Niccolo Mainoni
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Shadow Kingdom
God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
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Shadow Kingdom
God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
On the day of, Patienza made his way to the address and went up a few flights of stairs to the room. And there he saw God's banker. Suit, tie, mustache. Calvi was seated. So he gets up and he shakes your hand.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Do you remember the handshake? Yeah. You just shook my hand and it was kind of limp.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Oh, you think it's emblematic of him? Emblematic. Very emblematic. So you shake his hand. It's limp. Then what happens?
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
You're making a gesture that you're taking out documents from a briefcase. Pazienza said he laid out the documents showing Calvi's secret transfers between the Vatican, the Ambrosiano, and its offshore companies.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
He told Calvi, I don't give a shit about you. Maybe you don't understand, I only care about the Pope. Patienza thought this was a true conspiracy against the Pope inside the Vatican. And he said he didn't want to be a part of it, Patienza was on their side.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Pazienza is saying here that he ripped up the document in front of Calvi, handed it to him, and told him he didn't have any other copies. I had to ask this a few ways to confirm with Pazienza. But basically, he waltzed into Calvi's office and showed the banker blackmail material on the Vatican Bank, then tore it up.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
From there, Pazienza told Calvi he was ready to quit the Italian CIA, that he didn't have a special allegiance to the left-leaning cardinals. And Pazienza, anti-communist soldier, thought he'd be better off working privately for the banker.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
And you tell him, yeah, but only if I do exactly what I want.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
This sounded unbelievable, except that it was confirmed in every book, every article I've read about Patienza's hiring. In early 1981, he became Calvi's fixer for about a half a million dollars a year. Instead of fucking over Marcinkis, Patienza quit being a spy and went to work for the covert Marcinkis-Calvi Cold War slush fund syndicate. What did that actually involve?
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Though Polish officials didn't want to allow the Pope's visit, denying his entry meant that they'd face a possible riot. No other Pope had managed to slip behind the Iron Curtain before, but this Pope, the Polish Pope, he made his way in, which was unbelievable. Christ had breached the Iron Curtain. The West had breached the Curtain.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Well, Calvi normally moved through loans and wire transfers. But to ensure that the money was untraceable, the best way here was to go with literal cash, gold, preferably, moved across borders. One story that Pazienza told me was about a call he got from Archbishop Marcinkis. He said that the Pope wanted to transport $3 million in gold across the Iron Curtain to a Polish anti-communist group.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Pazienza flew the money to Calvi's associates in Switzerland, where the currency could be converted to small ingots of 99.99% pure gold. Pazienza then brought the gold back into Italy, and then to the border of Italy and Yugoslavia. There, he met a priest who would drive the gold to Poland in a small car.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Pacienza said he checked every inch of this beat-up Soviet car, then he put a false bottom for the gold.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Pacienza told the priest, when you arrive at your destination in Danzig, Poland, give me a call. The code is Tanti Aguri, which is Italian for happy birthday. So Pacienza said day one passed and he stayed near his phone. Day two passed and still he waited. On day three, Pazienza began to get nervous.
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And it wasn't just in Poland. Potenza told me he helped Calvi and Marcinkus send money to anti-communist groups in Latin American countries, like Costa Rica and Panama. And Calvi, in return, got to keep using the Vatican's money and reputation to keep his bank afloat, just as he had hoped.
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I have to admit, though these stories are great, it's hard to totally corroborate everything Patsensa has told me. But when it comes to the basic question of did the Vatican task Calvi with moving funds to anti-communist groups, there's a document I mentioned earlier that confirms it all for me. Remember back in episode one,
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
When I talked about the letter Calvi had written to the Pope just days before he died, the one where he proclaims the Pope to be his last hope, a copy of which was also discovered tucked away in Calvi's briefcase, In Italian, Calvi wrote, quote, it was I who willingly took on the mistakes and faults of the Vatican Bank.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
It was I who, on precise orders from your representatives, arranged for money to get to entities throughout the East. In his final weeks, fearing for his safety, Calvi leveraged what he knew to try and get the Pope's protection. He's begging and threatening all at the same time But why was Calvi so scared in those final days?
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Every Catholic who grew up during the Cold War probably knows about this trip. It was like a grudge match. The Pope facing off against the communists. At stake was the fate of Poland.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
I know generally about the mafia and the fascist Freemasons, and I'd learn more about the specifics of Calvi's death. But in the spring of 1981, something happened that would really set Calvi on edge. Pazienza told me everything was going smoothly in their new money movement operation for the first few months. But then he got a call from the Pope's right-hand man.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Potenza rushed to St. Peter's Square in Vatican City, where Pope John Paul II was shot, but was caught in a sea of worshipers, of priests and journalists. Potenza regrouped with Calvi and Marcinkus to judge the fallout. And very quickly, Suspicion drifted toward the Soviet Union.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
And in the year to come, Calvi would become increasingly afraid for his own personal safety and increasingly desperate. If the Pope's anti-communist activities made him a target, if the Pope with his own security force could be shot in broad daylight, what might happen to Roberto Calvi? Calvi had poked the biggest bears in Italian society at this point.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
From the Soviets to the Freemasons to the Mafia, there were a ton of powerful people with motives to punish Roberto Calvi. In just a few days after the Pope was shot, someone finally did come for God's Banker, but it wasn't P2 or the Russians. It was the police. That's next time on Shadow Kingdom.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
I've heard this story from my grandmother, who watched the scene from her television in Rome, but I never actually saw the images until now. In front of millions, and I mean millions, of Poles, Pope John Paul II strode confidently on a platform that was half altar, half Monsters of Rock stage, He was calm, like he knew exactly what he was doing.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Shadow Kingdom is a production of Crooked Media and Campside Media. It's hosted and reported by me, Niccolo Mainoni, with additional reporting by Simona Zecchi and Joe Hawthorne. The show is written by Joe Hawthorne, Ashley Ann Krigbaum, and me. Joe Hawthorne is our lead producer, and Ashley Ann Krigbaum is our managing producer. Tracy Samuelson is our story editor.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
He knew that his next move could change the course of Polish history and really world history. Would he encourage Poles to rise up against communism and risk their lives? Or would he play it safe?
