Nish Kumar

From your perspective as a technology reporter, do you consider that to be useful and good piece of legislation? Because to be honest, the rest of us, a lot of the time, don't know what the fuck is going on in this.

From your perspective as a technology reporter, do you consider that to be useful and good piece of legislation? Because to be honest, the rest of us, a lot of the time, don't know what the fuck is going on in this.

What does practical action look like in this instance? Because I have two cousins that are themselves Australian children. They're 18 and 20. I think 20 is not a child. Well, they're children from my perspective. Anyone under 30 is a child from my perspective at this point. So they're exiting the period that we're really talking about.

What does practical action look like in this instance? Because I have two cousins that are themselves Australian children. They're 18 and 20. I think 20 is not a child. Well, they're children from my perspective. Anyone under 30 is a child from my perspective at this point. So they're exiting the period that we're really talking about.

the vulnerable teenage years, and they are now voting age adults. And I asked them about this, Bill, and I was quite surprised how in favour of it they were. Really? Yeah, they were very much of the opinion that they had observed harms done to them and their friends by being exposed to these things at younger ages.

the vulnerable teenage years, and they are now voting age adults. And I asked them about this, Bill, and I was quite surprised how in favour of it they were. Really? Yeah, they were very much of the opinion that they had observed harms done to them and their friends by being exposed to these things at younger ages.

But the point that they then raised is so much of their social lives are now driven through these apps.

But the point that they then raised is so much of their social lives are now driven through these apps.

That... there's a danger if you just suddenly remove them of actually isolating children further. If we've come to the conclusion, as we all have pretty much, that these things do harm to children, what are the actual practical measures that governments can take?

That... there's a danger if you just suddenly remove them of actually isolating children further. If we've come to the conclusion, as we all have pretty much, that these things do harm to children, what are the actual practical measures that governments can take?

To move on to a different area of online safety, last week there was a multinational AI summit in Paris where 60 countries signed a declaration of inclusive and sustainable artificial intelligence for all. Two countries were notably missing, the US and the UK.

To move on to a different area of online safety, last week there was a multinational AI summit in Paris where 60 countries signed a declaration of inclusive and sustainable artificial intelligence for all. Two countries were notably missing, the US and the UK.

A spokesperson for Downing Street said, we weren't following the US's lead, but that this is about our own national interest, ensuring the balance between opportunity and security. Can you wade through that word, Sue, to discern what the fuck that means? No.

A spokesperson for Downing Street said, we weren't following the US's lead, but that this is about our own national interest, ensuring the balance between opportunity and security. Can you wade through that word, Sue, to discern what the fuck that means? No.

My concern here is that Elon Musk and Google have all warned that tech companies might choose to not launch products in the UK because due to the funding structure for the Online Safety Act, and there are Ofcom plans to charge tech giants fees equivalent to about 0.02% of their global revenue to enforce the laws, which would generate around 70 million quid a year.

My concern here is that Elon Musk and Google have all warned that tech companies might choose to not launch products in the UK because due to the funding structure for the Online Safety Act, and there are Ofcom plans to charge tech giants fees equivalent to about 0.02% of their global revenue to enforce the laws, which would generate around 70 million quid a year.

Since the first discussions about the Online Safety Act, Musk has turned a huge amount of attention and hostile attention to the United Kingdom. Now, am I being... What I usually am, which is a profoundly paranoid man here, to say that Musk's threats and saber rattling from those tech companies is something that maybe is colouring our government's actions in this area.

Since the first discussions about the Online Safety Act, Musk has turned a huge amount of attention and hostile attention to the United Kingdom. Now, am I being... What I usually am, which is a profoundly paranoid man here, to say that Musk's threats and saber rattling from those tech companies is something that maybe is colouring our government's actions in this area.

And is that why potentially they might not be willing to sign up to the AI thing? A separate issue from it being a bit kumbaya, which is a wonderful turn of phrase.

And is that why potentially they might not be willing to sign up to the AI thing? A separate issue from it being a bit kumbaya, which is a wonderful turn of phrase.