the eyes of the whole world. Because with this whole offer and this provocation, how did we react? Saying bad words, calling him names, which liquidated any possibility of normal communication. talks, even thinking about it, even just a ceasefire. This is why Putin has a very clear position. He took it in the spring of last year. It was corrected since 2022.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Zelensky is not a legitimate leader. He's over his time. He does not represent the people of Ukraine. We're ready to talk. But for this, we need compromises. the people in power who are legitimately there, and he has not changed position since then.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Since that time, we called him names, got to intrude into Kursk oblast, and we did many times things that undermine Ukraine's image as the country that really desires peace. Now, the prime minister of Hungary spoke twice about the Christmas truce and exchanging prisoners of war, and our The government very harshly reacted to that, saying nobody authorized Orban to do that.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So for Zelensky and his emotional heat, I don't know if he noticed this, but they are painting him as the only public political figure who is against stopping the war. And I am warning them publicly. through my direct statements. And I'm sure that they are watching me in Zelensky's office. Look what they're doing to you.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
In 1998, I finished the same military school as General Zeluzhny. We know each other since that time. We're friends since the military school. Then I was serving in the Ukrainian military intelligence, specializing on the military and political analysis. Within that framework, when I retired in 2005, I predicted, while analyzing the situation, that Russia will invade Crimea.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
They are constantly putting you in a position of people who are against stopping the war. And you're the victim side. Putin, on your background, begins looking like an adequate, reasonable person who is offering peace, of course, on his own conditions and achieving what he wants, his goals. But this is a very dangerous road and he is outplaying us.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I think that the real terms for talks, it would be freezing it on the line of fire that exists today. Putin will not go to talks with Zelensky, I think. That's 100%. He's not going to go only if Zelensky is re-elected again. Because Putin is a lawyer and he has this lawyery thinking he always prefers to achieve, to be reduced to writing an agreement, signed by, but signed by who?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
if he considers Zelensky as illegitimate. See, Trump, he pushes forward like a bulldozer in a good sense of this word. I think he'll have enough strength and influence to do a double ultimatum for Russia and Ukraine and force them to stop the fire. But stopping the fire doesn't mean peace.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And Putin will stop the fire, but he will talk about some agreements only with the next legitimate president of Ukraine, which the people will choose. And before that, there will be no peaceful agreement. So the President Trump... He can stop the war, as he said, but achieving a peaceful agreement is the next very difficult task.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I described it, and there's a video of that on the Internet from 2008, where I described how they will invade Crimea. And that's actually how they did it, the literally same stages and same steps as I had described then. There was a video in 2015, 18, 19, where I was predicted the war will break out.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And we still don't know how the first is going to end up working out with the elections in Ukraine, what it's going to bring and how it's going to end. I say that the question is on creating a new system of collective security in Eastern Europe with participation of Russia, Belarus, considering their position. which can compensate and replace my own system, which is destroyed.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
If we don't consider the interests of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, it's not going to work. We can stop firing, but we will not be able to resolve the problem in its core. Will be able Trump, Putin and Yulia of Ukraine stop this war in the route? That's a real challenge. It's not going to be easy to achieve. But seizing the fire, it's possible, yes.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Let me put it this way. I have fullness of information of what is happening in Ukraine in the most, most tight circles, to put it this way.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I have fullness of information.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I need to be very sensitive because I don't want to set these people up.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
If you want this type of an answer, I have an answer. It's information from Zelensky's closest circle. This is the maximum precision I can give you in an answer.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Do you use those terms directly, indirectly? I'll speak directly.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Okay, good.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Well, the mood in Ukraine is such that there will be immediately a whole set of key issues that are impossible to resolve without elections, stopping the martial law. mobilization, opening the borders, because we're a country with closed borders and many families have been split for three years. Every third, fourth Ukrainian person is outside the country.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Since 2014, I was participating in the Second Maidan and military operations in the East, and I became famous as a military commentator, military reviewer. When Zelensky came to power, I criticized him very sharply because of his approach towards war and towards stopping the war and so forth so harsh that one time they invited me over to talk.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Many times husbands haven't seen their wives and children for many years. This is why it cannot be resolved without elections. And I think within a month or two, there will be a question brought up about stopping martial law and going into the peaceful state.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Whether he personally received corrupt money, to clarify the question?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