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
with police and spies for the KGB watching in the wings, John Paul didn't explicitly tell his country folk to fight, but he did tell them to keep living the life that God wanted for them, to keep going to church, keep supporting trade unions in defiance of Soviet policies.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Then the Pope looked out into the crowd and paused. I assumed that there'd be mass arrests erupting at this point, but no. At the end of the homily, the Polish crowds began to sing.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Then the crowds chanted, We want God. Some say the cheers went on for 14 minutes as Soviet police looked on helplessly.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
— It was a hot day in 1979 when Pope John Paul II's plane touched down on the Polish runway. Half the world was monitoring the plane's itinerary on television.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
It's clear from the videos that emotions were running high throughout this demonstration of Catholic faith in the heart of Soviet Poland. But even with over a million devotees of Pope John Paul standing in the heart of Warsaw and thousands of cops at the ready, the day didn't end in violence, but a revolution had begun.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
The Pope spent nine days in his mother country, nine triumphant days, according to a New York Times headline. And when he went back to Rome, the Pope was determined to keep the momentum up. He wanted to throw fuel on the anti-communist fire. He wanted to keep the resistance alive. And what the resistance needed now was money, lots of it.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
But the Pope couldn't just deliver hundreds of thousands of dollars to them. This was the Cold War. And if the money was traced back to the Vatican, hell, if it was detected by the Soviets at all, it could incite a violent backlash against his beloved Polish Catholics. Or worse, it could begin a full-on war.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
The Pope needed someone who could come up with the money and smuggle it across the world without being traced. Someone who was in a desperate enough position to do whatever the church asked him to do. And in the early 80s, there was one banker who fit the bill perfectly. From crooked media and campsite media, this is Shadow Kingdom, God's Banker.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
I'm Niccolo Mainoni, and this is episode four, The Priest and the Spy.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
He'd been pope only eight months, the first non-Italian pope in over 400 years. And as a proud Polish citizen, he was returning to his homeland for the first time since taking on the papacy. But it wasn't just a homecoming. It was an incredibly dangerous political act.
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That is L-U-M-E-N dot M-E slash kingdom for 20% off your purchase. Thank you, Lumen, for sponsoring this episode. So the Pope needed a banker to make his money disappear, and Calvi, whose name had been outed in a secret Masonic conspiracy, needed a high-powered patron to bounce back. And they, the Pope and Calvi, would come together via a six-foot-two rugby-playing bishop.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Archbishop Paul Marcinkus was an American from the outskirts of Chicago. Author Gerald Posner shared more.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
And in 1971, shortly before meeting Calvi, Marcinkas added a new title to his Vatican resume. President of the Vatican Bank. Did he have the financial experience to lead a bank? No. But did that stop him?
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Investment people like Roberto Calvi, After his 1979 trip to Poland, Pope John Paul II started to privately invite officials from the CIA to give him regular briefings and also invited Polish protest leaders to talk strategy. He told Archbishop Marcinkus that he wanted to support the Polish resistance financially.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
According to multiple reporters and the bishop himself, it was now Marcinkus' duty to get money to the Polish anti-communist groups without being caught. So, of course, Marcinkus turned to Calvi, who had already perfected the art of making Vatican cash disappear. Gerald Posner again.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
As God's banker, Calvi would also become an anti-communist cash smuggler. You're probably thinking, why does the Vatican Bank, the one that can make money disappear, need Calvi to help them move funds anonymously? Well, the Vatican Bank is like a black box. Cash that went in could disappear. And then it was a simple transfer to Switzerland or the Bahamas.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
But as Posner told me, this holy war was more complicated. You weren't just transferring money to some Western hub, you were sending money behind enemy lines, which required a higher level of skill and anonymity, often physically smuggling money and material. Plus, the Polish economy was on the verge of collapse, and the Vatican Bank had liquidity issues.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Because Poland at that time was 90% Catholic, and Poles were desperate to see their beloved son come home. But Poland was also communist, part of the Soviet bloc. And communist leaders saw religion, and the Catholic Church in particular, as a threat, a rival. They'd been trying to banish Christianity in Poland for decades.
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the Pope needed someone who could deploy millions ASAP. So according to Calvi's written account, the Vatican asked for his help to find sources of cash and also ensure that cash was received behind the Iron Curtain. And to Calvi, this seemed like the best way to gain some salvation from his own critical debt situation.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Gerald Posner told me that after the P2 membership list was outed, many of Calvi's investors wanted to distance themselves from him.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Which meant less cash in Calvi's bank. This created a problem for Calvi. The money that he would normally use to keep his operation going was drying up. If he was in the Pope's good graces, perhaps he could leverage that trust to gain more support for his bank.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
He needed to make sure that the church kept the investments they already had in his bank, Banco Ambrosiano, as other investors were jumping ship. And so, Calvi got to work. But soon after, Calvi received word from a spy who said he knew all about his plans with the Vatican and he wanted to meet with Calvi or else. Espresso, pre-interview espresso is being made.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
It's the summer of 2023, another sweltering day in Italy, and I'm in what looks like a pool house at a villa waiting for an espresso to be made before my source is willing to talk to me. He didn't give me his address until a few minutes before the interview, which I'm getting used to at this point. Do you have a favorite place to sit somewhere? I put my ass wherever I want.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
You put your ass wherever you want? Yeah. He lights up his pipe and will continue to do so, refilling and lighting throughout our five-hour interview.
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Francesco, Frank, Pazienza is a jack of all trades. He was a medical doctor, a hard-nosed businessman, and most importantly, Pacienza used to be a spy, working for the Italian version of the CIA.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Posner told me that if I wanted to understand how Calvi and the Pope were working together to send money behind the Iron Curtain, I had to talk to Pacienza, because at the time, he was spying on the Vatican. You see, one of the dirty secrets I've learned about the Vatican was that cardinals and bishops were all spying on each other.
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One rival cardinal apparently hired Pacienza to dig up dirt on Archbishop Marcinkus. And so what do you, he tells you this, he implies, fuck Marcinkus. What are you thinking? What's going on in your head?
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
Frank Pacienza had to find a document so scandalous that it could take down Marcinkis. So Pacienza worked his connections and said he found damning financial statements between Marcinkis, Sindona, and Calvi. He wouldn't go into more detail except to say this would have undermined the Calvi-Marcinkis covert operation. The two men would be exposed before they'd barely begun.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
In the 70s, protests and strikes were breaking out in multiple cities across the country. And now, here were over a million pro-Christian and likely anti-communist citizens all together lining the streets of Warsaw, amped up for their pope.
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God’s Banker I 4. The Priest and the Spy
But being a very Italian spy, Pazienza didn't bring this information to the cardinal who hired him. He had his own agenda. He made contact with Calvi. And then the banker invited him to meet. The rendezvous was set for an office on Via della Conciliazione in Rome, the massive boulevard that goes from the Tiber River to the doors of St. Peter's Basilica.
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God’s Banker I 3. The Grandmaster
Friends of the Pod subscribers can listen to the full season of Shadow Kingdom right now. Join Friends of the Pod at crooked.com slash friends or on Apple Podcasts. As the sun rose on a spring day in 1981... Police officers in unmarked cars drove south from Milan, past fields, farms, and small towns, until they arrived at a mattress factory and knocked on the door.
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God’s Banker I 3. The Grandmaster
Through his research, Gruen was able to sketch the details of an early meeting between Calvi and Gelli. It was around 1970, a decade before the raid on P2, and Calvi was still a mid-level executive looking for a leg up. His then-mentor, Michele Sindona, recommended Calvi to Gelli.
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When Calvi entered Gelli's office, he saw a wide desk with letters from senators, CEOs, celebrities, exactly the type of people Calvi had always wanted to hang out with, always wanted to be. So I can imagine how flattered and how charmed Calvi must have been when Jelly told him, we want you, Calvi. I want you.
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God’s Banker I 3. The Grandmaster
Talking to Gerwin, there's no doubt that when Gelli looked at Calvi, he saw dollar signs, or lira signs, I should say. Calvi was an up-and-coming executive in one of Italy's biggest banks, a bank that was increasingly international in its business. And that was handy because Gelli's pro-fascist, anti-communist ambitions weren't limited to Italy.
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The police pushed open the factory doors and were greeted by a secretary who led them to the second floor. As the officers climbed upstairs, they weren't quite sure what to expect. They were hoping to find a paper trail of where the mafia was moving its money, so they scoured desk drawers and bookshelves for documents, all while a secretary kept a close and silent watch on them.
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At one point, Jelly was planning weapons sales to Argentina. Another time, he wanted to orchestrate oil transfers in Libya. Calvi could move money quickly and secretly to make those deals happen.
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In return, Jelly offered Calvi connections and protection. If Calvi joined P2, Jelly said he could start doing favors for him and help him get promoted.
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Jelly cultivated an aura that only he had these connections. Only Jelly could connect Calvi with important politicians and executives. He could get the nobility to respect Calvi in a way the banker had never been able to do on his own. Calvi loved the idea of this. He was new to being rich and very preoccupied, borderline paranoid with the idea of an elite cabal running Italy.
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Being part of P2 meant that no one would mess with you. And if they did, you'd have very powerful friends on your side. And this was also really appealing to Calvi because Italy wasn't the safest place at the time.
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God’s Banker I 3. The Grandmaster
Italy was going through an economic boom, but it was also extremely dangerous. My parents remember this time well. I grew up hearing stories about how their city was bombed, how you'd hear gunshots in the night. These were called , the years of lead, because there were thousands of shootings and terrorist attacks from the mafia, the communists, and the neo-fascists.
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Society was extremely unstable. Every bank executive could be kidnapped for ransom by domestic terrorists. Or they might have their bank raided by left-wing regulators. Jelly could sense that Calvi was afraid of the world around him, a fear that bordered on paranoia. And the Grandmaster fed it by inventing threats to Calvi that P2 could magically take care of.
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Jelly would call Calvi multiple times after their first meeting. He'd say, there was an attempt to arrest you. Or, there was an attempt on your life, but I foiled it. And somehow, Calvi felt safer.
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P2 had connections to media, business leaders, judges, police, spies, even the mafia. And Calvi wrote in later letters that Gelli, quote, had been convinced that all political and financial power really depended on him. And so, according to Gerwin, by the summer of 1975, Roberto Calvi was sold. he pledged himself to the Freemasons and pledged himself to Licio Gelli.
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It didn't take long until they found a briefcase belonging to the factory's owner, Licio Gelli.
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His signed, sealed oath went into Gelli's safe. From there, it only took Calvi a few months to reach the pinnacle, promotion to chairman of the Banco Ambrosiano, Roberto Calvi's ultimate goal. The thing was, He had tied himself to Li Zhezhe and the P2 masons. He owed them. They expected his loyalty. And there's a reason nobody wanted to talk with me about Propaganda Due.
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People who defied or even slighted P2 met with violent ends. Very violent. That's after the break. As my conversation with Gerwin went on, I became increasingly disturbed. Here was yet another well-respected journalist who covered Calvi at the time, and here he was confirming the more conspiratorial parts of the story.
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I asked Erwin about the documents Tirona's men found in Gelli's office, the ones that included plans for a takeover of the Italian state.
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Strategia della tensione. It meant that violence was at the heart of Jelly's plan. He wanted to destabilize the country through kidnappings, shootings, and mass arrests. Then, when people were looking for answers, P2-controlled media outlets would pump out propaganda about how nice it'd be to have a strong man fix everything.
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Communist groups were staging student revolts and worker strikes, some of which turned violent. But what Gerwin is saying here is that some fascist groups, including possibly P2, planted terrorist attacks that they'd then blame on the communists.
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And after Calvi became bank chairman, Jelly started regularly pressuring Calvi to fund some of his other P2 projects, propaganda projects to build on the P2 playbook.
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With Calvi's help, Gelli filled the ownership board, the editorial board, and the writers' room with P2 members. From there, Jelly got Calvi to invest in foreign mining, construction, real estate, banking, even arms deals.
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One day, the Grand Master would ask for help with Saudi construction projects. Another day, he'd get Calvi to open a friendly Argentine bank. Each deal got Gelli closer to powerful leaders who shared his politics, at least his hatred of communism, Peron, Noriega, even Ronald Reagan. And it didn't seem to matter how many times Calvi helped Gelli.
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There was always another request, always another quote-unquote business opportunity. So not that long after Calvi's promotion, Gerwin said he was losing millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. But rather than risk his precious job, Calvi covered up the losses.
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So what does he do? Calvi built a financial network so big and so complex that no one, even inside his bank, could follow his moves and losses. A labyrinth of foreign banks and shell companies, all owned by the Ambrosiano in Milan.
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When police opened Gelli's briefcase, they were in for a shock. Inside were documents that looked like a sprawling blueprint for a new world order. They were all about bringing Italy back to its glory days under fascism.
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Gurman helped me understand this was Calvi's greatest skill and also his downfall. He could take big debts and bad loans and, as if by magic, put them in his briefcase and make them disappear. But of course, debts don't disappear. Eventually, they have to be paid back. Throughout the 70s, Calvi would have the Ambrosiano borrow money from big banks around the world.
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These are big institutions from America, England, Japan, you name it. He'd then take that money and loan it to companies in Europe and the Americas. So on paper, the Ambrosianos balance sheet looked good. Calvi's bank borrowed money, it loaned money, and it collected interest and then repaid those original debts.
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What no one knew was that Calvi was loaning that original money to shell companies he secretly controlled. Ghost companies that didn't really do anything other than collect Calvi money. But because they were offshore, no one regulator could see what he was doing. And here's the kicker. Some of his shell companies were actually using their loans from the Ambrosiano to buy stock in the Ambrosiano.
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Sneaky. This was Calvi's way of driving up the bank's share price and cementing his power.
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Paradoxically, this made it easier for Calvi to hide what he was doing because he filled the bank's board with yes-men. So each time Jelly called Calvi on his private line with a new request, the banker would squirm and then find a way to oblige the Grandmaster. Calvi racked up debt for Jelly in 1976, 77, 78, 79, 80, until 1981, when news of Tirona's raid and the list of P2 members hit the media.
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Gelli had written a manifesto wherein Freemasons would carefully infiltrate the government, buy up all the major media outlets, destroy unions, silence journalists, take over the military, and eliminate communism. Turone's men looked back and forth at each other and then at the papers. What the hell had they just stumbled upon?
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Authorities started to ask questions about Calvi. Why was he on this shadowy list? Who was Calvi loaning money to? How safe were deposits at his bank? In public, Calvi presented a cool, calm demeanor, even denying he was a member of P2. But with all the bad press, Calvi had problems bringing in new investors and depositors. And as his debt mounted, Calvi tried avoiding Jelly.
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When the Mason would call, Gerwin says Calvi's family would cover for him. They'd say, he's in bed, he's sick, he's out. When they did talk, Calvi was a mess. The banker would plead poverty. He didn't have any more money for oil transfers, arms deals, for right-wing dictators, let alone newspaper ventures. But Jelly threatened Calvi. If you can't pay me, I have no use for you.