formulate this this way. Most of the cases that you were naming are happening in the realm of national defense and security, which is the direct area of responsibility of our President Zelensky as the Commander-in-Chief, according to the laws and constitution of Ukraine. This is his direct area of responsibility.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I was especially critical of the informational coverage of the Minsk process. And I received a call from their office, and they invited me to a meeting in the Minsk process. And when it finished, they said, what's your opinion? What do you think that the informational policy should be?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
He carries full responsibility for everything that happens, Dan, especially in a country that is in a state of war.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I'm answering with maximum precision. I do not have information that he received money from corruption scandals. But I can tell you for sure that the level of corruption is off the charts. Catastrophical.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And people surrounding him in the zone that he's responsible for.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
At a minimum, it benefits the people who are surrounding him.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I do not have such information. But he carries full responsibility for what is happening in his area of responsibility for the level of corruption that is happening there and the measures that he's undertaking. To put it mildly, I find them unsatisfactory.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I described it, what I would do, and they offered me to become an advisor and speaker of the Ukrainian group in the Minsk process. Parallel, there was the Normand process happening. And about three weeks after that, I met with Yermak, and he offered for me to become the advisor to the office. And I was an advisor on strategical communication in the area of national defense.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
From whose side? Our side? Ukrainian side? Or U.S. side?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I don't think that they arranged the war, but they definitely used its results. That's for sure.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Of course, why not?
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I was a participant of the negotiations group on March 29 in Istanbul. We signed an agreement. We come back to Ukraine on April 1st. And 1st, 2nd April, the 2nd, I believe, the Bucha tragedy is discovered. Then on April 9th, there was supposed to be a meeting of Putin and Zelensky, at which time the ceasefire was supposed to take place and open talks.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Johnson came either the 4th or the 3rd, I don't remember exactly, I need to check on that date. And Arhamia, the head of the... parliamentary majority of the ruling party, Zelensky's party, directly in an interview said that, yes, Johnson was the person who said, continue the war. That's his words. I do not know why he said that. Probably he wanted to shift the responsibility over to the West.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
We have a tendency to do that. But I was not present at the meeting with Johnson. I did not receive information from Johnson. I don't have any direct testimony, people who could testify to that. One thing I can say that the talks within Istanbul format continued until May 17, meaning another month and a half after that. they still were discussing them.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And Ramstein, for example, was only on April 26, when the first coalition met for the first time by the Minister of Defense of the US, Austin, who brought armament for Ukraine. What exactly happened? If you're interested, I can tell you what I think.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
In that capacity, I went through the Minsk process, the Norman process. Yes, yes, to Zelensky's office. When the war began, I became the main speaker. One of the three main speakers, the first was Zelensky, and Podlyak was second, and I was the speaker on the military issues. Then it happened that there was an explosive growth in popularity and influence.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Yeah, he came on the 9th when there was supposed to be a meeting between Zelensky and Putin. It was planned and it was disrupted by the Bucha crisis. Well, why do you do this? What's the reasoning to... I think it was not only Johnson doing this. I think there were corresponding signals from Biden's administration. I don't know, but I think so. Because Johnson, as an argument, wouldn't be enough.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
The main orientation is obviously, of course, the position of the American country. For us, it was most probably something along the lines of, OK, Putin is losing the war. His invasion has been thwarted. We're going to help you out so you continue fighting and get to a better position to negotiate, get a better place for negotiation, more leverage. I don't know. I'm guessing.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
So it's not only just Joe Johnson. But the fact that Britain in this conflict is pursuing their own interests, I'm sure they do, 101%. And these interests actually many times go against the American interests, it seems to me. Why we listen to that, I don't know. It's a big question for me, separate question. I think that we truly thwarted his invasion.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