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Calvi was at a loose end. His wife recalled those moments in a grainy PBS interview.
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When things would get tough and it felt like the world was closing in, Roberto Calvi would often retreat to his papers, his physical papers. Remember, this is the late 70s, early 80s. Calvi was old school. This is a rare recording of Calvi's son describing his father's habit.
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Calvi's son, Carlo, said that when his father needed to focus, he'd take documents out of his leather briefcase, one by one. He'd lay chart after chart out on the desk. Then when the desk was full of papers, he'd move to the floor, laying each sheet down on the ground of his palatial office, piece by piece.
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Then his eyes would dart from one piece of paper to the next, each eye movement representing a movement of cash. It was like a financial opera that only Maestro Calvi could hear. And by 1981, the opera was tragic. No matter how Calvi shuffled the papers on the floor, no matter how many times he recalculated his accounts and his debts, there was no way to make the numbers work.
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I can see it now, looking over Calvi's shoulder, the way he kept getting himself in deeper and deeper, how every time he obliged some new funding request from Gelli, it created a bigger problem for him down the road. Was Calvi naive enough to think Gelli and his friends would pay the Ambrosiano back? That he could keep adding new debt while juggling mafia payments?
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I picture Calvi sinking into his chair, surrendering, doing what human beings do when everything falls apart, when the darkness overpowers the light, when everything seems lost. I imagine Calvi closing his eyes and praying for help. But while you and I might close our eyes and look up to an abstract God, Roberto Calvi called upon the literal representative of God on Earth.
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Shadow Kingdom is a production of Crooked Media and Campside Media. It's hosted and reported by me, Niccolo Mainoni, with additional reporting by Simona Zecchi and Joe Hawthorne. The show is written by Joe Hawthorne, Ashley-Ann Krigbaum, and me. Joe Hawthorne is our lead producer, and Ashley-Ann Krigbaum is our managing producer. Tracy Samuelson is our story editor.
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At best, they thought they'd find a mafia-linked safe house or where dirty money was stashed, but cryptic documents about a shadowy government takeover, they definitely didn't see that coming. And they still had more of the factory to search. Meanwhile, the secretary just kept watching and waiting.
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Sound design, mix, and mastering by Mark McAdam. Our theme song and original score are composed by me and Mark McAdam. Our studio engineer is Iwanlai Tramuyen. Voice acting by Bonnie Biagini, Andrea Bianchi, Ferrante Cosma, Luca De Gennaro, Michele Teodori, and Mustafa Zialan. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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God’s Banker I 3. The Grandmaster
Gelli had a safe there. Great. But Gelli's secretary didn't have the keys. Not so great. It didn't take long, though, before Turone's men noticed the secretary fiddling with her purse.
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As the secretary made her way down the stairs, she pulled something shiny from her bag. It looked like she was going to pass a set of keys to someone who had just arrived. One of the cops, though, snuck down the steps, rushed behind the secretary, and actually grabbed the keys out of her hand. She was stunned for a moment. then recovered and said, be careful about what you're doing.
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My commander is a very powerful person. Turone's men ran back up the stairs, found the safe, jammed the key in the lock. Inside were what looked like loyalty oaths to a branch of Freemasons called Propaganda Due. signed documents that declared each member would obey the Masonic Lodge and the Grand Master.
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The safe held oaths from the country's most powerful military officers, from journalists, diplomats, professors, judges. There were at least 30 members of Italian parliament, two undersecretaries, government ministers, even future Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. According to these oaths, they had all joined Propaganda Due.
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Turone's men seemed to have stumbled upon a master list of Propaganda Due members in Italy and beyond. And right in the middle was Roberto Calvi's name. From crooked media and campsite media, this is Shadow Kingdom, God's Banker. I'm Niccolo Mainoni, and this is episode three, The Grand Master.
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These men were working with Judge Giuliano Turone. Turone was famous for investigating the mafia in Milan, Calvi's hometown. He was convinced Calvi was involved with the mob. Turone retold the story to me.
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Now I talked to both a mafia insider and a mafia prosecutor, both of whom believed that Calvi was working with the mafia. But Turone was adding another super secretive group into Calvi's world. What the heck was Propaganda 2? Even the group's name was mysterious. Propaganda 2. Was there a Propaganda 1?
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What was this shadowy group, and why would Calvi, a fairly public banker, get involved with them? Well, I learned that Propaganda Due or P2, they're not your average Freemasons. Freemasonry's origins are murky, but it likely started 500 years ago as a trade group for actual masons in Scotland, as in stone and brick masons.
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From there, it spread to other professions and countries, eventually reaching the Americas.
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George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Paul Revere, all Masons. There are still Masonic lodges and halls peppered around the U.S. Generally, it's more of a brotherhood type of community organization. But P2 in Italy... was a very different, elite kind of Masonic brotherhood. A bastion of uber-wealthy, occasionally hooded men plotting world domination.
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So, obviously, I started digging deeper into what P2 was. It turns out, though, that this is hard. If you're ever looking for an easy way to challenge yourself, you might try reporting on a secret Italian society from the Cold War.
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I tried calling former members, friends of members, investigators, and sometimes I'd get through. Salve, Niccolò Mainoni di nuovo. Buongiorno, buonasera. Un documentario su Roberto Calvi, Licio Gelli e Propaganda 2. As I said before, I'm Uzi, il Disturbo.
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Just following up and saying we would still really, really love to hear your thoughts. But when I told them I was interested in P2, they'd go off the record. Or just ghost me. P2, Propaganda 2. The world of Pitu Freemasons, I learned, was a world of smoke and mirrors, of double entendres and Cold War intrigue. But I was able to piece together eyewitness accounts from Pitu's early days.
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But on this day, Torona wasn't actually investigating Calvi. No, instead, he'd received a tip that bordered on conspiracy theory. That in this factory town, there could be evidence linking the mafia with an illegal underground branch of the Freemasons. He took the tip seriously, hand-picking officers for his team and keeping the raid confidential, even from other cops.
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Picture a mansion hidden on a remote hill in Tuscany. menacing-looking sculptures in the courtyard, including stone serpents with security cameras hidden in their eyes. Inside, exquisite marble halls lined with hanging portraits of 20th century dictators. Perón, Mussolini, Hitler,
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Around a marble table, you might find a handful of new P2 initiates, dressed in satin robes, faces obscured by black hoods, sitting next to their grand master, Li Choujie, the only one who shows his face. He boasted about the ceremony years later on TV. Gelli described the dark uniforms, masks, and symbols of a flaming sword. He was the only one who knew all the recruits' identities.
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According to one account, Gelli would lift a small axe above a table and slam it down, asking for new members to enter. The initiates were blindfolded, sweat maybe dripping from their forehead, as the Grand Master began to question them. Are you prepared to die in order to preserve the secrets of Propaganda Due? Do you proclaim yourself an anti-communist?
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Are you prepared to fight and face death so that we may destroy this government? The initiate would say, I do. And then the blindfold would be removed. So these colorful details of the ceremony come from the firsthand account of a P2 member. It's a theatrical induction that Shelley likely reserved for his fanciest recruits.
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And I want to zoom in on Gelli for a moment, the man who recruited Calvi and made P2 what it was. I learned that in the 60s, when Gelli joined the Italian Freemasons, these guys were largely democratic and apolitical. But as Gelli rose to power, he remade his local group, P2, in his image. Anti-communist and pro-fascist. Very pro-fascist. Gelli said, quote, I studied with fascism.
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I fought for fascism. I am a fascist, and I will die a fascist. I realized, after listening to hours of tapes of this guy, that for Gelli, World War II had never really ended. He came of age under Mussolini, when Italy was unified by a strong right identity and a single leader. To him, the Italy of the 1970s, around the time that Calvi was ascending, wasn't social freefall.
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Divorce and abortion were legal. The streets were filled with hippies, liberals, and communists.
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The P2 leader was obsessed with restoring order to Italy. He wanted to demolish democracy and bring back a dictatorship. On a certain level, Calvi's connection to Jelly and P2 made sense. Calvi did volunteer to fight for the Axis powers. He was a rich banker, certainly anti-communist, but this was much more radical than anything I'd previously heard about Calvi.
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I knew Calvi wanted to be rich and powerful, sure, but I didn't get the impression that he wanted a far-right takeover of the state. At this point in my research, in my quest to figure out who killed Calvi, I felt like I was, yet again, tripping face-first into a wall of absurd conspiracies. I mean, a secret society plotting a national coup? Come on.
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Turone was worried that local police would tip off the Masonic group.
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I needed to find an anchor, someone to comfort the English side of my brain. Someone that could say, there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for all of this. That's when I found an American in Europe who could relate to exactly what I was going through. I called him up when I was in Italy.
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Larry Gerwin wrote one of the first books on Calvi after he died, and he interviewed scores of Calvi's friends and family. He also felt this overwhelming sense of paranoia from Italians.
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And over the next few years, the boisterous Sindona and its new brooding mentee Calvi made the Vatican a ton of money. They played the stock market. They made real estate deals. They brought modern investment banking to the sleepy Vatican Bank. But Posner says, these guys were not saints. They were opportunists.
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Sindona and Calvi took full advantage of their connection to the Pope. The bankers name-dropped the Vatican constantly and used the reputation of the church to secure huge loans for their own businesses. In return, the bankers came up with a plan to massively divest the church's investments in Italy.
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Das neue Schema füllte die Kirche's Geld außen, schilderte die Kirche von den steigenden Augen des italienischen Staates und erhielt Calvino Sindona einen schönen Profit.
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Außerdem war der Vatikan auf Lockdown für ein Event von Pope Francis. So, I pointed my Vespa away from St. Peter's and I sped down Via della Conciliazione. A road, I'd find out later, that Calvi had walked before. A road that actually changed his life. But in those early days of my research, I was only after the very basics of Calvis' life and persona.
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Er wurde Generalmanager der Bank genannt, dann Managing Director. Die größten Berichte in Italien nannten es Calvys Erste in die Gesellschaft. Der Präsident von Italien machte Calvi eine Nacht der Arbeit. Calvi feierte. Er machte es nach oben. Er machte so viel Geld, dass er ein Haus in der am liebsten exklusiven Gated-Gemeinschaft in den Bahamas gekauft hat.
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Wie weit Calvi gekommen ist, seit seinen Tagen für reiche Kinder zu arbeiten. Jetzt war er der reiche Junge. Von Milan nach New York, nach den Karibikern, zu Partys mit berühmten Schauspielerinnen. Er hat seine Fähigkeit zu Sedona und der katholischen Kirche gezwungen und sein ganzes Leben hat sich verändert. Und die Werte kamen immer weiter. Aber schlussendlich hatte Calvins Mentor einen Fall.
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Sindona hat sich mit US-Bankregulatoren beschäftigt, nachdem er 1972 eine Long Island Bank gekauft hat. Sindona brauchte Geld, um Accounts zu erfüllen, von denen er nicht spenden sollte. Er brauchte Calvys Hilfe. Und der neu geheimnisierte Calvi blieb ihm auf. Calvi hatte jetzt offizielle Operationen, ein paar Geld und eine direkte Linie zum Popen.
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So he offered Sindona a little money from the Banco Ambrosiano, but not nearly what his old mentor needed. And without Calvi's help, that trouble that Sindona was in, it snowballed.
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Aber sind Dona's Downfall turned out to be Calvi's big break. He could take over sind Dona's role with the Vatican. He alone could be God's banker. And in doing so, he would take on some of sind Dona's most dangerous clients too. E chi er invece questi altri personaggi che mi hai descritto? Chi sono gli uomini?
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Untertitelung des ZDF für funk, 2017 I cannot help but wonder what if just a handful of our protagonists had had access to easy, low-stakes therapy. Would the story have unfolded differently? But therapy isn't just for those in crisis. It's for perspective, for self-awareness, for learning how to step back.
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And unlike the financial statements of our protagonists, it's actually quite easy and simple to access. BetterHelp makes therapy affordable and convenient, serving over 5 million people worldwide. And though it has a network of more than 30,000 therapists... Das ist BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash kingdom. Calvi bekam seinen Wunsch. In den letzten 70ern war er allein Gottes Banker.
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Aber Calvi war nicht zufrieden. Er wollte das Banco Ambrosiano immer mehr wachsen, bis es die größte Bank in Italien war. Vielleicht Europa. Posner sagte, Calvi suchte Shortcuts. Und das bedeutet, Kunden zu nehmen, die viel Geld haben, von, sagen wir mal, unnötigem Ursprung. Wie die Mafia. Das ist ein Begriff, der in meinen Berichten mehrere Male aufgekommen ist. Mario hat es erwähnt.
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And I'm gonna be honest, Roberto Calvi is a tough guy to get to know. Selbst mit all den Büchern, die ich auf der Erde entdeckt habe, den News-Fotos, die ich in italienischen Archiven gespeichert habe, sind die frühen Jahre von Calvins Leben immer noch ein bisschen ein Geheimnis. Ich weiß, dass Roberto Calvi nicht mit einem silbernen Spunen in seinem Mund geboren wurde.
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Die Berichterstatter haben es aufgelistet bei Calvies Tod. Die Gerichtsfälle haben Calvies Mentor, Mikel Sindona, an den Mob und den Mord getrennt.
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Calvi hat definitiv seine Mentors Paypal-Klienten aufgenommen. Aber hat er auch Sindonas offizielle Klienten aufgenommen? If I could prove Calvi's ties to the Mafia, that would substantiate at least part of Mario's story. It would still be a fairly logical explanation to Calvi's death. Calvi got tied up with the Mafia, maybe he racked up big debts, they killed him. Sad, but no big conspiracy.
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A resolution that would satisfy the English and Italian sides of my brain. The problem, I found, was that Calvys Mafia ties were hard to substantiate. Everyone seemed to say he was working with the Mafia.
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So, I put my Italian lawyer hat on and I went through decades of Calvi-related legal documents. There wasn't a smoking gun, no wire transfer from John Gotti to Roberto Calvi, but there were a few leads, several names of mafia leaders or mafiosi that Sindona could have introduced Calvi to. These were members of the Sicilian Mafia, known as Cosa Nostra. That translates in English to Our Thing.