And the Russians were really lost and confused in those talks. They were going to big concessions. And plus the emotional trauma from the Bucha. And it was a big mistake strategically to continue the war. Huge mistake on the Ukrainian side. What happened exactly? I'm just here in the realm of suppositions, assumptions when I'm answering this to you.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Because the enemy is a better teacher.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I became the second most popular person in Ukraine, and I took part in the Stambul process, where I was also the head of the military subgroup. In the talks with Russia, there were four subgroups, the economic, political, cultural, and I was the head of the military subgroup.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I have deep sympathy towards Britain, British people, British culture. I've been brought up in that my family has been brought up on British literature. But all I know about Great Britain, 20 plus years of political military analysis, it shows that their historical goal is not to allow union between Russia and continental Europe, especially Germany.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
their whole history of external politics of the United Kingdom shows that their main goal is not to allow the union between Germany and Russia. I do not know who exploded the Nordstrom now. Officially, unofficially, Ukraine is blamed. There is an investigation done by Germany, Russians. Putin says that there's some Anglo-Saxon did it.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I do not know anything about Britain's role, perhaps, in that explosion and sabotage, but I do know that this event could not be outside of Britain's interest, even if the Great Britain did not inspire it or conspired it or got involved.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Remember that Great Britain before that created a whole block of northern countries, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Netherlands, friends of Ukraine, and their main interest was to restrain Russia and the Baltic Sea and the Baltic theater. What really took place there is one of the biggest and most interesting questions in this war that still needs to be investigated.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
But I don't have even the least of data and suppositions of what happened there. I do not know at all.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
That Russia themselves exploded then? Yes. I think that's non-existent. They would be the last people interested in that.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
Well, I would allow that it could be Ukraine, 20%.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I think that, let's put it this way, NATO state, 80% that they're somehow this way or the other are involved in this story. Obviously, it was not Germany, which is the least interested party.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
But these are the terms of declassifying documents. 70, 80 years.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
70.
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"I Trust Putin More Than Zelenskyy" - Exiled Zelenskyy Top Insider Oleksii Arestovych TELLS ALL | PBD Podcast | Ep. 524
I never really was. I was always a black sheep. I've never was a member of his team. More likely, it was just their method to draw near the people who are criticizing them in order to disarm them. Then in the middle of March 2022, half a month after the beginning of the war, it became evident that I was ranking second most popular person in the country.
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It could be much earlier. It could be much earlier. Look, if they create a system of collective security in Europe, a new system, it can be only created by politicians with new vision. And these politicians will be interested and definitely cut ties with the past. It means that they will be also interested in exposing to the maximum the truth about the past.
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And this can happen within a much shorter term than 70 years.
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When he said specifically America? I heard they were talking about Anglo-Saxon something, keeping in mind both Britain and the USA.
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I have a different explanation.
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Because these are actions against the main member of the Union, of the ES. Who is going to announce it, even if it was a victory?
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I have no idea. No, no. Announce it. Tucker was asking Putin why this is the largest act of terrorism. Why is nobody claiming it as their victory? And Putin explaining because it's all controlled by the media. And I'm saying because it's an action against the largest member of the NATO. So nobody's going to announce it, even if it actually took place.
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Him or his people around him began undertaking systematic action against my popularity. They started a campaign that continues until today. to portray that Aristovich is the concentration of all things evil in Ukraine. Moreover, considering that I'm expressing direct political ambitions, this campaign is growing more fierce every day.
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Of course. He came as a person who wants to break down the global system with a big S, which had been built, let's put it this way, by globalists, behind whom stands the neo-Marxist school of political thought. cultural trans-chism and permanent revolution, all of that, things against which the right-wing America is standing and Trump and me personally. And these structures are very strong.
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They've been built over dozens of years. And after 1991, they've been absolutely winners since that time. And to overcome that, which is the goal that Trump's put for himself, it's going to be very uneasy, hot and bright.
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First, an external policy creating a system of collective security in Europe, Eastern Europe, considering real interests of Belarus, Russia and Ukraine and all the countries in order so that the war between Russia and Ukraine could not repeat itself.
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Whichever means of arbitrage, new means to be invented, but there cannot be a war between Ukraine and Russia, there's 10 million citizens of Ukraine and Russia have direct the relatives across the border, every fourth Ukrainian. This is not a normal situation. And there are ways to resolve the problem between us without a war, not to allow a next war to break out.