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They're arguably the most organized, most deadly, most famous Italian criminal enterprise. Exactly the type of people I'd hope to stay away from when I decided not to be a prosecutor in Italy and practice cushy, comfortable, safe corporate law instead. Aber hier war ich, seit Monaten, um Mafiosi zu suchen, die mit Roberto Calvi gearbeitet haben, und zu ihnen zu sprechen.
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Und es gab einen ehemaligen Cosa Nostra-Soldat, der mir sprechen konnte. Er wurde erwähnt in einigen der Rekorde, die ich gefunden habe. Und er beschrieb Calvi im Geschäft mit seiner Mafia-Familie. Ich wollte, dass er mit mir auf dem Rekord sprechen würde. Und um ihm zu zeigen, wie ernst ich war, musste ich mit dem Flugzeug nach Europa.
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Vincenzo Calcarra war ein Soldat für eine der mächtigsten Mafia-Familien, die Castelvetrano-Familie. Er war sehr nah am Top-Boss, also hätte er sich dem Wissen am höchsten Niveau seiner Organisation gewünscht. Aber als Soldat wollte ich auch, dass er mich über die Mechaniken des Wachstums berücksichtigt.
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Die Adresse, die er mir gegeben hat, war in einer kleinen Stadt nahe der Italiener Grenze mit der Schweiz. Es war ein kleines Apartmentgebäude, das hinter einem Traktrat saß, über die Berge. Als ich aufgewacht habe, war ich durch die Fragen, die ich fragen wollte. Mehr als alles wollte ich wissen, war es wahr, dass Roberto Calvi direkt mit Cosa Nostra handelte? Und was hat er für sie gemacht?
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I was greeted warmly by Calcaras daughters and sat in a living room overlooking the train station. Minutes slowly ticked by and I did my best to keep my nerves at bay. Then a 66-year-old man in a three-piece suit walked in. Vincenzo Calcata strollte in mit dem Swagger, der Selbstvertrauen eines Showmanns. Er wusste, dass der Spotlight auf ihm war.
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Er ist in den 1920er-Jahren in Milan geboren, das war damals die reichste Stadt in Italien. Aber seine Eltern kamen aus einem berühmten Dorf in den Alpen. Obwohl sie nicht niedrig waren, waren sie sicherlich tristig und austere. Calvys Mutter sendete den jungen Roberto zu einer exklusiven Prüfschule, wo er sich in drabigen Kleidung befand, wo er einen Side-Hustle entwickelte.
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Und es sah aus, als ob alle anderen in der Raum das auch wussten. Als er mir ein Once-Over gab, fühlte ich mich verschwinden. Er sah mich an, wie mein Haar zertrinkt und meine Sneaker zertrinkt, bevor er mich ein wenig schrug. Sobald er sich in der Raum befand, begann Calcata, mich zu testen.
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Er hat mir angefangen, mir über wunderschöne Waffen zu erzählen, epische Verbrechen und Initiativ-Rituale zu erzählen. Ich konnte sagen, er wollte sehen, welche Reaktionen er erläutern konnte.
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Der ehemalige Mafioso hat sich eingelassen, um mir über einen kleinen Hund zu erzählen, als er viel jünger war. Black, with white spots, a little guy that would follow him around. But his Mafia boss told him the dog was a sign of weakness.
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The boss told Calcara to get rid of the puppy. Und als Calcaro das gesagt hat, habe ich gemerkt, dass er einen Finger-Gun-Motion macht. Beruhigt in unserem Interview, sagte Calcaro mir, wie er liebte und ein Puppe ernährt und dann es an einem Moment anmerkt, um seine Loyalität zu zeigen.
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I'm pretty sure if you could see my face at this moment in the interview, it would have been red as I tried to force out a polite nod. Anyway, it's at this point that I do my best to shift the conversation away from dog murder and get into why he's willing to talk to me about Calvi. Und er hat erklärt, dass er vor 30 Jahren für Raub, Zerstörung und gewalttätigem Mord verhaftet wurde.
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Und jetzt, als Calcaro aus dem Gefängnis war, war er witzig, seine Geschichte zu erzählen. Um seine gloriausen Tage wieder aufzulösen, ohne Angst vor, dass er wieder verhaftet wird.
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Kalkara's Boss sagte ihm, er würde einen großen Banker treffen, der die Interessen von Cosa Nostra, Roberto Calvi, handelt. Und er war ein großer Deal mit globaler Einfluss.
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Er wurde bezahlt, um die Arbeit der reichen Kinder zu machen. Calvys Kollegen sagten, er hätte eine Schippe auf seinem Schulter. Als junger Mann hat er für die italienische Kavallerie gevolont, um seinen sozialen Status zu erhöhen. endete mit dem Kampf um den Axis in Russland zu kämpfen, die drei von seinen Fingern zu verletzen.
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Who the fuck does he think he is? Jesus Christ? Is how Calcara said he reacted. And his boss clarified that it's fine, that Calvi should be respected, that he looked after the interests of Cosa Nostra and their money. Alright, so, Calcara confirmed that Calvi worked for Cosa Nostra and had their respect.
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But did Calcara have more evidence that might connect Cosa Nostra to Calvis death or even a possible motive for murder? Like some movie gangster, Calcara answered my question with a story. Bald nach Sindonas Fall bekam Calcaro einen großen Anruf. Von seinem Mafia-Bosses-Boss.
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Er hat seine Taschen mit Waffen in 10 Millionen Dollar verpackt. Dann ist er in ein Stolz-Polizei-Uniform geschlüpft. Er ist zur Sicherheitsanlage gefahren und flog von Sicily nach Rom. Und wie jeder Passagier trug Calcaro durch die Eingangsgäste und wartete für seine geschlossenen Taschen.
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Er hat einen Kaffee getrunken und hat gesehen, wie die Porters hufften, als sie versucht haben, seine Schuhe zu öffnen.
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Nobody knew what he had in his bags. He nonchalantly rolled his bags outside, where an unusual caravan of cars was waiting for him.
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Und aus diesem Mercedes stürzten mehrere Priester. Wie Kalkara erinnert, küssten seine Mafia-Kohorts die Ringe und die Nase der Monsignoren. Mit den Schönheiten am Flughafen über, kam die Mafia-Vatikan-Crew in die Autos und machte den Weg zu einer Villa auf der Außenstadt von Rom. Als die Autos in die Villa gedreht wurden, stürzten sie sich zu einem Halt.
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Kalkara sagt, er ist rausgekommen und hat die Million-Dollar-Suitcases an seinen Boss geworfen, der sie in die Villa hineingemacht hat.
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Wenn jemand dir Probleme gibt, schiebe sie an. Calcarra stand auf Acht, bereit, Invader zu töten, so wie er seinen Hund getötet hat.
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Und als er nach Hause zurückkehrte, hatte er keinen kuscheligen Job für ihn. Calvi musste von der Spitze anfangen, als leiblicher Bürgermeister für den lokalen Bank, den Banco Ambrosiano. Diese Datenpunkte waren leicht zu finden. Was mir schwieriger geworden ist, ist, welche Art von Person Calvi war. Was motivierte ihn? Was schreckte ihn? Wer waren seine Freunde? Wer waren seine Feinde?
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Innerhalb der Villa haben die Mafia-Männer mit Calvi und den Priesterinnen für mehrere Stunden gesprochen, bevor sie mit den Schuhhänden zurück nach dem Vatikan gingen.
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Jetzt kann Calvi mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Priesterinnen und Priesterinnen mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern mit den Mafia-Männern
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There was a meeting, he said, shortly before Calvi died, with the top Cosa Nostra bosses. They gathered to discuss one thing. Where the hell had all their money gone?
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Their international investments, their money had vanished, he said.
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Und diese Mafia-Bosses wollten herausfinden, ob Roberto Calvi einen echten Fehler in schlechten Investitionen gemacht hat, oder ob er sie überschreiten wollte. Was auch immer das Ergebnis dieser Entscheidung war, war das für Roberto Calvi nicht eine gute Entscheidung. Zumindest laut Calcarra. Auch, laut Calcara, hatte Calvi Mafia-Money und er hat es verloren.
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Also, potenziell hätte die Mafia die Mittel und den Motiv gehabt, den Banker zu töten. Es klingt unglaublich, sogar fantastisch. Aber die Geschichten wurden mehrwahrscheinlich, wenn ich die Fakten beobachte. Calcaras Geschichte passt mit anderen Testimonien, von anderen Mafiosen. Und dann habe ich einen legendären italienischen Juden genannt, der die Mafia verurteilt hat.
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Ich würde interessieren, ob Calvi wusste, dass seine Bank für die Mafia-Money-Laundering verwendet wurde.
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Dieser Berichter war ein Experte bei der Investition in illizitären Cashflows. Und er sagte, dass Calvi der Geldmann für mehrere Mafia-Familien war. Aber wenn das wahr ist, was hat Calvi mit dem Geld der Mafia gemacht? Calcaras Bosses wollten es wissen. Ich wollte es wissen.
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Es scheint, die Antwort auf diese Frage betrifft eine Organisation, die noch schrecklicher, noch schrecklicher ist als die Mafia selbst. Eine Organisation, die Sie wahrscheinlich noch nie gehört haben. Eine secretive Untergrundordnung, die Millionen auf Millionen von Dollar von Roberto Calvi verpackt hat. Das nächste Mal auf Shadow Kingdom.
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Shadow Kingdom is a production of Crooked Media and Campside Media. It's hosted and reported by me, Niccolo Mainoni, with additional reporting by Simona Zecchi and Joe Hawthorne. The show is written by Joe Hawthorne, Ashley Ann Krigbaum and me. Joe Hawthorne is our lead producer and Ashley Ann Krigbaum is our managing producer. Tracy Samuelson is our story editor.
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Sound Design, Mix and Mastering by Mark McAdam. Our theme song and original score are composed by me and Mark McAdam. Our studio engineer is Iwanlai Tramuin. Voice acting by Bonnie Biagini, Andrea Bianchi, Ferrante Cosma, Luca De Gennaro, Michele Teodori and Mustafa Zialan. Field Recording by Justin Trieger, Jonathan Zenty, Pete Shev, Jonathan Gruber, and Joanna Broder.
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Fact Checking by Zoe Sullivan. Our executive producers are me, Niccolo Mainoni, along with Sarah Geismar, Katie Long, and Alison Falsetta from Crooked Media. Josh Dean, Adam Hoff, Matt Scher, and Vanessa Gregoriadis are the executive producers at Campside Media. One last thing before we go. You can also listen to Shadow Kingdom in Italian.
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Um mehr über Calvi zu erfahren, die Person, habe ich zuerst Gerald Posner gesprochen.
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Look up Il Banchiere di Dio, wherever you get your podcasts.
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And in it, he painted a picture of the kind of banker Calvi was.
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Calvi war ambitioniert. Er arbeitete stärker als seine Mitarbeiter. Er war auch sehr klug. Er war einer der einzigen Banker bei den Ambrosianern, die mindestens drei Sprachen sprachen. Und er hat die Mutual-Funds in Italien unterstützt, bevor sie wirklich ein Ding waren. Als er 30 war, war Calvi Bankmanager. Aber er hatte die Hoffnung, bis zum Top zu steigen.
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Und das war alles während einer Boom-Zeit in Italien, in den 60ern. Sie nannten es das Miracolo Economico, das ökonomische Wunder. In der Zeit hatte Italien eines der schnellsten wachsenden GDPs im westlichen Weltraum.
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Friends of the Pod-Subscribers can listen to the full season of Shadow Kingdom right now. Join Friends of the Pod at crooked.com slash friends or on Apple Podcasts. Campsite Media The first thing I wanted to figure out after Mario sent me on this mission was simple. Wer war Gottes Banker? Und ich hatte einen Plan. Schritt 1. Ich nutze meine Frequenz-Flyermile, um nach Rom zu fliegen.
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Vespa und Fiat fliegen aus den italienischen Treppen. Colour-TVs Fendi, Fellini, La Dolce Vita. Die Ökonomie kam zurück aus der 2. Weltkrieg. Und es gab viel mehr Geld, das generell flog. Geld für große Business-Deals. According to Posner, Calvi yearned for a spot in the C-Suites of his bank. He wanted the riches that the Miracolo Economico promised.
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But all of the highest positions in his bank seemed to go to Italy's aristocrats, the Blue Bloods. His boss was literally a duke. Meanwhile, Calvi settled into middle age and the middle class. He woke up each day still dressed in drab beige clothes. After 20 years at the bank, his co-workers still snickered behind his back.
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They'd point out how he'd dye his hair, how he'd wear fancy hats and pretend to hold higher positions than he did. The powerlessness and the stagnancy seemed to eat at Calvi. Until, that is, one day. when he discovered someone who came from a similar background. Someone who actually broke through the aristocratic ceiling to become the type of Italian banking superstar Calvi dreamed of.
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Italian financier Michele Sindona. By the late 1960s, Sindona had a worldwide empire of banks and holding companies. He had regular lunches with Nixon before he was president.
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And Sindona, like Calvi, came from nothing. He was an outsider from dirt poor Sicily, born the same year as Calvi. Sedona war im Grunde ein menschliches Blutzeichen, um in einen Echelon von Super-Welt zu steigen. Und 1969 hat Calvi herausgefunden, einen Weg, um ihn zu treffen. Und dieses Treffen würde Calvi in einen größeren finanziellen Weltraum eröffnen.
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Nach Milan, nach Italien, sogar außerhalb einer menschlichen Institution. In die Himmel. Aber was er nicht wusste, was how this meeting would also drag him down into the underworld and seal his fate. From Crooked Media and Campside Media, this is Shadow Kingdom, God's Banker. I'm Niccolo Mainoni and this is Episode 2, Our Thing.
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Es war 1969, als Roberto Calvi in das weiße Granit-Milan-Aufungsgebäude von Sedona gestorben ist. Dort hat er einen kleinen Mann getroffen, mit dünnem Haar, mit geschliffenem Rücken. Einen Mann mit einer bestimmten, raspen Stimme. Calvi wollte mich treffen, erinnerte Sindona in einem Interview Jahre später. Ich sagte, absolut. Sindona spürte, er könnte einen Mann wie Calvi nutzen.