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Within Ukraine, inside, it would be changing the project from a nationalistic to a worldwide project. with wide views where the people's human rights are defended, their rights to go to the church they want, to speak the language they want, so that there is no persecution against people based on ethnical, religious,
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which unfortunately is not happening in Ukraine currently, basically so that the Constitution is being followed in Ukraine. And the third, it would be new industrialization of Ukraine and a change in direction of their development. We did a huge mistake. In 1991, it began as a major industrial power in Europe.
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And today, we are an agrarian state with a very small sliver of services, with a destroyed economy. By the way, in our own actions, and I think we need to bid on a better technological scientific process, switching to a new technological implementation in the clusters and sectors we can. I want a...
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industrial rebirth renaissance i call my whole project ukraine's renaissance and we need to bring it up from the ashes destroyed by the war but it's been even more destroyed by our by our corruption and the battle with corruption is subject number one would you would you um pursue a relationship with nato or would your campaign be to not have any interest in wanting to join nato
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No, I think that Ukraine needs to remain as a neutral country because one of the main reasons of this war with Russia was our desire and aspiration to join NATO officially and flirting with NATO, who would be always promising and not even intending to ever receive us, but forever just irritating Putin.
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According to the Articles of Independence, Declaration of Independence of Ukraine, we are a neutral country and we were recognized in 1991 as a neutral state. As soon as we stopped being, or better said, wanted to stop being a neutral country, it brought up a whole chain of consequences internationally.
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And I believe we need to be a part of the collective West mentally, maybe perhaps not a very developed country. We still need to learn a lot of things, but we need to have a special relationship with Europe, NATO, United States, but we cannot join because at this stage, it means a third war with Russia, which we will not be able to bear.
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Why would they want somebody like you? Because for us, the price of joining NATO is the war with Russia. And for NATO, the price of receiving Ukraine is the war with Russia.
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Yes, I think we will win. I will win.
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I do not know. would russia want you possibly for russia would be one the most comfortable negotiator because i'm the only ukrainian politic who says that russia has some real interest as a country regardless of the last name of their president putin navalny or ivanov I recognize them. I'm a real politic.
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Yes. It's like when two narcissists found themselves in the same den and it has become too tight for both of them.
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Russia as a state, regardless of who the president is, has real interests, and you cannot not consider them. We have 3,000 kilometers of land and sea border that we share. We're neighbors. We were part of the same state. We grew up from the same root, and we are predestined to live together. We need normal relationship with Russia, normal, that are regulated so that the war cannot repeat.
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Irritant for Russia is joining NATO and it doesn't matter if it's putting or any other president doesn't matter the last name of their leader It's Russia's interest and moreover. I know for sure that NATO does not even intend to receive us They're just teasing us about receiving but they will never let us join. It has been confirmed You don't think so by the leaders? Absolutely
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And in this year, they many times, multiple times, confirmed on highest levels that someday, sometime, Ukraine will join, but not now. You see, NATO in the United States has a status, there are five countries with that status, a special close member, but not in NATO. It's Israel, South Korea, Australia, Jordan, and one other country.
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They call me that way. I don't consider myself to be one. I've been studying psychology for many years as an amateur, but nonetheless. And so I know what a narcissist is, the definition. And it was just sort of a joke.
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We can receive that status, but the basis of regional security is the main thing. First of all, requiring good relationships with all the neighbors. Russia, Belarus, we went too far and we got a full-scale war. We need to reestablish, recover these relationships, at least some level of relationship, including Russia.
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And without considering their real interests, it's impossible to do, because the real interest of Ukraine is having good relationships with all the neighbors.
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Look, I don't know how they're going to react to my program, to my offer, what other political leaders are going to say and political powers altogether. But I have a very clear proposal. We cannot allow a war in Europe and we need to create a system that will allow to resolve current disagreements without a war. I think that that's my offer. I think it's reasonable.
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Yes, they're saying this now already.
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After my victory or before, during the campaigning?
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I will be maximum honest and precise. And Ukrainian nation will reside. I have a clear message to the Ukrainian nation. Ukraine is a failed state and the problems that the war revealed have been accumulated since 1991 because from the beginning we went on a false, wrong path, self-destruction of our economy and culture. And the real result in this war is showing that the entire system is corrupt.