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Von dort würde ich meine alte Vespa finden, die in meiner Großmutter's Garage dormant lag. Dann würde ich zu einem kriminellen Gerätschaften hinsetzen, wo ich Transkripte von einem großen Trial finde, den Mario mir erzählt hat. Ein Trial, das nach Calvys Tod stattfand. Diese Transkripte wären ein guter Primer für die italienische Seite der Geschichte.
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Einen Banker aus dem gut eröffneten Banco Ambrosiano. Der Ambrosiano, Calvis Bank, begann als eine Firma für Priester und wurde immer noch als katholische Bank betrachtet. But it had grown into one of Italy's largest private lenders. Sindona, a free market guy, told an interviewer that he was very interested in the private sector.
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But in that meeting, Calvi made the first move. Calvi told Sindona all about his dreams to run the Ambrosiano and how he wanted to be just like Sindona. Calvis' ambition was on full display. Right after Calvi left his office, Sindona picked up the phone and dialed.
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I know Calvi's boss, says Sindona. And so I called him to get the lowdown on Calvi. Calvi's patrician boss picked up the phone and proceeded to tell Sindona that Calvi, he's sort of a joke. Like, did you know Calvi's afraid to fly? I had to hold his hand on his first flight for work. In other words, Calvi is a provincial nobody. This may have hit Sindona in a special way.
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Remember, Sindona was a self-made man too, overlooked by the Blue Bloods and generally ridiculed to no end by the Italian elites. Sindona put the phone down and sent word to Calvi. Come back. I want to see you again. Als die beiden sich kennengelernt haben und ihre Pläne begonnen haben, hat Sedona Calvi über ein Verhältnis erzählt, das zu gut klingt, um wahr zu sein.
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Etwa sechs Jahre früher, 1963, wurde der neue Popel, Paul VI, gewählt. Und es brauchte ihm sehr wenig Zeit, sich zu erinnern, dass die Vatikan-Finanzen ein Messer waren. Die Kirche, obwohl sie immer noch super reich war, war auf dem Weg, viel Geld zu verlieren.
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According to Gerald Posner, donations were way down and the Vatican needed more liquidity. So much of the church's wealth was tied up in artifacts and real estate. Try paying your bills with a Caravaggio. Mit einer finanziellen Möglichkeit hat Sedona einen Publikum mit dem neuen Papst, Posner, bekommen.
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Letztendlich ging ich mit Vespa nach dem Vatikan, um auf die Gebäude zu blicken, wo Calvi mit dem Geld des Vatikans ein Empire gegründet hat. Aber meine Besucherstattung ging nicht so, wie geplant. Der Bürgermeister sagte, dass meine italienische Bewerber-ID nicht mehr funktionierte. Also konnte ich nicht die exakten Dokumente anschauen, die ich wollte.
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hatte Sindona nun die Prestige und die Inhalte der Kirche hinter ihm. Auf einem Niveau, den niemand in der Welt hatte. Sindona sagte Calvi, das sei der Grund, warum er der Hauptfinanzierer der Vatikanbank wurde. Denn, ja, der Vatikan hat seine eigene Bank.
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Aber, wie bei den meisten großen Banken, antwortete Sindona nicht zu einer Börse, oder hatte eine Flut von Verkäufern, die sich über seine Schulter schauten, Er antwortete nur einem Mann.
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Did you catch that? The Vatican Bank, unlike any of the other banks in its vicinity, was unregulated, totally secret. Attributes that would be very appealing if you didn't want anyone to know what you were up to. Calvi hatte italienische Regulierer zu beantworten bei dem Banco Ambrosiano, aber Sindona kontrollierte eine schwarze Box direkt im Herzen von Rom.
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Introducing Shadow Kingdom: God’s Banker (coming March 17)
It was the summer of 1982. My friend Mario was preparing to interview one of the richest bankers in Europe. A man who was also the most famous fugitive in the world. When suddenly, a note came across Mario's desk. The wire said, Calvi found dead in London under the Blackfriars Bridge. Suicide? Question mark.
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The name of the man he was supposed to interview was Roberto Calvi, better known as God's Banker, the top money man for the Pope. Police argued whether this was a suicide or a murder. And the case only became more twisted as investigators dug deeper. My name is Niccolo Mainoni, and for years I have been obsessed with one of Europe's greatest mysteries. Who killed God's banker?
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An obsession that's brought me into the underbelly of some of the most secretive circles of power.
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Introducing Shadow Kingdom: God’s Banker (coming March 17)
I've talked to spies and mafia bosses. And I've recorded mind-bending stories of conspiracy and espionage.
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Introducing Shadow Kingdom: God’s Banker (coming March 17)
All to find out what truly happened to the banker who had the Vatican, the mafia, and a secret far-right branch of Freemasons all pounding on his door. Coming March 17th from Crooked Media and Campside Media, this is Shadow Kingdom, Season 1, God's Banker.
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A Sneak Preview of Shadow Kingdom: God’s Banker
There were sweat stains on his once crisp button-up shirt and dirt on his pants and jacket. He left his home in Rome in such a rush, there wasn't much time to pack. A couple of suitcases, a forged passport, and the precious item that hadn't left his sight since, his leather briefcase. Calvi picked up a book of matches and struck, igniting the small cavern of the brick fireplace.
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One by one, he pulled the documents from the briefcase, dropping them carefully into the fire, page after page. Were these paper trails of illegal wire transfers? Maybe blackmail materials on his rich and powerful clients? I can't be sure. But Calvi didn't burn everything. Some papers he stowed back in the case, Maybe he could use them to cut a deal and save himself.
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Or perhaps one of those powerful clients might protect him in order to protect their secrets. Among the papers he decided to save was a copy of a letter he'd written just a few weeks earlier. It was written to one of his most important, most secretive clients, Pope John Paul II. Calvi had done so much work for the Vatican, he'd earned the nickname God's Banker.
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But now the Italian financier was in trouble. Santita, Calvi's letter started, I have concluded that you are my last hope. Calvi wrote that he'd secretly moved money for the Vatican around the world and that he'd willingly taken on its, quote, mistakes and faults. But now, he told the Pope, I am betrayed and abandoned by the Vatican.
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I read this letter as both a cry for help and vaguely threatening. But why did Calvi carry it with him? And did the Pope ever respond? I don't know, but I know what happened next. Five days later, Roberto Calvi would be found dead, hanging from a rope over the Thames River in London, bricks in his pockets, and his briefcase nowhere to be found.
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A Sneak Preview of Shadow Kingdom: God’s Banker
From Crooked Media and Campside Media, this is Shadow Kingdom, God's Banker,
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A Sneak Preview of Shadow Kingdom: God’s Banker
There's a scene that I've been obsessed with for the past several years. It took place on a cool summer night in Austria in 1982. Italian banker Roberto Calvi sat in front of a cold fireplace. For him, it was a rare moment of stillness in what had been a full week on the run. His designer suit was disheveled.