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It's rotten. It doesn't work. And we need to change the entire system. And I'm coming with this proposal to change that. And this sounds similar to President Trump. My messages are similar to his, that the system is no good and it needs to be fundamentally changed. We need to overcome the deep state and corrupt forces. That's my offer.
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Now, if the people will vote for me and elect me, they will decide.
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I think that this is one of the leading officers in Biden's administration, representative of Democrat globalists.
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She played her specific role. And that role was involving, I don't know if it was her task or not, but overall, the task of these people was to make a trap out of Ukraine for Putin. Like second Afghanistan for Russia. And we got in trouble with this trap for getting our own real interest. And we could have avoided getting in trouble.
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I have direct support from the side of the business, middle business, large business. i have enough support among the military i'm a ukrainian officer lieutenant colonel in ukrainian army two and a half years and the front line and overall and i have enough support i'm a volunteer who brings and gathers a lot of support and help for the ukrainian army and i have
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a significant support among the people, and it's difficult to measure that at this time. I think that you understand that right now it's just a general understanding, but once the presidential candidates will be registered, this always becomes a specific... choice, the value of the program you're announcing, the value of your team, the value of every word you say after the official registration.
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It's not just people from your country, people from other countries listen to you. That combines both of your questions. So for now, it's just people looking overall at this situation. But over there, it's going to be a real battle of statements, programs. I can tell you that for now, I have sufficient supporters in all of the spheres of life of Ukraine.
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I can tell you I'm in direct contact with them.
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Look, in 2008, The steps were as follows. It began in March 2022. Then later in July of 2022, I was given an interview to a very famous Ukrainian journalist, Dmitry Gordon. I openly stated there he asked me if I was going to run for president. I said yes. And since then, it was clear that the set of problems standing before Ukraine resonates with me.
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I am more of a right centrist.
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Yes, that can be. Look, for Ukraine... exposure before English-speaking audiences, moreover, United States is one of the key things, because the very existence of Ukraine depends on 80% from the help that America gives. Not a single Ukrainian can be indifferent toward American audience and their points of view of Americans onto what happens in Ukraine.
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And I understood that this is my life goal to help Ukraine to resolve these issues. I have my own views on those things. And after that, there was a totally crazy campaign. that was set in motion against me, inspired particularly by people surrounding Zelensky, not only by them, but also other political opponents. The systems began working against me.
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The person who is represented here, of course, receives a very strong shoulder of support, but the very fact of having an interview
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for the english-speaking audience american audience with regards to the two main points i want to say the same thing i'm intending to be a president for all ukrainians and not just for my my supporters so people who maintain opposing ideologies will still be under protection their rights will be defended they will have a right to voice because there must be freedom of speech there must be a battle of arguments and not just suppressing one of the sides that's a key
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And the second point, I'm not a liberal like Millais, but I am a supporter of maximum freedom in economics. Ukraine is now on 116th or maybe 123rd place according to Freedom for Economy. It's a shame. Russia, we call them totalitarian, authoritarian state, is on 109th place. So they have a higher ranking than us.
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So my goal is to liberalize to the maximum the economy and allow people to make money, give them freedom of speech.
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defend their freedoms and rights and expand them so I'm encouraged by the example of melee and the leaders you named but I have my own view on things and it's my approach is rather more American maximum private and corporate rights have to be given to the maximum to the people and the state needs to dictate the main
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Guidelines, fighting corruption, maintaining those guidelines for the society and economy, and external policy will be the strategical development of the country and relationships with the neighbors. That's my view. The state needs to be shrunk down. The whole government needs to be shrunk down. They should not own anything. That belongs to the private people.
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And they should not meddle directly into the ideological war. rather to create an atmosphere where some people cannot oppress others using organizations, government agencies, foreign partners, influences and help from abroad, but provide for the true freedom of speech that we never had in Ukraine.
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And when the true battle of arguments and ideologies begins, that will provide for the true development of the country, regardless of who the leader is. My goal is to create a system of rules. And I believe that the quality of a politician is defined by his ability to provide continuity. Imagine I'm lucky and I get reelected. I have 10 years.
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So the goal for these 10 years is to place foundations that cannot be rolled back, even if my opponents come to power afterwards, to create mechanisms in the country that will hold for the future free economy and freedom and protected. This is a set of tasks. It will be difficult to achieve, but this is exactly what I am aiming to do.
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Then a Russian missile hits a residential building in Dnipro, which is the second city in Ukraine by size, actually third after Kharkiv. This happened in January 2023. And in an interview, I had a daily show with the Russian oppositioner Mark Fagan. 500,000 people would watch it every time, every day.
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500 000 people it was very popular and on that show live i was very tired and i misspoke when they asked me about whether it was possible to intercept the missile and i said that in my opinion i think it was a russian missile but only after it was intercepted by our defense system only after that it in turn hit the residential building so when i misspoke it was used in a huge campaign against me and they actually suggested that i what year is this what year
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This was January 14, 2023. One year after the beginning of the war. They used this against me, and Yermak and Zelensky suggested to resign, leave the office at that point. It was already clear that we differ on a whole range of issues. In particular, one of them is the fate of the Russian Church in Ukraine or the Ukrainian Church of the Russian Patriarchy.
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While being an advisor, I publicly spoke out in his defense also on some other issues. And so, to be honest, I was happy to leave because the totality of contradictions between me and their position was critical. in size by then. But since I was phenomenally popular in Ukraine and beyond its borders, I had a lot of invitations to all kinds of international conferences on security.
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And they were not able not to send me there. I would regularly travel, go there, represent Ukraine, in my particular opinion. And then in September 2023, while I was in the U.S., our visits coincided, my visit and President Zelensky's. And in one of the programs, I was asked to comment on his visit, and I assessed it as extremely unsuccessful.
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I changed my rhetoric and predicted all of the troubles that we now have. Because during NATO summit in Vilnius in June 2023, and during that visit, in those statements, I saw all the problems that we have now. And I was warned. And American... professional, will not name the person, not to return to Ukraine. I laughed. I already had my return ticket to Ukraine, so I laughed.
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I said, this cannot be how. I'm the second most popular person in the country. Who and how would do that and so forth? Moreover, I myself come from intelligence services background, and I know when it's a real threat and when it's not. I did not take it seriously at all. He repeated it three times, do not return, and he said that he will not repeat again.
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I did not fly back thinking that the dust will settle in a couple weeks.
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weeks or months and I was planning to go back by winter I wanted to get the return tickets again I was making plans my family stayed back in Ukraine and so forth but every time it was delayed farther and farther and every time it was growing worse and worse and I'm still a political immigrant after a year and a half already I cannot return back to Ukraine
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They opened three criminal cases against me, not directly, but still, to be exact, two criminal cases. And until now, they're still trying to open a third one to be completely exact. I have a school of philosophy and psychology where I teach with more than 60,000 students from 60 countries. And right after that interview, they began pressuring the administration of the school.
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They hacked everyone's phone, installed wiretaps in their homes and cars. There was a demonstrative surveillance set up after the lady who used to be the school's administrator, and she was on the eight months of pregnancy. So that was the story. The security service came to my house undercover right after the interview. But overall, then... Even then, it didn't stop me.
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I wanted to go back calmly. But I was seriously warned from here, from the American side, that I should not go for now. And this for now continues until today and is being delayed farther and farther.
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I publicly apologized, even though until now, honestly, it was just a gesture of politeness and condolences for the deceased because there were no formal basis to apologize. If you watch the video attentively, I said that this version still needs to be verified and verified over again. I misspoke. And I will explain what has happened.
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Every time when I do my show, I was also trying to train the people that watch me to process information correctly. So I would usually present several versions saying, look, there's a Ukrainian version, there's a Russian version.
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Yes, yes, it's a live show.
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Yes, absolutely. You can watch it. And I was so tired that day. I had traveled back from the field and I was exhausted. My tongue simply wouldn't turn to speak through each version. Moreover, my co-host interrupted me and said, yes, I think it was our intercepting rocket that hit the Russian missile. which in turn hit their residential building.
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But I said that this needs to be verified and verified over again. That's all I had strength to do. Then I went to sleep in the morning. I woke up and there is this huge scandal. And it was blown up by the participation of the Russian media and the media from our fifth president, Poroshenko, who is now in opposition.
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And as well, the networks of our president's office, as strange as it may be, their social channels and all the rest. So it was a big and fiery story.